the intelligence -- terrorism intelligence -- excuse me -- intelligence reform and terrorism pretengs vengs act passed in 2004, effective 2005. it abolished the position of dci and for the first time created statutorily drer of the central intelligence agency. we'll talk later about the effect that that had in the prom members of the dci, vice the dcia and the different authorities that they had. ok. i think that's a pretty good warm up. y'all did really well. super job. so let me go ahead and talk about the main points of tonight's presentation. when the cia was set up, a couple of different models came to the mind for the leaders. you had alan dulles who at the time had had his oss experience, and he thought based in part on that and his dealings with the british service during world war ii that cia should pretty much always be run by a careerist, somebody who grew up in the agency and was wedded to, devoted to that particular line of work. now, we've only had a few directors who were careerists, that is, people who started at the agency and worked their way all the way up to be dir

have appeared in studies in intelligence, intelligence national history, oxford intelligence and national security. he's taught intelligence history unclassified mono graphs on supersonic reconnaissance aircraft and intelligence the american revolution and biography as director of central intelligence was declassified. his articles and book reviews on cia leaders, counter-intelligence covered action and technical collections have appeared in studies in intelligence, intelligence national history, oxford intelligence and national security. he's taught intelligence history at george mason university and georgetown university and written a biography of chief justice john marshall. please join me in welcoming our speaker tonight and enjoy the program. >> good evening. i appreciate everybody turning out tonight. it's good to have such a large audience for what i hope you'll find to be a pretty interesting presentation i spent a good deal of time studying directors. i did a biography of the director during the 1960s, during vietnam war, jfk assassination and run up to the cuban missile crisis.

intelligence community. who in your mind comes up with the intelligence requirements?how developed is the relationship between state-owned enterprises and mss to create the requirements that then go down to what they collect on since they don't have as robust analytic capability? >> [inaudible] >> congratulations, by the way, on this book. it's timely and it's overdue in some cases, but my question to you is, you described this as a primer with the notion there should be something else coming down the road that would expand upon this and i wonder what you would consider to be the priority issues that should be addressed and who should address them? >> [inaudible] . >> marcus tucker, i just retired from the u.s. commerce department. got your book about a week ago. it's phenomenal, really, really insightful. the question, the fbi says that they've got investigations about chinese espionage going in over one of-- 50 of the states, a have an array of chinese espionage, detailed well in your book, "grains of sand" and many others. how many chinese spies would you estimate a

intelligence in national security and the oxford handbook of intelligent security. he has taught intelligence history at george mason university and georgetown university. and has also written a biography of chief justice john marshall. please join me in welcoming our speaker tonight, and enjoy the program. >> good evening, i appreciate everybody turning out tonight. it's good to have a large audience for what i hope you will find to be an interesting presentation. i spent a good time studying our directors. i did a biography of john mccone, a director in the early 60's, jfk assassination. i got interested in looking at the different ways in which the agency's leaders shape the agency itself. in particular their relations with the presidents. i should stay debt should say before i start i'm not going to be talking about the president and his relations with the agency currently. that will probably be very interesting. what i would like to concentrate on is the ways in which the presidents interact with the director. presidents, unlike choices, often which are politic

central intelligence agency and west germans intelligence agency crypto eiji provided encryption services to over 100 governments worldwide for decades unbeknown to those governments the cia had access to the encryption tools and could therefore read high level internal government correspondence from countries including france egypt and as well and many others what this means is that at the highest levels of the us government including the white house every assassination every act of ethnic cleansing every disappearance of a dissident every terrorist attack every order to carry out torture whether that took place in guatemala or saudi arabia was known by the united states joining me in the washington studio to discuss these revelations is william binney a leading intelligence expert who worked at the national security agency for 30 over 30 years so bill it is a great fascinating story yeah were you aware of it when you know i wasn't actually go but but i mean it makes sense i mean the standard procedure. for intelligence agencies to try to get other of course countries to buy into their s

