iran hasn't taken as iran the netanyahu government is engaging in demagoguery. also the former head of my degen has said very clearly that iran hasn't taken that step but then sanctions need to be applied and iran i think they're having an effect we've seen some of the most frankly reactionary elements in the iranian regime people like cosmos idea c.d.p. who is the i want to cry friday prayer leaders who actually link to the bad job of women in the rain and women to said quite frankly that sanctions need to be lifted i live in a bridge area the who is the head of the parliamentary commission of national security and foreign policy has also said that sanctions need to be lifted and i also think there was this rumor which i jolly implored. cathy ashton saying that we need to basically need to lift sanctions or give us sanctions relief so i also think the iranians might have made a mistake and they basically showed their hand too quickly to the europeans or most of the other member of the p five plus one and this is why there have been less forthcoming with sanctio

iran such a plan and iran rejected because his own factional sort of infighting now in the equation is changing obviously iran is continuing apace to expand its program program and i think the united states and i think the west in the members of the p five plus one have to some extent realize that i do think if the talks did break down there is going to be a splintering of the p five plus one because that for the united states unilaterally pursuit of sanctions i can't see either russia or china being very willing or accommodating to increase basically the pressure and tighten the screws even further even though it has clearly shown that he's very committed to their children policy which involves the application of sanctions will never lead showing a readiness for the carrots and sticks as if i can go to use it is this just a plan to fail did they do that does the west want this these talks to fail to show we went the extra mile away try and we tried to deal with them but you can't negotiate with the iranians the kind of the typical thing you hear in western media . i think no i think w

not the natural iran company. i think it's fair to say that we are going to be very skeptical about efforts to develop a alternative payment mechanisms premised on the fact that under iranian law, it says that all revenues earned by any government ministry have to be paid to this central bank of iran and the oil resources are owned by the national iranian oil company, so i think our presumption going in is that anyone buying oil from iran is ultima ultimately paying the central bank of iran for that oil even if there is some intermediate step along the way. so we are going to be quite skeptical of efforts to pay, purport to pay other than the central bank of iran for iranian oil. >> that's an important point because you're signalling a max mallist interpretation of the strictures and you're going to be looking at attempts to evade it. >> i don't know if it's max mallist or applying law, anyone who makes a knowing transaction with the central bank of iran for iranian oil is subject to sanctions. we have made clear

iran. the sanctions are having an impact. but some iranian companies are finding ways to get around them. nhk world shows us how. >> reporter: one of the largest oil exhibitions in middle east was held in tehran in april. despite eminent new sanctions, iran remains bullish, as eager as ever to promote its abundant oil reserves. >> translator: iran has one of the world's largest reserves of oil and natural gas. we are ready to sign contracts with many foreign firms at the event. >> reporter: but moves to slap new sanctions on iran are making some of the exhibiters nervous. >> translator: we can't respond to interviews. it's our head office policy. >> reporter: the iranian economy is already feeling the effects of western sanctions. prices of goods, mainly imports, have more than doubled. >> translator: amid inflation, prices are soaring. it's really tough. >> reporter: for years, iran has secured shipping routes with its trading partners by using dubai located across the persian gulf as a tr

so if assad falls, that will be bad for iran. iran will be entirely isolated in the region. that seems to me to be a unique confluence of our moral interests and our national interests to isolate iran. how do we do it? well, those are the kind of thing has get disgusted ad nauseum in washington. i'll give you three short bullet points not involving boots on the ground in much the same way we helped nato and libya which did not involve a confluence of national and moral interests, but just moral interests. we can help organize the syrian opposition. we can stop talking about the sear began opposition as if they were crap. we can bring them together. we can help them create constitution, we can help them form a transitional government, we can form safe haven, can he with protect safe hey rens, safety corridors. those things aren't terribly difficult. do we run risks? yes. on the other hand, these are all eminently doable things for the united states and if they weren't, by the way, you should be very worried because about we can't take on the syrian medical taker, i don't know

so obvious see disagreement in the israeli political when the issue of iran is of great importance i think that. if there is determination and resolve and persistence in the world that is interesting here we feel a very broad coalition unprecedented abroad all the arab world but syria. most of the west i believe other countries were russia was on it two years ago in the u.n. security council we think you have enough leverage all of us together to condition very dangerous behavior and higher price with every month that passes if you don't stop this. attempt to get nuclear but none of the rounds critics including israel have given hard facts that prove that iran's intention is to build a nuclear weapon or that it iran is in a way near building a nuclear weapon so why is this so much fear and concern first of all that iran wants to have a nuclear weapons we have no doubt i think that the international atomic energy agency in. published a report last november third of the head a weapons group the describe the weapons to approach worked why do we take it seriously they really do ship. the

