we're saying we need to go to interspace of brain research.moon shot, for today. >> reporter: just like that i was reminded what it must be like to be a kennedy. ♪ for the land of the free and the home of the brave ♪ >> what do you think he would say if he were here right now? as we walked through this monument to the president who sent men soaring to the moon, patrick got back to his father. >> he gave me an implicit message when he asked me to be around him at the end of his life. to spend time with him. at the end of the day, that's the only thing that mattered. he could have all the laws in the world, he could have all the accolades and words, but the only thing that mattered to him when he was alone at the end of his life was not being alone and being surrounded by the people he loved the most, who he knew loved him the most. not because he was a senator, but because he's a famous guy, but because he was our dad. >> reporter: it was obvious, the pain was still there. but then. >> can we go see where -- >> more than that. you can meet my f

. >> randy of interspace news for bill. as the shuttle program comes to an end this summer, will nasa continue to do space shuttle main engine research and development down at stennis? >> we don't have any plans to continue with main engine testing, but we are starting to test some of the new engines that are coming for the new program, the j2x engines. there's some turbo pumps and some other runs that are going to be done here, i think finish the next several months down at stennis in that area. so there's no planned ssmu work or shuttle main engine work, but there are some plans for the new hydrogen lock systems that we're planning for the future vehicles that are coming down the road. >> seth. >> seth bornstein, ap again. you mentioned 5 12 and 529, you said the first two were small losses prior to aerodynamic sensitive times. what time were those, and for mike moses, did i quite get you right? did you say you missed the launch, essentially? [laughter] >> the first loss was at 2:06, and it looked like it was on the ice f