and also they are they are trying to go illegal as well because we've had the international court of justice ruling not long ago and the act tramp is hoping to use these sanctions to force the running to signing a new nuclear deal how likely is iran going to do that i mean if you look back to two thousand and fifteen when that agreement was signed i was covering it from geneva and other places myself i mean it was a result of tool years of negotiations and and i doubt personally that there's going to be any deal but in what is on the table of course it doesn't address a lot of issues that americans are concerned with like a list of programs for example but it was not supposed to address the matter if we're going in the first place if it was you know it was meant to dress iran's nuclear activities and today iran has a bit better or worse i mean iran has shipped out most of whose enrich uranium it has i mean caused a lot of its centrifuges inside inside iran and there is no sign whatsoever that they are and they are changing their attitude saying to come ali dechen thank you for your insight.

and also they are they are trying to go illegal as well because we've had the international court of justice ruling not long ago and the act champ is hoping to use these sanctions to force a run into signing a new nuclear deal how likely is iran going to do that i mean really if you look back to two thousand and fifteen when that agreement was signed i was covering it from geneva and other places myself i mean it was a result of tool years of negotiations and and i doubt personally that there's going to be any deal but in what is on the table of course it doesn't address a lot of issues that americans are concerned with like of the less our program for example but it was not supposed to address the matter of oregon in the first place so it was. in. the. few days iran has a rules i mean iran has. i mean. there is no sign whatsoever they're changing that. side. thank you for your insight. let's not look at some of the other stories making news around the world the lawyer for the pakistani christian accused of blasphemy has fled the country earlier. his life was under threat from islamists that

of serbian people and serbian could not assert serbs cannot be called actively. be blamed for what happened there to courts the international criminal tribunal of tribunal for the former yugoslavia an international court of justice both ruled that it was genocide. and you won't accept it i do not think it was a chance side you're rewriting history and you trying to rewrite history i do not think it was a genocide i think it was but let me just say it seems like you know you know i think it was it was a terrible terrible crime but genocide is basically when you are genocide is when you are you know killing the entire population the women children and this was not the case in two thousand and four the presiding judge of the criminal tribunal for the former yugoslavia said by seeking to eliminate a part of the bosnian muslims the bosnian serb forces committed genocide they targeted for extinction the forty thousand bosnian muslims living in srebrenica a group which was emblematic of the bosnian muslims in general that's why it was labeled genocide. and if you can't if you if you can't accept it why should my septic it was a terrible crime serbia delivered the person who was charged with more crime we've delivered t

investigation whether there could be an investigation under the international court of justice that's another question or maybe other under some other international body that would be broadly enough representational to to garner a sense of legitimacy but i don't see it happening under the united nations system ok turkey's foreign minister says the president strums assessment of the cia's findings are wrong. how funny think tookie is willing to push this with the us what is president looking to get out of the trumpet ministration well that was quite a dramatic statement by foreign minister childish will lou and i you know you haven't seen that reiterated since he made that initial statement because it's dramatic to call out the u.s. president in the century say the u.s. president's not telling the truth or outright lying. so i think what will happen in ankara is that president obama and his team are going to wait and see how much pressure comes on president bush by the congress especially when the new house of representatives convenes on the control of the democratic party come january

international investigation is looking more of a possibility. the international community probably would do something with the international court of justice potentially and this would be something of course resisted by the saudis and possibly also by the americans but the turks might find themselves actually able to present additional evidence to cooperate their investigation so far and in terms of how the turks have done out of this they've played their cards fairly still fully and this is allowed them to if you will take down their regional rival a bit and restores some more positive relations with the west in the process we don't really know in terms of palace intrigue what is happening but we expect that in riyadh they're looking to minimize any changes from this point forward they've been in damage control mode a little more successfully of late but since terms of the relationship u.s. and saudi are trying to keep things on a fairly even keel but we're seeing some changes with regard to yemen in we'll probably see a few more that the saudis no doubt have been warned in advance so in that effect the two countries are remaining staunchly close goi

investigation whether there could be an investigation into the international court of justice that's another question or maybe other under some other internet.

