occupation of iraq. and he did it because this congress approved of it. and this congress approved of it because we were told that iraq had weapons of mass destruction, that iraq had the intention and capability of hurting the united states, that iraq had something to do with 9/11 and al qaeda's role on 9/11. mr. speaker, all false. now, the bible says you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. we are sought that truth crushed to the ground will rise again. we are waiting to be freed from the lies that took us into war, but we cannot be freed until we have a reconciliation with the people of iraq, and we can't do that until we have truth. america is going to have to go through that period. we will never recover from 9/11 if we continue to move down the rabbit holes of war that were based on lies or based on a misreading of history and a misapplication of power. mr. speaker, can i ask how many more minutes i have left? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman has 10 minutes remaining. mr. ku

well we're in we're into the which are all uphill you period in iraq and you know we have to be out of there by twenty eleven and there's going to be a cause and effect that goes along with that which are all bound up on the flip side i think in libya just from my personal knowledge from two thousand and three two thousand and four there's going to be a period of time re trying to figure out you know who's in charge who's really genuine who's really interested in the goals of the future of libya and then who's really corrupt and out for selfish gain. and you're not going to gain that from bombing them from twenty thousand feet above the year or less you're going to only gain that from from boots on the ground and and frankly there's not enough out there right now to justify sending american sons and daughters into harm's way and rubia but hey can you talk about you know the the drawdown in iraq iraq the fact that it should be sort of nearing its and that and i just got to go back to this attack and to create i mean this is this is serious and how do we know that that these kind of thin

we have two iraqs. the iraq inside the geographic boundaries, and another iraq outside it. the cox here are a fine example. they are professional, they are productive, they are educated. they are iraqis, but they are not in iraq. iraqis are very successful people, wherever they go. we have more doctors practicing medicine and enter the united kingdom -- in the united kingdom than we have in iraq. that makes it extremely difficult. when, if ever, will enough of these people go home? only when conditions inside the country improve, when security improves to the level that they feel safe. and i believe we are getting their. when their opportunities, there are opportunities for them to make real contributions. somebody who has specialized in a very fine branch of science and who's working in an industry to go back to iraq there is no infrastructure for that person to contribute. it is going to be not necessarily that people going back and settle and in theing the country of but it will be surgeons going back to iraq to do operations. professors going to teach for a semester eve

has this got anything to do with iraq? maybe iraq was an inspiration. maybe this site of millions of people going to elections in which the outcome is not predetermined inspired some, but this is part of the story, not the whole story. the story also has the elements of young people who are computer savvy, well-informed, know what is going on in the world. they have decided that they had had enough. they will not stand and they deserve something better. they will stand up and fight for it, and a dead. in tunisia, in egypt, now in libya, and bahrain and again and -- and yemen, right across the middle east. this is good news. this is good news. they have been behind the rest of the world in terms of democracy, freedom, women's rights, education, the economy, growth. the system had to be unblocked this development, despite the fact that the outcome is not preordained, despite the fact that we might have a lot of hiccups and setbacks, ultimately, it will be opening up the region. the regional reintegrate with the rest of the world and move forward. iraq wil

echoes of iraq is the u.k.onsiders military intervention in libya some fear the ongoing violence in north africa could trigger a knowledge is not stressed compared. to us foreign policy how some americans spring the country's ever changing from this poll position which they say regularly sees them supporting the public i. lost the last leader of the soviet union celebrates his eightieth birthday r.t. takes a look at how thankful to the good country which some say. this is live from moscow the libyan leader moammar gadhafi has about a war the gap of thousands if foreign powers and to the country this comes amid speculation the u.s. and u.k. are preparing for military intervention london's telegraph newspaper reports that british special forces already in libya might be called to secure tons of chemical weapons stockpiles there this comes as the u.k. looks into enforcing a no fly zone over the north african country meanwhile the u.s. is flexing its international muscle using its more ships places in libya via the

