appearance this autumn in new zealand and we caught up with the secretary general of the international rugby board on a recent trip to moscow and he took time out to answer a few questions about the upcoming final. we've actually do. very well despite the economic downturn. ticket sales have been very good for rugby around the world governments want to invest in having big rugby tournaments in their countries because they see how beneficial it is there were three hundred fifty thousand visitors who came to france for rebel cup two thousand and seven will be about eighty five thousand coming to new zealand for a rule cup two thousand and eleven are also much cheaper to run as an event than the olympics or the fifa soccer world cup so yes of course the economic downturn affects everyone but not as much as perhaps other sports have been affected. we chose to world cups at the same time two fifteen which is in england and two nineteen which is in japan our process works extremely well you know rugby is a very clean sport we don't have issues that perhaps other sports might have so we're very happy wit