committee and you know how frightening would it be if the intelligence and security committee was overseen by a former conservative defense minister who was also a consultant to a company that was involved in military aerospace in missile systems in satellites and electronic warfare well i'm afraid that's the case of malcolm rifkind is a can is working with this company a consulting that does all this kind of work with the military so i think the obvious problem here is nothing to do with the system of oversight it's the people that need to be removed a former tory for example so frances richards who is a former director of g c h q he said it was a bad idea for a former tory defense secretary to be running this organization and i would say doubly if these are also working with the defense industry this is a crazy concept we've also had brown former labor m.p. and defense minister saying suggesting anyway that the laws that were attempting to pass earlier this year and end of last year the snoops so-called snoopers charter all that was doing was it was an attempt to l

what we have is something called the intelligence and security committee in parliament which is supposed to oversee the work of the intelligence agencies in the u.k. it was a pretty place almost twenty years ago but they've had very limited powers they could only look at policy finance and administration this year that is changed this year they're now allowed to look at the operational techniques and so tension crimes of the spies they can critique and come and give evidence under oath so that is a step forward however the person who is the chair of the i.s.c. so malcolm rifkind has already said. in defense of the revelations from it with snowden that all the intelligence agencies within you pay are abiding by the laws and these laws are over twenty years old and they are relevant to this internet connected age there's been so much media reporting on this whole big story with everything over this last week and of course u.k. prime minister cameron signed that e.u. statement against oh say spy we're. going by what we're reporting tonight kind of hypocritical coming from here because i'm n

and being on the -- the only member of congress who's on the intelligence committee and the homeland security committee. so i see the threats from inside out and outside in. i can tell you at any given time the threats are against us. libya and in somalia, those are important. it raises issues, though, in libya we capture the person captured from the bombing. not taking any action against those carrying out the attacks in benghazi. we know where they are in libya. brought back to the united states. interrogated for a long time on a ship that would be reported back to the united states for the southern district of new york. i strongly believe those people should be tried in guantanamo. i don't believe they're entitled to american due process. these are not ordinary criminals and should not be tried in the ordinary criminal system. and i remember being with president bush, my district, we lost 150 people. maybe some people moved out. some people had relative there is. 150 people on september 11. it's very real for those who live in new york. no one is immune from this. it's an issue that's too

leadership on the committee on homeland security where he chaired that committee in 2006 and then again in 2011, 2012. today he is the chairman of the subcommittee on terrorism and intelligence. he is been a leader in the ongoing effort to have homeland security funding based on threat analysis. the congressman has also led the fight to continue funding the secured cities program to protect new york and many other metropolitan areas from attack. the congressman also serves in the house services committee. he has reauthorized tria, which is the terrorism risk insurance act, which is very important to all of new england and to the country. it is a bill of reauthorization. he has been a leader in urging his colleagues to support this legislation. one of the things that i respect most about our guest speaker today is his independent spirit and his willingness to break party lines to do what he believes is best for his district and for our country. last fall as his district and so many other communities on the east coast struggle to recover from the devastation caused in the superstorm sandy, he broke ranks with the gop to fight for the federal disaster relief funding. the congre

and trying to come to a conclusion. congressman king is a member of the intelligence committee and the homeland security committee.e not doing it for the fun of it. it is together viable information that helps us and the europeans. the reuters article goes on to say that he says thousands of lives have been saved as a result of the nsa. you can listen to all of the sunday morning talk shows on c- span radio as well as later tonight after midnight or you can stream those on your broadcast live at c-spanradio. org. had congressman fred upton. you talk about overseeing the health care law's implementation . we'll have the interview again later today at 6 p.m. eastern time. >> as each duration goes on -- as each generation goes on, we have less and less god. end, i want to create better place for all of us to live. teenage, upper white boys were quite shaking. theanted to explore baseline and political lines in the country at what is happening for those who are avatars for traditional leaders in america. a lot of people come to any film about leaders and expect to see whatticultural tapestry of america looks like, but

and appoint an advocate to the courts protecting rights. the director of national intelligence, james clapper, and national security director keith alexander told the committee the content of phone calls was secret in a lock box, unless there is a link to terrorism. and that, they say, is rare. >> there would only be looked at if we had reasonable and artic u la ble suspicious that we had connection to a foreign, al qaeda-related group, and look into the box. in 2012 we had 2088 such selectors, that we could look into that. that's it. of the billions of records, only 288. >> at the committee hearing there was relatively little discussion about allegations that the u.s. spied on america's allies. at the white house it was still a hot topic. protecty jay carney says president obama assured angela merkel there is not and will not be spying on her. this was the reaction when jay carney was asked about leaders of france and japan. >> i don't have anything more specific about specific alleged operation, or conversations that the president may or may not have had with foreign leaders. >> senator dianne fienstein the chair of the committee says it's not proper for a

