coming together of the people in charleston, the outpouring of love has been just inxre henceable forfrom here. and more importantly to hear the victims' families speak in such forgiving and loving terms to me is mind boggling. the hate that came into this city and did that act is foreign to charleston. i don't believe, i don't know white -- i know a lot of bad people. i was a defense lawyer and a prosecutor. i've seen a lot of horrible acts in charleston and i just don't think that is you know that is something that is part of charleston. >> for richard stony, the manifest toe along with the gallery of photos posing with confederate flags show a young man stuck in the wrong vision of the past. >> when you go online you can see pictures of him posing with the confederate flag. what do you think of that? >> as a southerner the confederate flag is such an emotional as a son of confederate war veterans, it's an emotional image because we all want to believe that the war was fought for reasons other than slavery when we all in reality and any student of history and anyone true to their he