moneyhey have not consumed this would be a body blow to america let's ability to invest capital institutured accumulate savings in the future it would be very bad for the economy, everyone that has their fingerprints, george herbert walker bush thought he of the a hero in 1990, he cut the deal, and he raised taxes, got the promises of spending cuts, the taxes went up, spending did not go down, he tajed econom tanked. neil: everyone makes a big deal about a pledge. and if euif you did this same with a pledge to plain spending rein in spending you you'll be more vilified. >> only reason they are talking about spending restraint they are trying to buy tax increases, theple pledge does have an affet on spending, not raising taxes is he first condition to getting to spending restraint, if you leave taxes on the table no spending restraint laps. -- happens it is like putting a piranha in the goldfish bowl, all of the goldfish disappear. neil: i am thinking with way that media portrayed you, that maybe you as a child did put piranha in a goldfish bowl. thank you. the issue is not grover, it is mon