intelligent image recognition. automatic target recognition these ai techniques are already available. comment race has begun. that machines do not make life and death decisions humans humans make life and death decisions about him and its and when we open the door to machines making those decisions we undermine the. basic principle of a responsible human a. little economist weapons and self driving cars they are just the tip of an iceberg with something much larger below the surface and that larger thing below the surface is autonomy in general is a town a system that's in general thomas systems threaten to undermine the foundational principle that there's an agent and that agent can either be a human or it can be a corporation or something else but that there is an agent who is responsible and potentially culpable and liable for its actions or for any actions that are taken. i don't i can't think of anything more stupid than humanity going down a route where we have deluded the principle of responsibility where w

how well as official intelligence change conflicts what about intelligent autonomous weapons all the military is already testing prototypes like here in california 2 fighter jets launch a swarm of intelligent drones. thomas flying objects then identify their own target should machines be allowed to take a life or death decisions. we travel to meet one of the most respected ethicists on autonomous weapons in the us . he warns of an uncontrollable development and is committed to worldwide ban on thomas weapons we visited yale professor wendell gallagher that's how smooth. sometimes people do not fully understand what lethal autonomous weapon systems are they tend to think of drones that might have facial recognition software and would pick off a terrorist that it sees in the distance or perhaps a few robotics soldiers on a battlefield what is sometimes not fully appreciate it is a little autonomy is not a weapon system it is feature sets which can be added to any weapons system and that includes atomic weapons or other high powered munitions and the feature sets would be the ability to

the chinese military work on artificial intelligence.ople, a lot of companies in silicon valley see china as the ultimate business opportunity, not the ultimate adversary. maria: while google pulled out of the pentagon contract, they have an a.i. lab in china. >> the argument is google's r & d effort. this means a lot of different things and can be used in a lot of different ways. it clearly has a lot of military applications from processing satellite images, helping create process data. automating drone warfare. cyber warfare. there are all these ways a.i. is a dual hughes thing for military and civilian uses. maria: we reached out to google and a spokesman said the allegations are baseless. >> any innovation that happens in china's industrial economy must be brought ultimately to the people's liberation army. it's part of their objective to close the gap with the u.s. military. it's designed for conflict with the u.s. and their allies. maria: china's 2025 goals target the country to be the world largest super power. it's pursuing a.i.

professor is using artificial intelligence to help with artificial intelligence. >> even though m.i.t. and ngh are just one stop away, they are ages away in terms of technology. a lot of times with machines doing very well in many other industries, they are not doing them in healthcare, which is -- if i affects all of us. >> using data from 60,000 patients, the professor uses a mammogram to learn patterns in breast tissues that could be precursors of cancer. you it can predict cancer as far as five years into the future. >> we are able to detect breast cancer earlier than a radiologist might. maria: the provost at m.i.f.'s teams are driving research. a radiologist and a machine algorithm is doing transformative things in terms of detection of breast cancer. we have faculty to bring down all the record for ways that have been synthesized for all the literature. and it allows you to design specific chemicals and compounds. you think about that in the realm of drug discovery. maria: before saving lives we'll have to survive the job kill. a.i. is eliminating white collar jobs faster than

when i study about tb, it was about intelligence, tb was defeated by intelligence, who had it, who they were with and around and treating them for it. what can be gained by not having enough testing and what is the right amount of testing? percentage of the population needs to be tested? how do we know who to believe about testing? >> to be clear, when you have testing available and it's rapid testing and you think it's reliable testing, you want to use the testing as broadly as possible among people you think might have covid-19. today, i would say almost everyone in america might have covid-19. so if we could do blanket testing, that would be fantastic and there are certain cities and counties trying that approach. the other piece of this is testing is two categories, looking for the viral rna, rtpcr, the abbott lab image you showed. there's also serology testing. one of the beautiful things we will likely take more and more advantage of over time is the testing to see who had covid-19 and who is now immune to covid-19. both of those types of testing are absolutely crucial and necessa

