i mean even though slobodan milosevic died before the conclusion of his trial before the international criminal. tribunal for you can slavia nonetheless quite remarkable fact that this was a former president of a nation he was being put on trial before an international court and that's no mean achievement is the project of international justice complete by all means not we now see a fledgling international criminal court also in existence in the hague has that court been successful to date well it's way too early to tell the fact that russia china knighted states pakistan india are boycotting the court is that unfortunate indeed i think it is but nevertheless i think. we shouldn't overlook the incredibly important achievement of the first nuremberg trial ok i'd like to go back to the selectiveness of international justice a little bit later how about you bill what is the most important precedent you think that nuremberg left us today and i think what all of us agree maybe on at least one point if that is a work in progress do you think bill. well i do think i agree with douglas that set a very

international criminal court. their idea of trying nazi leaders had been discussed by the allies even before the second world war was over churchill risible installing spoke about it in tehran in one nine hundred forty three at first the british prime minister insisted on exit q didn't lead in nazis without a trial it all but a german is defeat this remains your war powers agree don't do foo much of a trial to those responsible for war crimes france was made part of the tribunals nuremberg was chosen as the location for the trial which was symbolic as the city was considered the ceremonial birthplace of the nazi party there was actually a series of trials the first one and the best known was the trial of the twenty four major war criminals deputy fuehrer and he was appointed successor herman gehring been the major defendant the nazi leaders were indicted with crimes against peace war crimes and crimes against humanity most of them needed to the crimes but claimed they were full orders as a result of the trial twel

. >> the international criminal court has been presented with its most high-profile defendant since it began its work eight years ago. jean-pierre bemba faces charges for what was done in an african republic. we have this report from la hague. >> from the outset of this trial, the prosecutors are rying to show that bemba's responsibility was paramount and that he used rape as a weapon of war. it is said that unspeakable crimes were committed from -- by his forces when they entered the republic to help the president put down a coup attempt. >> one of the poorest countries of the world. the massive rapes were not just sexually motivated. they were crimes of domination women but also directed at men without authority. >> jean-pierre bemba has said he is not guilty. it is said that he gave his forces license to attack civilians. soon after these events allegedly occurred, bemba stood unsuccessfully for the presidency, but by 2008, he was in exile in brussels, where he was arrested, and then he was handed over to the international criminal court. more than 700 victims are being allowed to t

the international criminal court has been presented with its most -- a former vice president of the democraticepublic of congo has pleaded not guilty to war crimes. she faces charges for what the militia did in this central african republic. >> from the outset of this trial, the prosecutors are trying to show that his command responsibility was paramount and that he used rape as a weapon. the chief prosecutor told the court that unspeakable crimes had been committed by his forces when they entered the central african republic's eight years ago. >> troops stole from the poor people of one of the poorest countries in the world. the massive rapes were not just sexually motivated. they were crimes of domination and humiliation directed against women but also directed against men with of sorting. >> he has been pleaded not guilty, but the prosecutor said a commander that allowed his troops to act this way, is more dangerous than a single rapist. soon after these events allegedly occurred, he became vice-president in his own country of congo. he later stood unsuccessfully for the presidency, but by

former vice president of the democratic republic of congo it is expected to start at the international criminal court in the hague monday. he faces charges of war crimes related to his forces alleged actions against the billions and in a preferential african republic in 2002 and in 2003 when he was a rebel leader fighting against his own government. in a press conference held a short while ago at the hague, icc registrar detail the charges brought against him. mainly charges of rape, murder, pillage, constituting war crimes. 142 rulings handed down. a 759 victims were authorized to take part in the trial and the trial chamber is still reviewing more than 500 other applications. >> that was the registrar of the international criminal court. still to come here on "gmt," our children and afghan capital safer than those in london and new york? nato that a top diplomat in afghanistan after those controversial comments. 10 of the somali men are in trial on germany monday, charles -- charged with piracy, the first such case in the port city of hamburg in about 400 years. they are charged with trying t

