this intel capital venture arm has invested and put money into the likes of asml and vmware. it's not really -- ian: it's not really a blow for the company so much as them needing to focus on the core mission of better products and better production. those things will get them back in the game. the venture capital arm is a kind of prototype. it was the venture capital arm for corporations and has been for years. something they used to promote other parts of the industry and other technologies. you could argue that it's peripheral to the job at hand right now. caroline: as you say, the job at hand is focusing in. the other moves, you talk about the future of altera, for example, which has a significant holding. ian: it has these investments they have made over the years, companies they have brought in. you know, this started under the previous ceo, pat gelsinger, who said these things aren't realizing the value they should be, so we need to find a way to monetize them. all tara, i think they paid $15 billion for it back in the day and they are looking for investors, people to