madame put on her body for life, this is the slogan of the armed forces of ukraine, the ukrainian insurgent armye inveterate thugs from which the germans formed the ss-galin division and the punitive schutzman, battalions, it is very strange to hear when i am accused of nazism, because that i'm so like this centrist position i have that it's hard to imagine? that's just a maidan doctor . what kind of politics is there. the further it goes to her harder to play up and dodge poevskaya. she is tyra begins to get confused in the testimony. ah. yes, i talked to him. it's interesting under what circumstances? how it was? what was what? it was at some reception where i ended up. it fell by chance, i mean, i mean, it was such a wide reception for the public, and i was invited there in some way. passing by someone introduced us, and we exchanged a couple of words also by chance, apparently. she also met the belets fuhrer of the extremist over the corps and part-time leader of the banned azov i know personally, but i'm very close. a person who knows how to set priorities and move towards the intended goal

of shukhevych’s novel, a nazi and a wehrmacht officer who fought in the ranks of the ukrainian insurgent armye of the organizers of the so-called volyn massacre. and also vitaly georgians, like many representatives of our battalions about his nazi past, speaks reluctantly on the contrary, apparently trying to shield himself, pouring mud. dear battalion, please, vitaly nikolaevich about the battalion, what it is now, this dry, drawn-out part establishes the morale of the military personnel. well , basically, i forgot everything about the looting of aidar's militants and the boorish attitude towards civilians. legends are already being made in ukraine. it was a nightmare such looting came. they were generally crazy , they stole looting from apartments. and this is not the worst thing in the liberated village of the half in the starobelsky district of the lpr at the sausage factory, where the former base of the aidarovites was located, they found equipped, as a rule, civilians who were suspected, for example, were kept here. loyalty to the militias, the people called the place the concentration

fighters from western countries started to arrive in ukraine as well, essentially creating a massive insurgent armyust seems like a very precarious scenario. the last thing i want to add is the comment about short-range or tactical nuclear weapons has not been discussed enough. in our mind we think of "the day after tomorrow," a big interballistic battle on multiple continents. russia has other abilities and i would not be surprised if it starts to enter into the conversation if they can no longer advance and get the settlement they want. >> let's talk about it. as far as not being able to advance, as you said yesterday, just because they've been there doesn't mean they hold it. let's look at the first areas that they are able to hold and consolidate their gains. you just talked about kharkiv. here you have, again, areas that are close to russia with russian-speaking citizens on the ground, and they're having trouble holding airports they took a week ago. you would think their problems would be -- they would sweep through this country, or they believe it, and their problems would be in central and

that are more progressive and have a lot of concerns about the history of the united states army and insurgencies to recognize that a president requesting that assistance is quite different. i think we could be guided by -- if the ukrainians are the one who want to be in this fight and they're going to resist across the board, putin's aggression, and we have an obligation to support them. >> it's a very good point. ben rhodes, thank you very much. >> thanks, chris. >> that is all in for this week. the rachel metal show with ali velshi starts now. >> good evening chris. have yourself a good weekend, we will see you on monday. thanks to at-home for joining us this hour. and coming to again from budapest, hungary. one of ukraine's western neighbors. in a few minutes, i will bring you an interview with the chief of staff to ukraine's president, as he leads his country through a fourth, grinding week of this russian invasion. now, so far, this fourth week is playing out much like the previously one. the russian ground invasion, largely, is stalled. but constant air attacks on ukraine cities exact a de

that are more progressive and have a lot of concerns about the history of the united states army and insurgenciess quite different. i think we could be guided by -- if the ukrainians are the one who want to be in this fight and they're going to resist across the board, putin's aggression, and we have an obligation to support them. >> it's a very good point. ben rhodes, thank you very much. >> thanks, chris. >> that is all in for this week. the rachel metal show with ali velshi starts now. >> good evening chris. have yourself a good weekend, we will see you on monday. thanks to at-home for joining us this hour. and coming to again from budapest, hungary. one of ukraine's western neighbors. in a few minutes, i will bring you an interview with the chief of staff to ukraine's presiden