investigation whether there could be an investigation under the international court of justice that's another question or maybe other under some other international body that would be broadly enough representational to to garner a sense of legitimacy but i don't see it happening under the united nations system ok turkey's foreign minister says the president strums assessment of the cia's findings are wrong. how funny think tookie is willing to push this with the us what is president looking to get out of the trumpet ministration well that was quite a dramatic statement by foreign minister childish will lou and i you know you haven't seen that reiterated since he made that initial statement because it's dramatic to call out the u.s. president in the century say the u.s. president is not telling the truth or outright lying. so i think what will happen in ankara is that president obama and his team are going to wait and see how much pressure comes on president bush by the congress especially when the new house of representatives convenes on the control of the democratic party come januar

investigation whether there could be an investigation under the international court of justice that's another question or maybe other under some other international body that would be broadly enough representational to to garner a sense of legitimacy but i don't see it happening under the united nations system ok turkey's foreign minister says the president's troops assessment of the cia's findings are wrong. how funny think tookie is willing to push this with the u.s. what is president looking to get out of the trumpet ministration well that was quite a dramatic statement by foreign minister childish will and i you know you haven't seen that reiterated since he made that initial statement because it's dramatic to call out the u.s. president in the century say the u.s. president's not telling the truth or outright lying. so i think what will happen in ankara is that president obama and his team are going to wait and see how much pressure comes on president bush by the congress especially when the new house of representatives convenes on the control of the democratic party come january

the philippines challenges the development of the islands in the south china sea at the international court of justice and wins the case, what is the first thing china does? ban philippine mangos from going from the philippines into china as a way of retaliating. so countries have been really reluctant to take on china in a major way for near-- fear they will be the subject of retaliation. if you put together a coalition of countries it puts together a sort of a shield for china to immediately retaliate. the other part again as i mentioned is evidence. it's hard to get enough of this evidence, particularly because china is no nontransparent. you simply cannot get your hand on the kind of documents you would normally need in order to prove these cases. and i think the last thing that is really important is one of the major and, i would say the most major claim against china, relates to the issue of subsidies. that china creates massive overcapacity in steel, aluminum, in chemicals and all of these products on the backs of subsidies and the concern there is whether the disciplines, for how do we get it,

end up all, it would almost certainly end up in court and you don't want to be at the international court of justiceent of no deal we would operate under, they don't say you have to secure your borders but they say you have to treat all your trading partners equally so if we were to say we cannot have a border, irish milk could still come from the republic to northern ireland, we would have to allow french milk to come in from france tariff free without any checks, or beef, if you let irish beef across the border, argentina could send their beef to the uk without any checks which wouldn't go down well with beef farmers, so there are constraints and rules which mean you cannotjust have an entirely open border without an agreement. so we would have opened borders and they wouldn‘t necessarily have to open their borders in the same way. nigel fe nton borders in the same way. nigel fenton has asked what are the terms ofa fenton has asked what are the terms of a deal regarding the free movement of people and uk citizens in eu countries? at the moment the agreement talks about the terms of the uk‘s exit s

international politics at the school of oriental and african studies so s. and he wrote the book distant justice the impact of the international criminal court on african politics and he's joining us live now from london thanks for talking to us phil how big a figure then is. in terms of the atrocities that have been carried out against the people of central african republic yet it's all me is in effect a middle ranking actor in the violence in central african republic that there's no doubt that he's charged with extremely serious crimes but but within central african republic he's not considered one of the big fish and so the suspicion around his case is that we're seeing something that we've seen with many of the other i.c.c. kerry says across africa which is that the court is going off to suspects who are available rather than those who are potentially the most responsible for these crimes in fact the i.c.c. only issued an arrest warrant for you to tom after that incident that you mentioned in your report where when he fired this rifle in the chapala meant he was then arrested by the current government so he was in jail and therefore he became a viable and t

number of countries and individuals as a result of the experience at the international criminal court, that this ends up basically being western justicepensed principally to africa? well, that is an understandable concern. it is a fa ct, understandable concern. it is a fact, isn‘t it? they have launched 11 investigations at the icc, all but one in georgia in eastern europe, all but one in georgia has been against an african country. well, i believe that there are others now including afghanistan, ukraine, that have expanded the focus, but with regard to africa, 33 african countries joined, more than any other continent. they are starting to leave, burundi is gone, south africa threatening to go. well, burundi has left, president zuma wanted to pull out, and he is under investigation for corruption in south africa. cyril ramaphosa won‘t do that and if he does he will have richard goldstone, judge richard goldstone... have richard goldstone, judge richard goldstone. .. precisely. objecting. the african union has an official champion, president buhari official champion, president buhari of nigeria. he gave a talk at the international cri

