remember last year, iphoto, celebrities. they posted their photo on iphoto believing they had some security and privacy and found that apple messed up. i mean, they can read the 87th page license agreement, but all it will say is you have to trust us and if we are lying to you, well, sorry it's just business. there are things we can do any of my book i talk about it, but it's largely around the edges because it's so much out of our control. this is why i really believe we need government solutions, regulation because this deals a lot like food safety. in should use a refrigerator, but if you have the peanut butter that has salmonella in it when you buy at there's nothing you can do. it also has to do with expectations, so given that we live in this semi- virtual but very real spiritual world and we get a lot of benefits from that as bruce and others have suggested. and this goes back to the point about resilience. you have to accept and expect some degree of infringement upon a. so, this is where bruce and i have different t

remember last year, iphotos and celebrities. they found that apple messed up.they could read the 87-page license agreement. you to trust us, and if we are lying to you, sorry, it was just business. there's things we can do. it's largely around the edges. it's so much out of our control. this is why i really need government solutions, regulations. this is feeling a lot like food safety. yes, you should use the refrigerator. >> also has to do with expectations. given that we live in semivirtual, go to the point about resilience. you have to expect some infringement on that. i assume that the nsa read all my emails and i don't particularly care. >> i hope you entertain them. >> it's much more my colleagues reading my emails. >> she's going to isis website. [laughter] >> i should say we are at a book festival and jessica tap in for a second, all three of you have managed to write mainstreamed books about either a very scary or technical thing to audiences that aren't necessarily in the field 24/7, but you in particular sort of engaged the enemy. can you just spend