so, just yesterday, smaller distribution arm, ipg, announced that publishers they work with will also make their ebooks available drm free. so the bottom line is while publishers fear piracy, they feel that drm is not necessarily the answer in terms of tackling piracy. it's more important to create awareness as to why people should be buying books legally. i'll give you one last example of this and it comes in the first of jk rowling's book. she had never sold a digital rights to her main publishers,; always hung on the them, and last year she launched a multimedia platform and web site called paddermore, which is creating a larger world around the books. the other thing is padermor is the exclusive retailer for harry potter books, and customer can go to pottermoore or your favorite etailer, like amazon.com, and they'll redirect to pottermore, customers can buy it there and read on whatever device they choose. so they're drm-free. >> this is becoming a trend. >> guest: it appears to be. >> host: industry-wide. >> guest: that is hard to say. everybody is waiting on everybody else to se

>> well, ipg i think the obama campaign does see this as a winning issue.industry employees about 6 to 7,000 people here in iowa, this is something this community cares a lot about. president obama talked earlier today, pressed congress to extend a tax break for companies -- >> just want to let our viewers -- >> he got a lot of cheers, hammered romney for his opposition to that tax credit. in the meantime, you have mitt romney speaking in iowa today h hammering president obama for some of his regulatory policies, making the case that has harmed the coal mining industry, so energy rielle a big topic of conversation. >> and we've got live pictures here of president obama at a wind farm, as you can see clearly behind him and obviously, you know, kristen, clearly one of the reasons, as you mentioned, you have governor romney in ohio talking about coal. but also, governor romney has said he opposed those wind energy tax credits that are so popular in places like iowa and other parts throughout the west, which is part of the obama team strategy. >> reporter: abso

because a sign like that isn't going to cause the criminal to say, look, ipg ni'm not going t attackerson there. the sign draws him in because he knows you won't have to worry about somebody stopping. we put those signs up all over those place. not in front of your home. you'd never do it in front of your home. >> bernard, let me ask you to respond to that. if you -- if the laws change and guns weren't available, do you agree with the principle people would find another way to get them or would demand drop? >> well, in the united states, these gun control laws are the first federal laws were the result of the valentine's day massacre 1933. there are two sets of laws. one requires absolute registration such as machine guns. in one of the norm aal commerce part one firearms do not. in the united states today you also have a gray market that is created by the transaction of guns that take place after the legitimate industry. this is a major social issue for this country. >> yes. >> and there's a lot of self-responsibility issues when it comes to firearms ownership and use. >> a lot peop

you declined the administration's request to serve on the oversight board when it would replace the ipg office into question. >> i understood the appearance of a conflict of interest but the department was responding to a crisis. i did not feel it appropriate to say standby. >> we have a short time. but by your own bid mission and you were unfamiliar with the details and you wanted to be involved was to bring yourself up to date? >> i participated in an informational meeting that you did not know anything about yet you were a excepting the policy position within the administration. >> i did not participate in policy decisions. >> it is a policy board. >> no. to bring the safety recommendations. >> that is policy. that is policy. given example of prior times when ig's have participated in policy groups? >> i do not have been example. ig became the most effective tool because of my participation with the outer continental shelf with the board report. >> exactly. that is the point*. you were working side-by-side. you are working on policy. there were questions raised on the summary conside