and it certainly is for us at the international committee of the red cross. thank you very much. actually a display from the international committee of the red cross in key. thank you. thank you for having a look. now some of the other stories making headlines around the world today in your current president for the zalinski has rejected the call from pope francis for peace talks with russia. the pope said ukraine should have the courage to raise the white flag and negotiate zalinski says the pope should not try to mediate from thousands of kilometers away the at least 26 people have been killed in slash flooding and land slides in indonesia. 11 others are still missing on the island of some of trump. while the flood waters are receiving, rescue efforts are being handed by power outages and damaged roads. right to good of hollywood hit the red carpet for the biggest night of the year in show base the oscars, the nuclear blockbuster, oppenheimer, dominated the ceremony. christopher nolan's epic scope 7 awards, including best will best director and best act period trauma and maria,

disability group or... for our part, we immediately enter into interaction with the international committee of the red crossith the missing persons search agency of the international committee we exchange lists between the red cross and the ukrainian ombutzman, i must say that this is how a number of our military personnel were identified, thank god. the volume of ombudsmen in the new russian regions, i believe, is now very difficult period, what are the most significant, what are the problems you have to face and how to solve them? these are issues of lost documents, issues of assigning pensions, issues of education, admission to higher educational institutions, provision of medical care, we turn to each other almost on a daily basis. and hold a reception for citizens and people, explain to people where to go with this or that issue, how to resolve the issue of restoration or compensation for damaged property , cars, apartments, and so on, what is happening now from the point of view of appeals, citizens are more interested in general, and not in relation to a special military operation, but in general in

and it certainly is for us at the international committee of the red cross. thank you very much. joshua display from the international committee of the red cross in key. thank you. thank you for having me. as have a look now at some of the other stories making headlines says, your current president for the landscape has rejected a call from po process. for peace talks with russia, the head of the catholic church, you said you crane should have the courage to raise the wind flock and negotiate. so then he says the pope should not try to media from thousands of kilometres away when he calls in germany has sentenced an american man to life in prison for murdering a us tourist. last june, he attacked 2 women and pushed them into a gorge. yet not most fond stein castle and bavaria killing one police in switzerland to have found the bodies of 5 missing cross country skews. they was cold and install mazda assessing all from the result result of some ops over the weekend. 6 person is still missing. united nations secretary general on sonya is latavia. shes urgent isra

and it certainly is for us as the international committee of the red cross. thank you very much. joshua display from the international committee of the red cross in t. thank you. thank you for having the time now to have a look at some of the other stories making headlines. at least 26 people have been killed and slash flooding and blind spots and indonesia 11. now those are still missing on the audit of sumatra of flood waters receiving risk assets being handled by positives and damaged roads. the 3 libyan leaders have agreed to form a new government to oversee delayed elections that libya was meant to hold the vote in 2020 well enough to more than a decade of conflicts. but it was postponed off the disagreements over candidates and the election rooms. the king of saudi arabia has used his ramadan message to highlight the suffering and gaza king solomon condemned. well, he called brutal crimes efforts to secure a ceasefire before the start of the muslim holy month of sold and agencies say the international operation to send a motion to terry and supplies is n

the month of ramadan. the international committee of the red cross emphasized on sending as much humanitarian aid as possiblethe people of gaza. hasha mehna, the spokesperson of the international committee of the red cross in gaza, pointed to the decision of some countries to send aid by air to the gaza strip , and emphasized that sending aid by air is not enough. and it does not address the basic needs of the palestinians. referring to the death of a number of people in gaza while receiving aid by air, hesham mehna added that security in the aid delivery process is one of the most important issues and sending aid by land is the best option for providing aid to the residents of gaza. welcoming the holy month of ramadan in the gaza strip last night, north of this barricade , was the scene of the madiya sourai of the refugees for the beloved prophet of islam on the occasion of the arrival of the holy month of ramadan. in the city of rafah, located in the south of the gaza strip, despite the attacks and siege, as well as the severe lack of food , people went to welcome the holy month of ramadan. rafah that it h

