we don't is have a very good intelligence system. and remember, intelligence is an estimate.if we have people in the intelligence community that are leaking partial information for politics. and so we are in this situation now where adam schiff, nancy pelosi and then reporters like jake tapper push these narratives out that say russia, russia, russia. let me just be very clear, russia about propaganda, and that's what they have been pushing from the very beginning. everyone should be clear that russia minutes information -- manipulates information and pushes propaganda. the chinese are on a completely different level. we have a crisis with the russians and the russian disinformation campaign, or but the current crisis, the current situation that we are dealing with that is incredibly serious is the chinese threat. it's a much higher threat. and so what john ratcliffe is trying to do is solve that problem. i applaud his work. maria: yeah. which is why i wonder who's culpable in congress that for three years of this president's term they were looking for ghosts under the bed on

who owns the intelligence. the taxpayers of america are paying billions of dollars for the collection of intelligence. we the people should have the benefit, the knowledge that that intelligence brings. learning about it next february or march doesn't do much good. we're talking about interference with our election this year, which we know is going on. the intelligence community has already told us that. and these briefings ought to be on a regular updated basis. and just doing in writing doesn't cut it. i've been to hundreds of congressional hearings. i've never been to one where questions from the members didn't improve and deepen and provide context for the written testimony that was pre-filed. so, this is a real step backwards. it's a real slap in the face to the american people who have a right to know what the intelligence community knows. that's what they're there for. >> well, what do you say to the president? you heard what he said earlier today, suggesting you guys can't be trusted anymore because you

intelligence agencies.coop embedded here is they pressured the director of national intelligence to change a conclusion that russia wanted trump re-elected in 2020. dan coats said no. he was then fired. his successor change signed offoon the change, but he was fired after one of his deputies briefed congress that in fact, russia is working to re-elect president trump this year. mr. draper, i thank you for this reporting and for joining us here tonight to help us understand it. thanks very much for your time. >> my pleasure. thanks for having me on. >> i have said a lot of words about the even more words that you have reported here and that you have printed. let me ask if i got anything wrong or if you think i'm looking at anything the wrong way around. >> sure, thank you for asking because i wanted to issue two clarifications. the first and most important is that i'm not aware that joe mcguire had anything to do with the alteration of a national intelligence estimate. this all took place in his first couple

when should you use artificial intelligence? should a robot be able to kill a robot on the battlefield? should a robot be able to kill a human? these are some of the ethical conversations that come up and these are the kind of conversations that we need to be having. ashley: you are talking about competition and using ai for defense. that makes me think of the big technology companies. the fact that they are under antitrust scrutiny in d.c. a lot of employees rebel against the fact that they would take contracts with the dod, the military. what do you think of that employee unrest? that a company like google should not be working with the dod and companies have to toe a line of wanting to have a good relationship with the military but also listening to the concerns of their employees? rep. hurd: we are not going to be able to win this conflict without a partnership between the private and public sector. that level of cooperation needs to happen. i came out and was unbelievably disappointed in the project maven debacle with googl

officer will hurd collecting artificial intelligence on the chinese.he chinese have made it clear that by 2049, they want to surpass the united states of america as the sole superpower in the world. why 2049? that is 100 years of communist rule in mainland china. the way they are going to surpass the united states as the sole hegemony of the world is by being a leader in future 5g, andgy, ai, quantum, that's why they have been stealing intellectual property. that's why they have been bullying other countries in order to buy their products. that's why they are trying to be a leader in these technologies. it's a risk, but it's complicated because i would say, you know, the economies of the united states and china are more ofegrated than the economies u.s. and russia. there is a level of cooperation that already exists, which is why i go back to my first statement, reciprocity. it should be fair. everybody should have the same opportunities. and then let the best institute win. i would say, entrepreneurship and freedom and free enterprise any day of the w

intelligence community's latest conclusions and their latest information. now, earlier this month, bianna, we did see the office of the director of national intelligence put out a statement saying that three countries in particular, how they are interfering and seeking to influence the 2020 elections. namely a focus on the issue of russia and the fact that they are continuing to try and denigrate former vice president joe biden, that they are interfering in that election with the aim of hurting his chances at winning the presidency. and it also talked about the fact that china would prefer to see trump not be re-elected and that iran also would prefer not to see president trump be re-elected, it appears. so certainly there are active influence operations by several countries and the fact that the office of the director of national intelligence will not be briefing members of congress in person is smur sure to get criticism and reaction. >> joining me now to discuss this is james clapper, former director of national intelligence serving in that role from 201

