it tells the palestinian authority, if you make a petition to the international criminal court against the state of israel, if you go down the international criminal court wrote, that would throw the peace process in a ditch and we believed it would undermine any chance of a peaceful solution any time soon. we will cut off funding. the last thing we want to do is break a relationship between the palestinians that is mutually beneficial, but the date the palestinians use their u.n. status to try to marginalize israel and their national criminal court, it will be clear to theus we are investing in an unreliable partner. we do not mind struggling -- helping struggling nations when it is in our national security interest. i do not mind investing in people who have different virs, but i will not tolerate support -- views, but i will not tolerate sending hundreds of millions of dollars to win entity that will take any standing in the united nations and use it in a destructive way. i cannot think of a more destructive scenario for the future of the peace process than one complaint after anoth

seems this video, too, will be part of the evidence, if that case comes up before the international criminal court. >> if it does take it further, what does that mean? what would achieve? >> we see people from the former warsaw in yugoslavia in the international criminal court at the hague now. people are tried. the people who are subject to those violations, the victims and victims' families are allowed to say what happened to them. very severe prison sentences are handed out. at the moment we are seeing one of the purposes of the international criminal court is not just to provide justice but to show future possible violators that the there is snow impunity. this is exactly what the u.n. is threatening this morning. if you commit a violation such as what appears to be committed in that video, and you will be caught up with, you will be brought to justice. there's no impunity for people who commit abuses of that nature. but they are not naming people at this stage? greta but they do have a list of names that is confidential. it's very clear that a case which could be brought to a court of law, be

won't be frozen but the palestinian authority will have the option of going to the international criminal court which are under the wrong statues statutes under the rome star choose which are the statutes of the international criminal court they state that the settlements are a war crime and the palestinian authority will have the opportunity if they get it when they get the observers there is to go to the international criminal court for israel's criminal behavior in the occupied territories. well go to the united nations coming up within the hour keep your course up to date on the outcome if you still decide on the details as well you can always check out our website we've got perspectives from all sides as well as plenty of analysis on the story. the wide reaching leveson report into the standards of the u.k. press has suggested it should be regulated by a new independent body backed by legislation while prime minister cameron didn't look very happy about the idea of a press regulating law he deputy pm but the initiative earlier talked about his police more insight on the story. lord leveson

to go to the international criminal court for israel's criminal behavior in the occupied territories so if you'll start american political scientists not davis thank you for your thoughts on a pretty shaded well that the vote on the upgrade of palestinian state is that united nations just values expected to take place at twenty one hours g.m.t. tonight we will of course keep you fully posted on the outcome of. the what region leveson report in the standards of the u.k. press has suggested it should be regulated by a new independent body backed by legislation but prime minister cameron has agreed that contact between politicians and media executives should be made public earlier i spoke about sees a police more insight into the story. lord leveson very damning in his report about the press ethics of some of the parts of the newspaper industry said that they ruined and they quote some innocent people's lives also very critical of politicians cozy relationship that's how he called it with powerful media organizations and what his recommendations really boiled down to was that he says th

bodies, for example, the u.n. -- international criminal court. and many worry that they could go after is real progress this is what caused israel the most concern, that the palestinians can challenge them in the international fora, most notably the international criminal court. there is concern that soldiers all over the world will be subject to icc challenges. they see it as a not a step toward peace, but one of confrontation. >> france voted yes. germany and britain abstained. they were kind of on the fence. what of the peace talks, which everyone says they want? >> my concern is that this might push peace? further away rather than forward. given that you need israel at the table and that the u.s. tends to be the shepherd of peace talks, the palestinians defied president obama's express wishes not to do this. the u.s. calls for direct negotiations. we have seen this in the wake of the reaction. prime minister netanyahu said this is not a vote for peace. the challenge is getting the two sides back to the table in to direct negotiations. that has

leader yasser arafat's palestinians say it's approved it was close and they'll go to the international criminal court which could become possible if the autonomy is pending before you prove your own status is granted. france's fears of home grown terrorism or reaganite amid a growing number of young locals turn into radical islam. this is auntie coming to live from moscow hello and welcome to the program egyptian security forces are firing tear gas and demonstrators on to hit square on wednesday morning as the country is going through one way its biggest antigovernment protests since their revolution two years ago tens of thousands of angry egyptians are accusing president morsi seeking to impose a new era of dictatorship after he should add to last way granting him near absolute power as live pictures from cairo right now and stone boston is there as well for us good morning after a violent night tension is again running high in the egyptian capital so do our daters on what's being happening this more. that. there yulia it seems that a running street battles has been going on in the streets around r