because the compromise of a lot of different governments coming up with the law for the international criminal court so there is some new procedures and checks and balances, it is a slow process. it is the advance over having nothing. before that there was nobody or international body that tilt with crimes against humanity or genocide. now we have to make this work. part of making it work is the faux pas committed we need to address that quickly and if it happens again we just keep pushing and eventually i am sure at some point* president bashir will face justice breyer second question, thank god i wrote it down. i will be with an curry and george clooney next week because we are about 100 days away from a referendum in southern sudan to determine whether or not the southern one-third of the country basically secedes from sudan to create two new countries and we want to highlight what is happening there because the potential birthing of a new country is leading to great fears that war will resume and southern sudan. at the height of death and destruction and genocide and darfur the high range

this principle have been determined in the development of international law first of all international criminal humanitarian law international justice they laid the foundations for the development of regulations of crimes against humanity . genocide and aggression. but you can. go with the international bases a lot of principle isn't on the nuremberg experience but. still has proven. bernal is recognized by every as a major political in just a legitimate oversteer factor for its existence is the unity of the united nations at the time when it was created during the process and in doing this as a result of. international justice should be a result of joint effort and have authority into international community. terms that certain countries work with the groups of contributions the role of the international judge will have. should not have legal consequences in the recent history such an attempt to take place in the only cause trouble and instability for the world. who gets to go to. the same that not all of us learned well the lessons. otherwise what could be the reason to the fact that even tod

but by 2008, he was in exile in brussels where he was arrested and then handed over to the international criminal court. more than 700 victims are being allowed to take part in the process to try him. several hundred more have asked to do so. a legal representative for the victims say they are -- said they were still traumatized and this was a way to break the silence and give them a voice. >> much more coming up. stay with us if you can. the british government voices its concern that the bbc finds homophobic lessons and anti- semitic lessons being taught to muslim children. first, 10 men from the somali have gone on trial in germany, accused of piracy. they are charged with boarding a container ship in april. dutch troops recaptured the ship after an exchange of gunfire. we have this report from berlin. >> normally, pirates don't come this close to the law. but in april, a dutch anti- piracy control happened to be near a container ship that had been snatched off the coast of somalia. the dutch marines boarded the vessel and confronted the pirates. this is a soldier's eye view as he faces man he

two things first drug trafficking most of them understandably so there are a transnational international criminal groups operating in the field moreover their activities are well coordinated and we saw that particularly during the operation you mentioned and after it as we analyzed its results and received expert assessments and estimates and second which extremist groups we are observing some very serious processes in progress in central asia for example we have specific information indicating that some of them based extremist groups were implicated in the mass scale rioting in southern kurdistan they're examples where those extremist groups attempted to destabilize the situation in certain areas of the stand i mean they're becoming more active not long ago the taliban whose flag those groups light turned up on the north in northern afghanistan they are able to extend their influence to northern afghanistan and across the pounds revert to the territory of member states. this is why we agreed at the c.s.t. zero interior ministers meeting that we should counter extremist activities in central asia

the goldstone report from being brought forward and with israeli accountability sent to the international criminal court it means continuing what the u.s. has done in the past of making sure that in the international atomic energy agency that israel is never even requested to join the nonproliferation treaty and make public its well known but officially secret. nuclear arsenal all of these things are things that the u.s. has provided to israel anyway so what they're adding to it now is saying that after this three month partial slowdown of settlement construction because it will not apply in east jerusalem which is crucial that's where there's a big settlement expansion campaign already underway that they will never again ask for a settlement freeze so it's giving the israelis an awful lot in return for really not very much. hey investigators say they can prove a russian accountant who died in prison was part of a massive embezzlement scheme sergei magnitsky exact role that hermitage capital became a massive scandal after he died of a heart attack behind bars or he's a catarina groucho has the det

