intelligence and intelligence sharing. i'm going to have to get caught up a little bit more on all of the letters. i understand all the letter agency you talked about, and perhaps you can think about this about classified, do you think there are any gaps about how this information gets communicated within the d.o.d. and between agencies so that they can be most effectively used? i don't know if there's something you can say about that now, you look like you are eager to answer that question. >> i'll just comment that we're rebuilding muscle memory, as we operate in this information domain. so clearly there are gaps and how we do that. we are working through. that we can talk a bit more about that later. >> that's fine and i yield back thank you mister chairman. >> thank you, mister scott. >> thank you chairman, i don't have a whole lot. i was at one of our military installations the other day, speaking about the anger i see out there, and one of the generals suggested that they are seeing in their ranks to. and i watch the

intelligence committee is now describing as a great coup for russian intelligence. michael caputo hosting that documentary to stovepipe the russian intelligence operation disinformation to the u.s. public. michael caputo is his name. he is the same michael caputo who within a matter of months donald trump would install as the top spokesperson at the department of health and human services as the covid-19 pandemic really got going. michael caputo would eventually find himself there embroiled in a massive scandal for censoring and altering massive cdc documents to try to play down the threat of coronavirus and undermining covid efforts. back at him. i mean, this is not your usual mess. yes, we are reckoning now with how to build up a national covid response from the wreckage that was left behind by the trump administration, but, i mean, what is this wreckage? one of the things we learned just this week from the intelligence director that part of the disastrous trump covid response is that trump put in a key covid response role one of the people who helped russian inte

that said, the broader issue of intelligence and intelligence sharing. i'm going to have to get caught up on the letters. i understand all the agencies you talked about. but and perhaps you can think about this in classified if you think there are any gaps and how that information gets communicated within the d.o.d. and agencies. i don't know if there is something you can say something about that now? >> i'll comment that we are rebuilding memory. we operate in this kind of information domain and so clearly there are gaps in how we do that. we can talk about that in a closed session. >> i yield back. mr. gallego: representative scott. mr. scott: i don't have a whole lot. i was on one of our military installations the other day and the width and the depth of the anger i see out there and one of the generals are seeing it in their ranks, too and i watched the documentary "social dilemma" and people are able to use information against us. as a suggestion for the committee and the comment from the people who are presenting is are we discussing with our soldi

intelligence services. this said they could never discern exactly what was going on there, why trump's campaign chairman was shoveling all this campaign material to a russian intelligence officer. they said they never got to the bottom of it because even though manafort was interviewed a dozen times, he lied consistently during these interviews about one issue in particular, his interactions with kilimnik, the russian intelligence officer at the center of the committee's investigation. these lies violated paul manafort's plea agreement which obligated him to be truthful in his cooperation with the government. those lies therefore exposed manafort to a more severe prison sentence than his plea agreement contemplated. manafort's obfuscation of the truth surrounding konstantin kilimnik was particularly damage to go the committee's investigation because it directly foreclosed insight into a series of interactions and communications that are the most direct tie between senior trump campaign officials and the rus

intelligence community?> there's a couple of things you need to focus on to -- to think about this and put it in context, wolf. let me give you a few. one, i was surprised at how unanimous the report is. there's a little bit of dissent in the report, but having served in the intelligence community, people in that community fight all the time there. appears to be a lot of unanimity across the -- the intelligence community about how much is going on. also the levels of confidence in that report, that seems boring to outsiders, but people on the inside spend a lot of time trying to figure out how confident they should portray their findings. the one thing i would close on, wolf, what you're talking about in terms of significance is four or five years ago the u.s. intelligence community was unprepared and extremely uncomfortable talking about foreign interference in u.s. elections. we've come a long way in five years to the point where the intel guys are saying not only will we do this but we'll declassify it pr

when a critical intelligence report is received by the capital police from an intelligence community source like the fbi, who usually would receive it. did you receive this report? >> thank you for the question. in the last 24 hours, i was informed they had received that report and it was received by what we call one of our sworn members assigned to the task force which is a task force with the fbi. they received it on the evening of the fifth, reviewed and forwarded it over to an unofficial at the intelligence division at the capitol police headquarters. >> so you hadn't seen it yourself. >> it did not go any further than that. >> was it sent to the house and sergeant at our? >> i don't believe it went any further from the intelligence division. >> and did you get that report? >> before hand? >> no. >> i did not. >> okay. i think that may have contributed to the lack of information, but i will leave that for the future. now let's go back to another report i know on january 3rd you said in your testimony the capital police published intelligence assessments of the event including one