leader yasser arafat's palestinians say it's proved he was poisoned they'll go to the international criminal court which could become possible if the autonomy spending big boy prove to be one state is granted. france's fears of grown terrorism are righ united have made a growing number of young locals turning to radical islam. international news live from moscow this is he was me thanks for joining us egypt has seen one of its biggest since a revolution two years ago with tens of thousands of venting their anger at president morsi demonstrators are accusing the president of seeking to impose a new era of dictatorship to issued a decree last week granting himself needed absolute power as several people have died and hundreds have been injured in days of unrest as opponents of are to continue the protest until the islamist leader bankstown off his tone barton is and kyra. but the sights the sounds and indeed the smells of protest and of civil disorder are in the air of central cairo tonight behind me in tahrir square there are still thousands of protesters waving their flags chanting to the effect t

palestinians are saying they'll go to the international criminal court to if it's confirmed they read it yes that out of prague what's the point and i hope staters upgrades at the u.n. will help. and the terrorism evolves draws up plans to contain homegrown let me grab the goals operating and cells to the ways of the european union. at six pm here in moscow you're watching r t a live go with me to mom one day egyptian police fired tear gas protesters amassed into the square but still the demonstrations against what is being seen as a dictator like paul grabbed by the president show no sign of ending over one hundred thousand people are calling on mohamed morsi to leave after he gave himself a floor beyond the reach of the courts archies tom barton is in cairo. here in the streets of central cairo the sights the sounds and the smells of protest and of civil disorder are very loud and very clear tucker a square is just over there and a large crowd of protesters are fooling stones at the police who are giving just as much back picking up stones themselves and firing back along with them

leader yasser arafat's palestinian say if it's proved he was poisoned they'll go to the international criminal court which could become possible if the autonomy's pending bid for you prove to you one status is granted. and the fountains of homegrown terrorism are reignited amid a growing number of calls turning to radical islam. you're watching r t a live from moscow with me tom what's a good to have you with us egyptian security forces fired tear gas at demonstrators onto a few square on wednesday morning as a country goes through one of its biggest anti-government protests since the revolution two years ago tens of thousands of angry gyptian zog using president morsi of seeking to impose a new era of dictatorship after he issued a decree last week granting himself absolute pollard's archies tom watson is in cairo. a running street battles has been going on in the streets around risk where between a large group of largely young male protesters and the police there all throughout the night there were tear gas canisters being fired into the crowds the protesters picking those up and throwing them bac

palestinians say they'll go to the international criminal court if it is confirmed the leader yasser arafat was poisoned and have the status upgrade that the u.n. will help that call. on terrorism evolved from scrambles to contain homegrown islamic radicals adept at blending into the european way of life. online life from when you said to here moscow this is r.t. the demonstrations in egypt against what is being seen as a dictator like power grab by the president show no sign of ending of one hundred thousand people according on mohammed morsi to leave after he gave himself authority beyond reach of the courts this is the islamist dominated constitution assembly says it could complete a draft of the document in the coming hours bell true is in the egyptian capital and we've had to hire is made to court so the country's major courts the constitutional court and the appeals court say they are going to strike because the judges themselves are still on a partial strike the journey syndicates entering so cool for a strike so we're seeing really quite a lot of movement from major sects. is

former leader yasser arafat's palestinian day if it's proved he was poisoned go to the international criminal court which could become possible would be autonomy's pending before improved do you want status is granted . and france's fears of homegrown terrorism are reaganite to demi the world the number of young locals turning to radical islam. hello this is r.c. live from moscow. state gyptian security forces have clashed with demonstrators on the high of square on wednesday morning after a violent night that saw one of the biggest antigovernment protests since the revolution two years ago so it turns out signs of anger egyptians are accusing president morsi shit seeking to impose a new era of dictatorship after he should agree last week granting himself absolute power as several people have died and hundreds have been injured in days of unrest as a part it's valid to continue the protests until the islamist leader up on down life pictures from cairo right now for you and also has tom barton is in cairo for us as well. the sights the sounds and indeed the smells of protest and of civil disorder ar