that's why ultimately i do believe that whether it's through insurgency or army or help from america,ontrol a country when the people want nothing to do with you? so their perspective is, i think they speak for a lot of ukrainians is that the country will prevail. it's just a matter of is it going to be a week or a year? and brian i know you talk about this a lot. god bless mitch mcconnell and joni ernst and democrats who are saying ukraine can win this we need to look at this conflicted and that mentality and give them the tools to be able to do it. >> ainsley: one young man is right they under estimated zelenskyy and the lady behind him said they have gotten a taste of independence and they don't want to go back. >> carley: that's exactly right. >> steve: how can we help? >> carley: help by going to ukrainian museum.org and also, of course, red cross. we have raised fox viewers over $12 million. >> brian: by the way president zelenskyy's remarks just coming in now. he did not ask for a no-fly zone from nato and membership. get more details in a moment. >> ainsley: thanks, carley, we

we lost that war to insurgency later on, for russia to defeat ukraine army is not in doubt. i think that something is going on with him personally, he gravely miscalculated. what is going on, here is what vladimir putin needs to understand, he is not the only russian that can deescalate this conflict, either -- the more he walks down the war to a nuclear war she need to be be cautious from his own people. kennedy: can he be stopped by's general. >> not sure when what nuclear launch procedures are for the army, i assume they would stop him and cooler heads will prevail. >> all right. thank you fantastic job. thank you for bringing it home. thank you. >> and the topical storm is next, we need from levity, stay with me. ♪ limu emu and doug.♪ and it's easy to customize your insurance at libertymutual.com so you only pay for what you need. isn't that right limu? limu? limu? sorry, one sec. doug blows several different whistles. doug blows several different whistles. [a vulture squawks.] there he is. only pay for what you need. ♪liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty♪ what are you rec

insurgency? >> we still hope, it still feels like ukrainian army is actually more or less in control of the situation to an extent possible. we are actually fighting the russians and the ukrainian army is holding the ground so they are making sure they locate the ways for them to proceed with breaches and so on. it's terrifying but seems the strategy of the army. we should be able to fight that on the ground with the regular army and this video, because of the international women's day and because so many women are fighting in the ukrainian army now, we actually have a very high number of women in the army. it's up to 20%. we have a high number of women. this is my appreciation the video of the women fighting on the front line. many have before but now it's even more but i do hope that we shall be able to fight it sooner than later. i'm sure as soon as the sky is secured, we shall be able to fight on the ground. we've proven we're able and capable of fighting this russian army which you truly called the substandard, that's what it turns out to be. they're extremely demotivated. they don't know what t

let's not fool ourselves that might of the russian enemy on —- army is those that are far more just and the russian cause that the insurgencyot stop fighting through will have afghanistan on steroids this has been going on for a while as you see that were crimes unfold and get more desperate ukrainians have done a hell of a job stopping the russian military to this point but i expect scorched-earth to be the new strategy for indiscriminate bombing when you see that happen we need to get international organizations on board behind this complaint we have to get western democracy and their parliament telling the russian generals the russian oligarchs we will look to you and not give youss a pass varies the news nation guy? >> would you like to say anything? >> i would just like to add i will engage in thega conflict but the more they absorb the closer they get the direct engagement will escalate significantly and right now what we need to do is to provide some safety zones with humanitarian crisis so people can be safely evacuated but it's very dangeroust' that's why it's important and it's important for us and as we create sy

which the so called k allay or kosovo liberation army, conduct serbia, under the pretext that serbia was using excessive force in their counter insurgency operations. the u. s. cited with the albanian kaylee rebels. our goals at the beginning were to read casa of intervene in the balkans, went beyond serbia's borders. i will continue with every fiber in my b to keep america involved with troops that can shoot and kill to protect the rights of they, albanians wherever they reside. in the balkan, many warren nato spamming was set a dangerous precedent for me as a 10 year old kid. just watching serbian television was scary enough to to nato me . cells fell on the village. people with deadly cargo was dropped on the residential part of the village. were striking hard at serbia's machinery of repression, while making a deliberate effort to minimize harm to innocent people on the hit list were local hospital and primary school. in some of the a days, $420000.00 missiles including depleted uranium bombs and band cluster bombs, pell on serbia. they fell on our infrastructure factories, television stations, hospitals, schools, kindergartens, and

a real transgression of gender roles, because we know from so many conflicts that insurgent forces, conventional armiesn different ways, they can slip through checkpoints. and also at the same time we're seeing the cementing of traditional gender roles through a lot of this imagery and mobilisation. the idea that this war is so immoral that even mothers, that young women, that miss ukraine who has posed for social media with a gun, that even they are taking up arms. so i think you see, really, transgression and consolidation of the traditional gender roles at the same time and that's what makes it really quite complex right now. azadeh, we mustn't forget, that there is forced conscription for men as well. not all men, clearly, want to fight. what do you think that does to the gender roles and the balance there? they can actually have quite a pernicious effect. it aggravates the humanitarian crisis, certainly, because women and their children, women and the elderly are crossing borders, are fleeing the country on their own. they're seen by men who might pray on them as more vulnerable, so they are more