in the pandemic and we have as a requirement of our intelligence bill ask for national intelligence estimate on the impact of the pandemic. and i hope that will examine the impact on the rise of authoritarianism even if it analyzes other things like the degree to which it might have created more fertile soil for the birth of a terrorist organization like licensor al qaeda or others. i would expect that without the ability to gather vertically and large numbers, first time that provided another advantage for under president didn't need to worry about mass demonstrations as much in the streets. and how craving the pandemic to do it nonetheless as more people are vaccinated, the probably give more freedom to organize and associate to try to stand down some of the space sounds autocratic regimes. but we are going to need to analyze the impact on the pandemic and exasperated our national vulnerabilities. if as well as analyzing a deep dive on this and have them for much of the last year. with the intelligence community's role and the pandemic awareness in the tripwire from pandemic. this is a ver

it wasn't it was whether intelligence professionals were telling us. it had an impact to hold those former officials accountable and i think it's useful the future intelligence leaders know that if they don't speak plainly to the country or withhold information or tried to shade it to favor the incumbent, their actions will be revealed. so what is actually in that report of significance? first russia was not deterred from all love the reaction from its interference in 2016, it continued through an aggressive social media campaign, over media campaign to try to insolence events in the election and more than that one different vector back in 2016 in addition to the media they also hacked democratic institutions and leaked the documents. there were certainly efforts at spearfishing and other malign activities but we didn't see to the scale of four years earlierns but what we did see was the willingness of the kremlin to use persons to launder the disinformation. they want to push out the narrative that russia hadn't interfered four years ago in ukraine an

the more intelligent you are and so i think that if we can make machines are much more intelligent by that definition than us it's either going to be the best thing ever happen to humanity or the worst and i'm very excited about you what can we do now things. in a good direction. and society sometimes it's hard to push it would something if they're not going to as free health care or equal rats fan base is the one that you see for any society to make an even more drastic step towards. turn all decision making over. it's obviously hard which is why we have so many problems on this planet right but we also. have seen a lot of examples of that how we can make progress you know if we were having this conversation. 30000 years ago we are probably both be dead because life expectancy was very short back then and now. because of technology we've figured out how to live a longer healthier and wealthier lives and we've also done together as a society. particularly after world war 2 and tried to use a lot of technology that actually helped. everybody get better off right and with the many count

from the intelligence experts. i also meet regularly with the fop german and had a meeting last week with the chairman and i also brought in intelligence director to provide them updated communications in this leadership team has made sure that we have put in place a number of action items to communicate with our workforce. we note that our workforce. >> let me say something really quick. my time is up but i just wanted to just one more yes or no. you feel like you have the confidence of your officers? i know you can make everybody happy but do you feel that's an accurate assessment? >> i do believe that an accurate assessment. >> thank you. mr. chairman i will stop taking the time. i yield back. >> thank you. the chair of the full appropriations committee. >> thank you very much, mr. cha. i would like to follow up on the personnel in recruiting and the increased numbers. have you had conversations with the general and his team about what the departments need in order to move forward, especially in light of what ha

from the intelligent experts. i also meet regularly with the chairman. i had a meeting last week with the chairman and brought in intelligence director to provide them updated communication. this leadership team made sure we've put in place a number of items to communicate with our workforce. we know our workforce -- >> can i jump in really quick? my time is up but i wanted one or yes or no. you feel the confidence from your officers, i realize you can never make everybody happy. >> i do believe it's an accurate assessment. >> thank you. i will stop. appreciate the time. i yield back. >> thank you ms. herrera beutler. the full appropriations committee. >> thank you. i'd like to follow up on the personnel and recruiting, the increased numbers. have you had conversations general and his team about what the department needs in order to move forward especially in light of what happened january 6? >> yes, ma'am. i've had several conversations with general and his team. we work closely together for them to provide that

strategy and intelligence. miss host recent work is boy behind the enigma. ". nicole peril roll is a an award winning cyber security journalist where he work has been openinged for both film and television. she is a regular lecturer at the stanford graduate school of business and a graduate of princeton university and stanford yard. she live with her family bay area but prefers life off grid in their cabin in the would have hads, and i know how that feels. well, welcome to both of you. for those who are watching and don't goal me, i'm malcolm nance, the msnbc counterterrorism contributor and analyst. and i am a u.s. navy veteran, crip tollingist, code braker, arabic enterter and all-around spy for 30-plus years. >> i really know these authors and that's a really good because many of my questions are steeped on my career as an intelligence collector and stafford with the book "behind the enigma. "i come from the code-breaking world so needless to say anything related to world war ii starting off with the enigma