are protected, and we need to find a balance between the relationship for security-- >> once again these are the european leaders that have been leading with the senate intelligence committeend house intelligence chair mike rogers standing in the background. they're concerned about the allegations that the united states has been eavesdropping in on the conversations of millions of american citizens. should mike rogers comes to the microphone. let's listen to what they have to say. >> the set up between the european union and the united states. >> we think at the policy level is where we're going to find areas where we agree and can move forward. this is not just about intelligence service fixing a problem with another intelligence service. we're working from two different angles. one is to rewrite the perceptions that may be wrong in this particular--in some of these cases, and what the concern, legitimate concerns are from the e.u. parliamentarians about the information collection and how it all works. it's important to understand that we're going to have to have a policy discussion that is bigger than any individual intelligence agency in europe or the united states. we

issues but i believe in britain we have a good way of having intelligence and security services, having them overseen by parliamentary committee, having their work examined by intelligence commissioners and insure they act under proper legal basis. i take those responsibilities very, very seriously but i believe we have a good system in this country and we can be proud of people that work in it and proud of the people that oversee it. >> david anderson. >> mr. speaker, we mentioned the energy companies have been outsourced to china, french, lights may go out, pensions will freeze this year and we have -- big six. does the prime minister have any regrets -- by former tory movement and defamation of the -- in the world? >> what i would say, to the honorable gentleman in terms of energy security that he back ad government that in 13 years never built a single nuclear power station. oh they talked about it, boy, did they talk about, but they never actually got it done. in terms of chinese and french investment, i think we should welcome foreign investment into our country, building these important utilities so we can use our fire

intelligence and has been for decades, and that this is information was clearly understood by the white house, by the national security council staff, and also by people who sit on the congressional intelligence committees, which raises questions about the statements by senator feinstein, who leads the senate intelligence committee, she seemed to be unaware or was not fully briefed on the scope of these surveillance programs. >> what about the talk of possible changes in policy? >> well, probably a half dozen proposals now on the table. if i was going to break them down very simply, they sort of fall into two baskets. one really advocates taking this collection of phone records and rather than having the u.s. government hold all of this so-called met data, that would be held by the phone companies instead, and we government has a queriry they have to ask the phone companies for information about a specific individual or specific series of numbers. one democrat supporting this is adam shep. >> it should be sufficient for all our national security purposes to go to the telephone companies, when we have reason to believe the number is connected with a plot, and find out who those numbers have been in conta

and the national security agency has come out and said we briefed everyone and we briefed the intelligence committeelly on the programs and dianne feinstein didn't know what was going on after being briefed on it. >> reporter: the president says there will be a review do you think he is sincere about making changes or will it be one of those things that gets pushed into the long grass? >> i guess you would have to address what the fundamental purpose of an intelligence organization is. and that is to gather information to the benefit of the country that is gathering it. and some of the things that we are hearing tossed about as to how it's wrong to collect information on your allies or on political leaders really is kind of silly if you think about it, don't collect information on allies. if you can recall japan was an ally of the united states in the first world war and attacked the united states in 1941. so is that to suggest it was wrong for the united states to collect information on the japanese military build up prior to the attack? of course not. so we are seeing a lot of people now that are

intelligence operations. and -- than falling under that umbrella may the phone calls of america i will and others. >> chief national security correspondent jim sciutto. thanks. congressman adam schiff of california sits on the house intelligence committee and stepped out of today's meeting to speak to us live from capitol hill. thanks for joining us. quickly, james clapper was also asked if our allies are guilty of the same sort of thing. here is what he said. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time, any type of espionage activity against the united states of america, intelligence services, leaders or otherwise? >> absolutely. >> do we know of any cases of this actually happening in recent years? >> well, i don't know that i can talk openly in terms of what we know about our foreign intelligence agencies and how they operate and target people in the united states? but i think it would be naive to presume that they are not very active in trying to collect on us even though we are allies. it does happen. at the same time, i have a concern about this potential wiretapping of our leaders, of our allied leaders, and the garage it is doing to our reputation and damage that it may do to the operation we immediate -- co

intelligence collection programs. feinstein released a statement saying the national security agency didn't keep her committee properly informed of certain surveillance activities. the committee is responsible for overseeing the work and budget of the intelligence community. she says that oversight needs to be strengthened and increased. feinstein went on to say it's a big problem that president barack obama was not aware agents were monitoring german chancellor angela merkel's communications since 2002. she said she's opposed on gathering intelligence on leaders of u.s. allies. they face questions after questions regarding the nsa's work. they say the u.s. does not and will not monitor merkel's communications, and they say they're conducting a review of their intelligence gathering methods. >> we're acknowledging the tension this has caused. we understand this has caused concern in countries that are -- that represent some of our closest relationships internationally. and we're working to allay those concerns and to discuss these issues. >> carney said last summer president obama ordered a comprehensive review of how the u.s. gathers intelligence. he said the investigation should be completed by the end of the year.