you are the chairman of the intelligence committee. you don't have to tell me anything that's going to make you have to kill me because it's secret. but do you have any evidence that that's true, what the president said about mail-in voting being subject to foreign interference? >> you know, no. i mean the president has been trying to delegitimize the votes of millions of people who, during a pandemic, will of necessity be voting by mail because he's terrified of losing and he wants to try to discredit the results. what i am concerned about is we saw in 2016, the russians are more than happy to amplify disinformation, particularly when it helps donald trump. and so what we have to be on the lookout for is are the russians going to amplify the president's false claims about absentee voting, and should he challenge the results after the election, are the russians going to then also intervene to sow additional chaos in the united states? that would be very consistent with their tradecraft, and of course the president is doing nothing but

mark, what does it take to run an intelligence service?e workings of the whitehall machine at this particular moment. he had a career as an mi6 officer running agents, effectively. is that normal, for someone to become an intelligence officer and then become an ambassador? it's unusual, actually, but i have to say, when you talk to people in the service, they now say that a period outside, most recently as political director of the foreign office, is very much a desired characteristic of someone who's got to run that service. they want people to be known around whitehall and in that position, he clearly was, in downing street and all the other key customers, as they see it, for secret intelligence, they want somebody who flits easily, who is not too ingrained in the culture of secrecy and tradecraft and will step blinking onto the stage of being a chief of the service, perhaps ill—equipped to take on all the demands. in terms of his experience and portfolio, there's no doubt, when we look at what's happened in the last couple of months in

mark, what does it take to run an intelligence service?n the workings of the whitehall machine at this particular moment. he had a career as an mi6 officer running agents, effectively. is that normal, for someone to become an intelligence officer and then become an ambassador? it's unusual, actually, but i have to say, when you talk to people in the service, they now say that a period outside, most recently as political director of the foreign office, is very much a desired characteristic of someone who's got to run that service. they want people to be known around whitehall and in that position, he clearly was, in downing street and all the other key customers, as they see it, for secret intelligence, they want somebody who flits easily, who is not too ingrained in the culture of secrecy and tradecraft and will step blinking onto the stage of being a chief of the service, perhaps ill—equipped to take on all the demands. in terms of his experience and portfolio, there's no doubt, when we look at what's happened in the last couple of months

the idea that they would actually be sharing intelligence, i think, would actually be sharing intelligence further. every state will share the intelligence that enfield suits them, that will say further their that enfield suits them, that will say furthertheiraims, china that enfield suits them, that will say further their aims, china is that enfield suits them, that will say furthertheiraims, china is no different. when it comes to matters of islamic terrorism, which they tried to paint under in xinjiang place, who are turkic speaking people, so people who the new mi6 director might have more of an income at that is a place where they might find common ground. but thing increasingly between the west and china, it is becoming more and more fraught relationship. eunice, give usa fraught relationship. eunice, give us a european's take on this, it is one thing to gather intelligence on societies like china or russia, but obviously, for chinese and russian agents inside open societies, whether the uk, europe or north america, these are much more porous and open places to gather information, su

it is very hard to get what they want out of the intelligence community. they don't have as much leverage as they would like to have and sort of playing chicken with the intelligence community's budget is something that they've been hesitant to do in the past at least based on our public reporting about the way those negotiations have gone. >> before i let you go we've had two people in the last hour responding to this news saying, this is a big deal. can you put this into perspective in terms of why it is such a big deal and so unprecedented? >> it is a big deal because it's a dramatic and public clash between the intelligence community and capitol hill. it's a big deal because it involves an issue that is an immensely big deal. to one who cares about voting and the entirety of the american elections. and it potentially tees off significant friction between the hill and the intelligence community. one of the most important questions will be whether republicans on capitol hill are critical of the decision that the intelligence community has made here or wh

the top intelligence office will no longer brief congress on election security in person. there will be written updates. that means no chance to press intel officials on conclusions. democrats are threatening a subpoena. the decision comes weeks after the intel community warned that china, iran, and russia, all of them are trying to interfere in the 2020 election. why the move toward secrecy. jeremy diamond at the white house. >> over the weekend, we learned that the director of national intelligence has informed congressional leaders that his office will no longer brief members of congress in person on matters of election security, and these questions of foreign interference in the 2020 presidential elections. now, this is a big change because of course we have seen briefings in the past from the office of the director of national intelligence, including a series of briefings in july in which i was told at director of national entenls aintelligence officials indicated they would continue to provide in-person briefings. no longer, the director of national intelligence and