intelligence community report.ell our viewers what you're learning. >> reporter: president biden since his first day in office made clear he will impose costs on russia if he feels that the u.s. has been attacked and the u.s. is planning to apply sanctions to russia as soon as next week according to u.s. officials. the details of those sanctions are still a little bit unclear, but it underscored that this will be the second time the biden administration have sanctioned entities in russia, the first with relation to alexei navalny. there's also an expectation that even more will be coming beyond just this election interference issue. obviously the solar winds hack is an investigation that's still ongoing. u.s. officials saying they're still uncovering the details of the depth of that hack that led to the intrusion of several u.s. government agencies as well. what you're seeing from the biden administration is obviously a change in tone, but also an attempt to take action. they're absolutely willing to work with russ

responsibility. >> i believe counter intelligence at large domestically not only confined to human intelligence, yes, under the fbi authority. >> thank you ms. ugoretz. given the scope of the apparent breach and the number of federal agencies affected and vulnerable to this attack was this a counterintelligence failure? >> drawing on my experience as an analyst i joined the fbi as the intelligence analyst november 2001 when the term intelligence failure became a part of the killer. i do understand the context of your question and the concern. based on that perspective, when i think of an intelligence failure, it's a few different things. the first failure of imagination a forward leaning analysis going beyond the fragmentary intelligence that we have at any point in time to forecast a specific threat or incident. second, a failure to share there are many different us government agencies that have pieces of the intelligence puzzle with cyberin the private sector has one of the biggest pieces of the puzzle with our adversaries are doing hagainst private networks. that's a second way is a failure

gathering and kindly sharing of intelligence, -- timely sharing of intelligence the response and , the request for help from the defense department as well as their perspectives on how the capitol police decision-making process could be so much better going forward. we know there were errors made by those in charge of security in the capital and it is always easy to realize that later then in the moment. but that fact alone to me is not enough to not look back. we must look back because we must do better going forward. we heard that the capitol police is the consumer of intelligence. it relies on its federal partners including the fbi and department of homeland security who have witnesses here today. while we are aware of the fbi raw intelligence report that came out of the office, public reporting has indicated that neither agency, dhs or fbi produced a threat report that the fbi did not produce a joint intelligence bulletin and the dhs did not produce a threat assessment ahead of january 6. the former police chief has said that representatives from these agencies indicated they did n

this is why our intelligence -- we would >> know why our intelligence community ignore the warnings -- ignored the warnings on social media. we also need answers about the operational failures that terrible day. i am pleased that we have representatives in both the department of defense civilian leadership and the national guard to help us understand why it took several hours for the national guard to arrive and offer additional security and support. the january 6 attack remains a dark stain on our nation's history. both of our committees have a responsibility to carry on -- carry out our oversight duties in a nonpartisan way. i look forward to having a productive discussion and getting the answers that the american people deserve and what we need to do to make sure that reforms are put in place to prevent an attack like this from ever happening again. with that, i will turn it back over to chairwoman klobuchar. i want to start by thanking you and ranking member blunt and ranking member portland -- portman. i want to thank the many that participated last week. importantly, there were

and consciousness and a core idea artificial intelligence is that even in intelligence itself can be described with mathematical mathematics i think it is information processing and. when we watch movies and about ai i think they typically make us worry about the wrong thing they make us worry about robots turning evil but the real threat of the best artificial intelligence is not that it turns evil but just that it turns very competent and has goals that are not aligned with our goals for example do you hate ads like if you're working on the street and you see it and you're going to go in like step on it on purpose. i didn't think so like a nice person but suppose suppose you were in charge of building a new green energy plan. and just because before you're going to flood this valley with water you see that there's an ant hill in the middle what he wanted. exactly so you. it's not that you paid for that but you had different goals that were not aligned with those of the absolute do bad for the ads right so we want to make sure if we ever create machines that are much smarter than ou

that the intelligence agency has the information to make that decision. afd now has the possibility to go in front of courts and fight against this decision. and then, judges will look at the legal side and decide that is the way it goes in a democracy with the rule of law. and, i guess the single is this democracy is up to defend itself against its enemies. nina: that you very much. brent: hungary's prime minister has announced the withdrawal of his right-wing party from the eep, the european people's party group in the european parliament. he confirmed the move and a letter to eep chair. he made the decision to preempt them from voting out his party hungary has been in a long-running conflict with the eu over alleged violations of democratic principles and the rule of law. >> would you look to the question of how do we see family in europe, how do we see climate change, i received border protection. that is not the problem. they already have this come and go, that was never the problem. it is about the things that are going on that is the substance of t