that man is still sudan's president today, president omar bashir.t he stands indicted by the international criminal court fol crimes of genocide and crime against humanity for what happened in darfur.w so in 2003 darfur was just really a whisper. and at that time franklin graham was very much in the public eyee because he had called islam a wicked and evil religion, and so that sound bite was echoing around, especially in sudan. because the north of sudan is primarily muslim. and so there was a lot of outcry against his arrival. and so when i found out he wass going to meet with his sworn enemy, i asked if i could go along, and i was working fory. that bastion of religious values, ""vanity fair"" magazine. and so he said yes, and he took me, and when we went and sat in the marble palace, these two men, it was like watching -- it was fascinating. these two men each tried tohe's convert the other, and can thato was not terribly successful. and then graham made reference to a hospital that he ran until very recently in louis that is south sudan's largest hospital. and president bashir's government and

the hour like fighting international criminal conspiracies, as opposed to fighting wars against animal -- enemy nations. that means our soldiers must subject themselves to somewhat more risk by trying to constrain the use of force on their part, not shoot at the people that are protecting. but at the same time, they are not any more the to a target of an enemy. there is no enemy. there are only people out to foment chaos. how to figure that out in the context of our current conflict is really a challenge. >> we have several. >> back to the question, you said how much risk. i am not sure you can answer that. >> i like to ask unanswerable questions. >> you did, and i like to have answers to questions. that is one of those areas where our policy makers, or politicians, when they make a decision to insert forces, for whatever reason, whether it is because we are trying to do humanitarian assistance -- the heart and other issues where we have done tsunami relief and other kinds of things. there was discussion during the tsunami about are you going to send forces in uniform who are carrying

afghanistan it's a horse calling the shots flaunting all possible law customs and international laws regarding the criminal activity so on the eve of the u.s. strategy and policy review in december eighth it's a long overdue for the u.s. commander in chief to intervene personally and to make sure that he's not only paying lip service regarding the growing danger of corruption and drug production in afghanistan we could result in the imploding of any social fabric left in afghanistan and could boomerang and we would discreated completely the u.s. image not only in afghanistan but far and beyond. that was a minute you continue to get a huge shelf and saw that i would have the space and seize the few minutes i stated this. for the four we've got. the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers. which brightened. from funds to. come. and i welcome to the program here and. folly as shares of russia's biggest messel companies of twenty percent i mean for the last two years. the most. valued on the stock market among these companies are m.k. every. medina caution of. matzoh was one of the i

that is why i think ideas like the international criminal court or a number of of proposals that were being proposed at copenhagen to deal with climate although they have been rebuffed by the united states in the short term, are very much going to be on the international agenda going forward, and i think the risk in the next two years with obama gridlocked at home domestically, he will turn his attention internationally, where he is traveling out, and think that this might be a way to achieve some of the games that he is that going to be able to get domestically. -- some of the aims he is not going to be able to get domestically. what do we conclude? the economy with almost any kind of market basis, create such an enormous potential for dead weight loss that governments have a lot of room to do so foolish things, and given the chance, they usually do. for totalitarian regimes, the lessons they should of learned from the last century are don't attack your enemies too early or too often. with a little bit more patient you might have a better chance of succeeding. and then third and fina

it's kind of the horse calling the shots flaunting all possible law customs and international laws regarding the criminal activity so on the eve of the u.s. strategy and policy review in december first it's a long overdue for the u.s. commander in chief to intervene personally and to make sure that he's not only paying lip service regarding the growing danger of corruption and drug production in afghanistan which could result in the imploding of any social fabric left in afghanistan and could boomerang and we would discreated completely the u.s. image not only in afghanistan but far and beyond those artes but it's to contribute to that kind of candy who shot. let's check out all the businesses now is charlotte news that money going in russia surged after the financial crisis hello yes investigators say the main culprits are not banks but other industries like tourism charities details later in the program but first this hour russia is interested in interacting south korean investors speaking in seoul ahead of the g twenty summit to region riveted says south korea is one of the top priority partners for r