intelligence has concluded that vladimir putin. is offering bounties for the scalps of american soldiers in afghanistan. and now in the world of c.n.n. iran is doing it too again according to the channel's so-called sources familiar with the intelligence. 10 has just learned that an assessment by u.s. intelligence agencies has found that iran in addition to russia also paid bounties to taliban fighters to target u.s. and coalition troops in afghanistan. now like cnn's claims about russia now they're saying that iran has been paying bounties to a taliban affiliated network specifically for involving the attack on big air base in afghanistan that that took place back in december now back then 2 civilians were killed and over 70 people were injured including 4 u.s. troops so far no evidence has been provided to connect iran or anyone to this attack aside from the taliban just like in the case of russia but that didn't stop democrats from going berserk over it when they heard about it. there's overwhelming evidence that putin has gone

i'll push the intelligence community to come clean with all their information. and then americans ought to make sure we decide this election, not foreign entities. >> senator, one brief last question for you. there's been public reporting that your committee believes and referred to the justice department that a number of people associated with the trump campaign may have lied to your committee over the course of your investigation. i know you'll be reluctant to talk about criminal referrals, but do you believe there were people who lied to your committee and should they be prosecuted? >> rachel, the chairman said you shouldn't lie to our committee. i'm not going to talk about referrals. that's not appropriate. again, whatever happened was turned over to the justice department. >> virginia senator mark warner, thank you for helping us understand this. after the dnc is over, i think there's going to be a second round of focus on what you guys have done here. i look forward to talking to you about it then, sir. >> thank you. >>> we've got much more to come here th

it's not the way the intelligence community works. it's not a surprise he failed to bring it up with vladimir putin. the only way he's likely to bring it up in conversations which we wants no witnesses would be to say they say you're offering a bounty on troops. i know you wouldn't do a thing like that. it's a hoax. and in fact, this is essentially the same thing that he did in helsinki and took putin's side over intelligence agency. >> i want to note how important it is that these questions get asked more than once. he conducted a masterful interview about this subject. he appeared on the program discussing it. we showed that questioning in full. he comes along a few days later and goes into the same territory. but gets new material. gets this piece adding it's a russian hoax. all of which goes to when you look at things like the impeachment investigation. the value of being able to get witnesses and including the value it would have been to the mueller report to get donald trump as a witness and ask questions from more than one angl

so it's not unprecedented for the intelligence community to publicly explain the intelligence they're seeing, particularly when it's something directed at the american people and it's an ongoing campaign. the american people deserve to know what's happening. >> secretary johnson, forgive me p. i'm told we need to break away for a moment to go back to the president who is speaking on an important issue. please stand by. >> the cleanup and cutting the trees down, they're distributing food and water and ice and they're managing warehouses, they're delivering generators. monday they're going to start testing as well. so i appreciate the question. we're going to get right back on it. why are they turning on the monitors to check for chemicals coming from some of the refineries around here? >> i don't know the answer to that. i can get you the answer. >> i can tell you we had it on the ground on friday or thursday. i lose track of him. they've been on the ground in the lake charles, westlake, sulfur area monitoring for air quality, so they've been here since the day the storm hit. i'm quite

intelligence official versus repeatedly dismissed in recent weeks.f course, the lack of these in-person briefings for members of congress means they won't be able to press those on claims like that by the president. jamie dimon, cnn, the white house. >> now, jeremy mentioned there, the opposition to the white house move, mark warner of the senate intelligence committee said this quote, russia interfered in our elections in 2016 and they are doing it again if 2020. one, the lessons we should draw from what happened in 2016 is that congress and the american public need to know more information about the election interference threat, not less. another law maker on the committee says this should not be a part of an issue. >> we, the people, should have the benefits, the knowledge that that intelligence brings. learning about it next february or march doesn't do much good. we are talking about interference with our election this year, which we know is going on. the intelligence community has already told us that. >> cnn senior political analyst has been a