in this bid then they will actually be able to bring the israeli government before the international criminal court to answer that for charges of war crimes etc and it is conceivable at least that they would be able to bring a case if it was proven that arafat was killed by israeli agents that they would be able to bring the case before the international criminal court on that ground if they do manage to get this this nonmember status upgrade but but again that's a that's a political long shot in a number of regards and whether or not the international criminal court would even be interested in hearing about the case is another matter entirely the vast majority of palestinians have always assumed that israel assassinated arafat if this goes on to confirm that it kind of throws in the face of the palestinians their helplessness in a situation like this and this was underscored actually just earlier this month when israel came out and for the first time military censors allowed information about the killing of. co-founder not just to yasser arafat but also khaleel al with here was a co-founder of fat

way leader yasser arafat's palestinians say it proves it was poisoned they'll go to the international criminal court which could become possible if the autonomy is pending before improve the one status is granted. chances fears a homegrown terrorism reignited demetre growing number of young locals turning to radical islam. international news and comment live from moscow this is a she with me you national power thanks for joining us egyptian security forces fired tear gas and demonstrators on the square on wednesday morning as the country goes through one of its biggest anti-government protests since the revolution two years ago tens of thousands of angry egyptians are accusing president morsi is seeking to impose a new era of dictatorship after he issued a decree last week granting himself absolute powers on his tone bought on its own car. a running street battles has been going on in the streets around risk where between a large group of largely young male protesters and the police there all throughout the night there were tear gas canisters being fired into the crowds but the protesters picking th

palestinians say they'll go to the international criminal court if it's confirmed that out of body was poisoned and hope the stages are great at the u.n. will help because. terrorism evolves franza draws up plans to contain homegrown islamic radicals operating in cells and that each of the ways of the european union. twenty four hours a day seven days a week this is r t egyptian police fired tear gas at protesters. square but still the demonstrations against what is being seen as a dictator like paul grab by the president show no sign of ending over one hundred thousand people are calling on mohamed morsi to do you after he gave himself a floor beyond the reach of the courts artist tom botton is and kyra. a running street battles has been going on in the streets around risk where between a large group of largely young male protesters and the police there all throughout the night there were tear gas canisters being fired into the crowds the protesters picking those up and throwing them back at the police lighting fires in doorways pulling branches off trees to light bows and tearing up

field will leave by palestinians say if it's part of your supplies and they'll go to the international criminal court which could become possible if the autonomy is pending but both in court improved give us the status is going to. france's fears of homegrown terrorism are reignited amid a growing number of young locals turning to radical islam. international news life for moscow this is all she was in the. hello and welcome to the program egyptian security forces fired tear gas on demonstrators on tahrir square on wednesday morning as the country go through one always the biggest anti-government protests since the revolution two years ago tens of thousands of angry egyptians are accusing president morsi of seeking to impose a new era of dictatorship after haitian a decree last week granting himself new absolute powers botton is in cairo for us. a running street battles has been going on in the streets around risk where between a large group of largely young male protesters and the police there all throughout the night there were tear gas canisters being fired into the crowds the protesters picking t

heard earlier it will give the palestinians the possibility of going to join either the international criminal court which could allow some level of accountability for israeli war crimes additionally it means they could have the possibility to join the international court of justice as a member as a state in which case they could do what countries do in the international court of justice all the time bring a lawsuit against another country in this case the state of palestine could sue the state of israel for its illegal occupation but what about the other room for cases might be you mentioned the settlements thought announcement is being seen as a punishment. from the palestinians with sanctions too over this vote in the u.s. of course lawmakers they want to be might cut a part of the sign to the big success of the u.s. in the remodelers emboldened tonight but it could actually have a negative impact broad impact on the west bank and gaza. you know i think that one thing that susan rice said was correct about the only thing she said that was correct was that this is not going to have a huge impact o

go to the international criminal court if it's confirmed that leader yasser arafat was poisoned and hope a status upgrade at the u.n. will help. terrorism evolved from scrambles to contain homegrown islamic radicals adept to blending into the european way of life. on air online live from the new center here in moscow this is egypt's top courts of stop working in a show of solidarity with those protesting against what's being described as a dictator like power grab by the president of one hundred thousand people gathered in cairo according on mohammed morsi to leave after he gave himself authority beyond reach of the courts. is in the egyptian capital. here in the streets of central cairo the sights the sounds and smells of protest and civil disorder very loud and very clear where is just over there and a large crowd of protesters. and the police who are giving just as much back picking up stones themselves and firing back along with them. firing gas canisters into the crowds this tent. of to gas is thick in the air the police a protest as everyone alike is as there are these and noses wh