lugansk people's... the diplomats from the qatari embassy are helping us, and the international committee of the red crossrvice and the vatican are involved, for example, if we are talking about the qatari embassy, ​​they have good financial support, that is, they also provide ambulances, we had cases when we transported children with multiple, for example, developmental disabilities and ordinary vehicles, for example, it was impossible to transfer them, the ambulance took them straight to ukraine to... tell me, what changes are happening in the work with children in new russian regions, which can be quickly resolved, which may require some additional decisions to be made, here, if initially the problem arose in humanitarian assistance, targeted humanitarian assistance with children’s families, now it has moved to such a level systemic solutions, all our children underwent a full medical examination, and a large number of chronic diseases were identified that require intervention. together with the ministry of defense, so that children quickly fly here to federal centers, this also concerns building the w

while we are in a state of war, all the laws have changed, despite its ugliness, the occupation ultimately adheres to the law of the international committee of the red cross, or some international and human rights bodies in order to appear democratic and civilized, but all the masks have fallen amid the ongoing war. there is no democracy, there are no human rights, no humanity in the israeli regime. dealings, so we see it innovating new torture techniques for the sake of deterrents, the regime used to insults to obtain forced confession, but now and emit the war, the regime aims at pressing the resistance, the regime uses the scenes of the arrest of women and children in order to press the resistance to submit to its demands, then they want to obtain what they fail to obtain through weapons and explosives and through murders and physical assaults by pressuring the fighters when they witnessed the mistreatment of their women, children and people, that is means of pressure and a dirty war. any war has its own means such as means of destruction, such as bombs and weapons of mass destruction, but the other means is to torture the civilians who are not involve

and of course we wish you a colleagues or well, the very best menu safety as they do the watts out with his i'm on a international committee of the red cross communications officer. thanks so much. there's some job ident will take a to the stage tonight in congress to deliver his state of the union address. it is a tom so the president to highlight his successes and outline his future plans, thoughts as the election looms at the end of yet. but it seems that that will be to empty seats, and the chain bought off to invites what tons of down by ukraine's boss, lady plus the wife of the late russian opposition activist, unexplainable me, the state of the union is quite an important event. this is a test for presidential biden, to showcase his achievements throughout the year. and of course, the main focus is going to be ukraine. so it's really no surprise. the unit as it is scale was a guest of honor invited as a guest upon her. she is the wife of the ukrainian president lightroom, as lensky and ukraine stays as a top agenda issue for the united states. and on top of that, the democrats have yet to push for the a bill that they've been trying

storm of indignation, but you know, colleagues from switzerland forgot a little that in the movement itself has three unities: the international federation of the red cross, the international committeethe red cross , the national society, there are 192 of them, and we are colleagues, we are not vassals, when there was a call for the secretary general to immediately resign from his post, and then a week later they decided to start an investigation, yes i i also asked a question, guys, in general, in normal civilized countries it’s a little different, but at least everywhere we say that there is a presumption that it’s not wine. maybe you 'll figure it out first, you'll figure out the situation first, and then you will accept your verdicts, but at the same time we did everything that was necessary, what the international federation of the red cross demanded, our partners were not satisfied, they began to issue more and more ultimatums, saying that if the secretary general does not leave, then is, unless the congress makes a different decision, this is how the letters were written, even signed by the president of the international federation of the red cross, the third... “we confirm t

of the gaza strip. as the attacks continue and the humanitarian situation worsens, the head of the international committee of the red cross is once again demanding stopping the war in gaza and sending humanitarian aid . in a message on the occasion of the arrival of the holy month of ramadan, ismail haniyeh, the head of the political office of the hamas movement, asked the leaders and scholars of the islamic ummah to take effective measures to stop the attacks on qadha. the guest of the program got his wish without compliments. the wish of this young gajkar is to travel to the holy places of allah al-hussein. a young man who achieved his dream and became a karbalai. the story started from here when this young gajkar could not participate in the march on 22nd of bahman due to busy work. therefore, by recording a short video of his participation. in the ceremony that day announcement dear kurdish leader, i could not participate in the voting process, but this is how i announce my presence: death to america, death to the religious authority , i put a mesh in america's mouth . the compliments of being present in that tv inter