r intelligence fail your. i do know, however, it was not a success, and we will do everything we can to make sure that what we know is better distributed and understood by our partners and to echo the bureau's point, we will also do more to better understand how we can identify the next steps that we see in social media with particular threat. >> clearly, we have to do a much better job. i'm sure this will be explored in deposition, in questioning from my colleagues here. chairwoman klobuchar. >> thank you very much, chairman. i want to start by asking you the same questions i asked our witnesses last week. based on what you know now including the recent justice department indictments, do you believe there's clear evidence that supports a conclusion that there was those who planned and coordinated the attack on the capitol on january 6? does everyone agree with that? yes? no? >> we are seeing indications from our charging documents of people that coalesced together and made plans. >> so everyone is a yes on th

there was no such intelligence. although we knew the likelihood for violence by extremist come no credible threat indicated that tens of thousands would attack the u.s. capitol. nor did the intelligence received from the fbi or any other law enforcement parker indicate such a a threat. indeed, the secret service brought vice president to the capital that day as they were also unaware of any credible threat of that magnitude. the department also did not ignore intelligence that we had, which indicate an elevated risk of violence from extremist groups. to the contrary, we heighten our security posture. there is evidence that some of those who stormed the capital were organized, but there's also evidence that a large number were everyday americans who took on a mob mentality because they were angry and desperate. it is the context of this latter group that the department was not prepared for. the department did say some operational challenges that we are addressing. for example, the capital lockdown was not properly ex

their intelligence agency has more instruments to. to collect information that might be relevant to see if this isn't party that is strongly fighting against our constitution the timing of this announcement is raising some eyebrows gemini is going to the polls in september does that not feed into conspiracy theories i think it does not convince me because turning that argument around keeping it secret that you have relevant arguments for the step now and keeping that secretly before an election letting the voters not know what this important institution this intelligence service knows that could be misleading voters too so i guess it's just the regular way things go that that right now this information comes up now that. intelligence agency has the information to make that decision there if he now has the possibility to go in front of chords and fight against this decision and then judges will look at the legal side and decide that's the way it goes in a democracy with the rule of law and i guess the signal is that this dimmock. democ

as director of national intelligence, i'm entrusted with access to more intelligence than any memberthe u.s. government other than the president. i oversee the intelligence agencies. my office produces the president's daily brief detailing the threats facing the country. if i could communicate one thing to the american people, this unique vantage point, it's this. the people's republic of china poses the greatest threat to america today and the greatest threat to democracy and freedom worldwide since world war ii. i mean, his office did not support those based on today's declassified report, phil rucker. >> yeah, nicolle. they found they did not engage in election interference as ratcliffe suggested in that op-ed, but let's keep in mind it wasn't just people in this administration perpetuaing the lie but it was the president exacting revenge and punishing those who told the truth. when chris krebs said publicly the 2020 election was the safest in memory, i am paraphrasing his words there, but it was something along those lines, he got fired for it. he was ousted from the government f

, and provides the benefits that artificial intelligence can provide. last year, we passed the ai government act into law, and what that does is let the government beef up its artificial intelligence capabilities. that is what we use in helping make efficiencies in the way the government provides its services. on the other hand, we want to make sure it does not create biases that hurt significant sectors of the population. cat: who are some of the experts you have been bringing in for these briefings? rep. mcnerney: i'm not the greatest with names, cat, but we brought in some folks from stanford. they call it the stanford hai. human centered artificial intelligence. i think that is a great group. we had a meeting with them a few weeks ago. very strong presentation. i have been involved in the defense artificial intelligence committee. that is a very knowledgeable and important aspect of artificial intelligence. i have spoken with artificial intelligence experts, legislative experts across the world, especially from the united kingdom, from she lay -- fr

it is a human intelligence threat. able to x filtrate this potential degree of sensitive data think we would unambiguously view that as a failure of counterintelligence , and operational failure per that's not expecting perfection. we recognize that in the cyber context offenses cheaper the defense. the threat is persistent. and there will be breaches of networks pretty find it troubling we cannot simply establish at this hearing that operationally, this kind of breach is a counterintelligence failure. >> senator, intelligence and intelligence analysis in the prevention of threats requires thee integration of information from i a variety of sources derive not only domestically, but from our foreign intelligence collection as well. which members of the intelligence community other than the fbi conduct but as you are likely aware, our insight into adversary threat activity especially among our most sophisticated cyber adversaries and foreign intelligence services is fragmentary. and the fbi in order to pursue collection