because work is expensive iraq has cost an estimated three trillion dollars that was enough money too. the social security problem in the united states for fifty years you know what afghanistan and the other three trillion if we just took two hundred forty three troops two hundred forty three that's all that's really a drop in the bucket for the hundreds of thousands that are over there right now so i'm on a c one thirty i'm fluent back we've saved enough money to fund a higher education for all of afghanistan for the entire year those wars is not over and done the attack on libya kicked off the tab for the first ten days five hundred and fifty million dollars with another one hundred twenty million to be pumped in over the next three weeks are most effective alliance nato has taken command. of the arms embargo and the no fly zone followed by a monthly allowance of forty million dollars they've said it now nato is in charge neda is held backwards is usa another less tangible price of war we soaring anti-american sentiment chipping away at a self-proclaimed key to successful diplomacy

what if the car bomb making for iraq. think the car bomb changed the basic tactical situation in iraq successful counterinsurgency is based on being among the people close to them when you start bombing and you start to withdraw both government forces the police in iraq and u.s. forces in behind bomb barriers you cut off communication the people the car bomb separated the government from the people and at the same time inflict casualties so it was the other big piece of an insurgency and either it's convincing american people we're losing car bomb can't be stopped coming up. insurgents use car bombs against any target the u.n. religious shrines police stations and street markets. the blast of the car bomb turned blitzkrieg to defeat. to counter the car bomb the u.s. military has established giant o. joint improvised explosive device defeat organization. with an annual budget of four billion dollars. most of joe's work is top secret it vast electronic countermeasures to jam remotely detonated bombs. but some of it is just

government was lying to them about why we went to war in iraq the u.s. government has are they you the american people have the right to know that their tax dollars are paying for the death of scores of civilians in iraq and afghanistan and pakistan and yemen the american people have the right to know that while the obama administration goes on t.v. and says the afghan war is going great we're winning we're making gains we just send some more soldiers it's all going to be good and then we can leave the american people have the right to know if there are a lying when they say that and that every single soldier that's deployed there right now is doing so in a war that they know is lost and those people's deaths will be in vain so what bradley manning has done if you did it is heroic because the u.s. government is incapable of telling us the truth all they told us is lies and millions of people around the world have been so detrimentally affected by it that they've proven they're incapable of it so we have the right to expose ourselves now i want to turn to

afghanistan iraq egypt. libya. when it comes to u.s. foreign policy this country's hands are not just full they're often tied secretary of state hillary clinton charged with the task of laying out the plan for the future generations of americans including my own have grown up successful and safe because we chose to lead the world in tackling the greatest challenges but now clear signs that the challenges and the times are changing but a lot of people in this country have come to the conclusion that our policy overhaul has been inconsistent that sometimes we support the bad guys and the bad guys become our enemies. twenty eleven has been a major year with major shifts in prominence and power in northern africa and the middle east. and signs that us will influence may be waning just days before the regime of egyptian president hosni mubarak fell both secretary clinton and cia director leon panetta called it stable until it was. there are also inconsistency is on the war in afghanistan in afghanistan integrated military and civilian surges

to what we saw in iraq we are seeing a similar scenario of what happened to iraq we're seeing the same stories we're we're seeing talks about sanctions no fly zone reports false reports that have been used to justify the no fly zones about aerial strikes on protesters and civilians this is exactly the same scenario as iraq in fact they're starting to talk about chemical weapons in libya it was in two thousand and three that the united states and britain want to fight gadhafi as someone who gave up his weapons of mass destruction now they're doing about face and claiming that colonel gadhafi has chemical weapons no this is another book the man they're creating to justify their foreign policy in regards to libya looking at what you're seeing today you've had syria across the latest news you see in the news wires where do you think this is going just today where the gadhafi has failed to retake control over the eastern town of brag but as you mentioned earlier on he says he's still determined to cling to power you think he will do the very end do you think he will succeed where is it goin