and italy. the national security agency is denying that president obama was told in 2010 of spying on germ man chancellor. the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee calls the report 100% wrong and said the leaked information is being misinterpreted. all the spying comes from documents taken from edward snowden. >>> the healthcare reform website takes another hit this weekend. the glitch sunday is linked to a data services hub that went down. the network failure impacted other government websites as well. the white house is blaming an outside contractor for the glitch, held secretary was expected to testify this week about the problems plaguing the online healthcare site. >> the federal government is granting $19 million in aide to maryland communities hit hard by superstorm sandy. one year ago tomorrow, the storm originally a hurricane, slammed into the east coast. property damage here was mainly centered on the lower eastern shore. the money can be used for damaged housing and infrastructure as well as economic developments. >>> and what a difference a year can make. we have a bright blue sky with no storm. take a live look outside right now and

and i first want to ask you to put on your hat as a member of the senate intelligence committee ask you about these new reports about n.s.a., national securityncy's surveillance in asia, including using the u.s. and the embassies of the united states and allies and also this information about n.s.a. tapping into communication links of google and yahoo! is there something you can say to help us understand what's going on? what do you make of it? >> we had a briefing in the intelligence committee today and obviously it's a classified briefing, that's one of the frustrations of being on the intelligence committee is you can't freely share information. but as you know, general alexander, the head of the national security agency, has said that the reports about the n.s.a. tapping into google servers is not an accurate report. clearly, however, we need to have reforms of the system. we need to have more transparency. and we need to ensure that the privacy and civil liberties of americans are being safeguarded. and just today we approved a major reform bill that would l do just that. i'm very pleased that it includes an amendment that i authored wi

surveillance programs at home and abroad continued this afternoon at a house intelligence committee hearing. but the directors of national intelligence and the national security agency pushed back. >> one of the first things i learned in intel school in 1963 is that this is the fundamental giveen in the intelligence. >> woodruff: that fundamental according to director of national intelligence james clapper, is learning the intentions of foreign leaders, even if it means spying on allies. what's more, he told today's house hearing it's a two-way street. >> do you believe that the allies have conducted or at any time any type of espionage activity against the united states of america, our intelligence services, our leaders or otherwise? >> absolutely. >> there have been disclosures in recent days that the national security agency eavesdroped on german chancellor angela merkel. the n.s.a.'s director, army general keith al sander the, defended the general practice of surveillance in the u.s. and abroad to prevent terrorist attacks. >> there has not been a mass casualty here in the u.s. since 2001. that's not by luck! they didn't stop hating us. they didn't say th

surprise to the president and his national security staff that the intelligence community is spying on foreign leaders. >> is this something new and different that the intelligence committee might try to target foreign leaders to determine the best policy for the u.s. of america. >> it is one of the first things i learned in intel school in 1963, this is the fundamental given, in intel business. lou: joining us now, fox news strategy i think analyst lieutenant colonel ralph peters, thank you for joining us, it is shocking really to hear the president and his administration deny they knew about this. he is the man in charge. >> he is, and look, lou, let me set it straight at beginning. there is zero possibility, zero, that the president did not know about the nsa program, to target foreign leaders, friendly and not so friendly, he would have been briefed in the nsa's capabilities in the first days of his first administration, over the years, he would have seen intelligence that couome ft leaders' phone calls and other communications. so, the white house or president himself to pretend he knew nothing, well this does fit the obama pattern, but that is a presidential lie. lo

general keith alexander told the house committee, house intelligence committee what the security agency does is legal and helps defend the nation. alexander said he would rather take a public beating than stop a program that presents a terrorist attack. >>> it has been five months since the world first came to know edwards snowden and a lot has changed since then, especially for the people who helped leak the information. jonathan betz has a look at that story. >> it's a global story that began in the summer with edward snowden. he is now in asylum in russia but the scandal keeps unfolding because he reported handed over almost all of his secrets to two journalists, greenwald who is based in brazil. he keeps breaking stories printed in papers all over the world, usually until countries where they will make the biggest splash. greenwald works as a columnist for the guardian. on thursday, he is leaving that british paper to help start a new journalistic venture funded by the founder of ebay. that site will likely continue revealing nsa stories. his reporting partner will join him there. she was actually th