iran. we have seen this combined effort of our authorities and working with the international community, and i cannot overstate the importance of the -- the effect that we are able to generate when we have our international partners working with us, with the eu working with us, japan, south korea, australia, switzerland, i mean, you name it, we have a -- and the united nations as well. a very, very broad-based coalition of countries, not doing exactly the same thing, but all pushing in the same direction of applying pressure on iran really as part of this dual track strategy and, you know, the impact of that that we have seen particularly sort of through the fall of last year and into the spring of this year is, really, you know, a very significant deterioration in the iranian economy. the value of their currency that real has dropped like a rock, and that has, you know, significant impact on iran's ability to the, you know, pay for the material that it needs for its nuclear program and mor

trying as much as we can with the rest of the world there with her to stop iran from becoming nuclear and yet today has been a lot of war with craig much of israel's political leadership but on the other hand people like yourself have come on record and said that you will not support a war with iran so i always see disagreement in the israeli political when the issue of iran is of great importance i think that. if there is determination. resource and persistence in the word that is interesting here we feel a very broad coalition unprecedentedly broad all the arab world but syria. most of the west i believe other countries will russia was on it two years ago in the un security council we i think have enough leverage all of us together to condition the rain's going to be heavier and higher price with every month that passes if we don't stop this. attempt to get nuclear but none of the rands critics including as well have given hard facts that prove that iran's intention is to build a nuclear weapon or that it iran is in a way near building a nuclear weapon so why is this so much fear an

and iran than it is the europeans and the asian countries in iran. point two would be, i share elliot's -- let me just say one more thing. if anyone knows under secretary of state wendy sherman, they would know she is tough, she is very smart, and i think she is a perfect choice to lead these negotiations. the second point, i think the p-5 is a patio tension problem here. in two respects. one i share he will lots, and here's where i agree, doubt that president francois hollande was the steal in the p-5 plus one. china is a major problem. the letter of the law -- the security council resolutions, but they become iran's lead trade partner, subverting the sanctions on a de facto basis. the key country might be russia. russia does not. to see iran go nuclear, russia is closer geographically than anybody else. russia has influence. and i would hope that president obama would work with president putin to see if president putin could be a partner in trying to isolate the iranians and convince the iranians they've got to turn towards a diplomatic agreement o

so if assad falls, that will be bad for iran. iran will be entirely isolated in the region. that seems to me to be a unique confluence of our moral interests and our national interests to isolate iran. how do we do it? well, those are the kind of things that get discussed ad nauseum in washington. i'll give you three short bullet points not involving boots on the ground in much the same way we helped nato in libya, which by the way did not involve a confruns have national and moral interests but just a moral interest that at the time seemed more attractive to the president than apparently the moral interest of syria at this moment. we can help organize the syrian opposition. we can stop talking about the syrian opposition as if they were crap. we can bring them together. we can help them create constitution, we can help them form a transitional government, we can form safe havens, we can protect safe havens, we can protect safety core douridors f people seeking to escape bombardment. those things aren't terribly difficult. do we run risks? yes. on the other hand, these are a

of iran and the axis that was built. between iran syria and hizbollah unholy alliance so they call it this is a very bad axis very dangerous axis. against us against all the arab countries. in that respect this alliance between syria and iran is broken this is good for peace for better peace except for more fundamentalist regime comes to power in syria. i don't know who comes next we have no influence on that. in a productive way for support somebody maybe it was the treatment because the best thing for somebody would be to we fight the jews so we're not taking part in that what about israeli egyptian relations particularly in light of the terminations of the gas deal see the egyptian israeli peace treaty that has been fined thirty two years ago and is that the three years ago in seventy nine was the most important dramatic change in middle east history changed at least from a very warlike zone to a much more stable and peaceful area so whoever is in power in egypt after next presidential election we very much hope that