of siberia entered the territory of the russian federation, in the kursk and belgorod regions, today, they did another humanitarian corridor for the evacuation of civilians, the insurgents call on the international committee of the red crossprovide assistance to the victims, according to their data, about 8 thousand civilian vehicles left the war zone last night. from the point of view of transferring the war to the territory of the russian federation, these raids periodically carried out by the red cross, and it was last year, today, and... these days , this raid is much wider, this raid is bigger, what do they give for ukraine and what do they, what do they threaten putin with? let's start with the main thing, that this is actually an internal russian situation, and even these last of those that we know, the strikes and raids of the siberian battalion, the red army, the russian volunteer corps and other groups, russian, by the way. this is an indicator of how much this spike is on clay feet called the putin regime, and the fact that such forces and such groups are doing it to increase the informational impact of such actions during the voting or on the eve of voting in russia only strengthens the confidence that this is

much. and she kidnapped, because it is her duty to provide the appropriate list of children, a list to the international committee of the red crossh the aim of ensuring that these children return home, to their parents, other relatives, or, for example, return to ukrainian foster families. at the same time, the russian federation ignores this obligation, by the way, many other obligations under international law, and therefore we still do not have such a list, although from time to time ne bendzia is the representative of russia at the un, or theirs. minister minister of foreign affairs serhiy lavrov is talking about some list that was apparently even published somewhere, although without specifying where. so we have some numbers, you name them, i'll try to explain the difference. plus or minus in human language. 19,546 ukrainian children are currently identified, information about them is available on the children of war platform. the administrator of this information is the national information bureau, that is, a structure created in accordance with the norms of international humanitarian law. our competent authorities authorit

of their protests against the inhumane prison conditions, while we're in a state of war, all the laws have changed, despite its ugliness, "the occupation ultimately adheres to the law of the international committee of the red cross democratic and civilized, but all the masks have fallen amid the ongoing war, there's no democracy, there are no human rights, no humanity in the israeli regime's dealings, so we see it innovating new torture techniques for the sake of deterrance, the regime used to insults to obtain forced conf'. but now and admit the war, the regime aims at pressing the resistance, the regime uses the scenes of the arrest of women and children in order to press the resistance to submit to its demands, then they want to obtain what they fail to obtain through weapons and explosives and through murders and physical assaults, by pressuring the fighters when they witnessed the mistreatment of their women, children and people, that is means of pressure and a dirty war. any war. has its own means such as means of destruction, such as bombs and weapons of mass destruction, but the other means is to torture the civilians who are not involved in any operations in order to press the fighters to give up and ra

of the russian federation in the kursk and belgorod regions. today, they made another humanitarian corridor for the evacuation of civilians, the rebels call on the international committee of the red crossprovide aid to the victims, according to their data, last night the red cross provided aid to the victims. according to their data, about 8,000 civilian vehicles left the war zone last night. from a transfer point of view wars on the territory of the russian federation, these raids that... are periodically carried out by the rkd, and last year it was, today, and these days this raid is much wider, this raid is bigger, what they give for... ukraine and what they, what do they threaten putin with? let 's start with the main thing, that this is actually an internal russian situation, and even these last of those that we know about the strikes and raids of the siberian battalion, the rdk, the russian volunteer corps and other groups, russian, by the way, this is an indicator of how much on clay feet this ear. under the name is the putin regime, and the fact that such forces and such groups are doing it to increase the informational, informational impact of such actions, precisely during th

of the russian federation in the kursk and belgorod regions. today, they made another humanitarian corridor for the evacuation of civilians. the rebels are calling on the international committee of the red cross to provide aid to the victims, according to their data from the war zone last night. there were about 800 civilian cars. from the point of view of transferring the war to the territory of the russian federation. these are the raids that he periodically carries out rdc, and it was last year, today, and these days, this raid is much wider, this raid is bigger, what they give for ukraine and what they, what they threaten putin with. let's start with the main thing, what it really is. truly the internal russian situation and even these last of those that we know about the strikes and raids of the siberian battalion, the rdk, the russian volunteer corps and other groups, russian, by the way, this is an indicator of how much this colossus called the putin regime is on clay feet, and the fact that such forces and such groups do it for reinforcement. informational, informational influence from such actions during the voting or on the eve of the voting in russia only strengthens the confidence

of those all children. that's a load. then there's another move in 72000 people who have been before the wounded as a result of these weighting attacks. as by expressing for the international committee of the red cross says the region is in a state of dissolved sta. the thing with the process that they are inefficient here on sustainable they cannot supply is required for entities of in turn, gave me the food to the best majorities, all of the nations the needs are definitely too large to cover via a line of air trucks, stuff even if they're 7 and databases, they take their time consuming and people go to a month and joins about 3 as time. kind of provides large quantities as needed and just sometimes it, even for people to the risk of trying to reach there. some of these are trumps for benjamin and see it's a possible what's no need to be focused on is to double the efforts as discharge. reminder that all the efforts must be pursued or just the conflict. and obviously a little bigger options are now more of more imperative to allow this patient just happens to be basic services that are essential for their own survival. i mean there's different prices across because of the trip in the north haven.