intelligence before the senate select committee on intelligence on march 12, 2013. and i'm quoting him. we assess iran is developing nuclear capabilities to enhance its security to teach and regional influence, and give it the ability to develop nuclear weapons, should a decision be made to do so. we do not know if iran will eventually decide to build nuclear weapons. the collective wisdom of our national intelligence community, and i'm not saying that's gospel, but it's important, we don't know if they are developing nuclear weapons. now i'm not a nuclear speciali specialist. you know, i tried to talk to people and we do things that are authoritative, and those of you who want to follow this and no what we all know, you should read the quarterly reports by the international atomic energy agency board of governors. you can get them online. the reports on the iranian program. and there are many questions about the program that iran has been asked to address in which they have not addressed to this point. this is at the core of the negotiations. the report, however, does not say that iran has a nuclear weapons capability, but they raise many questions about the

that killed 12 people, the homeland's security committee has sharp criticism for department of homeless security. it is a fundamental giving and it all intelligence no matter what you are talking about that the the military leaders as well. >> reporter: anchoring america's closest friend for security gains. is it worth the risk to have that type of blow backed? >> reporter: millions of called from france and spain say that they are completely false. to be perfectly clear this is not information that we selected on your pants and since it represents an affirmation that we and our nato allies have received and collected in support of military operations. >> reporter: the house homeland's security committee now has sharp criticism of homeland's security court. coming after the discovery that the department doesn't know what security measures are in place to protect workers and guest at the navy yard. the department is crawling not aware of what security is intact for certain departments. to not have a handle on what's in place to secure their own employees. >> reporter: at the time of the shooting in rent a lexus, a former navy reservist, was workin

and by the way, there is no security at all. most people know their stuff gets traded around, but when rogers was head of of the intelligence committeetion at all. and this is on top of everything else. people's information is going to be everywhere. >> let's hear from mike rogers. then i want to hear from the gentlemen at the table. >> it was very clear to me in the hearing they do not have an over-arching cyber security plan to prevent the loss of private information. i'm even more concerned today than i was even last week. >> harris, with the nsa scandal showing that no personal information, no calls, no e-mails are secure, the irs scandal. we have a crisis of privacy and security. so what congressman rogers is saying and what you're highlighting is a huge emerging issue in america. >> john? >> well, that is a huge issue. and i think the president has been beaten down over these things. the nsa thing first. then the irs thing. i'm upset. where are informations of these things? what happened to the investigation of the irs? >> is that disappeared. >> disappeared. >> they have walked away -- >> why? >> with the public overwhelmingly

and director alexander. under the national security act the intelligence community is required to keep the intelligence committees informed of significant intelligence activity. without confirming or denying the most recent press reports of eavesdropping of the leaders of the allied countries, would you consider a wiretap on the leader of the allied country to be a significant activity required to be reported to the intelligence committee? >> it's here in the context of what we try to keep the congress informed with the totalitarian -- totality and what we submit with our justification books coming by and large complied with the spirit and the intent of some law. not to say we could not do more but i put more on written notification since i has been in the job in the statistics would bear that out. the fact we don't necessarily report each and every selector or dependent on the general rubric of leadership intentions that is something we could discuss with the notification that we have lived up to the requirement. >> i am not perfectly sure what to make of that answer i think if you tap the full line of a foreign

intelligent chiefs the shutdown threatening national security. some comments from the head, the director of national intelligence and the director of the national security agency in their testimony today before the senate intelligence committee. and we will have that hearing for you later on our program schedule as well. thanks for your calls and more of them tomorrow during "washington journal" starting at 7:00 eastern tomorrow here on c-span and on c-span radio and coming up on "washington journal" tomorrow i'll look at the latest in the government shutdown. one of our guest is senator tom co-burn of oklahoma. we'll hear from the secretary of the cabinet for health and family services in kentucky and talk about her state's healthcare exchange. also tomorrow morning we'll here from the director of the national park service joining us by phone on the shutdowns in the national parks. also tomorrow kentucky governor talking about the healthcare act, his support of the healthcare act and the impact on the state and the preview of the debt ceiling debate. "washington journal" live tomorrow and every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern. up next on c-span we're going to take you to the comments right after the meeting at the white house with

he's a member of the homeland security committee and chairman of the subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence's great to have you on. >> thank you. >> just moments ago we had house speaker john boehner out there and he was asked if there needed to be a review of the nsa's programs. i want to play a small portion of how he responded. >> well, i don't think there's any question that there needs to be a review. there ought to be a review and it ought to be thorough. we've got obligations to the american people to keep them safe and we've got obligations to our allies around the world. but having said that, we've got to find the right balance here. and clearly we're imbalanced as we stand here. >> imbalanced as we stand here. sir, you've defended the nsa's phone surveillance program. you've also been quoted as saying that surveillance of our allies protects them and the u.s. but is it worth the risk of alienating our staunchest supporters overseas, and is this just a diplomatic nightmare in the making? >> obviously, you know, the disclosure does create problems. now for years whatever was going o