penalty you'd say they'll go to the international criminal court if it's confirmed they believe that yes i do but my point isn't and i hope they say does the outbreak at the u.n. or help the bulls. and terrorism evolve bonzes quibbles to contain homegrown islamic radicals dabs at blending into the european way of life. it's a one pm here in moscow you live with us here on our t.v. with me tom and say egypt's top courts have stopped working in a show of solidarity with those protesting what's being described as a dictator like paul grabbed by the president over one hundred thousand people gathered in cairo are calling on mohamed morsi to leave often he gave himself up for it to beyond the reach of the courts archies time botton is in the egyptian capital there in the streets or central cairo the sights the sounds and the smells of protest and civil just so it's a very loud and very clear tough or a square is just over there and a large crowd of protesters are erling stones at the pole. these who are giving it just as much back picking up stones themselves and firing back along with th

palestinians say they'll go to the international criminal court if it's confirmed that leader yasser arafat was poisoned with the status upgrade at the u.n. will help their cause. and terrorism evolved from scrambles to contain homegrown islamic radicals adept at blending into the european way of life. on air online live from our new center here in moscow this is the demonstrations in egypt against what is being seen as a dictator like power grab by the president showed no sign of ending over one hundred thousand people are calling on mohamed morsi to leave after he gave himself authority beyond reach of the courts when ati's bell truism capital we now know we've seen a lot of anger in the streets over the last few days but has there been any action on a more official level. yes there has been there we've had to the choir is made to cool the country's major chords the constitutional court and the appeals court say they are going to strike of course the judges themselves are also still on a partial strike the journey syndicates and now so who for strike two seeing really quite a lot o

there's an international criminal court, or there's an international criminal court, there's a global rule of law which is superior to national law. so i don't see anything superior to that, and i see -- liberty and consent, i'm basing this on the american founders, what do they see as most precious. going back to the declaration of independence and the constitution, our god, our rights come from god. they're divine, and these rights are protected by a form of government. so it could be a smaller form of government. but it would be some form of a state. i think that answered your question. i don't see anything in the modern world that actually has come up with something better than the nation-states. they could be smaller. >> time for about two more questions. possibly i'll add one. >> your short version as far as what should the -- [inaudible] we actually get from the united nations at this time. it seemed that jeane kirkpatrick to me seemed to look at things the right way. >> yes, i think she did. there's a new book by ken anderson on what u.s. policy toward the u.n. should be. we c

palestinians say they'll go to the international criminal court if it's confirmed that leader yasser arafat was poisoned at the state grade at the u.n. will help their calls. for terrorism evolved from scrambles to contain homegrown islamic radicals blending into the european way of life. on air online live from the new center here in moscow this is r.t. the demonstrations in egypt against what is being seen as a dictator like power grab by the president showed no sign of ending one hundred thousand people calling on mohammed morsi to leave after he gave himself authority beyond reach of the courts true is in the egyptian capital. had to kyra's major chords with the country's major chords the constitutional court and the appeals court say they are going to strike of course the judges themselves are also still on a partial strike the journalists in the case and their own so who first strike to seeing really quite a lot of movement that a major sectors within egypt society which the president is really going to have to do with as things escalate on the street as well fish caches do con

it would also mean the possibility of access to the international criminal court in the hague, but israelays the proposed resolution does not take its security requirements into account. the u.s. and several other countries plan to oppose the motion. germany and great britain will abstain, and that has caused disappointment. >> we would have preferred for the german vote to reflect public opinion that overwhelmingly supports the palestine request for upgraded status. >> germany's foreign minister describes it as a balanced and carefully considered decision and one that was not taken lightly. >> on the one hand, we see the palestinians justified desire for their own state, but on the other hand, we recognize our special responsibility to israel and for peaceful and stable development in the region. >> the palestinians are counting on a 2/3 majority to pass the vote with support from european countries like france and spain and many developing countries. >> for the very latest, let's bring in our correspondent who is standing by at the united nations in new york. what about these positions