is prepared right now to use military force on iran if it needs to to prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons that announcement comes on the heels of a series of meetings scheduled between iran and six world powers united states france russia china britain and germany well the u.n. has already implemented four rounds of crippling sanctions against iran with another round set to go into effect this summer they're hoping to persuade iran to stop its uranium enrichment program entirely today's announcement seems to be another warning lights to iran that the u.s. and israel aren't messing around here to discuss this is lawrence wilkerson retired united states army colonel and a former chief of staff to colonel. colin powell excuse me colonel wilkerson thanks so much for being on the show and i guess i want to ask you i thought today's announcement sort of in two different ways i thought on one hand as being sort of a warning to iran on the heels of these talks and on the other hand of being sort of a nudge to israel by the way we're still your loyal friend how did you see this hope that's

our next hour we discuss the tactics being used against another so-called rogue state out of iran the exclusive interview now with the deputy prime minister of israel. with me i have dan meridor the deputy israeli prime minister and minister of intelligence and atomic energy so thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. to be with you the million dollar question is israel preparing for war with iran the one thing we should not speak on of war with iran i don't think the word from the one discusses in good families in public i think it's wrong hearing an issue is the most important issue we're dealing with the nuclearization of iran becomes the most important issue of international politics we are. trying as much as we can with the rest of the world i would say to stop iran from becoming nuclear and yet there has been a lot of war with craig from much of israel's political leadership but on the other hand people like yourself have come on record and said that you will not support a war with iran so obvious see disagreement in the israeli political when the issue of iran is of grea

only one that is iran. if they choose to base the policy on the fact that the costs of acquisition of a weapon are prohibited, 2011-2012 there will be no war, no deal. this is a to 13 problem. and ultimately it will be a problem with the united states fundamentally is going to have to wrestle with. syria, the situation there will continue until two things occur. number one, the russians can be dissuaded from their policy of backing -- and there would be some fundamental change on the ground. right now you don't even have a hurting stalemate. you have a situation where the regime still controls the issuance of state power. the opposition will not break but neither can it cause the regime to break. now what to do about this. this of course is the great co-none drum. what do we do? here again i am a believer. in the united states determines that it is in its vital national interest to remove this regime, then it should act comprehensively and decisively in an effort to do it. if it does not believe it it is in

>> guest: i was born in iran. my parents devoted everything they had to the education of their children. a semi from grade school through high school. i was raised part of my years in iran by catholic nuns. >> host: in french? >> guest: in french. we had a wonderful coeducational school. it was run by nuns. >> host: were your parents will be? >> guest: not excessively rich, but they were part of the upper-middle-class. >> host: would you consider your family to be a secular family or a devout family? >> guest: i would say life has opposites. divisions don't mean much to me. my parents, they were muslim. my mother was not a practicing muslim. she prayed, she tested. she fasted. i consider myself a staple of women's studies, and i would say my first teacher was my mother. >> host: when did you come to see the united states? where did you go to university? >> guest: i arrived in the united states of america on december 17, 1967. i went to cal state in california where i earned a bachelor's degree of arts in french li

iran was. ordered by the security council not to enrich and they go rushing along with the united states is building a missile defense shield in the persian gulf what would be the purpose of this if israel had to attack you when they want speak of an attack on iran israel and i'm not a spokesman for the american. the american defense establishment the american president but it's interesting that the americans and the arab countries are in full agreement about the development in iran and that it needs to be stopped israel preparing for any rain attack or some kind of way in retaliation needs to defend itself is never ask anybody to defend it is a living in area in which there were many enemies i think that we see very positive trend of arab countries leaving the camp of. denial negation and coming to the good guys came by presidents about signing peace with us king hussein of jordan saying peace the people who became buddhas after them kept the agreement we wish and hope it would be kept longer

and that hurts iran and iran wants them stopped. but in general the powers are agreed on the tactics for now. there's always a risk they may come apart later but in the years of this six-power talks they've been able to agree on how to deal with each meeting and they certainly agree on their goal which is to try to ensuring that iran does not have a military nuclear program >> woodruff: steven erlanger with the "new york times," we thank you for taking time to talk with us. >> thank you. >> brown: margaret warner takes the story from there. >> warner: what to make of today's developments and the prospects for resolving the standoff over iran's nuclear program? for that, i'm joined by suzanne maloney, who dealt with iran issues at the u.s. state department in 2005 to 2007. she's now a senior fellow at the brookings institution. and seyed hossein mousavian, a former iranian diplomat. he was on the nuclear negotiating team that agreed to suspend enrichment in 2003-- a deal later repudiated by tehran. he charged with espionage in 2007,