security of the united. all of the products of the intelligence community which we are consumers are available to the committee. sources andethod unlike any committee here in the congress are available to this committee. i would argue to make the case that somehow we are in the dark is mystifying to me. if that report is correct. i wouldn't confirm any specific by the intelligence committee. as the gentleman knows we have access to all sources and methods and there is lot of product to be revealed through the intelligence committee and the member of the committee. and -- any implication that through those reviews that this committee would not be informed to the status it in question is not correct. i would be interested to know. >> take you down to the committee and spend a couple of hours going through mounds of product that would allow to a member to be informed as a member wishes to be on sources and methods and all activities of the intelligence community under the national intelligence framework. >> i would say -- i think we need to be careful. >> i -- [inaudible conversations] so i would like to find out what we were

security agency says chiefs did not illegally tapped. they revealed rare details of america's intelligence gathering techniques. >> confident and almost defiant top spy chiefs made no apologies before the house intelligence committeethey defended the job the agencies do to keep america and her allies safe. >> there's not been a mass casualty in the u.s. since 2001. that's not by luck. they didn't stop hating us. they didn't say that they were going to just forgive this. they continued to try. >> the work of the national security agency is under fire because of revelations by former nsa analyst, edward snowden. documents he leaked showed phone calls of millions of ordinary citizens. testimony of keith alexander and others told the committee the content is secret in a lock box unless there is a link to terrorism. that, they say, is rare. >> it would only be looked at when we had reasonable and articulate suspicion that we had connection to a foreign al qaeda or related terrorist group, and look into that box. in 2002 we had 288 such selectors that we could go and look into that. that's it. of the billions of records, only 288. >> at the committee hearing there was relatively little discussion about allegations the u

and continues not to work well. >> elizabeth cohen, more on the situation room, as well. thank you. >>. >>> the chairman of the house intelligence committee is sounding the alarm about the security of healthcare.gov. that website. republican congressman mike roger told our candy crowley the site is vulnerable to cyber attacks and as a the contractors in charge of building the site may have to revamp it completely. >> they do not have an overarching solid cyber security plan to revent the loss of private information. i'm even more concerned today than was last week. i know that they've called in another private entity to try to help with the security of it. the problem is, they may have to redesign the entire system. the way the system is designed, it is not secure. >> not encouraging words from mike rogers. the obama administration says the site does not store or retain private information but rogers says there is active collection and storing of consumer information. another headache right there a lone republican says he will now join house democrated to pass comprehensive immigration reform this year. my sbchb with the california republican congressman jeff deny nam, that's ri

house intelligence committee hears from the head of the nsa, and the director of national intelligence, and the justice department. they will testify on what type of stlans the national security agency can and cannot do. the white house says president obama was not aware the nsa was spying on world leaders including german chancellor angela merkel. the leak came from documents stolen by edward snowden. >> yahoo!'s ceo is the owner of the oldest funeral home. marissa meyer is the new owner of the funeral home located on more than an acre on the corner of middlefield road and addison avenue about a block east of meyer's home. sourlss told the paper they think that meyer is going to use it for residential purposes. they will go out of business in two days on halloween. >> this morning the birthplace of the apple computer is officially part of history. the los altos historical commission voted unanimously to turn the childhood home of late co-founder steve jobs into an historical site. it means the home is now protected so a builder cannot come in and demolish it. the plan is to put up a plaque in front of the home where jobs and steve wozniak built the first 50 apple one compute

as we have is a lot of issues with security, especially considering the director -- the former director of nsa and cia michael hayden and the house intelligence committeeir mike rogers joked about putting him on the kill list. there's been a worldwide manhunt for mr. snowden, that is no secret. so i think people should really look at the question behind why he would be in any kind of hiding or in an undisclosed location, and why someone who tells the truth and blows the whistle on massive legality by the u.s. government, why they would have to go to another country to do so and then seek asylum from yet another country in order to gain protection. >> jesselyn radack, what did edward snowden tell you? and what did you tell him as you presented the award? >> as we presented the award, we each read from various other famous people in history, ,ncluding martin luther king who people also smeared as being traitors and turncoats and hurting the country. and then later in history, realized they were heroes. other people like ben franklin. we talked about how he was supported despite with the us government is saying about 60% of our country is in support of in