to join the international criminal court and they are paying for members of the court to come here and meet with american judges. they see this as a long-term process. this is a long-term thing even after they die they hope this is a goal that they will someday reach and we should look at that in protecting the american republic and sometimes it is disturbing to people on our side that says, i mean those that would like to see the american republic survive as long as it possibly can. nothing is forever, so this republic is also not going to last forever. i don't know if that is true because we don't know the future and i will stick with john adams it's rare to last forever and i went to try to make it that way. [applause] >> you are watching book tv on c-span2. joining us now in the studio is malcolm, the founder and the chairman of the foundation of the american writers museum. very quickly, what is the american writers museum? >> the american writers museum may be a future home for book tv studio is among other things. but seriously, it can be a place where people will come and engag

the upgraded status from the united nations also grants the palestinians access to the international criminal court where they could file war crime charges against israel. >> the concern to the prosecutor of the international criminal court in the hague and make all kinds of charges against israeli officers never mind that they are baseless. >> reporter: the u.s. is standing with israel saying direct talks is the only way to achieve peace. >> today's unfortunate and counterproductive resolution places further obstacles in the path to peace. >> reporter: the palestinians say u.n. recognition of the 1967 borders is meant to salvage a peace deal not sabotage it. vinita nair for cbs news. >> coming up on the morning news, the latest on the record powerball jackpot and an early christmas for victims of hurricane sandy. santa claus comes to the east coast bearing $100 bills. this is the morning news. east coast bearing $100 bills. this is the morning news. new ba. [ male announcer ] it's the power of aspirin plus more in a triple action formula to relieve your tough migraines. new bayer migraine formula.

status at the un palestine can use their status to try to join the international criminal court this would allow them to press for investigations into israel's practices in the occupied territories the palestinians will also be able to seek membership in specialized agencies of the united nations and the u.s. has publicly threatened to cut off financing to international organizations that admit palestine as a member we should remind our viewers that back in two thousand and eleven the u.s. congress cut financing to unesco after it except that palestine was a member there is also a chance that another consequence could be that the u.s. cuts off its funding to the palestinian authority but of course a lot of. unfold throughout the day as more details are available on this course update our viewers. thank you leave. york. now hundreds of people flooded the streets of ramallah in support of the big submitted by authorities in the west bank the palestinian leadership is optimistic about the outcome despite strong opposition from the u.s. and the gaza based activist harry fear reports on w

the palestinian people with opportunities to use international organizations to like the international criminal court at the hague now this will allow palestinians to challenge the illegal settlements that are being built on palestinian territory in the west bank it will allow palestinians as a people to challenge israel's war crimes problem face the wall crimes committed in gaza for example so this is no small thing and although the i may be on various other places on the world at the moment as well as middle east palestine this is enormously symbolic and important and significant because if the palestinian people get this increased status this will be a really bad nisson change in the in the status of the israel palestine conflict we already know recently the palestinian leadership has said that if they get this increased status they will push forward and go to the international criminal court with respect to yasser arafat but allegedly being assassinated by israeli agents yes arafat one of the most symbolic and historically significant leaders of the palestinian people many people believe he was p

him as well that the palestinians will now use the new status to go for example to the international criminal court in the hague where they can accuse israel of alleged crimes and of course these kind of threats in the past has prevented some israeli lawmakers as well as many tributes from traveling abroad because there are concerned that could be arrested over such issues so united states through its unflinching support for israel has alienated a lot of its old time allies in the united nations susan rice the american ambassador to the united nations after slamming the vote again reiterated the american position that it will not change anything on the ground to a grand pronouncements. and the palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed today's vote should not be misconstrued by any as constituting eligibility for u.n. membership it does not this resolution does not establish that palestine is a state and yet talking to the average israeli on the street largely the response here is muted most israelis i've been talking to are actually by and large ign

and negotiations with israel not to mention boosting the country's chance to join the international criminal court which would give them the ability to investigate israeli war crimes and hold their government accountable yet israel and its biggest supporter the us are saying this is. horrible idea why well they said it was valid violate palestinians commitment to resolve issues through negotiations interesting because it seems to me that actually giving palestinians some kind of level playing field and giving them a voice would encourage them to come to the table because here's the bottom line the status quo was not acceptable and this bit represents the first step in the change needed to move forward so join me and let's break that set. up that were. never seen anything like. if you're wondering where i've been the last few days my producer and i just got back from haiti or went on a chartered plane with former u.s. president jimmy carter to help build houses for habitat for humanity now tomorrow i'm going to bring you all of our exclusive reporting from the country but first i want to talk about