it scales up to armies and insurgencies, in mont neg rocks in the early 1,600s, the otomans outnumberedritical is the definition of how you see yourself, so, right now, in ukraine, the definition of being ukrainian is to fight russia. look even at a small scale, i looked at street gangs in chicago in the 1960s one in particular the vice lord, the definition of being a vice lord in the mid-'60s in chicago was that you would rush to help another vice lord who was in danger. if you didn't do that, you were not a vice lord. so this definition of who you are, meaning fighting the enemy. once that happens, it's very, very hard to destroy a population like that. >> walter, we've seen the biden administration successfully put together a coalition especially in the west. it seems that this war is about to move to a new phase, we're seeing, of course, war crimes committed daily, now russians tipping their hand on the possibility of chemical biden administration's part, perhaps leaning in a bit more. what should they be doing in the coming weeks? >> i'll say something controversial, which is it's

there will be an urban insurgency which has got to be the worst thing that could happen to the russian armyng in a city of 4 million people and on every block and every window there is a potential gun. also the rural insurgency is absolutely going to take place. that's already in process and being planned and that will go forward. he's not thinking, he knows that the ukrainian people and the ukrainian government is setting up for the long-haul. they are going to oppose russia in every day possible in the current fighting and beyond. jon: california congressman john garamendi, thank you. our coverage continues of russia's invasion of ukraine *. we'll go back to our reporters on the ground in ukraine next. introducing the all-electric chevy silverado rst. the only ev truck that combines: 4-wheel steer a multi-flex midgate and up to a 400-mile range on a full charge and the only way to reserve it is at chevy.com. find your future. find new roads. ancestry's helped me really understand my family's immigration experience and what life must have been like for them. and as i pass it on to my daugh

insurgent and militant groups as a source of financing. narrator: one group cashing in on illicit ivory is joseph kony's lord's resistance army, or lra, which sprang to life in 1988. kony is an aggressive, messianic warlord wanted by the international criminal court for crimes against humanity. hutson: kony leads a fierce band of a couple hundred remaining fighters who originated from northern ugandabut who now predate throughout congo and central african republic up into the sudans, and they commit mass atrocities. they'll take their machetes and systematically take apart a mother and feed her to her children. narrator: the lra killed tens of thousands, displaced almost 2 million people, and abducted over 60,000 children. they turned girls into sex slaves and boys into child soldiers. the lra supports such atrocities by poaching elephants and trading ivory. much of kony's ivory comes from garamba national park in the democratic republic of the congo. hutson: garamba is considered to be at the end of nowhere. it is one of the last wild habitats. narrator: the lra raids the 1,900 square mile park with impunity and trades ivory for arms, ammu

process by putin, and instead of decisions here which now has his army bogged down in ukraine and at best, taking on a long-term insurgency, fully supported by the west in the ways of unity we really haven't seen. he's basically, i'll finish with this, he's basically engendered almost all of the security challenges that he said he was worried about at the beginning: nato, more forceful and better built up on the borders around it. more support for ukraine, not less support for ukraine. basically an economic war that he can't really win. so he's put himself in a much worse security position by his own actions and of course unified the world as we start the u.n. with 141-5, with russia, belarus, eritrea, syria, in his corner. >> the question now is with that set of facts, bill taylor, does he retreat or does he, you know, escalate? i just want to play what we heard from the president of the lithuania ahead of his meeting earlier today with secretary blinken before secretary blinken got to latvia, because the baltic states are really frightened. let's watch. >> i will say that strengthening is not longer enough, and we need

army, conducted terrorist attacks on serb civilians and security forces. but the aim of kosovo seceding from serbia. under the pretext that serbia was using excessive force in their counter insurgency operations. the us cited with the albanian kaylee rebels. our goals at the beginning were to read casa of serbs and rid they did. following the bombing campaign over 160000 serbs were 75 percent of them fled kosovo. but that still wasn't enough. so in 2008, much of the west recognized kosovo as an independent country in vibrant te, america's pledge to militarily intervene, and the balkans went beyond serbia's borders. i will continue with every fiber in my b to keep america involved with troops that can shoot and kill to protect the rights of the albanians wherever they reside. in the balkan, many warren nato's bombing was set a dangerous precedent to me. cells fell on with cargo, was dropped on the residential part of the village. were striking hard at serbia's machinery of repression for making a deliberate effort to minimize harm. to innocent people on the hit list were local hospital and primary school. in some of the a days, $420000.00 missiles including depleted uranium bombs an