and a half hours technique. the members of the house select committee on intelligence complimented the work of the national security agency which as you know are under fire since the revelation by former nsa analyst edward snowden that revealed documents that showed that they had been listen together phone conversation or scooping up the phone numbers of conversation of american citizens. the director of national intelligence said that the information was gathered legally, and the content is only available to a handful of people. >> everything that we do on this program is audited 100%. on the business records. 100%. the da data is kept separate frm all the other data we have. it's important to understand that the leaker did not have access to this data period. >> so randall, are these hearings setting the stage for the usa freedom act, and if so what would that legislation mean? what would it entail? >> reporter: well, yes, indeed. the hearings are setting the stage for the freedom act. the freedom act would be an amendment of the patriot okay, and what it would not do is restrict the power of the nsa to gather in

about the national security agency and its surveillance programs and they are rabbit to get those answers. at this hour, the nsa chief set to testify before the house intelligence committee. randall pinkston joins us live, just yesterday, european delegates said that the trust that is between the nations has to be rebuild, their words and they say that steps must be taken so what are those steps to rebuild the trust? one of the major steps is to allow those officials to have communications with key intelligent officials to calm nerves and ease concerns about the reports that the u.s. has been spying on its top allies including the leaders of some of those nations like angela merkel for example. i can't show it to you because the camera position can't change, but awaiting the arrival of general alexandar who will be testifying about 1:30, about 30 minutes from now before the house select committee. there will be a proposed legislative change. the author of the patriot act, which clears the way for so much intelligence gathering in the wake of 9/11, back in 2001, is now proposing another piece of legislation, that would amend the patriot act, to redefine exactly the extent

leadership on the committee on homeland security where he chaired that committee in 2006 and then again in 2011, 2012. and today he's the chairman of the subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence. he's been a leader in the ongoing effort to have homeland security funding based on that threat analysis. congressman has led the fight to continue funding, to secure the city's program to protect new york and many other metropolitan areas from attack pchlt the congressman serves in the house financial services committee which is important to new england where he led efforts to authorize the terrorist risk assurance act which is very, very important to all of new england and to the country and it's a bill that would be up for the reauthorization and it's been a leader and the urge in his colleagues to support his legislation. and one of the things that i respect most about our guest speaker here is the independent spirit and the willingness to break party lines to do what he believes is best for his district and our country. last fall, as so many districts on the east coast struggled to recover from the devastation of superstorm sandy, he broke ranks to fight the federal disaster rel

security agency and the u.s. cybercommand who has testified before us in open and closed sessions of this committee and of course continuously in the intelligence community. general, go ahead is featuring leahy ranking member grassley to sing which members of the committee thank you for the opportunity to provide opening remarks. i'm privileged today to represent the dedicated professionals at the national security agency who employ the authorities provided by congress the federal courts and the executive branch to help protect the nation and protect our civil liberties and privacy. if we are to have an honest debate about how in sa sa conducts its business we need to step away from sensationalized headlines and focus on the facts. our mission is to defend the nation and to protect our civil liberties privacy. ben wittes from the brookings institute said about the media release and specifically about these fisa programs shameful as it is that these documents were leaked they actually should give the public great confidence in both nsa's internal oversight mechanisms and the executive branch and judicial oversight mechanisms outside the agency.

leadership on the committee on the homeland security where he chaired that committee in 2006 and then again in 2011, 2012. today he is the chairman of the subcommittee on terrorism and intelligence. he is been a leader in the ongoing effort to have homeland security funding based on threat analysis. the congressman has also led the fight to continue funding the secured cities program to protect new york and many other metropolitan areas from attack. the congressman also serves in the house services committee. has reauthorized tree which is the terrance risk insurance act which is very important to all of new england and to the country. it is a bill of reauthorization. he has been a leader in urging his colleagues to support this legislation. respecthe things that i most about our guest speaker today is his independent spirit and his willingness to break party lines to do what he believes is best for his district and for our country. as his district in so many other communities on the east coast struggle to recover from the devastation caused in the superstorm sandy, he broke ranks with the gop to fight for the federal disaster relief funding. the congressman recognized how impor

intelligence committee plays a key role in overseeing the secret activities of the nags si. in tuesday it -- national security agency. on tuesday it provided a platform for the director of national intelens andhe head of the nsa to answer critics. james clapper insisted that he was following orders on the bugging of leaders, to give the president the best information possible on his foreign counterparts. >> as long as i have been in the intelligence business, 50 years, leadership intentions, in whatever form it's expressed is kind of a basic tenant of what we are to collect and analyse. >> on recent allegations that the united states was collecting millions of phone records in france and spain, the head of the nsa offered this defense. >> this is not information we collected on european citizens. it represents information that we and our nato allies have collected in defense of our country, and in support of military operations. >> for the last several month, documents that the whistleblower edward snowden leaked showed a dragnet beyond france and spain. it's failed to become a major issue in washington. the bugging of angela merkel's phone received attention because the strategic implicatio