that by recognizing a palestinian state, that also gives the palestinians access to the international criminal court. and mahmoud abbas pointedly used the phrase war crimes in his speech, an indication that palestinians may well try to bring war crimes charges against israeli generals, all politicians in the international criminal court. if that happens, it is very hard to see. prime minister netanyahu, mahmoud abbas or any of their under lings sitting down for any kind of peace negotiations that is the practical concern tonight, shep. >> shepard: jonathan hunt at the united nations for us. jonathan, thanks. you mentioned the israeli prime minister, well, he says if the palestinians want their own state, they have to first agree to certain conditions. first and foremost recognize israel as the jewish homeland. that's something the palestinians are not likely to agree to do any time soon. team fox coverage continues now. david lee miller live this evening in jerusalem. david lee? >> shepard, israeli reaction it was quick and by and large it was predictable. the office of the prime minister benjamin n

the international criminal court has issued an arrest warrant. she is wanted for alleged crimes against humanity following presidential elections in 2010. the egyptian president has issued a new constitutional declaration widening his powers. the presidential spokesman says they could not be appealed or revoked by any authority and has been made to protect them. >> ongoing clashes, demonstrations helped commemorate days of street fighting last november. they are part of wider malaise that -- from the egyptians that fought the government did not outline their country. the success of negotiations, how they were to make an important announcement. he gave a televised address, announcing sweeping new powers for the president. >> and the investigations and trials of all those that hold executive posts, the killing of protesters and any crimes that were committed against protesters will be open. >> in today's -- the days of mubarak, goes to replace him. ory can't be appealed cancelled, not even by the judiciary. the president take any measures he sees f

could allow the palestinians to bring war crimes accusations against israel before the international criminal court. this comes amid growing tenses following the eight day conflict teen israel and the militant group that runs part of the palestinian territory, hamas. the palestinians are saying this is long overdue. >>jonathan: morale, legally, and politically, long overdue in the eyes of palestinians. they say as you look at the general assembly at the diplomats gather, this is a necessary on the road to that well warn phrase "the two state solution." they claim this will strengthen the hand of the moderates among the palestinians. they mean president abbas' party in the face of the militant hamas who made gains in popularity in the wake of the recent conflict with israel. those moderate palestinians say this is an important part of any peace process. >> despite diminishing hopes to the situation on the ground we remain committed to the two-state solution and our hand is extended if peace. this is why we have embarked on peaceful, political initiative that would be considered by the john assembly

of those prefer some return to the international criminal court. it's a matter of record at the foreign secretary repeated today are country is a strong supporter of international justice and the international criminal court. it's also not of record record that israel is not a party to the icc treaty and no jurisdiction to the boundaries of israel. given as recently as two weeks ago urging israel to your two international law. can you explain why the u.k. government wishes to extend israel from possible actions in the icc for any future breaches of international law in this series. the second was to return without preconditions. only eight days ago they told the house going to be an acceptable settlement named in east jerusalem, we are not far from a two state solution becoming impossible and unviable. so eight days later to israel's refusal to suspend the expansion of the settlements, changing the very fact on the basis of negotiations come even if future talks get underway is a reasonable position. is it not the truth from the foreign secretary he

international criminal court where the palestinians could go after israeli soldiers or vice ver versae they have a final vote, richard, let us know. gaining status at the u.n. as a nonmember observer state gives the palestinians access to other important global organizations including as richard mentioned the international criminal court here in washington at the same time a bipartisan group of u.s. senators warned they might cut off u.s. aid to the palestinians if they were ever to use that access to make trouble for israel. listen to this. >> it won't be very long until the palestinians begin to use the u.n. as a club against israel rather than seeking peace. and our big fear is that the international criminal court would be available to the palestinians potentially to file complaints against the idf and every other institution in israel and would marginalize the jewish state. >> all right. let's discuss what's going on with the israeli ambassador to the united states michael oren. thanks for coming in. is this a big deal or little deal? i've heard from various israelis some say it'