the senate intelligence committee released a report supporting the intelligence community's conclusion russian government was trying to help then candidate donald trump in the 2016 election. that committee going against other known evidence saying the intelligence community assessment of russian interest force reflects proper analytic trade craft. now the senate intelligence committee is an arbiter of whether our spy agencies know what they are talking about when indulging in trade craft. they found the steele dossier did not inform any of the judgments of the intelligence community. despite nearly all of the known evidence. recently released documents from the department of justice clearly showed that the clinton campaign bought and paid for the dossier full of russian disinformation that was peddled to the united states. the senate intel's conclusions were made by a committee. its former security director james wolfe leaked the first two carter phage warrants to the media. he season subpoenaed his son donald trump, jr. last year. mark warner tried to contact christopher steele in 201

it was developed with the help of artificial intelligence. humans create division the software grinds out hundreds of designs even the final product a only as an extension of the imagination. of film science fiction starring david hasselhoff the story all generated by computer programs by hundreds of screenplays. the dialogue and content may not always make sense no there is more than just infinite monkeys typing of course. but then people don't always create masterpieces either. the. music the ai system relentless doppelganger and endless metal live stream on you tube the ai plays around the clock. humanisation is can't do that but what really is the point. of quick reaction bethlehem dessie to what you just saw there what scares me at least. is the data especially the creativity that comes from the machines i feel like it's especially one sided right from global point of view when you see it specially when you come from from africa there's not a lot of. creative data or painting so our music to us being represented in creating these creativ

coming from the intelligence community. this is coming, as you say, from the director of national intelligence. rick grinnell really an outlyer when it comes to directors of intelligence, someone with no prior intelligence experiment, no prior national security intelligence experiment. you remember dan coats, who had both of those, was pushed out last summer. he was preceded by acting director in place and then grinnell was given the job in february. when we talk about the politicization of intelligence, it makes sense that this kind of statement is coming from the intelligence community. it makes sense that the white house and the national security apparatus feels like they can ask this of the intelligence community, that they can ask them to look into a theory that really has not been substantiated. as jim says, it's remarkable that you now have the i.c. putting out a statement about a theory that really hasn't been so solidified. they don't have an assessment. they don't have a smoking gun. the only thing they're saying

intelligence official, that being acting director mcguire.ng to have to push back in the congress. we're going to have to continue our vigorous oversight. we're going to have to make sure we get answers in terms of foreign interference in the election and that we get answers in terms of the coronavirus and what we know about that and when we knew about that. so this is the president's way again of trying to stifle oversight, and congress is going to have to push back. it will once again test whether there is any in the republican party in the house who are willing to do their institutional jobs and speak out and also support our oversight actions. >> congressman, i have 30 seconds left, but you said something. you said it's a dumbing down of the intelligence information that the administration gets. that's the problem, right? this isn't just the president finding people around him to be sycophants. there's actually a real risk to the country in removing these inspectors general or removing people from the intelligence community. >> absolutely

the decision intelligence creates a roadmap of how to do that. the future is no longer like the path. they are based on the past and we don't realize the situations changed, some used to be black with white. i believe it can solve this problem. >> we are going to collaborate. we have a dream and i don't think we have realized that dream. we will talk about it a little practically right now. how do we do this? we start with people. we don't say where is the data. we don't say we can't do this without the data. i'm sorry, the data is great, but there's a huge amount of human knowledge that is in no data set whatsoever. we are good about coming out the actions lead to outcomes. your homework is to go home and ask a friend who didn't come to talk to david about a complex decision they will talk about action and those will lead to intermediate effects and some outcomes and then we will talk about the context. so, what i do is i sit down with a diverse group of experts, young, old, gender and i say what are the outcomes you are trying to achieve? so ma

intelligence agencies and u.s. health officials to understand the magnitude of the threat of this virus. but they understood very early, the significance of the outbreak in china and that china wasn't being honest about the battle that it was contending with. >> frank figliuzzi, so much to unpack here in this extraordinary piece of reporting. i remember hearing from my own former intelligence community sources around the same time we were covering in impeachment, january/february, what had happened in wuhan not only could happen here but would happen here if we couldn't take the right steps. that was unclassified information. where does the white house think they have any leg to stand on in sort of shrugging their shoulders and saying, who knew? they knew. >> yeah, so the fact that you were hearing from former associates sources this same thing can you imagine the level of detail that was being presented in the president's daily briefing? look, in my career i have signed off on those components that came from the f