would be out of the jurisdiction of the european court of justice article one hundred seventy four says otherwise. unscared emeritus professor of international history at the london school of economics joins me on the line now very good evening to you we could we've had the background to this story but some very new information and you briggs the secretary has been named as steve barclay what will he bring to the challenge that lies ahead. probably nothing toll no dinners as you're bottom he's an arch loyalist of the prime minister he's never ever voted against the government he's in london quantity except as a kind of reliable. soldier he's he has a really good very much of a job to do because it was drawn to agreements already been signed and delivered. another document on the future relationship between britain and europe which is still to be fleshed out but a lot of that sort of have been drafted. and it's very unclear whether he'll have any input into the tools. he has really come into the job to be in don the prime minister that took personal charge of negotiations with the europe some time ago she sidelined the ministers who were supp

action here at the i.c.c. a feel croc is an africa analyst and author of distance justice the impact of the international criminal court on african politics he says the i.c.c. isn't actually doing a good job at bringing high profile suspects to court. yes it's all me is in effect a middle ranking actor in the violence in central african republic there's no doubt that he's charged with extremely serious crimes but but within central african republic he's not considered one of the big fish and so the suspicion around his case is that we're seeing something that we've seen with many of the other icy seas callouses across africa which is that the court is going off to suspects who are available rather than those who are potentially the most responsible for these crimes in fact the i.c.c. only issued an arrest warrant for you when he fired this rifle in the palm and he was then arrested by the car government so he was in jail and therefore he became a viable and then we saw the i.c.c. issued this arrest warrant it's not clear that the i.c.c. has been focused on him for a long time it seems like he might have turned up in th

of international justice. they are all unique when you think of trials involving yugoslavia, rwanda, the international court.cambodian government insisted on, which it held technically under cambodian jurisdiction, but with parallel internationaljudges and cambodian ones. that has been dramatic because the cambodian government has effectively restricted the cases they could be pursued with this small collection of very senior khmer rouge leaders. the number of other people who were thought to be guilty for other atrocities have not been brought to justice. it is a limited process. on the plus side, those who are frustrated by the enormous expenses, $300 million, the time it has taken, and the limited number, only two people have been convicted, would actually say it has been a fantastic documentation of what happened because of the immense amounts of test and see and research that has been done. —— testimony and research. at least cambodians who went through it has seen some accountability and will see things properly documented, a real historical record, which is a rarity not only in these cases but in the

institution's who might use the international court system special as international criminal court and other court systems to try to bring some justice and the impunity in this kind of killing that evidence has to be clear and compelling and we're still not quite there yet but most people who've looked at the evidence around the world seem to feel that there is a link to the crown prince's office certainly and possibly to him and countries have started taking action symbolic action like the american sanctions on eighteen saudis and more serious action like some of the europeans stopping arms sale and this will continue the saudi crown prince meanwhile has embarked on what is being called a brotherly tour head of his expected appearance at the g. twenty in argentina next week quite interesting running what's happening in tunisia right now do you think do you think he faces a serious legal threat. he certainly is faces a serious legal threat it's not clear of that legal status going to get anywhere and i think he's going to find other threats like this using the legal systems around the world certainly in europe and other countries that will try to use the power of th

of the reason was because there were so many refugees protesting about what was going on demanding their rights really absolute the international community to support them and to involve the international criminal court in seeking justice on their behalf for the atrocities that were committed against them by the government of myanmar in two thousand and seventeen. and mohamed you know there there is this talk of them possibly returning it to me and you're saying that they tell you they would not want to go back to me and maher but what about the conditions that they are housed the now in places like lux's bazaar where you are. chins in cox's bazar are dire they have been for a long time they are much improved from where they were a year ago but it's still quite bad the sanitation is not good really living in some of our conditions and that's also cause the concern every relief worker that we speak with here says more needs to be done in order to also guarantee the safety of their him to refugees who are here now the same workers say that bangladesh has been very generous to how the seven hundred thousand marines are refugees that have fled in the past year but that the international community needs to step up donate mo

