know that some of those efforts may have major consequences for people who are looking into inveto fertilization? vice presidential candidate paul ryan sponsored a bill called h.r. 212, the sanctity of human life act. its main objective is to provide human life deemed to begin with fertilization. some fertility doctors say this could create human complications in the way they carry out ivf, in-vetro fertilization. they could end up charged with homicide if an embryo they create subsequently dies. we invited representative ryan and governor romney on the program to talk about this, they declined. they didn't want to talk about whether this is a fair concern. also i should point out governor romney has a personal stake in this issue, he has grand dstz children that were born through ivf and said he supported ivf in the past. back in january he stated that he believes life begins at conception. >> i was also a governor in a state where being pro-life was not easy. and i battled hard. what came to my desk was a piece of legislation that said we're going to redefine when life begins. in our state we

everything he voted for were law mitt romney's sons wouldn't have their kids because he is against inveto fertilization yeah, it would outlaw some forms of contraception along with invitro, and it's crazy radical right-wing. >> well, in 1950 they called it rock and roll. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: and -- and that's what they are doing. this argument was decided -- literally decided -- what 50 years ago? and they are still arguing about it? it doesn't make sense. it's like i'm saying they have stale arguments, and at some time you keep rolling it out enough, it can be the greatest idea in the world, but at some point in time it's going to get stale. >> stephanie: yep. i read a piece about a far right independent bid for president could tip virginia into virtual good. >> it's gude. you have to hear him talk like that. he has been all over the place. he used to be a democrat and then he screwed up and became a republican, and now he is screwing the republicans, but i'll tell you the kind of guy he is, and the stock he comes from. his daddy was a congressman down in the fifth district that's a very country

gay adoption in january 2011 days they took over the house, he said each live begins with fertilization. and invetooing to hell. [♪ magic wand ♪] >> if you are a rape ist looking to pick out your own baby momma, that is your guy. >> stephanie: oh, boy. resend all dollars for planned parenthood. he is vehement -- which already cannot be used for aborg. >> title 10. >> stephanie: what did i say? i did that thing again. >> title x-i-i-i. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: so there's no reason to even -- >> right. >> stephanie: okay. he's a vehement opponent of the obama administration that insurance plans must cover preventative services -- >> even the pope said last year it's okay to do that. >> stephanie: right. he voted for a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage, he voted to ban gay couples from adopting children. >> the pope was completely against the iraq war. guess who voted to fund that off of the books. >> stephanie: wa wa. so if he is so against contraception, where does he only have three children. [♪ dramatic music ♪] >> stephanie: that might have gummed up his career. >> that's the g