and the army has to retreat to fight another day and to go into another mode, which is the full on insurgency mode. so even if the russians do capture everything on the map, all the major populated areas, a new phase of the war would begin. but we're going to see hundreds if not thousands of people lost between now and then, and i don't see at this point diplomatic or military momentum out there able to stop it. >> yeah, in fact, in the next few hours, right, we're embarking on a third round of talks and little has been shown for the two round of talks that came before. kimberley dosier, i really appreciate you being with us here. thanks. >>> just ahead as the fighting intensifies a number of refugees only continues to grow. we'll look at the desperation many ukrainians are facing as they try and flee by train. getting the incredible iphone 13 without t-mobile, makes as much sense - as playing hide-in-seek... - ready or not, here i come. ...in the desert. really guys? t-mobile has more 5g bars in more places. and now, when you switch, you can get iphone 13 on us at t-mobile. for back pain, i'

days of conventional warfare where you have two big armies look at each other across fields with tanks against each other. this is much more insu insurgency going to wind up with ukrainians controlling outside of those cities, this is what's going to happen. and it's going to happen over a long period of time. >> look, it boosts morale when you see them taking on russian equipment like this, steve hall. thank you very much for being with us. more on the unfolding situation as russia is accused of violatesing a temporary cease-fire to allow citizens to leave two cities. we're getting word of dire situatations on the ground ther. standby. lief without a pill with tylenol dissolve packs. relief without the w water. certified d turbocharger, suspension and fuel injection. translation: certified goosebumps. certified from headlamp to tailpipe. tha's certified head turns. and it's all backed by our unlimited mileage warranty. that means unlimited peace of mind. mercedes-benz rtified pre-owned. translation: the mercedes of your dreams is closer than you think. my asthma felt anything but normal. ♪ it was time for a nunormal with nucala. nucala i

army to hold out for this long. they thought that, by now, they might be arming an insurgency rather than a full-on military with incredibly complex needs, like air defense systems, like those fighter jets, um, like hundreds and thousands of rounds of ammunition. um, so that is one of the big questions here and that is what zelenskyy has been pleading for, of course, is if you can't implement a no-fly zone, if you are refusing to do so, then at least give us what we need to close our own skies and take back control of our country. and of course, key to that will be those air defense systems which, of course, he did ask for again yesterday. um, but look. the leaders here -- they are saying -- they are staying steadfast in their opposition to putting any kind of nato forces on the ground or in the skies in ukraine. and they said that they are willing to maintain that support to ukraine, but really it remains to be seen whether they are able to maintain that support, given how brutal the russian tactics have become here. the russians are obviously trying to pummel these ukrainian cities into submission, into surrender and the

liberation army conducted terrorist attacks on serb civilians and security forces that the aim of kosovo seceding from serbia is a pretext that serbia was using excessive force in their counter insurgency operations. the u. s. cited with the albanian kaylee rebels are goes with the beginning were to read casa of serbs and rid they did. following the bombing campaign over 160000 serbs were 75 percent of them fled kosovo. but that still wasn't enough. so in 2008, much of the west recognized kosovo as an independent country in violation of un security council resolution $1244.00 and serbia's territorial integrity and sovereignty. america's pledge to militarily intervene in the balkans went beyond serbia's borders. i will continue with every fiber in my b to keep america involved with troops that can shoot and kill to protect the rights of the albanians where ever they reside in the balkan. many warned natives bombing would set a dangerous precedent for me as a 10 year old kid. just watching serbian television was scary enough to to nato me . cells fell on the village with on the residential part of the village. were striking hard and serbia's machinery of repression, while making a delibe

army in terms of numbers and equipment. so what they're continuing to do is to slow them down, continue to use these insurgency style tactics, guerrilla style tactics to really stop this advance and try to weaken the russian offensive. >> and really quickly before i let you go, how do you see this breaking in the next couple of days? what's next? >> for kyiv -- so what we're -- i mean, the biggest concern now is as the russian offensive has stalled, there is a couple of concerns. one, will they be able to open up their supply lines again? will they be able to bring in reenforcements? like we heard today rumors of 20,000 troops pulling in from belarus. will they be able to bring back more equipment? if they're able to do that, there is certainly concern that their push into the capital could restart again. even if that doesn't happen, the concern is that the russians are going to use tactics they have used in other parts of ukraine and frankly in other parts of the world. that is bomb the hell out of the capital. and that's the biggest fear that many citizens and residents here in the capital that, that they're going to face