that intelligence and characterized the potential for violence when it shared that intelligence with law enforcement. second, although last week's witnesses disagreed about when the capitol police requested national guard assistance, all agree that once requested it took far too long for the national guard to arrive. we'll dig further into this today. based on the defense department's public timeline, once requested it took the national guard over three hours to arrive at the capitol. now, remember, we're all watching this on cnn and fox and msnbc and it's a riot. and, yet, it took more than three hours. the request came in from the capitol hill police chief at 1:49 p.m. we're told and the capitol hill deployment did not arrive until after 5:00 p.m.p . we'll hear different timelines but some are closer to 5::00 p.m. some closer to 5:30. it's unclear when they authorized them to deploy. secretary mccarthy mobilize at 3:04 p.m. but according to the timeline the national guard provided to the committees, and a briefing from major general walker and commander general of the d.c. national

and provides the benefits that artificial intelligence can provide. for example, last year we passed the antigovernment act into law and what that does is let our government be bob beef up its own intelligence capabilities because those abused in helping make deficiencies in the way the government provides its services. on the other hand we want to make sure it doesn't create bias that hurts a significant sectors of the population. >> who are some of the experts that you bring in for the briefing? >> guest: i'm not the greatest with names but we had some folks from the staff who call it the stanford human age ai, human centered artificial intelligence and i think that's a great group and we had a meeting of the caucus with them a few weeks ago and very strong presentation and i've been involved with the defense, artificial intelligence committee and i think that's a very knowledgeable and important aspect of artificial intelligence and i've spoken with artificial intelligence experts across allegedly of experts across the world from the united kingdom

conflict take on various chopping with artificial intelligence will summon the demon. the robot must protect its own existence as. humanity has never seen such strange natural phenomena before coming to this appearing in the peninsula. one after another. one never about to break up again you've had your she mistook you for you know whom does love with those who don't he warned me of. this one appeared in 2020. how often and where will new creases appear as i described how dangerous own they are human the slum on my end is different than 102020. russian scientists came quite close to working out what's going on. they built a full scale of the black hole. welcome to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter we're discussing russia gate. ok let's go back to john in new york and i said in the 1st part of the program that trump is a killer i meant of obviously that you know biden said that putin was a killer just want to make sure our audience knows that john i mean you know what we had we had joseph. representing the e.u. foreign policy portfolio he was in mosco

political force to be reckoned with it is also apparently a threat to democracy germany's domestic intelligence agency has placed the a.f.d. under official observation the secret police making no secret about the danger or the dilemma how do you police a party that is popular with the people in berlin this is the day. hitler and the nazis and just the peace of 3rd pulled but now successful 1000 year history as experience from all of history we know is that in a democracy. and a means of the democracy now can be voted into office. if you're not defamed as a right wing extremist you are doing something wrong with. the authorities and we don't want this of violence this is a way for you to see a good city and i see the point of no return because the moderates are getting fewer and fewer but i don't see any way of saving it. and i guess the signal is that this team of democracy is up to defend itself against the enemies. also coming up she made headlines when she donated $1000000.00 for corona virus vaccine research well that was money well spent now dolly parton is getting a dose of her own medici

like state on various jobs and with artificial intelligence. something to. obama's protect its own existence and. welcome back across like we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing russia gate. ok let's go back to john in new york and i said in the 1st part of the program that trump is a killer i meant of obviously that you know biden said that putin was a killer just want to make sure our audience knows that john i mean you know when we had we had joseph the. representing the e.u. foreign policy portfolio he was in moscow a few weeks ago completely completely humiliated him self by lecturing russians in russia itself and then we had the fiasco in anchorage i mean what in the world does the biden ministration expect russia to do i mean openly allow it to meddle in its domestic politics like it did in the 1990 s. on this side of the pond this is what people are trying to figure out i mean what do you what do you expect us to do surrender our sovereignty. and do our own legal system i mean it's a that's what's so bizarre on t