for the purposes of pursuing other organizations within the united nations such as the international criminal court, in an attempt to try to delegitimize the state of israel or marginalize it, that there's a consequence in the congress of the united states that gives a significant amount of money to the palestinian authority. the problem with what i think is a reckless movement by president abbas is that when morning rises on the west bank, nothing will have changed as a result of the nonmember status that they acquired in the general assembly today. the general assembly was very hostile to the state of israel so nothing changes on the ground and the only way that we will get what we want, which is a two state, two people solution, is through a negotiated process. >> palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas says it's not about delegitimizing israel, it's about legitimizing a palestinian state. isn't this what everyone wants at the end of this very complicated, rather dangerous rainbow? >> it's interesting, in president abbas' remarks he never recognized israel as a jewish sovereign state. he n

one is the international criminal court in the hague. their goal then would be to take israel to that criminal court, accuse israel of war crimes and attempt to prosecute israeli leaders, political leaders, military leaders and then israel would find themselves very much on the defensive yet again in a united nations forum. that would help the process of delegitimizing israel in the eyes of the world, presenting israel as a criminal. that's an issue which is of great concern. >> the fact of the matter, that will only setback actual peace negotiations. martin fletcher in tel aviv. thank you. busy week for you. >>> up next, breaking with boehner. the first republican to endorse the president's version of a compromise on taxes to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. oklahoma congressman tom cole joins me next. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule. one big thing on the schedule today that everybody is fairly interested in. that's that lunch with mitt romney. we're told no cameras. we'll see. we of the white house press corps official

it will abstain, but would vote yes if the palestinians pledge not to try to join the international criminal court, and agree to return to negotiations without conditions. israeli government spokesman mark regev dismissed abbas's effort again today. >> this palestinian move at the it's not going to change anything on the ground. the only way to make life better for both israelis and palestinians is to solve the issues that separate us, it is through peace talks, direct peace talks, and we are ready. i frankly don't understand how the palestinians expect to make peace if they refuse to talk to us, only through direct peace talks can we solve the issues and make a better future. >> warner: for president abbas, the u.n. win could boost his standing, after the recent conflict in gaza bolstered hamas among palestinians and across the middle east. >> for more on the palestinian bid, i'm joined by david makovsky and gaith al-omari, executive director of the american task force on palestine. welcome back to both of you. let's start by explaining why is this such a big deal? you've got the u.s. vociferousl

i mean, palestinians joining the icc, international criminal court, will put pressure on israel. because whatever actions israel take from tomorrow, they will be held accountable to it. even the settlements, most controversial issue on the table between palestinian and israel is the growth of the settlement. half million israelis live between the west bank and jerusalem. they have actually from tomorrow to consider that these settlements are illegal, considered illegal by the international community and the icc will investigate this and might indict actually some israeli officials. it will change the dynamic. we need to empower our palestinian moderates and rally the palestinians around them. we can do that only if we give them something. some political commitment. >> in this case perception is reality when it comes to statehood. joel, are there any practical effects if the resolution is approved? >> there are no practical immediate effects. american law will not be triggered to cut off aid to the palestinians, for instance. so there is an opportunity to pivot from this. interest

but even more significantly for what it allows to happen at international criminal court.ent abbas now in the evil situation of trying to outdo hamas in his own way, is threatening to use the enhanced status to pursue these initiatives. >> that was senator chuck schumer speaking last hour with a bipartisan group of senators in just two 2 1/2 hours the u.n. set to recognize palestine as a state. while israel and the united states oppose the vote the palestinians are expected to receive overwhelming support in the general assembly. in europe several countries, including france, spain, denmark, have announced they will vote to approve palestine ace nonmember state. and in a blow to u.s. and israeli opposition, germany said this morning it will abstain rather than voting no. america's closest ally the united kingdom is expected to abstain. palestinians are also receiving support from israel's former prime minister, who hold "the daily beast," quote i believe the palestinian request from the u.n. is congruent with the basic concept of the two state solution. i see no reason to

agencies in action in the international criminal court. ur country is a strong supporter across all parties of international justice in criminal court. we would ultimately to see a palestinian state represented by all the organs of the united nations. however we judge that of the palestinians were to build on this resolution by pursuing icc jurisdiction over the occupy territories at this stage, it could make a return to negotiations impossible. this is extremely important, given that we see 2013 is a crucial year for the reasons i've describe for the middle east peace process. we have also said to president abbas i would like to see language in the resolution that does not prejudge and make clear that the resolution does not apply retrospectively. we believe these changes would not be difficult to make. that is maybe they're in the text of the resolution or in an accompanying statement as appropriate they would win wider support for the resolution without any prejudice to final status issues and that would increase the prospects for negoti