intelligence agencie agencies. the fbi, the cia, the nsa as well as the military intelligence units. the office of director of national intelligence which has been reporting to congress on things like which foreign countries are interested in interfering in our elections. they will no longer provide the in-person briefings. fbi and homeland security department will continue in-person briefings for lawmakers on things like misinformation campaign, cyber attacks that are threatening the election. system of those practical matters of getting into the weeds of it. as far as the big picture stuff that lawmakers want to hear from the administratioadministration going to get the in-person hearings there. fbi is saying the fbi is committed to keeping congress informed on election security and maligned foreign influence threats. protecting our elections remains a top priority for the fbi. fbi saying it will not comment beyond those few words. we're hearing more from ratcliff on why he made this decision that his office will

get intelligence. the political context mentioned is interesting an important. the intelligence and national security aspect of this has been a piece that's driving the tiktok story but also other ones. >> jeff mason known to throw a couple good moves on tiktok. we decided not to show it to viewers today. michael, i started by mentioning the president promising to release comprehensive health care and immigration plans and what might be in it that might at this point help him gain points in polls which he is falling behind steadily. >> one more political point on the tiktok issue, you're talking about if there were a ban, alienated tens of millions of potential voters that liked the platform, including conservatives that used it because they prefer it to some more traditional ones. when it comes to policy proposals, it is a joke. he gets pinned down in an interview, says two weeks, it seems like a reasonable period of time, we get to the end of two weeks and no closer to solution to the problems than w

you are the chairman of the intelligence committee. you don't have to tell me anything that's going to make you have to kill me because it's secret, but do you have anything about that? >> no. i mean, the president has been trying to delegit miez the votes of many people. what i am concerned about is we saw in 2016 is russians are more than happy to amplify disinformation, particularly when it helps donald trump. and so what we have to be on the lookout for is are the russians going to amplify the president's false claims about absentee voting and should he challenge the results after the election, are the russians going to then also intervene to sew additional chaos in the united states? that would be very consistent with their trade and the president is doing nothing but inviting that interference by discrediting any belief he's been told and also discrediting the legitimate votes of millions of americans. >> congressman adam schiff, thank you for joining us, sir. it is good to see you. >>> coming up, 10.2%, still the highest since t

and this morning, there was growing criticism of the intelligence, the director of national intelligence's bankrupt decision to end in-person briefings on national security citing concerns with leaks. what typele less transparency n? >> joining us now to talk about all of this, we have cnn's senior law enforcement analyst, andrew mccabe. the former deputy director of the fbi. andy, great to see you. i think that, you know, obviously, it's our job to keep things in perspective and context. so 183,000 americans dead from coronavirus. of course, the president is trying to distract. he doesn't like talking about that death toll. and it is easy to find a distraction in the videos of these pockets of unrest in the country, though relatively speaking, they are small pockets in kenosha, wisconsin, or portland. but still, he is much more focused on that violence. and he, you know, tries to depict america as being in flames and cities suffering with anarchy. though the numbers don't bear that out. we're talking about several dozen violent protesters. and tragically, three people dead. and the 17-yea

chairman of the house permanent select committee on intelligence.irman schiff, your reaction to much of what we just heard but specific le the line donald trump saying quality i think it is another russia hoax." >> well it seemed like he thinks i write his presidential daily brief. look, it doesn't end up in the presidential daily brief if it is a hoax. our intelligence community not only does put hoaxes into the presidential daily brief buts rather it is the gold standard. when you are an intelligence analyst you often measure your work product by the standard of, did it make it into the number 1 customer's brief. well the white house doesn't deny that it was in his presidential daily brief. so when the president says it didn't make it to his desk he's just lying about it. apparently he's also lying about reading the briefs. but this is not a hoax. and the fact that the intelligence community is still looking for additional evidence doesn't make it a hoax. if he only relied on things signed, sealed and delivered of course we couldn't have taken out

how intelligence committee chairman adam schiff responds. >>> plus team effort. again, america's sports players take a stand, cancelling games in protest of police violence. >> it's exhausting being black, especially when you're a celebrity. >>> why is this moment different? wnba star and president of the women's association, neka -- will be here ahead. >>> in the middle of a pandemic that is still not until control, and as the name comes to a reckoning, protests recharged by the police shooting of jacob blake in wisconsin. we have breaking new. just overnight another person was killed near a protest, this time in portland, oregon, where demonstrators clashed with pro-trump ralliers. according to "new york times," the man who was killed, was wearing a hat with a patriot prayer insignia, a far right group in.. this is after in kenosha, wisconsin -- and we have breaking news about the security of the election. jake tapper learned that the office of the director of national intelligence will no longer brief congress in person on election security, a moment that hous