iran would suspend its enrichment. that would be a very strong indication that iran was serious. i doubt that iran will agree to that. third, and i think steve is right to be concerned. where is the potential deal here between 0 and 3.5? will iran be willing to agree to intrusive 24/7 iaea inspections? they haven't been? iaea inspectors haven't been in the plant, the one that president obama revealed publicly in autumn of 2009, and iran has been playing fast and loose. i think the administration is going to play on all three of the counts, i think. how much they'll get is uncertain. >> i would just add, i think the inspection point is important. it looks as if the iranians are going to give up on keeping the iaea out, because there is indication they're cleaning the place up. but intrusive inspections, signing additional protocol would be key signs that iran is actually stopping. >> let me understand one point. there is no doubt in my mind there is a difference between doing a whole deal and an interim step. one of the reasons you would still accept an interim step is because the

policy of an iran nuclear program. efforts to misrepresent this resolution distracts from the real problem, which is the increasing threat posed by iran's nuclear program and the need to prevent iran from obtaining nuclear weapons capability. tehran has lied to the world about its secret nuclear activities and has violated international nonproliferation obligations and has repeatedly threatened to destroy our ally israel. just earlier this year, it was said that this cancer, israel, must be destroyed in the region and this will without doubt come to fruition. it is clear that iran cannot be trusted with uranium enrichment or any component of the nuclear program, even the u.n. security council resolutions have demanded that iran stop all uranium enrichment. unless compelled to change course, iran will soon have all of the basic components or capabilities to produce a nuclear weapon. the only thing that will be left for them to do will be to put the pieces together. according to the international atomic energy agency, ir

reasons not to attack iran many reasons not to attack iran. the real question is whether the reasons to outweigh the reasons not to. and that's a very difficult c calcul calculus. i do want to, though, make a little bit of an objection to this formula of wars of discretion, wars of choice, and wars of necessity. all wars are wars of choice. the notion that somehow if you're attacked you need to retaliate doesn't seem to me to be correct, nor does it seem that somehow the legitimacy of a conflict should only derive from an attack on your soil. if a leader is not responsible for protecting his own people from an attack rather than after an attack, i don't know what a leader is good for. but that's just me. [ applause ] >> any further rebuttals you have, let's wrap them into answers to the audience because they've been anxious issue lly . usually we have people lineded up by the microphones. go ahead. >> steve daniels, florida region. how do you think the administration is analyzing the analogies and differences between the libya situation and th

and sought refuge under saddam and actually fought under saddam hussein against iran in the iran iraq war since then once the u.s. went in you know toppled saddam they've been in a camp camp ashraf and have been fighting to basically get taken off the terrorist list they're committed to toppling the government in iran so that they can install their own leadership and sort of live out the dream that they had in one thousand nine hundred ninety of ruling over iran so we now know there are no longer terrorists in the eyes of the united states aren't that's what the pi shows so who exactly is behind this push to delist the group well here's the funny thing they're not necessarily considered to have given up their terrorist activities u.s. officials have actually gone off the record and said that it was behind some of the assassinations of iranian scientists and professors that have occurred in recent years so if they make a was behind you know putting these bombs on cars and delivering bombs we have motorcycles it sounds like terrorism and there's an acknowledgment that that's the case bu

that iran rejected a couple of years ago. i think because the europeans and the obama administration understand that patience is wearing thin in israel, and, that this pretext that negotiation is actually bringing us closer to a real solution, a real solution being the end of the iranian nuclear weapons program is just not sustainable. >> eric: prime minister netanyahu says he doesn't think iran is serious and let's look at the remarks of the u.s. ambassador to israel who made these remarks last tuesday, dan shapiro said the following, addressing a business group in israel and he said: it would be preferable to resolve this diplomatically and through the use of pressure rather than use of military force but that doesn't mean that option is not fully available. and it's not just available, but it is ready. the necessary planning has been done to ensure that it is ready. what do you make of this, the u.s. ambassador says everything is ready for potential military strike. >> two things. one, our military has plans for almost eve

oh, did they tell you it was going to iran?> they said it was going to malaysian telekom. >> did that make any sense? >> yeah, actually it's a reasonable request. >> so she sold it for $95,000, and off it went to kuala lumpur. we know actually from the indictment of mr. kakavand that he had arranged for your product to be flown via iran air. >> [chuckling] >> right into tehran. do you know even know who the actual recipient of it was? >> in the indictments, there were two companies listed. one of them is-- does deal with electro-optical equipment. >> and also weapons of mass destruction. >> of course. >> that company is a subsidiary of iran electronics industries, a contractor that makes weapons and communication systems for the iranian military. seems like an open-and-shut case against kakavand, but it isn't. >> nowhere else in the world this is considered as a crime. nowhere else except in the united states. >> diane francois is kakavand's lawyer in paris, where he's fighting his extradition to the u.s. she explains that in e