afghanistan it's a horse calling the shots flaunting all possible laws customs and international laws regarding the criminal activity so on the eve of the u.s. strategy and policy review in december it's a long overdue for the u.s. commander in chief to intervene personally and to make sure that he's not only paying lip service regarding the growing danger of corruption and drug production in afghanistan we could result in the imploding of any social fabric left in afghanistan and could boomerang and we will discreated completely the u.s. image not only in afghanistan but far and beyond. well that was our tease metric contributor currently of getting pushed off. by that let's check out all the business news now charlotte turned some good news for the russian car industry oh yes cells of new cause the light commercial vehicles in russia raise twenty two percent in the first ten months of this year we'll have the details later in the program but first this hour shares of russia's biggest metal companies of twenty percent the last two years which is small increase when compared to the world's top producers mos

they are like fighting international criminal conspiracy as opposed to fighting conventional war againstenemy nations, and that means once over soldiers must subject themselves in a way to more risk than trying to be constrained to resorts to the use of force on their part, not sure that the people they are protecting the the the same time, they are not any longer legitimate targets of an enemy, there is no enemy. they are only people who are not to formant chaos. so how to figure that out in the context of our current conflict is a challenge. >> we have several. i think admiral noel. >> that to the question how much risk, i'm not sure you can answer that. >> i like to have answers to questions put those are one of those areas where our policy makers or politicians when they make a decision to enforce for whatever reason the it because we are trying to do humanitarian assistance, which, you know, pc is clearly not and there are other instances we do tsunami relief and other things, there was a high-level policy discussion particularly during the tsunami about are you going to send forces

in my experience and i've been doing this federal criminal defense and international extradition since the late eighty's my experience has been generally the court appointed counsel in the federal criminal case is not up to it's not up to speed they're not typically experienced in complex cases so it's going to get court appointed counsel if you can't afford to hire counsel. and and and he's going to get an experience counsel on the other hand. if he wants to hire counsel because mr boot has been designated by the u.s. department of treasury's office of foreign asset control because he's been designated as a special designated individual that hired counsel is going to have to get permission from the u.s. department of treasury evasion in order to to represent and be paid by mr bush so it's the very government that's wanting to put him in jail one of which is. the underlying offense will buy a lation a loaf that attorney is going to have to get permission from the represent mr all it's definitely going to be a very high profile case and everything that you just told us sounds like it's

that led to the demotion of command staff and led to internal administrative and criminal investigations dealt with by the same command. now, that commander right now is looking into allegations of narcotics distribution, drug dealing, and money laundering by police officers. we have calls to the san francisco department a number of times this morning and we have so far no comment from them. live in san francisco, terry mcsweeney, abc 7 news. >> thank you very much. it's 5:02 now. san francisco police are looking into what caused an early morning crash that killed two people and injured three others. it happened at around 1:00. a car traveling at a high rate of speed westbound on ocean avenue careened off a light people at sarah boulevard. two of the five people inside the vehicle were thrown out of the car. one died at the scene, the other at the hospital. a truck driver who witnessed the crash says it did not appear the car was involved in any type of racing. >> emotions ran high at a meeting at san pablo's lake elementary school. they talked about schools their children would attend w

that is why i think ideas like the international criminal court or a number of of proposals that were being proposed at copenhagen to deal with climate although they have been rebuffed by the united states in the short term, are very much going to be on the international agenda going forward, and i think the risk in the next two years with obama gridlocked at home domestically, he will turn his attention internationally, where he is traveling out, and think that this might be a way to achieve some of the games that he is that going to be able to get domestically. -- some of the aims he is not going to be able to get domestically. what do we conclude? the economy with almost any kind of market basis, create such an enormous potential for dead weight loss that governments have a lot of room to do so foolish things, and given the chance, they usually do. for totalitarian regimes, the lessons they should of learned from the last century are don't attack your enemies too early or too often. with a little bit more patient you might have a better chance of succeeding. and then third and fina