i have been covering intelligence for ten years and never seen anything like this.n of leaks doesn't pass the logic test. there's still a danger of leaking in written information. i think the more telling explanation from john ratcliffe, a former republican member is that he want it is intelligence community to speak with one voice on the question of foreign election interference and don't want officials getting behind closed doors with lawmakers where they're able to grill him and question him about the intelligence products because that has revealed we are told that in fact russia is the main danger here. democrats said publicly according to the intelligence while the administration mentioned china and iran as wanting donald trump to be re-elected, russia is only country that's actively intervening to help donald trump on social media and a threat to hack and leak and interfere with election processes and it's a mump greater threat than sort of generalized interference of china with propaganda and democrats saying that vocally. trump and the min i don't knows don'

that's not the way the intelligence community works.not a surprise he failed to bring this up with vladimir putin. the only way he could have brought it up in these conversations would be to say, hey, putin, they say you are offering a bounty on my troops. i know you wouldn't do a thing like that, it is just another hoax. in fact, this is essentially the same thing that he did in held ly helsinki. >> i want to note how important it is that these questions get asked more than once because jonathan swan performed a masterful interview with donald trump. and then evan donovan comes along a few days later and basically goes into the same territory but gets new material, gets this piece of donald trump adding it's a russian hoax, all of which goes to when you look at things like the impeachment investigation, the value of being able to get witnesses, including the value that it would have been to the mueller report, for example, to get donald trump as a witness and to be able to ask questions from more than one angle, especially with a witne

intelligence, rather, and have not heard back. we're also waiting for a response from the two committees, house and senate. it is notable that in that report, as you note, they noted that russia, china and iran are all intervening in the election. they know china had a professor for joe biden and that the russia seems to have a preference for donald trump. we should also note that this is, to a degree, kind of chumming the waters because even though china and iran are trying to get involved in the election, what they are doing, according to the intelligence and other administration officials, dealing with national security, what the chinese and iranians are doing is nothing compared to what the russians are doing. the russians have obviously been trying to muck around in elections in the western world for years and years and years and are much more -- have much more expertise and are much better at doing this nefarious thing. >> they're much more sophisticated. last question, jake. how unusual is this statement from the odni? >> i

politicizing intelligence.esident of the united states. it is the executive branch that is informed by this and not intended for public consumption. congress has a role in oversight but it can perform the role with written communications. this is about trying to head off some of the outrageous perversions of intelligence we've seen over many years. particularly the last year. adam schiff, for example, knew very well russia had not colluded and continued to lie and use the sort of leaked intelligence as the basis of that. >> julie: i want to play kayleigh mcenany. she was on "fox & friends" earlier today talking about exactly how out of control these leaks are and how quick the turnaround is. it's incredible. >> john ratcliffe is going to do what is his statutory responsibility and make sure congress is briefed but what we aren't going to do is enable leaks that are all too often done for partisan purposes. he briefed on july 31st. within minutes there were leaks all throughout newspapers by congressmen and wome

house intelligence committee adam schiff responds. >>> plus, team effort. again, america's sports players take a stand, canceled games in protest of police violence. >> it's exhausting being black, especially when you are a celebrity. >> wnba star will be here ahead. >>> hello. i'm dana bash in for jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is bit early divided. with both conventions mind behi, it is more clear than ever that this is an election year like no other. as the nation comes to a reckoning with racial injustice, protests recharged by the shooting of jacob blake in wisconsin. just overnight another person was killed near a protest, this time in portland, oregon with demonstrators clashed with protrump rallyiers. the man who was killed was wearing a hat with a far right group based in portland. this death comes after two people were killed during a protest in kenosha, wisconsin where a 17-year-old trump supporter has been charged with those murders. we have breaking news about the security of the election. jake tapper learned that the of

regular briefings of the intelligence committees to inform them about the classified intelligent explaining what foreign governments are trying to do to interfere in the 2020 presidential election. russia, china and iran all have an interest in the outcome of the election. china and iran want trump to lose and russia want him to win. in reaction to those public statements which were based on classified intelligence the lawmakers who saw the classified information accused the trump administration of distorting it and of minimizing the outsized role of russia. and they say that russia is really the only country actively interfering in the 2020 information, active on social media with disinformation, it is interesting in hacking and leaking. and that appears to be the source of this controversy. now the trump administration is saying we are not going the brief these committees in person anymore. by law, they have to turn over classified intelligence materials in writing. but this is going to mean that these lawmakers can't question officials behind closed doors about what this intelligence mea