intend to break up, encircle the ukrainian army but how to rule after that i think is a big conundrum because the grainy people shown there like to move into a insurgency phase at that point. he can attempt to negotiate away his military gains once he has achieved them but even there it's hard for me to imagine a ukrainian government in exile agreeing to russian demands like recognition of those independent republics or the annexation of crimea. so we are likely to move to one of two scenarios. either putin leads into this insurgency, ukraine is essentially leveled and russia suffers for years as the west supports a fledgling insurgency, or he loudly proclaim his victory but silently concedes defeat and moves off of his maximalist gains. but for that to take place at think we have some time to go because the ukrainians are feeling rather bullish right now and the russians of course still have it quantitatively, qualitatively superior military and they want to make their military moves before any political negotiations. >> laura: good to see you tonight, thank you. putin ukraine has oil now nearing $130 a barrel, they could hit $200 a in a month. the bi

army is incredible compared to that of the ukraine. the will of the ukrainian people and their cost is far more just than the russian cause but here's what i would expect an insurgency if some of the cities fall, they are not going to stop fighting part putin is going to have afghanistan on steroids. this is going to go on for a while. so as you see the war crimes unfold as he gets more desperate because the ukrainian's have done a hell of a job of stopping the russian military to this point. but i expect scorched earth to be the new strategy. where apartment buildings are collapsing indiscriminate bombings. as you see that happen we need to get international law organizations on board behind this complaint remains get western democracies, their parliaments acting like us telling the russian generals, the russian oligarchs that we are going to look to you. we are not going to give you a pass there and let putin know were not going to let him have a pass. where's the news nation guy question works i honored my commitment to you. [laughter] would you like to say anything? >> i can just add related to what you mentioned about engaging in the conflict by just want tight

if you are moving a massive army in and trying to take kyiv you don't want to be fighting insurgents in your rear area. you want to secure your logistics basis. that brings us to the end. they're not marching from the south and from the east. their ultimate goal is to encircle kyiv and cut off all resupply over the ground from poland. >> so, clint, let me ask you, in the areas that are shaded pink -- and i do find that an interesting color scheme for russian troops. in the pink areas, is that -- are those areas where the russians have actually moved through, russian troops have moved through or would you say that those shaded areas are areas that they effectively control, because as you know there's a big difference. we certainly found it out in vietnam and then in iraq and afghanistan. it is one thing for your troops to move through and win battles and keep moving to a city. it is quite another to control it. what are we looking at here when we look at this map? >> yeah, severe miscalculation by the russian army, joe, across the board. they tried to move in with a very daunting sort

insurgents. we fund ourselves in the building with a few men rolling grenades down the stairs. they were holding off about two platoons worth of american marine and army forces, just a few men rolling grenades down the stairs. that's how difficult it is to be the attacking force in the city. and that's what the russians are running up against right now in places like kyiv. >> i think that's such an important context about urban warfare. in light of what you just said, do you think that ukraine could actually win this war? >> well, you crane is winning right now, frankly. it surprised every military strategist there. i mean, after visiting ukraine in december i didn't expect ukrainians to do this well and the russians to do this poorly. but, of course, winning at the end of the day how do we define that? what is the final truce, what are the final terms that finally allow everyone to go home in peace? i'm not sure we know what that the answer is. after all we tried to find a diplomatic solution to the coffin flict before it began. i would say tactically on the ground ukrainians are winning right now, but whether that translates into an eventual win str

do you feel that the insurgency is strong enough, do you have enough javelins, do you have enough weaponry. you have enough stinger missiles to fight back against this massive army we have enough supplies right now and we have enough resistance to be able to fight them back. look, for the last seven days, it has been every single day the question is are they going to take us over? and every single day we were able to say, no. and we were able to fight them back. and so the personal things that i am on putin's list, yeah, well, i do understand this but as a ukrainian women come as a member of parliament, as a political leader, i need to be where i am. i need to show an example of how to protect our country. and the funny part is i was on putin's kill lists but also on a ukrainian -- so this is like that even without appearance but i want to paint the portrait here. over 600,000 ukrainians have left the capital. there are many people part of this insurgency like you are. the odds are highly against you. i don't want to read or hear that you are not available for an interview because of this upcoming assault which seems very real to me. you understand the magnitude