rogers, chairman of the house and intelligence committee, asked tough questions about whether or not information people provide to that website about their social securitybers, their income, whatever, is really secured. you want to subpoena information to show that they knew in advance the security, the cybersecurity, was not adequate? >> exactly. we need to know who knew, why they should still be on the job. you know, there's more complex information. do you realize that tax i.d. information is in there, voter information is in there? this is a very important link to a also of private information. although we've been given assurances it was safe, we were given assurances they could handle the volume. >> do you believe it's secure now? >> i don't want to overly find humor in this but while the secretary's speaking saying they hadn't had a shutdown, another network showing a current shutdown that is displayed. they're saying one thing but not demonstrating with the reliability of they're claiming november 30th they'll be ready. we want to make sures this doesn't happen again. the process of delivering expensive i.t., 600 million, shows that government do

intelligence committee is furloughed. are you confident that no national security issues are affected? >> i am not. the administration makes the decision on who is essential and nonessential personnel. cent percent of the intelligence community is not essential they made that decision. the house and president and all signed off on military. and yet the administration came back after it is passed, you know half of the civilians are nonessential. and the administration is moving it around and making it look for critical. if they are essential personnel they should be on the job. i am confused why they consider 70 percent nonessential. >> just so we understand that the director of national security and also, sorry, the director of the nsa and james clapper are trying to what, scare americans? >> i have no idea and i know they have authority. and i couldn't go in to the motives and they declared 70 percent of the people nonessential, i am surprised by that in our intelligence community. this is the kind of stuff in the early stages. we have more guards standing around in open air world war ii memorial that is open 1 or 2 hours a day. and we had more dwaurds than

security matters. and we appreciate her continued leadership on these issues as chairman of the senate intelligence committee. when it comes to statements that senator feinstein has made, i would refer you to her about them. what we've made clear is that we are undertaking a review of our activities around the world with a special emphasis on examining whether we have the appropriate posture when it comes to heads of state. examining how we coordinate with our closest allies and partners and examining what further guiding principles or constraints might be appropriate for our efforts. so the review encompasses a lot of activity, but there is an emphasis, a special emphasis on those areas. beyond that, it's on -- the review is ongoing, so i'm not going to discuss the details or the outcomes going back to julie's question until it's completed. finish but as i said, we've made some decisions, the president has made some decisions, and i would expect that we'll make more as this process continues. and then when it's over, we'll have more to say about the decisions we've made. >> so you're not ruling out the accu

director clapper spoke about the intelligence agencies and here's what he said before the judiciary committee. each day goes by, the impact and jeopardy to the safety and securityl increase. >> you're listening to senator durbin. before him senate majority leader harry reid talking about a conversation he had with house speaker boehner. he sent him a letter, said he had a conversation with him within the hour or so talking about the need for a conference and for some negotiations. and all those leaders are going to be meeting with the president in several hours, about 5:30 or so at the white house to talk about what are the next steps, what possibly could be done. i want to bring in congressman michael grimm. he's from new york. give us a sense what you think needs to happen in that meeting. what do you want speaker boehner to tell the president? >> well, i mean, there's no question what needs to happen. we need to get this government open and running again. there's just too many people hurting so much. you've got to understand, these federal employees that don't make a lot of money are the once impacted the most. i understand about monuments. i'm a veteran. be

and the abilities that they can return to improve upon. >> new concerns being raised about the security of obamacare's website-- about how much personal website's database. the republican head of the house intelligence committeeays the obamacare website could leave users at risk for identity theft and other cybercrimes. congressman mike rogers says the site is vulnerable to cyberattacks and may need a complete overhaul. >> "they do not have an overarching solid cyber- security plan to prevent the loss of private information. i'm even more concerned today than i was even last week. i know that they've called in another private entity to try to help with the security of it. the problem is they may have to redesign the entire system. the way the system is designed, it is not secure." >> health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius addressed concerns over cyber threats in a blog post published saturday. she says health-care-dot- gov "doesn't retain or store information" and she called the online marketplace a "model of efficiency and security." >> we will take a quick break. we have the latest on the winds as we take a live look outside at walnut the winds as we take a live look outside at walnut creek.