the dire warning was detailed in a report by the military's national center for medical intelligence. as recently as two days ago, president trump said nobody saw this coming. >> this came out of nowhere. nobody would have ever thought a thing like this could have happened. >> reporter: the november intelligence report determined the virus was changing patterns of life in china and posing a threat to u.s. forces in asia. "analysts concluded it would be a cataclysmic event," a source familiar with the report tells abc news, adding the defense intelligence agency, the pentagon's joint staff, and the white house were briefed multiple times. george stephanopoulos asked the defense secretary about the warnings. >> did the pentagon receive an intelligence assessment on covid in china last november, from the national center for medical intelligence of dia? >> i can't recall, george, but we have many people that watch this closely. >> reporter: by early january, sources tell abc news, the information was included in the president's daily intelligence brief. but later that month, the president

you talk but decision intelligence. we get overloaded by all these variables and different perspectives, and then how do you kind of say, well, -- the loudest to the richest or whenever person doesn't end up saying we give you all the platform, we said your piece and now this is what we're going to do. >> really good points. let me speak to just one aspect of it, which is a principle. the main thing is read the book and that will answerrure question. there's the methodologies there. one of the key best practices in this space, i the outside of the box vs. inside of the box. you talk about this thing, this technology, this agent based system or complex system model. people talk but the math inside it. that will overload your braid. information hiding, another good compute are architectural principle. focus on the interface. our goal is to glue the technology together etch we don't knee insights or answers of we need more science but an awful lot of scientific results sitting around unused because nobody connected them to

intelligence musical intelligence and so forth. as a cognitive psychologist i would also say there are things like common sense, planning, tension is many different components. we have right now is a form of intelligence that just one of those. it's good at doing things that fit with that, good during perception, edit certain gameplaying doesn't mean it can do everything else. the way i think about it is deep learning is a great hammer. we have a lot of people looking around saying because i have a hammer everything must be a nail. and some things actually work with that, but there is been much less progress on language. so there has been exponential progress and how well computers play games. but there's been zero progress in getting them to understand conversation. that is because intelligence itself has many different components no silver ebola to solve it. the second thing i wanted to say is there's no substitute for common sense prayed we really need to build common sense into our machines i wanted to show a picture of a robot

intelligence began years before the wuhan virus pandemic.n a had jailed or -- china jailed or killed a dozen cia assets? china. china even shot one of them in front of a government building as a warning to others. joining us, general jack keane. retired four star general, fox business strategic analyst. he recently received the presidential medal of freedom from president trump. these are perilous times and becoming by the day more so. this is -- we have very little in the way of intelligence about china. at least that has been publicly learned. how difficult does that make what is being promised to be a full-scale investigation of the wuhan be laboratory and the virus president xi unleashed on the world. >> the chinese communist party is have much a closed organization and has only elites around them. to penetrate that is certainly difficult. it would be almost impossible to be able to get conclusive evidence without an informant or without china's willingness to investigate and talk to the scientists and doctors who worked there. and that'

intelligence community as early as january.ow did the president based on all your reporting receive the information, and how specific were the warnings? >> right, so there's two important aspects of this as you just touched on. one is that we've learned and we're reporting tonight that the president's daily brief, which is a very important highly classified intelligence product delivered every morning for the president referenced coronavirus, raised warnings about this threat more than a dozen times in january and february. but as you know this is a president who's often very disdainful towards the intelligence agencies, and he does not tend to read his daily public briefing, his daily presidential briefing. he does get an oral briefing a few times a week, so it's not clear he ever read any of these documents, although officials we talked to said it was certainly brought to his attention by his intelligence briefer repeatedly during this period. >> how did the president's public rhetoric at the time line up with the specific in

