companies you are affiliated with, i believe you are on their advisor committee, is a company called inzerohave a gadget which is a small computer. this is a different approach, this is fighting software demons with hardware. is that correct? >> that is a good way to characterize it. the next step to explain that would be that this is a technology in which there is a separate computer standing between your computer and the internet. anything that comes in or goes out, goes through this level computer. >it is like a sandbox in which there is no attraction for malicious software. there are complications inside but the principle is that when the software comes in and tries to instruct your computer to do certain things and take your data and send it somewhere, this computer does not listen. it reports the instruction but it does not listen. it does not respond to it. >> where was this developed? >> a scientist in the ukraine came to the united states about eight years ago with the idea that we were going the wrong way. everybody is worried about software and protection on the internet but you