three thousand i've already ns and survivors of torture and rape are demanding justice while president long bad law is on trial at the international criminal court nicholas hawke reports from abidjan. he says he was driving home when a policeman pulled him over asking for identification of the officer told him his last name didn't sound ivorian enough to foreign and he was arrested. while in custody he says police spat in his face the beatings turned to torture human rights groups say three hundred fifty seven people arrested like him were killed that same day and dumped in mass graves seven years on gebbie awaits justice someplace on the other for. since we feel it's wonderful society we have not received justice their parents or the children of those mother does of these this did want to let us express all show on grievance but you can't erase the past. which started as a disputed presidential election in two thousand and eleven turned to a civil war between supporters of a new president alassane ouattara and all but bo who are fused to concede defeat. he wrapped up nationalist rhetorical calling ouattara and his supporters foreigners and enem

are guilty of crimes against humanity and bring the case of venezuela before the international criminal court and they had and they had justices on this tribunal. and five latyib american countries and canada have formally presented this case to the international criminal court. [applause] >> that's what has to be done. we have to take new and creative actions to hold these regimes accountable and to mobilize support and support the people in these countries and hopefully liberation is going to come from them. >> thank you for your tireless effort. what makes you optimistic, we could leave this conversation being depressed or kind of down. these bad folks are real bad people. and they will do anything to stay in power. what makes you optimistic? ms. ros-lehtinen: i'm so optimistic and carl mentioned this group in nicaragua and bringing all of these factions together. everybody united and that's the key to success. i'm very optimistic. thank you for putting this -- this is unbelievable. women under repression in cuba, just an incredible document. not only are these brave cuban women a ray of hope, but we also have the newer gen

international criminal court that they investigate venezuela where they said there is reason to believe they are guilty of crimes against humanity and bring them before the international criminal court where they had justices on this tribunal and that has now been sent to the criminal court and you have five latin american countries plus canada have now formally presented this case to the international criminal court. [ applause ] >> amen. >> that's -- that's what has to be done. we have to take new and creative actions to hold these regimes accountable and then to mobilize support and to support the people in these countries because ultimately the liberation will come from them. >> ileana, thank you, again, for your tireless efforts. >>> thank you, dan. >> what makes you optimistic? you could leave this conversation being depressed or kind of down because these bad folks are real bad people and they've just -- they have -- they will do anything to stay in power. what makes you optimistic? >> i am so optimistic. carl mentioned this group in nicaragua and it's bringing all of these factions together and, you know, not this group and that group, but everybody united. that's the key to success. i am very opti

international law. when you read the detail of this, like article 174, sorry to be boring about it, but that basically says, we would remain subservient to the european court of justiceg the perfect brexit, and by seeking the perfect brexit, and by seeking the perfect brexit you are risking no brexit. no, i'm not seeking the perfect brexit, i'm seeking the perfect brexit, i'm seeking a brexit that means we leave the european union and we as politicians keep our promise to the british public who told us to leave. that is what this does not do, and that's why 88 conservative mps have now publicly come out against this. they have said publicly, on the records, they won't vote for it. add that to the labour party, the liberals, the dup, now critically, the snp. it will never get through the snp. it will never get through the house of commons. i asked the prime minister when will the bolt on this be? when will the so—called meaningful vote be? she ducked the question, she did not tell the house when she wants to do it. that is hardly a sign of confidence. speaking of confidence, you were one of those who have written a letter to the chairman of the 1922 committee asking f

of state for international traders making a speech on this today. that is absolutely clear but we are also clear that there is not going to be a long—standing role for the european court of justicesjohnson for some told us that you were cross with boris johnson for some of the told us that you were cross with borisjohnson for some of the things he did, are you cross with some of the brexiteers, who pushed for brexit for so long and are now rejecting what you managed to achieve? there have been strongly held views on the issue on both sides of the argument, by many people for a long time but i think now is the moment where we have an opportunity to deliver brexit for the british people and it should be at the forefront of our thinking when we go and vote on december the 11th. if the vote falls would you rule out a second vote in parliament on your deal? i'm focused on the vote on december the 11th, and i wa nt vote on december the 11th, and i want everybody who is going to participate, all members of parliament, to focus on what the vote does not but you are not ruling out a second vote? i am focusing on the vote in just over two weeks' time, to ensure that when members of parlia