officer, believed to be acting in the role of an intelligence liaison or intelligence recruiter, we't know, but at this point he had so much contact with manafort who did the same thing for the pro-moscow ukranian president in 2004 and 2014, to throw an election into the hands of your allies, but manafort also took polling data, data related to the internals of the campaign and gave this to the suspected russian spy to use a simple term and he passed it on to a russian oligarch. from there, we don't know how they managed to influence the united states, but the threats are there. this is a very dangerous circumstance for the united states because the president's own campaign manager may have been a russian intelligence asset, if not an agent of a foreign power. >> natasha, republicans signed off on this report. what does that tell you? >> yes, so that obviously gives it even more legitimacy in the sense that there was marco rubio who signed off on this, said yes, these conclusions are sound, worked on this. stavros worked for republican majorities worked on it for years. this is a bi

congress woman jackie speier who is on the intelligence committee is joining me for this.e have being telling me for weeks that it is classified that they need to tell the american people about the degree to which russias are interfering. they are trying to get it declassified and they think americans deserve to know that. i'll try to have jackie speier tell me about the threats we could face months from now. >> we hope that information gets out. joining us at the top of the hour. good to see you. >>> up next, millions of americans reportedly at risk of being infected, so what now? kraft. for the win win. they get that no two people are alike and customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. what do you think? i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ can leave you holding your breath. ♪ but bristol myers squibb is working to change things. by researching new kinds of medicines that could help you live longer. including options that are chemo-free. because we're committed to bringing new hope into lung cancer care

i do think you need to be very careful in what you raise with foreign leaders about intelligence.i don't know what the intelligence really looks like, i probably would not have done at the level of the president president putin i would've done at a lower level and how good the intelligence was and how low the level, you don't want to be embarrassed every intelligence agency is a nevermind. >> you mentioned the rock thing, robert has an intervie book oute decision to go to i war in iraq, he looks at a granular way, very interesting book, we often think of the failure of intelligence into imagine saddam hussein did not have weapons, seemed inconceivable to many people, republicans and democrats. they did not have weapons, he think that the other way around that it was the opposite. imagination rather than facts is policy and we had concluded something and try to look for the things improve what we had already assumed were true. what lessons you take from that? >> if we had learned that the japanese were buying large amounts of chlorine, we would've said they had a lot of swimming po

claims that saudi arabia's crown prince ordered his men to kill a former intelligence agent in canada the u.s. calls their intended target a valued partner. i'm wrong about this and this is all it is either live from doha also coming up deflecting the blame in beirut as residents criticize lebanon's leaders for the deadly port blast the president suggests it could have been caused by a missile or a bomb. ripped apart after skidding off the runway at least 17 people are killed as an air india express jet crashes in the southern state of cattle plus. a huge economic impact those on the nations right across the region that's going to last for years and how the global pandemic is ravaging tourism in the pacific islands. the u.s. state department spoken out in support of a former top saudi intelligence agent who was allegedly targeted in a fall of assassination attempt it's described as a valued park them a job he filed a lawsuit in washington d.c. on thursday accusing saudi crown prince muhammad bin sultan of sending a hit squad to canada to try to kill him mike hanna has more. patrick le

it describes him as a russian intelligence officer.t is much further than he was described publicly by the special counsel's office. and it also says that there was some evidence that that person, kilimnik, was involved in the hacking operation. that is the russian operation to hack into the dnc emails and distribute those. so that's substantial new information. >> it also says that donald trump lied to you, that donald trump's answers to the special counsel's office, to your boss robert mueller, were lies. can you talk about that? >> so you're a very careful reader because i'd say that the report elegantly tries to not use the phrase "lie" but it comes darn close. and to give you the specifics on that, the president in his written answers to the special counsel's office says he doesn't remember having communications with roger stone about wikileaks. and this report, signed off by republicans and democrats, says that roger stone actively was trying to get the information from wikileaks and did so in coordination with candidate trump. s