on iran over its controversial nuclear program the west believes obviously that iran is developing nuclear weapons and iran has maintained that it has a peaceful nuclear program india along with several other countries like china japan and south korea aren't following on the fiction they actually have been through those four countries account or sixty percent of iran oil customers so a lot of people are saying that things aren't going to work unless washington can get these asian countries on board here with me to talk more about hillary clinton's visit and the issue on iran with washington if professor k.p. me if you can first of all explain to me why you think this has become such a contentious issue between washington and delhi and we even had president obama saying that countries that continue to engage with iran and by iranian oil could

which is iran. no bigger priority for ajc preventing iran from obtaining nuclear weapons availability, how do you judge the president's record on this matter and how would a republican approach differ? let me start with you, bill. >> last word is always better. >> you are being so nice. >> a question of friends. i think there has been a great deal of continuity here. with regard to -- the iranian and north korean situations. it is very frustrating. and you know, one of the things that we, one of great frustrations to me is that -- we tend to be self-critical in america, we should be, and the unwillingness of russia and china to be more supportive of efforts to block nuclear weapons. i don't fully understand it. if i was russia living next door to iran the notion of some of these craze xwrem havipeople ha nuclear weapons would make me more nervous. that is a frustration. and constraint on our approximately see that we have to deal with. given that, i believe that what we have been doing is, is, the b

the first meeting over a year of the five plus one group with iran on the islamic republic's nuclear ambitions as an broadly breakthrough but there has been agreement hold a second round of talks here in moscow in june west their voice offered around much needed aircraft maintenance and nuclear safety cooperation in return for to round hole to higher grade nuclear enrichment now iran offered u.n. inspectors visits to a military complex that suspected of carrying out nuclear tests but the west has refused to budge over in a new sanctions that will hit all exports the country's main source of income of course iran says more restrictions won't make it yield on its nuclear program which he claims is still is only for peaceful energy and research purposes let's get more on this from political consultant daniel wagner is head of the advisory firm country recently he's on the line from new york tonight very good to see you so the daniel no solution again on iran's nuclear issue the top continue next you think we'll be able to avoid an impending set of sanctions by july will open up its faci

this missile defense is presumably to deal with iran. iran does not have an icbm now. there is considerable question as to whether they could or would produce some. and if they were, they would have to have a nuclear weapon, unless they're going to deliver marshmallows to the east coast. so we need to be very careful how we spend our money. it's been very, very clear from this administration that iran will not be able to build a nuclear weapon. so they don't have a weapon, and they don't have a missile. so why are we spending at least $5 billion on a system that in and of itself is questionable? clearly, if we're going to spend money, we ought to make sure the technology works. some questions about whether this technology would work against a sophisticated icbm. the indication it does not work against a sophisticated ibm that has multiple warheads an multiple decoy. we need to get the technology right before we spend the money. my amendment would say we can move forward with some planning, and that's it. but the decision about deploying a missile defense system on the

here's what iran's president ahmadinejad said about sanctions to iran's parliament late last year. this is the guy who a year before had told the same audience that western sanctions were a hanky that he blows his nose in. this is -- he's not exactly a refined guy. but anyway, this is what he said much more recently. the west has imposed the most extensive and dastardly sanctions ever. every day our banking agreements and transactions are being monitored and blocked. this is the heaviest economic onslaught on a nation in history. that's ahmadinejad. now the purpose of this pressure is not punishment. it's not what we're trying to do. it is to convince iran that the price to be paid for pursuing a nuclear weapons capability is just too high and the time is now to make good on its commitment to the international community. but iran's leadership have no doubt about the resolve of the united states or about israel's sovereign right to defend itself. as the president has said, we take no options off the table. of course, iran's nuclear program is not the only regional issue that is of c

iran. have never let a foreign power determine. through invasion determine what the outcome is going to be now they do have experience with the united states having overthrown most deck and installed the shah. that set the stage for a very troubled period in dealing with iran the people of iran are very concerned when their nuclear scientists are sas unaided how does that happen who's doing it is this a decision is being made in high ranks of government. so we should forget about trying to conquer other countries that's an auld model that's old thinking from hundreds of years ago. we tried that in iraq it did not work we tried it in afghanistan it did not work we keep trying it we tried it in libya it does not work there people want us to try it in syria it will not work and it's not going to work in iran and the sooner that we understand that the better it is because then we look at what are our options what's interesting according to polls the majority of americans seven out of ten americ

