varoshilov, in liberated ukraine, they are sitting and he says, kliment efremovich, that you , iosifarionovichsomehow there were different events before the war, he says: you know, alexander mikhailovich, and iosifarionovich became different, and the soviet union became different, here the soviet union in forty-first year was one, in forty-fifth year it was already another soviet. a brilliant political theory of people's democracy was born, which was implemented in eastern europe and in the people's republic of china the republic still exists. this political model has largely become a product of rethinking some political practices. and there are many such examples. it is not only the state defense committee, it is not only smersh, it is a lot that has been done. without such conclusions, political, ideological, which manifest themselves in vivid forms, like... without such rethinking, to achieve a genuine victory, be it on the battlefield, in diplomatic negotiations, i am sure that both will happen, well, it is simply impossible, these are the conclusions we should make now, i agree. it is use

difficult say something about this, i want to remind, here vadim, how correctly he remembered iosifarionovichnt to remind the munich conspiracy, well, probably pavel, or pavel should remember well that when in september 1938, france, germany, italy and great britain gathered in munich in order to discuss all these issues, then czechoslovakia was not even allowed into the meeting room. they sat like slaves somewhere there, then after that, when churchill said, not churchill, but chamberlain, he said: "well, we will give up the judges and let hitler take it, and mr. pavel studies in great britain and they are his own, he doesn't care at all. i want to remind you that in 1945, keitel, who was tried at the nurwerd trial, feldmarschall keitel, they asked him, well , if you had attacked, then you would have taken the sudetenland, if the western countries had united and not given it." this was together with the soviet union, but we would never have done that, we were still weak, our task was to take as much as possible with the tacit consent of the western countries, so that we could then get away w