the more than 12000 of them are children where children now the 72000 people had been reported when they needs ready of tax. not a spokesperson for the international committee. of the red cross side of the region is in the state of this. that's the the thing with the address is that the are inefficient here on sustainable. they cannot supply state required quantities of, in turn paid me the food to the best majorities, all of the nation. the needs are definitely too much to cover by a line of air trucks that even if they're starving and databases, they take, they are time consuming and people enjoy luxury. it's time kind of to provide large quantities as needed and sometimes even put people to the risk of trying to reach there. some of these are just for benjamin and see it's a possible what's no need to be focused on is to double the efforts as discharge. reminder that all the efforts must be pursued or just the conflict. and obviously a locations are now more of more imperative to allow the civilian physician to practice, to the basic services that are essential for their own survival. i mean, there's a, from the crisis across because of the trip in the north, in the south

of dying from starvation, how soon could you put them in a better place? >> we know that all humanitarian organizations whether it is the u.n. or international committee of the red crossganizations, everyone is ready to come in with food, with medical supplies, with health personnel since almost all the hospitals have been destroyed. but what is unclear is how quickly people can get in right now. as you said if there is a cease fire today, we do not know how bad it is. what we know is the degree of damage is to a degree we have never seen before. once people can get in, once there is unfettered access and humanitarian workers feel safe, we know they will be ready to do what it takes. assessing the actual damage in terms of dollars or amounts, we don't know, but everyone is prepared and ready for the worst case scenario. and we know the minute people can enter safely to save and help the children of gaza and the palestinian people of gaza writ large, we know they will be ready to do their job. >> the aunt that -- beyond that aid, if we look at the definition of food sovereignty. the fields, crops, fishing vessels, what conditions are they in? >> to look into the future

of dying from starvation, how soon could you put them in a better place? >> we know that all humanitarian organizations whether it is the u.n. or international committee of the red crossganizations, everyone is ready to come in with food, with medical supplies, with health personnel since almost all the hospitals have been destroyed. but what is unclear is how quickly people can get in right now. as you said if there is a cease fire today, we do not know how bad it is. what we know is the degree of damage is to a degree we have never seen before. once people can get in, once there is unfettered access and humanitarian workers feel safe, we know they will be ready to do what it takes. assessing the actual damage in terms of dollars or amounts, we don't know, but everyone is prepared and ready for the worst case scenario. and we know the minute people can enter safely to save and help the children of gaza and the palestinian people of gaza writ large, we know they will be ready to do their job. >> the aunt that -- beyond that aid, if we look at the definition of food sovereignty. the fields, crops, fishing vessels, what conditions are they in? >> to look into the future

the power ministry. rapid support forces. tens of thousands of people have been killed. a young us young co is the regional space person for the international committee of the red cross in africa. she says, apply to of sit on the space people is not being given adequate international tension. it's been an incredibly difficult. yeah. for us, because when we are faced with human stuff, 31 such a rating scale. and when we, what we can bring, and what we can do to help this people is just a tiny fraction of some pad to be stay will be too many tiring needs. it is a very frustrating experience. and just with pulling the urgency folks, and when you turn in excess around so done to people in the capital cartoon in different areas of dark fluids because time is running now. so done is that a country with active war or divided by front lines, controlled by different sites in this conflict. so crossing from science has been extremely difficult and dangerous. we have had a bad security incidents where people will cubes and insured and it's just we come to work in the conditions where we have to put them to scale the so many kevin needs for to read from 9 to respond to and also the

of the war in october, mold and $12000.00 of those of children alone. then there's another 72000 or more people who have been wounded in these rarely attacks for spokes person for the international committee of the red cross says the region is in a state of disaster. the thing with the addresses that they are inefficient here on sustainable they cannot supply is required for entities of in turn, a made the food to the best majorities, all of the nations the needs are definitely too large to cover via. ready i know it's air drops that even if they're starving and databases, they take their time consuming and people enjoy the luxury of time kind of to provide large quantities as needed and sometimes it even for people to the risk of trying to reach there. some of these are trumps for benjamin and see it's a possible, it's what's known, it's me focused on is to double the efforts as discharge reminder that all the efforts must be pursued are just the completion of this new locations are now more of more imperative to allow this patient just happens to be basic services that are essential for their own survival. i mean there's different prices across because of the trip in the north haven. the style for diffe