insurgency known to man, make afghanistan look like a good day in russia. >> and what would it look like to us if latin we are putin, if the russian army appears to take control at least at first? >> yeah, so you'd have to rush double the amount of forces. this year counter uncertainty numbers that you need is usually like 1 to 20 population. you will need hundreds of thousands of troops at this point, understanding the resistance that your face. even if god willing he can't take kyiv, that's the only city that matters. if he does that, which i'm not the -- odds are not for him, the odds are against him there. you take the hundreds of thousands of troops who take a police state, literally i don't have a comparison in history, the type of hurt and she would face. >> well listen to what russian lieutenant colonel dimitri said in the press conference but we showed at this hour last night. he is a captured russian was explaining to reporters in ukraine about how the russian personal feel. let's listen to this. what he said was currently people in the russian army, and in the national guard who are on the ukrainian territory, they are confused. they do not want a

army. initially the weapons went to ukraine were to be more, insurgency.er-term conflict because most officials didn't believe russia would have success, and maybe even make their way to kyiv within a matter of days. now that the ukraine forces have done so well, prolonged conflict. we're on to its second month. they need more. their asks increased for good reasons and for good news. they're having such success. the reason they need more munitions and the idea of intelligence, extraordinary step to release intelligence yesterday saying putin was getting bad information from his own generals. part of that continuing the strategy the u.s. did before the war. part of it is just to plant more seeds of doubt. they believe putin is particularly vulnerable to questions about the intelligence agencies. an ex kgb officer himself. inner circle not generals rather intelligence agencies. administration officials say that's what they want to do here. even if not entirely true, they want putin to think perhaps it is true. that it is indeed the psychological ops game bei

army continues to make small amounts of progress. honestly, even that, would not mean an end to anything. the high likelihood exists of some kind of long-running insurgency, which is hardly a resolution. and, also, the occupation, functionally, of a country on the borders of nato, in europe, would be viewed as a legitimate, by the same coalition of countries, among ours, and others, that have condemned, and sanctioned russia. essentially, it would create an during cold war. a new one, for as long as the situation was not definitively resolved. the third where this conflict can end, is with some diplomatic solution. a cease-fire, or withdrawal of russian troops. some agreed upon path forward. there is real question, of whether or not that is actually achievable. and whether russia is at all interested in that outcome, at least now. there is some history here as well that's worth referencing. during russia's violent intervention in syria, on behalf of the assad regime, there was endless rounds of different kinds of these talks in which russia played a role. in 2016, a russian foreign ministry spokeswoman said that the country was dragging out the peace pro

insurgency and warfare, the dynamics are really complicated. size and strength have an advantage, obviously. but so does being small. you use less resources when you're small. either as an individual or as an armynk of it this way, for the russian soldiers, if they fail to take ukraine, they go home and they pick up their lives where they left them off, right? their lives don't change. for the ukrainian soldier, for the ukrainian civilians, the outcome of the fight very much determines what happens in their lives in the future. so, when you're in a position of fighting to maintain your life as you knew it, many people feel that it's preferable to die than to give that fight up. that can't be true for the russians. they are the invaders. they would go home if this doesn't work. so on a basic level, the motivating factor is incredibly powerful with a smaller force like ukraine. and this reminds me of sarajevo, 1993, '94, the bosnian serb military, had the backing of russians, of what used to be the soviet union, they besieged sarajevo, as assault failed on the ground, they just resorted to bombardment. using planes and bombs and artillery sort of a sign that the soldiers are foiled in doing their

an army that we can partner with and if the army falls as is certainly statistically the bet people would make you will have to help fund and arm an insurgencyion then that we can be do. the administration needs to do more and faster. >> dana: as president biden gives his state of the union address what he decided to do they're unwilling to talk about that. there are complications and a tough call. how does he continue to help rally this nation but the 33% approval on handling of this russia invasion in the latest polls that just came out. >> we need the president to be the commander-in-chief tonight and stand up and applaud zelenskyy and not just say we stand with you with words. but we stand with you with munitions. we have a lot of nato allies in front of us in certain ways and we need to get back on the front to make it clear we aren't going to put boots on the ground but need to make it clear that 44 million ukrainians demonstrated a will to fight and we need to demonstrate a will to arm them. >> bill: would be his best message tonight in his state of the union? >> he needs to begin by talking about the fact this is nation that believes