i don't know what the intelligence really looked like. but i probably would not have done it at the level of the president and president putin. i probably would have done it at a lower level and depending on how good the intelligence level was how low the level. again, you don't want to be embarrassed if our intelligence agencies then say, oh, never mind. >> you mentioned the iraq thing. i would have mentioned robert draper has a new book out on the decision to go to war in iraq, and he looks at it in a very granular way. it's a very interesting book. and he writes that we often think of the failure of intelligence there as a failure to imagine that saddam hussein didn't have weapons, it seemed inconceivable to many people, republicans and democrats, that he didn't have weapons. but he you writes it was the other way around. imagination rather than facts had driven policy, we had concluded something and therefore tried to look for the things that prove what we had already assumed were true. what lessons do you take from that? >> context m

speaks out in support of a former saudi intelligence agent at the center of an alleged assassination plot by the crown prince. a plane repatriating indian stranded abroad because of the coronavirus skids off a runway splitting into and killing 18 also. change for. 3 day protesters in colombia step on the gas to rally against a court decision placing the president under house arrest. welcome to the program it's a decision that hong kong calls despicable and shameless they've condemned the u.s. for imposing sanctions on the territories top leaders kerry and the current and former police chiefs are among 11 officials whose u.s. assets are being frozen the sanctions come a month after president of trump stripped hong kong of a special status at the time he said he was punishing china for imposing a national security law on hong kong so a clock joins us now from the city was the response really been from the government in hong kong despite those initial words. well the condemnation has been swift not just from the hong kong government but also a by beijing's top representative in hong kon

the director of national intelligence, john ratliff answered to the president,s the intelligence committee has oversight there but who has the leverage here. i would like your perspective here but ken, what's your sense of who has the leverage. >> congress does not have much much leverage here. we know congressional subpoenas take a long time to enforce and we are ten weeks from the election. the executive branch -- it does not say in what form. there may be a legal challenge to it. this was the last bipartisan area in washington, oversight intelligence where the executive branch agreed to give congress -- that's broken down here but unfortunately, i don't see it any way especially if republicans are standsing up to trump. i don't see any leverage that congress has to change this. >> congressman moothi are there any particular, i know there are certain things you can't disbut to the extent that you can, are there certain concerns that you have, related to elections security that makes you willing to go to the matt to get back to in-person briefings or do you think your concerns can be reas

he is the head of federal intelligence agencies.ing he has filed multiple crime reports and that there are investigations into illegal leaks of classified information to the media, maybe by members of congress. this after dni ratcliff announcing his office will put on pause in-person individual briefings to congress about security threats to the 2020 elections. they will still get reports. the committees will still be debriefed. we have matthew whitaker. your thoughts, sir? kt mcfarland says the leaks are really getting out of control and they're criminal. what do you think? >> liz, first of all, glad to be with you, tonight. what i think john ratcliffe is telling us something very important, and that is, there are members of both the intelligence community and possibly members of congress that are criminal leakers and this is not only un-american but it is really disgusting. these intelligence leaks that really don't allow the federal government to function the way it should. that it is done instead of to improve legislation, impro

the top democrat on the intelligence committee, always in the past been bipartisan joins me now. senator, thank you very much. a lot of concern from the house side over this cutting off of the in-person briefings because we know in a statement first of all that's not sworn testimony when they send something in writing, that is released publicly, and they can't be questioned. can't be questioned about, you know, what are the other analysts saying and how do you reach these conclusions? according to ratcliffe, this weekend with fox business, he's saying it's because he thought that russia was unfairly being considered the biggest threat when he says china is the biggest threat. if you could unpack some of that? >> andrea, there's a lot to unpack there, and you know let me step back for a moment and one of the things i think we all would acknowledge. if the intelligence community and frankly even if the obama administration in 2016 had been more forward leaning about informing the american public of russian interference in 2016, we'd be all better off. our committee, which has been

handsel, talking about intelligence normally a customer of the intelligence agencies is the president, the secretary of defense or the cia, the policymaker, sometimes a member of congress. i would argue that every four years your customer is the american people because when they vote on november 3rd they are the decision makers. they are the policy makers, and they need and deserve your intelligence about information involving foreign actors that may influence or try to influence our election. will you push for the declassification when possible and i understand about sources and methods, but i think you need to think about who is your customer, and every four years in november your customer is the american people. do you view it that way, mr. handsel? >> senator, as you alluded to part of my responsibility if confirmed would be secure our classified information and our sources of method. however, as i stated ural i do believe the best disinfectant for misinformation is the sunlight. and certainly if confirmed would work with the broader intelligence community and the office to determ