the war started in october and more than 12000 of them were children. another 72000 over that number has been reported when did the news really a tax spoke specimen for the international committee of the red cross as that the region is in a state of disaster. the thing with the process that they are inefficient here on sustainable they cannot supply the required for disease of in turn gave me the food, the best majorities, off of the nation. the needs are definitely too much to cover by a line of air trucks that even if they're starving and databases, they take their time consuming and people don't think joyce about 3 of the time it's kind of to provide to large quantities as needed and sometimes it even for people to the risk of trying to reach there. some of these are trumps for benjamin and see it's a possible what's no need to be focused on is to double the efforts as discharge. reminder that all the efforts must be pursued purchase the completion of this new locations are now more of more imperative to allow this into a new position to happens to be basic services that are essential for their own survival. i mean, there's a, from the crisis across the guys as a trip in the north side of th

the war to stop in october. and more than 12000 of them were children and another 72000 people have been reported. one day and he's really attacked now spokesperson for the international committee of the red cross as a regional. the region is in the state of disaster. distinguish the addresses that the are inefficient here on sustainable. they cannot supply, state acquired quantities of intern paid me the food to the best majorities, all of the nation. the needs are definitely too large to cover by a line of air trucks that you're going to be a 7 and databases they take. they are time consuming, and people, the gallons of demand control is about 3, it's time kind of to provide large quantities as needed and it just, sometimes people even put people to the risk of trying to reach there. some of these are just for benjamin c. so if possible, get, what's now need to be focused on is to double the efforts as start reminder that all the efforts must be pursued are just to come pick it up, take a little vacation that are now more of more imperative to allow the civilian physician to have access to the basic services that are essential for their own survival. i mean, there's different prices across be

the war started in october, and more than 12000 of them are children where children, another 72000 people had been reported when did the news ready? a tax spokesperson for the international committee of the red cross southern region is in that state of disaster. a good thing with the process that they are inefficient, the sustainable. they cannot supply the required for disease of in turn, a mainly food to the vast majority of the nation. the needs are definitely too much to cover by a line of air trucks that even if they're starving and databases, they take their time consuming them to people jobs or develop centralized about 3 as time kind of provide to large quantities as needed. and sometimes it even for people to the risk of trying to reach there. some of these are trumps for benjamin and see it's a possible what's no need to be focused on is to double the efforts as discharge. reminder that all the efforts must be pursued or just the conflict, and obviously a little vacation are now more of more imperative to allow the civilian physician to have access to the basic services that are essential for their own survival. i mean, there's a, from the crisis across the guys as a trip in the north, i

of them all children. another 72. i was move on. people have been reported wounded in those attacks by, as well as makes pressing for the international committee of the red cross says the region is in the state of disaster. the thing with the addresses that they are inefficient here on sustainable. they cannot supply state acquired quantities of in turn paid me the food, the best majorities, all of the nations the needs are definitely too large to cover by a. ready line of air trucks that you're going to be 7 and databases. they take, they are time consuming. and people that goes on demand choices about 3 of time cannot provide large quantities as needed and sometimes even for people to the risk of trying to reach there. some of these are just a preventive and see, it's a possible what's now needs to be focused on is to double the efforts as this started reminder that all the efforts must be pursued or just the company cannot speak a little vacation. the are now more of more imperative to allow this position to happens to be basic services that are essential for their own survival. i mean, there's different prices across because of the trip in the north side o

children it has abducted, because it is its duty to provide the appropriate list of children, the list to the international committee of the red crossorder for these children to return home to their parents, other relatives, or, for example, have already returned to ukrainian foster families. at the same time , the russian federation ignores this obligation, by the way, a lot of other obligations under international law, and therefore we still do not have... such a list, although from time to time nebendzia, russia's representative at the un, or their minister of foreign affairs, serhii lavrov, talk about some list that was even published somewhere, although without specifying where. so we have some numbers, you name them, i'll try to explain the plus-minus difference in human terms. 19,546 ukrainian children are currently identified, information about them is available on the children of war platform, which is managed by it. of information is the national information bureau, that is, a structure created in accordance with international norms humanitarian law. our competent authorities, including the attorney general's office, insis