there was intelligence, it was not an intelligence failure.uational report out of the fbi, a field office not 3 hours from washington, d.c. that said the day before 24 hours before, that -- that domestic extremists were intent on going to the capitol, use the phrase creating war, targeting members of congress and maps of the tunnel system of the capitol and what you heard the fbi director testify this week accurately was that he wasn't made aware of it for some reason and, of course, i was not made aware of it either. and his answer is why he didn't know why the fbi didn't elevate that to him or why law enforcement didn't act on it isn't a good answer and frankly, you know, what happened on january 6th was preventible and it was a failure of leadership in our law enforcement community and that's really what people should be focused on when we talk about capitol riots. maria: this is such an important point because once again we find the fbi in the middle of it, the broken link at the fbi. the fbi knew about it and did not pass on the informati

the intelligence agency has more instruments to. to collect information that might be relevant to see if this isn't party that is strongly fighting against our constitution the timing of this announcement is raising some eyebrows gemini's going to the polls in september does that not feed into conspiracy theories i think it does not convince me because turning that argument around keeping it secret that you have relevant arguments for the step now and keeping that secretly before an election letting the voters not know what this important institution this intelligence service knows that could be misleading voters too so i guess it's just the regular way things go that that right now this information comes up now that. the intelligence agency has the information to make that decision. has the possibility to go in front of chords and fight against this decision and then judges will look at the legal side and decide that's the way it goes in a democracy with the rule of law and i guess the signal is that. democracy is up to defend itse

it has building blocks of intelligence to direct that intelligence and insight thank you for this discussionand i yield back. >> thank you thank you to our witnesses once again for your testimony here today it's clear we're doing with a major threat that continues to grow and it's also clear we are not there yet and we have a long way to go. this will be a continuing conversation to hold hearings in this committee meeting directly and all the respective agencies congress can support your efforts with the federal government and across the economy i look forward speaking forward to your engagement it is a necessary. we are confident we can do with it will take a lot of effort bipartisan way to achieve that end. so with that the hearing record will remain open for 15 days until april 2nd for questions for the record this hearing is adjourned. [inaudible conversations] >> welcome to the special foreign affairs live we have thousands of subscribers to the greatest magazine in the world devoted to all things international and foreign policy obviously foreign affairs and its 99th year also members

on january sex, i intelligence onjanuary sex, i think there are intelligence on january sex, i thinkt have now been learned, that we have now been learned, that we have got to have constant intelligence on domestic terrorists, we have to track their possible efforts to again repeat what happened on january sex, and i repeat what happened onjanuary sex, and i think repeat what happened on january sex, and i think that's what you are seeing now, an abundance of caution to make sure that we are properly prepared to react, if in fact, any group attempts any kind of armed attack again on the united states capital. even if a re eat united states capital. even if a repeat of— united states capital. even if a repeat ofjanuary _ united states capital. even if a repeat ofjanuary sex - united states capital. even if a repeat ofjanuary sex is - a repeat of january sex is deterred, we know, or at least it is strongly suggested in the polls that there are millions of people who think that mr trump should be president, that the election was unfair, was only worn by widespread fraud. do you have any

he wasn't clear on what happened to the intelligence. he wasn't clear on why people didn't connect the dots, but he was clear that of the people they have looked into and the people they know about, that did the insurrection, that it wasn't the sort of fake trump people. that they were -- that he knows some of them were white supremacists. he said he puts them in different buckets and the insurrectionists were the insurrectionists. they are who we think they are, and nobody else. and so there were some republicans up there who were trying to kind of change the subject, talking about what happened in portland, maybe it was antifa, maybe it was the same group. and wray was crystal clear about that. he said we have not seen any evidence of anarchist, violent extremists or people subscribing to antifa in connection to the 6th, period. >> lindsey graham was asking questions about whether foreign intelligence operatives -- >> that's right. >> -- may have been involved in this and wray made it clear there's no evidence of that. john, how far do

or intelligence sharing? because it's the fbi's job to follow that chatter, whether or not you want to call that chatter intelligence or not it's not the capitol police's job to do it and they weren't told. >> you're absolutely right and you're referring in particular to an email -- an intelligence report from the fbi's norfolk field office that the sent to the capitol police and the d.c. police the night before the insurrection after business hours and the chief of capitol police said it never got to him. the fbi said that wasn't finished intelligence, it wasn't actionable but it was derived from a message board where people were promising violence at the capitol and the d.c. police chief made the point, look, my phone is on 24/7. you know, you might have called me just to let us know whether that would have changed the posture that day, the inadequate security preparations remains to be seen, stephanie. but in that case the fbi didn't fully share that intelligence, didn't make sure that the key people had i