we can do it these of the iran for the middle east. >> for those -- vis-a-vis iran for the middle east >> for those who are clamoring to go to war with iran to prevent them, you say no. >> it could destabilize the entire region. it is extremely costly for us. a war with iran, just think, could we really extricate ourselves from afghanistan? they have a lot of panic ability into afghanistan, the iranians. they share a border -- they have a lot about availability into afghanistan, the iranians. they share a border. >> what do you think is going to happen with iraq and iran? >> it will take time to stabilize itself, iraq, because we have done a lot of damage to it. we kind of destroyed the fun doesn't -- fundamental sense of iraqi nationalism, and as a result, more specific ethnic and religious differences. >> could it be a federation of the kurds and the sunnis and shiites? >> in the ideal, yes. but in the meantime, there's so much tension and rivalry between the different elements that it could be very easily destabilized. this is why an israeli war with iran would be so damaging to us,

. ♪ [ticking] >> even though there's a total embargo in this country against any trade with iran, iranll gets high tech materials and components for a variety of weapons from right here in the u.s.a. this man set up a trading company in philadelphia. you are charged with trying to buy a centrifuge that could be used to make biological weapons, like anthrax. >> yes. that's what they say. >> do you know how much money you have? >> no. >> i mean, does 17 billion sound about right? he is the richest man in russia who just bought the worst team in the nba. but as you'll see, he's not like any other owner of a big time american sports franchise. he's an adrenaline junkie with a few unusual toys. >> see? [gun clicking] >> and he owes some of his fame and fortune to a bevy of party girls. >> frankly speaking, i like women. >> coal has made jim rogers and his company rich, and that's why we were surprised to hear what this power baron has to say about what coal does to the environment. you know, there are a lot of people, many of them in your industry, many people that you probably know, who sa

downward, because, yesterday, his supporters in iran's legislature won only 13 out of 65 seats up for grabs and we heard from m k marco rubio and he spoke more broadly about iran. >> we need to do a better job of preparing the allies in the world for the reality, at the end of the day if negotiations and sanctions don't work there will be a need for military action, what we cannot tolerate and the whole world would agree, what we cannot tolerate is a nuclear iran. >> reporter: and president mahmoud ahmadinejad is going to have to step down in 2013 because of term limits and the parliament where he's losing steam doesn't directly control things like iran's nuclear program but certainly is influential. >> eric: all right, thanks. the question is what does it mean for iran and the nuclear stand off for the west and as mahmoud ahmadinejad continues to lose support could it finally be curtains for him? joining us is john bol ton, the former u.s. ambassador to the u.n. and a fox news contributor. good morning. >> glad to be here. >> eric: thanks for getting up this early, you are in los ang

to iran that the u.s. may be willing to use a terrorist group against iran sort of poisons the well for these negotiations that are supposed to be occurring in good faith and it really says to iran. how can the united states and its allies credibly urging iran to not support terrorist groups when it appears that we may be opening the door to openly supporting terrorist groups against iran and that was jim all of the policy policy director for the national iranian american council. and we turn now to the present capital of the world the state of louisiana has a higher prison rate than any other country take a listen. a look at these statistics that will really put things into perspective forty thousand inmates are one and eighty six louisianans are behind bars there's more than two thousand private prisons in the state and they hold more than half of louisiana's inmates private prisons are a one hundred eighty two million dollar industry there so as you can see in louisiana the prison industry is profitable

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against iran. they are very tough and very frustrating, and i think the russians have a more sophisticated view than the chinese on this issue, so if we can convince the russians to be constructive, that would help. >> if i could comment on how patient and we can be, 15 months ago was the last time the sides met, and iran came to the meeting and said, and endure sanctions on us and we will be prepared to talk about -- end sanctions and we will be prepared to talk about it. 15 months later we want to have negotiations. what has changed? they are under additional pressure, and that has changed calculations. they want relief. maybe the way they want to get relief is by negotiating a deal, but they may want to use the process of negotiating to break the momentum and and the developments that have led them to reassess their approach -- and end the developments that have led them to reassess their approach. >> i think there is no doubt the iranian strategy is to try to split 5 +1. i have no doubt they wa