one important game changer is the complex and which we find involved.ry's they are fighting international criminal conspiracies. once our soldiers must subject themselves anyway to somewhat more risk by trying to be there use ofstrain the res violence. had to figure that out in the context of our current conflict is really a challenge. >> first of all, back to the question, how much risk? i do not sure -- i am not sure we can answer that. i like to have answers to questions, but that is one of those areas where our policy makers or politicians, when they make a decision to insert forces for whatever reason, be it because we're trying to do humanitarian assistance, which haiti is clearly, and there have been other instances where we have done some not merely, there was a lot of policy discussion, particularly in a tsunami where you ask if you will send forces in uniform who are also carrying weapons. the answer to that much of the time is no. you want to be able to have those people who are victims understand that we're there to help and to distribute food and care and not be there to occupy or do

that is why i think ideas like the international criminal court or a number of of proposals that were being proposed at copenhagen to deal with climate although they have been rebuffed by the united states in the short term, are very much gointo be on the international agenda going forward, and i think the risk in the next two years with obama gridlocked at home domestically, he will turn his attention internationally, where he is traveling out, and think that this might be a way to achieve some of the games that he is that going to be able to get domestically. -- some of the aims he is not going to be able to get domestically. what do we conclude? the economy with almost any kind of market basis, create such an enormo potential for dead weight loss that governments have a lot of room to do so foolish things, and given the chance, they usually do. for totalitarian regimes, the lessons they should of learned from the last century are don't attack your enemies too early or too often. with a little bit more patient you might have a beer chance of succeeding. and then third and finally, i

criminal violations. >> reporter: hylton says his internal investigation continues and so does the federal investigation. >> what i'm seeing from the number of incidents that have come up to my attention, greed has taken over a lot of our employees. >> reporter: now the officers are suspended without pay and could face a maximum of 20 years in prison. now these cases are part of a corruption probe. the fbi says it goes back more than four years. beyond that the feds won't say any more about how today's arrests are connected to the johnson case. >> wisdom, what else do we know about these officers, anything? >> well, we know sergeant delabrer is a 22 year veteran of the police department and corporal kim is a 16 year veteran. this is the third time officer sinisa simic has been in trouble with the law. simic was suspended in july and september again for having narcotics in the car. >> as for the tip of this iceberg corruption according to the u.s. attorney's office, days after his arrest county executive jack johnson was back at work. while he's technically on home detention he is allowed. johnson spoke

the international community the swiss government has put forward a counterproposal to the version now in this version they say that those who qualify for expulsion would have to be foreign criminals convicted of at least one year in prison so it has a limit to that also they are saying that deportations must fall within international law and they also put apart their stressing the importance of integration in order to avoid criminality among foreigners into a society that was. reporting from zurich. the finance ministers in the r.s. government have reached a deal on an eighty five billion euro rescue package for iran and the country's economy went into meltdown this week under the weight of its banking debt and there's been public outrage at the government's handling of the crisis about fifty thousand people marched through dublin on saturday testing against partial stamatina just introduced to cut the country's huge budget deficit that is trying to say with reworking people to take human here for the rich and the banks. there are fears portugal and spain may be next in line for a bailout german economist marcus kerber told r.t. that europe's biggest economies pay the debts of ot

amnesty international has called for a criminal investigation.es must step in and carry out such an investigation themselves. "the telegraph" boris johnson, a conservative, issued the following warning. it is not yet clear whether george w. bush is planning to cross the atlantic to flog us his memoirs. but i would urge caution. the real trouble from the bush point of view is that he might never see texas again. one moment he might be holding forth to a great perspiring tent at hay-on-wye. the next moment, click, some embarrasses member could walk on stage, place some handcuffs on the former leader of the free world and take him away to be charged. of course, we are told this scenario is unlikely. "w" is the former leader of a friendly power with whom this country is determined to have good relations. but that is what torture-authorizing augusto pinochet thought. and unlike pinochet, mr. bush is making no bones about what he has done. let's call in jonathan turley, george washington university school of law. good evening. >> hi, keith. >> the mayo