we're talking about the intelligence community.itically corrupt as they can be. and adam schiff, the chair of the house intelligence committee. nancy pelosi. it is not an accident that all of these people were moving in concert, simultaneously toward one end that was obvious; and that is, to unseat the president of the united states. >> yeah. lou: am i making too much of what are just mere historical coincidences? >> no, you just forgot the really important actor. you named a lot of the bad actors in this horrible tragedy, but you forgot the biggest one, the ten ablers, and -- the enablers, and that is the mainstream media who might as well move their offices into the democratic national committee. they were in on this from the start. if you look at how they're reacting over the last 24 hours, you know, they're just in denial. now, these are the people that ought to be looked at for treason, okay? because a lot of these people knew about the clinton paid-for dossier. they were briefed on this, and then they were given these transcr

the intelligence agency said we have to stop this. the nsa hacked the hackers, figured out the computers from which the chinese operatives, they hacked those computers, had the home network of chinese hackers, the broader pla network trying out these operations, hacked the internet company that was selling to the chinese their internet service, to confirm who was behind these activities and they got advanced information on the chinese operations to come and they use that information to go and be ready to defend against the attacks when the chinese show up. it shows as you said the cat and mouse game that happened in cyberspace, this is a daily competition. all of this was out of public view. on a secret, this is the daily competition between the united states and china that is endemic to how nations operate in cyberspace. >> host: there was a stretch how many years between the us was able to counterspy on china? >> guest: it unfolded for a year and this was one battle in a broader war, when espionage case in a broader campaign. and th

and i like that he called it intelligence augmentation. ai, flip it upside down to the ia, putting humans at the center of the equation again. when i interviewed all these people i found what i called for a while the decision archetype. what is the decision? in action, a thought process that leads to an action. action in a complex world flows through some stuff and i don't know what buying that scarf will do to the world. it is going to have some impact but i don't feel very motivated because i can't steal the the impact, it doesn't grab my primate brain in a way that makes me think i really need to buy that hybrid car. i can't see it and the data stat today isn't giving that to me. this is my dog. i am training him to be a service dog. i have had him his whole life. is 11 months old and i had an awesome thing happened to me. a trainer teaching me to train the service dog teaching me about antecedent behavior consequence. my head exploded. that is what i heard from humans i have been interviewing, executives i have been talking to. always

. >>> abc news reporting intelligence officials warning the trump administration as far back as late november that coronavirus could be a cataclysmic event. that information ending up in the president's daily briefing, even as he repeatedly said the virus came out of nowhere. >>> the remarkable images from wuhan, now reopened. but the new restrictions. what it could indicate on america, on the other side of this. and news on british prime minister boris johnson. >>> here at home, bernie sanders out of the race. joe biden will be the democratic nominee. and news from biden on choosing his running mate. >>> and we remember a musician lost to coronavirus, who words, whose lyrics, seem to fit right about now. >>> good evening. it's great to have you with us this wednesday night. and the numbers are not any easier to share. america's death toll surpassing 14,000. the deadliest 24 hours yet. in new york, at least 779 lives lost in 24 hours. a staggering number. the president expressing confidence that the u.s. has enough ventilators to respond to the needs of the states. saying it looks li

intelligence analysis. and in this circumstance it may be very clear to see that donald trump wanted vengeance for him to doing his job last august and reporting this up, but you also have to understand this man has been in the job and has been watching the flow of intelligence, the consumption of information from the trump white house since that time and now at what could arguably be the most dangerous period for american citizens since 1918. he's being removed from his job for watching out for corruption within the intelligence process. that leads me to a why that every intelligence analyst, inspector general in the community is asking themselves this morning. why is he doing this? >> malcolm thanks as always for joining us. malcolm nance is a former naval intelligence officer and an msnbc terrorism analyst. he's the author of the book "the plot to betray america." >>> coming up, rethinking america's health care. there may be no better time to change it. i spoke to 2020 democrat candidate bernie sanders a

intelligence community. and the reason that inspector general was fired was because he allowed a member of the intelligence community, a whistle-blower to speak the truth and, you know, engraved on the lobby wall of the cia in the original headquarters building is the quote from the new testament. you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. if you speak the truth and base your analysis on facts, good policy can follow. but of course if you're just interested in pursuing your own agenda and facts be damned you'll get a bad outcome. when we have wavered from the intelligence community's best judgment, their expertise we have pursued bad policies that have resulted in severely negative consequences for the united states and i think this really emanated, nicolle, from the beginning of the president's tenure in office when the intelligence communities come to him, look, this is an uncomfortable reality that russia involved, and from that moment on, he was determined to undermine the u.s. intelligen

