but at the same time you mentioned the ipcc came into came being so that that was in nature way it was set of cause a lot of challenges didn't they. you just describe it that also. right. right. i mean the ipcc was formed i think 88 and the first report was in 1990 and it was meant to be, you know, the assessment of the best science. but they brought into the tent policy makers, government representatives and which in a group which included a lot of people who had no interest in taking action, climate change and so. well the chapters of these early reports reflected the state of art science at the time to, to a large degree, the summaries introduce, all sorts of hedges and things that made them the most bland reading could imagine. and the problem that was, once again, those who would delay action took it and run with it. i'll give you an example. an economist named william nordhaus is trying to model the economic costs of climate change, and he was using the ipcc and so he took one one thing, which was that the statement of thermal inertia. the oceans was going to dampen any signal of

ipcc. don't you think it's time they administration has an honest conversation on spending trillions of dollars, and ideas that according to the u.n. ipcc aren't working? >> thank, you congresswoman. i certainly do. i see a sound and serious climate policy as having a foundation, like a house has a foundation. and the quality of the foundation will determine whether the house is safe to build in and live in and so forth. the foundation ought to be de-politicized, a transmission of science to not experts like all of us. the concern with the ipcc reports, and the summary for policymakers, is that folks who are decoding the complicated climate science and explaining it to all of us are government officials. they don't have the rigorous peer review and requirements to be transparent like you do with actual climate science. i respectfully suggest that perhaps your side of the aisle, make it very clear, you embrace climate science, the problem is not climate science. it's how it's transmitted to

nevertheless nasa the ipcc put out these projections with great confidence. all right. we shall see. let me turn to weather extremes a bit. brought in the media over the last summer. historic heat waves in the northwest virtually impossible without human caused changes said cnn european floods were invoked the latest sign of global warming the climate connection behind deadly downpours around the world fires floods dead fish climate change fuels extreme weather. with no return to normal said the new york times and maybe the best one from other boston globe. welcome to the climate apocalypse. it's going to get worse. well, i want to talk about extremes. and a reminder that climate plays out over decades and to do that. i want to talk about denial. not climate denial, but denial river. so there's a map of cairo and in the manure cairo in the middle of the river is, rhode island. and at the southern tip of rhode island the medieval egyptians built a structure called a nihilometer. with a measured the height of the nile river was very important to them as you might imagine.

i think that anybody who challenges the work , the ipcc and the work of work, the ipcc and the work ofis on the hiding from nothing. i'm not going to be rude. i will be rude. you can be my opinion. we're going to be invite people to go and look at the facts and that's certainly finished. i'm saying it just has to be in control. vertebral now that these challenges are out there. i'm not saying there aren't difficulties in them. and you rightly pointed out the electric is a real problem . is a real is a real problem. is a real problem, but that doesn't mean that the whole of our efforts in energy and in other sectors need not begin to try and meeting their targets. finally it's you. who, me ? it's clear if you just who, me? it's clear if you just look at what the ipcc says that the basis of their advice , our the basis of their advice, our government, the policy guidelines we signed up to accept, which is excuse for doing everything. stanley is talking, are wrong. nothing i predict it has actually happened . it's as simple as that. so with regard to energy and owning the means of product

transmission of science to nonexperts like all of us, the concern with the ipcc reports, the folks whoare decoding the complicated climate science and explaining it to all of us are government officials and they don't have the rigorous peer review and requirements to be transparent like you do in actual climate science. i respectfully suggest your side of the aisle, make it clear, you embrace climate science, the problem is not climate science but how it is transmitted to the rest of us because it is pre-complicated in these ipcc reports. and let's have reforms to make sure it is honest, peer-reviewed, good foundation upon which to debate sound policies to address the problem. >> fantastic. and 13 seconds i have left, thank you for being here once again and telling us, representing low income communities and minority communities and speaking up and i yield back. >> the gentlewoman yields back, the chair now recognizes mr. soto from florida. >> there are a few elements in the room worth mentioning. the washington post reports today oil companies post record smashing profits as gas price

we know that data was rigged and they knew it the to this is that the global warming community the ipcc knows their science is fragile they know it is completely distorted and for instance, the last point i would make on i agree with mark, we've got to fight fundamental premises. i just wrote an article in the american thinker on this hurricane that just occurred in in florida because, again, michael mann was out there saying this is climate change, global warming, well, in fact, even on the noah website, which our, you know, astronomical basically measuring all the weather media all this has a long article will probably be taken after i wrote about it. i made sure to capture it. so i proof what he wrote is that there is no proof. there is evidence which would link hurricanes with carbon dioxide that the argument is just not enough of it and it is the power is not sufficient. the last point i want to make is people need to understand that the function of the weather is to distribute heat, the nature of the earth's tilt. the sun hits us at the and so the is blessed with this on which we

the ipcc see or with thoughts? the ipcc see or with ms. bully's family and with friends at this .ed into nicola bulley stress. the coroner revealing that she was identified dental records, but not else really at this very stage, you know? yeah the process. but yeah, i'm absolute tragedy. mark, thank very much indeed. let's return to the news that broke earlier about shamima baig, who's lost the appeal against being stripped of her british citizenship. that's getting more reaction steve getting more reaction with steve valdez , who's a refugee and valdez, who's a refugee and asylum director with amnesty international. steve, thanks for joining once more. do you think that's the end of the process ? that's the end of the process? well it certainly doesn't look like it . my well it certainly doesn't look like it. my understanding is the lawyers have it very clear that they intend to seek permission to appeal on all, presumably of more grounds against this . so more grounds against this. so they may well be much more to come. and the real issue about whether the propriety of stripping

country length and breadth the country who reported matters to the who have reported matters to the ipcc very unsatisfied conclusions to those . so i'm not conclusions to those. so i'm not that at all. donna to point out that at all. donna to point out that she's a politician and, of course, a politician , a policy course, a politician, a policy that used to claim be the party of law and order. well, that, of course, sadly now is laughable. the only way the policing is going to get out of this crisis and try and regain trust and is by looking itself in the mirror, accepting when it's wrong , as accepting when it's wrong, as opposed to being forced to admit things are wrong. i'm being truthful though and at the moment we're a long long way away from that with too police services in the country. i'll give you the last word . well, give you the last word. well, you know , peter calls me you know, peter calls me a politician. we're both here on tv giving our opinions. the difference between me and peter is, is that i have a legal mandate to do this because i've been elected by 2 million peop