intelligence committee chairman. he was just incredulous they had launched a program knowing in advance there was no testing for the security system. >> let's listen to mike rogers and part where he's asking secretary sebelius about the security on the system. >> you allowed the system to go forward with no encryption on back-up systems. no inkrepencryption on certain boundary crossings. you accepted a risk on behalf of every user of this computer that put their personal financial information at risk because you did not even have the most basic end-to-end test on security of this system. amazon would never do this. proflowers would never do this. kayak would never do this. this is completely an unacceptable level of security. >> she said it's being tested realtime. >> it apparently can't be done while it's being tweaked and fixed and lines of code are be written. you have to do it in advance. all the other stuff you can write off as mistakes, bureaucr. this means in order to launch this october 1, in order to establish, as israelis would say, a fact on the ground so obama care becomes, say, ireversible, they launched dr e deliberately knowing they're exposing everyo

security division, oversees what we are doing. and works with us in the court, and the white house. we also this committee and the senate select committee on intelligence, and finally for thele froms that fall under fisa, we have the fisa court. and everything that we do in that respect goes up to the court. i have had to personally appear in front of that court. sometimes to address mistakes that we have been -- that we have made. and you know whenever you appear in front of a federal judge, that is -- and you have done something wrong, this is not a happy time. i found them to be completely professional. while they may not understand it, they have absolutely hammered us and tried to gettous get this right. let me interrupt real quick. there was an editorial that referred to a vague description, owhat was going on would you ever jews the word vague? >> absolutely not. i think at times they take ironically an adversarial relationship. they will argue this out with us. they will tell us what is wrong with the things as we put in draft, and the justice department actually does a great job with that. i wanted to end up with two others. the civil liberties

intelligence committee just beginning a hearing under way right now just starting it. james clapper the director of national intelligence and general keith alexander, the head of the national securitythe nsa, will be testifying answering questions, presumably about the nsa surveilance program including reports over the past few days that the u.s. has been spying on allied leaders, including monitoring the personal cell phone of the german chancellor angela merkel. we'll monitor what's going on, bring you the highlights. stand by for that. right now he's just opening up the hearing. meanwhile, president obama is being hammered on many fronts right now. how much did he know about the surveilance of friendly allies? why didn't he know about the problems that were going to plague the health care website? i want you to listen to part of the new article from cnn's chief political analyst gloria borger she just wrote and posted on cnn.com. i'll read you a line. the ultimate irony may be this. a president who extols the virtues of government has now been sucked into the big government vortex experiencing up close and personal as they say what it feels like to lose control to the bureaucrat

and children's act. this is important. nuclear weapons security and nonproliferation act. food and drug safety act. reserving our intelligence capability act. chairman mike rogers of the intelligence committees. the daunting facts about those that protect this country be on the job is essential. border safety and security act. chairman mccaul earlier called me. michael mccaul and said this has to be done. american indian and alaskan native health education and safety act. critical to people who were not only our colleagues but men and women who are needing to make sure that what we do in their regard is taking care of. national weather monitoring act. i didn't even know until today that there was a hurricane headed towards our country. impact aid for local schools act head start for low income children's act. i received three calls from dallas, texas today about this specific issue. i assured them it will go before the rules committee. national emergency and disaster recovery at. and finally the federal employee richard o. at this pay fairness act. i tend to be for these. i think they make good sense and i have had several conversations with chairman hal rogers about how we will effectively

intelligence committee mike rodgers. members of the delegation spoke after their meeting about global eaves dropping concerns. german chancellor angela america and other world leaders are upset about allegations of national security spying on them. early early i spoke with the former u.s. ambassador to nato about whether the reaction is for their people or if it is personal. >> i don't think we should discount the personal feeling of violation that someone like chancellor merkel has. when she realizes it's her very own cell phone that she has in her hand that's being listened to. i can see that there is a personnelment to this and a genuine reaction, but from the establishments in european governments a lot of this is for public con zukauskus. the publics are upset so the government needs to show that they are upset. and it's also convenient for the government to his deflect everything towards blaming the united states rather than having anyone scrutinize what they do. >> let's zero in on chancellor merkel an al annal an ali. how much is going to need to be done for her to be satisfied? what has to happen? what left of the transparency -- does she want to know what do you have? toll at that time? >> i wouldn't sa

house intelligent committee mike rogers said with all of the personal information, like your associate security number, tax information andatabase -- >> it's a magnet for hackers. what the cybersecurity? >> built with the highest security standards. >> he says to all of those frustrated by the website and about to give up, keep on going back, call the help center and understand there's a six-month period to sign up. >> our thanks to brian todd for that. still to come, some of the biggest names in the republican party speaking at a conservative summit. right now senator marco rubio at the microphone. we'll listen in next. 7 [ male announcer ] this is pam. her busy saturday begins with back pain, when... hey pam, you should take advil. why? you can take four advil for all day relief. so i should give up my two aleve for more pills with advil? you're joking right? for my back pain, i want my aleve. you're joking right? ido more with less with buless energy. hp is helping ups do just that. soon, the world's most intelligent servers, designed by hp, will give ups over twice the performance, using forty percent less energy. mul