a single intelligence agency says rep to stop this. the chinese operatives who are part of the army were hacking in the hack those computers and hack the home network of a chinese act are and they hack the broader network that was turning out these operations may hack the internet company so they could look at the billing records and confirm who is behind these activities? the use that information to go and be ready to defend against the pats. a cat and mouse game happens in cyberspace a daily competition. all of those was secret. it's endemic. >> commonly used between the time the u.s. was able to counter size on china and how many -- they make its been unfolding years and is worth saying this was one battle and a much broader war or when the espionage case in a broader campaign. it was one case in which nice tasted very well but there are many in which the chinese activity went uninhibited an expensive chinese campaign against a military invasion and the warplanes. the chinese hackers pulled out reams of information about displaying.

he also helped gather intelligence and bombings and targets in berlin.at one point, with the network of locals who had helped them and i'm skipping ahead a little bit here, this is one of the local spies. local resistance fighters and it doesn't look like it but this was a hotel room in [inaudible] and she was anti- nazi andnt agreed to hide the three men in her hotel attic and another woman, maria, also helped and she had alternative motives and she built those anti- nazi and fallen in love with freddy. this was after they parachuted down into the glacier that you saw here and you see this glacier at 13000 feet but they needed help from the locals and from mama [inaudible] and many others and maria was quite taken with the young american and she was almost willing to do everything she -- she would bicycle to drive in and out of town and she would give him food and agreed to carry messages back and forth for him and she became one of the linchpins of this resistance network that they developed. also a critical importance were the sisters of this man who

so we used the intelligence community input in a variety of ways. one of the debates occurring in the process was, is it a viable strategy to turn over the responsibility for quelling siberian violence to iraqi forces? there was an iraq study group and it had a certain appeal to people. let the iraqis deal with sectarian violence and we will deal with al qaeda and have a division of labor. it was a serious proposal by many and we investigated it and asked a number of different bodies to give us their assessment of what happens in that instance. are the iraqis strong enough to beat back the sectarian violence on their own without coalition assistance? we asked for a variety of opinions and the intelligence community assessment was important. all of the assessments said the iraqis are completely incapable of taking this on their own and we should expect much larger scale sectarian violence if we go that direction. we turn to the intelligence community for evaluation along those lines. i remember that to be very useful. >> the one i remember that was s

has been monitoring intelligence that he had a surgery. the aftermath of that surgery, there were complications. >> announcer: this is new day with alisyn camerota and john berman. >>> welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world, this is new day. it's tuesday, april 21st, 6:00 in new york. a huge amount of news this morning from the american south to north korea, to the u.s. border. first, a huge gamble being taken by some u.s. govern norors evenh the national death toll doubling in one week. some states relaxing many social distancing restrictions. on friday, in georgia gyms, barber shops, hair salons, massage therapists, tattoo parlors can reopen. restaurants can reopen on monday. south korea, texas, planning to follow suit in certain ways. none of these states has seen a 14-day decline, which was a recommendation by president trump. later this hour we'll speak to a mayor of a georgia city that's seen one of the worst coronavirus outbreaks. why he is so nervous about this new order. >>> also breaking overnight, p

intelligence community from outside experts. but reporting from a team trump's own officials were warning about this last year. alex azar and senior national security council official tim morrison were at a conference in 2019, and they both said that possible pandemic was chief among their worries. and they suggested it was something that keeps them awake at night. morrison said it's something we might not be preparing for to sufficient extent, but need to worry about. there were warnings coming from outside from people quite close to the president. >> daniel dale, thank you very much. >>> next, on the front lines inside a new york city hospital, more than 6500 coronavirus cases reported in the city in just the past day. i'm going talk to a doctor and a nurse working, risking their own lives to save their patients. >>> so take a look at your screen right now. live pictures of the empire state building. that red light symbolizing a heartbeat to pay tribute to all those infected with coronavirus. new york city has become ground ze