have been reportedly wounded, did attack spine, as well as spokesperson for the international committee. of the red cross says the region is in a state of dissolved stuff, they think would be addresses that they are inefficient, their sustainable. they cannot supply, state acquired quantities of, in turn paid me the food to the best majorities, all of the nation. the needs are definitely too large to cover by a line of air trucks, stuff even if they're 7 and databases they take, they are time consuming and people enjoy the luxury of time kind of to provide large quantities as needed and sometimes even put people to the risk of trying to reach there. some of these are just to prevent prevent, let's see. it's a possible what's no need to be focused on is to double the efforts as start reminder that all the efforts must be pursued or just to come pick it up. take a little vacation. are now more of more imperative to allow this opinion physician to have access to the basic services that are essential for their own survival. i mean there is a, from the crisis across because of the trip in the north. i think t

people have been reported when did any is really a tax that a spokesperson for the international committee of the red cross sides of the region is in the state of this last of the thing with the process that they are inefficient. the on sustainable they cannot supply the required for disease of, in turn gave me the food, the vast majority of the nation. the needs are definitely too much to cover by a line of air trucks that even if they're stopping and databases, they take their time consuming. and people, gallons of departments enjoy the luxury of time kind of to provide large quantities as needed. and sometimes even for people to the risk of trying to reach there, some of these are trumps for benjamin and see it's a possible what's no need to be focused on is to double the efforts as discharge. reminder that all the efforts must be pursued or just the completion of this new locations are now more of more imperative to allow the civilian physician to have access to the basic services that are essential for their own survival. i mean, there's different prices across the guys as a trip in the north side of

the capital and elsewhere remain trapped in desperate need of assistance . he but morgan, alta 0, talk to you on this. and your info is the regional spokes person for the international committee of the red cross in africa. she says appliances to those displaced people, his notes being given, advocates international attention. it's been an incredibly difficult. yeah. for us, because when we are faced with humans stuff great on such a very big scale and when we, what we can bring and what we can do to help this people is just a tiny fraction of some pad to be scaled between. when he tiring needs, it is a very frustrating experience and just with pulling up urgency folks. and when you turn in excess around so done to people in the capital cartoon in different areas of dark fluids because time is running now. so done ease with a country with active war, well divided by front lines controlled by different sites and this conflict. so crossing front sides has been extremely difficult and dangerous. we have had a bad security incidents where people will use an insured and it's just we come to work in the conditions where we have to put them to scale the so many trevor needs for to a truck and to resp

space causes struggling to meet the very basic needs communications officer for the international committee of the red cross hisham mine my honda says, while he welcomes, as experts to help desk people at drops come to the living does all stuff, the thing with the addresses that they are inefficient, dear, and sustainable, they cannot supply is required for entities of, in turn, paid me the food to the vast majority is all of the nation. the needs are definitely 2 large to cover by a line of trust stuff, even if they're standing and databases, they take their time consuming and the people, the gallons of the month, enjoy the luxury of time. it's kind of to provide large quantities as needed and sometimes it even put people to the risk of trying to reach there. some of these are jobs. preventative and see it's a possible what's now needs to be focused on is to double the efforts as discharge . reminder that all the efforts must be perceived are just the conflict and obviously a little big issues that are mount more of more competitive to allow this position to happens to be basic services that are essential

that are well within the geneva conventions, and recognised by the international committee of the international committee of the red crossand with you and that that works much better. >> brian. what if times of the essence, though, you've got people there who've just killed about 130 odd people in a theatre area in russia, there may or may not be others out there. there may or may not be another pressing danger. there might be somewhere. you might be a bomb somewhere. you need this very, need to establish this very, very brian. some people very quickly. brian. some people might what, just might think, you know what, just just them. might think, you know what, just justyeah, them. might think, you know what, just justyeah, wellzm. might think, you know what, just justyeah, well ,n. might think, you know what, just justyeah, well , that's you're not >> yeah, well, that's you're not going to get what you want. torturing anybody , because what torturing anybody, because what they refer to that as is enhanced interrogation , which enhanced interrogation, which basically is torture, and the individuals that you go out looking