intelligence community from outside public health experts. but reporting from our team shows that trump's own senior officials were warning about this last year. alex azar, the secretary of health. and then-senior national security advisor -- council official tim morrison. at a conference in april 2019 and they both said a possible pandemic was chief among their worries. and they suggested it was something that keeps them awake at night. morrison said it's something that, you know, might not be preparing for to a sufficient extent but we need to think about. so not only were the warnings coming from outside, they were coming from quite close to the president. >> daniel dale, thank you very much. next on the front lines. inside a new york hospital. more than 6,500 new coronavirus cases reported in the city in just the past day. i'm going to talk to a doctor and a nurse working, risking their own lives to save their patients. screen right now. live pictures of the empire state building. that red light, symbolizing a heartbeat to pay tribute to

what we know is the white house directed intelligence officials to gather intelligence that basically pertains to what the world health organization and china knew about coronavirus in the early days and when they first learned those things. we know that there was a so-called tasking that went out last week to the defense intelligence agency, to the national security agency basically saying gather whatever you have on this issue. they're looking for things like human intelligence, satellite images, communications, the intercepts, things like that. and the cia got a similar directive. it's all basically aimed at -- whether it's compiling some sort of gathering this material together to kind of point out what china knew, what the world health organization knew, when they knew it. we know that the president is, as you said, very unhappy with the world health organization and china, although he's praised china's handling of the coronavirus in the past. his critics largely have seen this as an attempt for him to get the evidence after having a conclusion to do something that he sees as pol

really highlight two urgent need for the intelligence community.he first, of course, is to determine the origin, the source of the virus. that is so policy makers can use that intelligence to take steps and illustrate measures to prevent future outbreaks. the second urgent intelligence need is ascertaining chinese intentions. whether they knowingly spread the virus or allowed to it spread. that intelligence could, and i'm going to stress the "could" here, be integrated into policy decisions to hold the chinese accountable. but intelligence is only as valuable as president trump decides to make it. using that intelligence to make policy decisions requires a president that in the first instance actually digests intelligence and second a president that's willing to hold bad actors accountable. unfortunately, president trump failed to check either of those boxes. >> in fact, the president was asked if there should be consequences for china if they were, in fact, knowingly responsible for this outbreak. here's his response. >> do you think there should

intelligence were warning about it but this is one case there was not an intelligence failure as arguably there was before 9/11. this was a real warning in realtime and was ignored by the president and his advisers. with all of the push for reopening the economy, which is urgent and understandable, the reporting from a new poll, yamiche, from "the washington post" today and also the university of maryland, shows that most of the american people are strongly in favor of obeying the restrictions, 66% feeling it was appropriate. only 17% feeling the restrictions were too restrictive. 16% saying that they're not restrictive enough. so there's a widespread support for continuing to play it safe. >> that's right, andrea. americans are looking at the future, looking at their own lives and are worried about the idea that the economy could be opened too quickly. that's why you see in that poll most people think it is but president trump is being very clear he's aligning himself with pest who protest these stay-at-home orders. another important thing to note is president sees his future as tied to

intelligence agencies were warning about a new virus back in november.sponding. >>> senator bernie sanders has now talked to former vice president joe biden hours after sanders bowed out of the presidential race. plus what biden is saying about picking a running mate. >>> it's that quarantine sensation that just keeps on giving. 1 in 9 americans has seen "tiger king." guess what, y'all, it even came up in the white house press briefing room. we are not making this up. president trump was asked would he pardon joe exotic? his answer ahead on this thursday, april >>> hm. >> this is where we're at. >> i will say, last night i became that ninth american. finally finished, only took three weeks, the ninth american who's seen "tiger king." >>> first we do need to get right to the latest developments at this hour involving the coronavirus. the country is reeling from another spike in the death toll. nearly 2,000 americans dying from the coronavirus since this time yesterday. new york set another dreadful record with nearly 800 lives lost in one day. and deaths