the us has come forward with statements regarding all of these protests except for those going on in iraq who want to know why do you ask has been so quiet when it comes to iraq in particular maybe it has something to do with our several year involvement and war in this country last author michael o'brien next the richest of banker turned prisoner speaks out bernie madoff made several claims in his latest interview including one saying of the entire government is a ponzi scheme so is he just spreading the blame or is this con artist right we'll talk about it with richard ask also how much will the u.s. be directly affected by the conflict in libya do americans realize that supporting democratic revolutions may end up hurting their wallets we're going to hash it all out with our chief financial correspondent lauren lyster then the hacktivists have struck again after concentrating their efforts on defending weekly leaks anonymous has expanded and recently they attacked a web site for the koch brothers group americans for prosperity and now they've added more groups to their hit list and we

i asked about iraq, back in 2008. i want to start with what he said about iraq and the transition to afghanistan before we come back to this new book, "the wrong war." winning it in iraq now means what, as you define it? >> it is a level of stability with violence that the iraqis can handle without us and without the country falling apart or getting under the control of iran, and we're just about there. that is quite different of saying we're going to have a wonderful democracy. that is not our business. i hope that my book is a warning to anybody. if you read this book and understand how hard we had to work. now we have both presidential candidates saying we have to do more in afghanistan, and i am saying, i am all in favor of that, but let's have our eyes wide open about afghanistan because it is one to be even harder than iraq. tavis: afghanistan harder than iraq, that is what you said in 2008. the good news is that we had different suits and ties. the bad news, for me at least, i am not so sure that things are any

protesting at the present time are divided into different groups the largest grouping either with iraq or are actually looking for a constitutional monarchy as your previous guest said there is a smaller set of groups but smaller in number that are actually calling for a republic all together to. demand that the royal family step down within the bahraini government as well there are different forces at play between the different parts of government and they don't all see eye to eye on this so to play it up as a more sectarian divide i think is simplifies the matter beyond comprehension for us stephen that's a very good point and you may have gotten to this point a little bit quicker than i anticipated how much of the difference between the two different takes the sunni and the shia being played out in media as to in regard to what is actually going on on the ground is it just oversimplifying it for everyone or is it really spot on. no i think that it definitely plays a very important role because the gulf cooperation council the troops that went into boxing were actually from five diff

american occupation of iraq really. help. the middle east. and american and european government shouldn't look for backing at home to a million marched in london even the invasion of iraq in two thousand and three and times have changed this is now austerity britain are starting another war factored into the budget british troops are already fighting an unpopular war in afghanistan it's highly unlikely the conflict has the appetite for again getting involved in someone else's struggle battling as they are at home in the face of deep cuts rising unemployment and it's unlikely to be popular in sight this building the ministry of defense has to slash spending by more than seven and a half billion dollars in the next four years it's an intervention britain would find hard to afford on many levels your and it's our duty. so a rebel leaders in eastern libya call for international military intervention to help them topple gadhafi they say they don't want ground forces they don't want another iraq or afghanistan just airstrikes weapons maybe a little

we have been in iraq for eight years. ending some hussain's regime, was over it in a matter of weeks. we have been involved in a very costly occupation since then. i read that the strategic -- i read the the strategic framework agreement. it is clear that we should be out by the end of 2011, but it is -- there is language in there that allows an extension. i would like to hear from you whether you believe that there are any circumstances that to compel us to stay longer. >> first, senator, i agree completely with you about the caribbean free-trade agreement. i think it is very much in america's strategic and economic interests. i hope it will be submitted soon and acted on some by the congress. with respect to iraq, there are no plans that i am aware of. but you're right that the iraqi garment does have certainly -- the iraqi government does have the opportunity to request additional assistance on the military side. we have committed to civilian assistance, which i think is appropriate. at this point, do not have any insi

raising fears that america's humanitarian primus will have legal consequences for civilians as it did in iraq and afghanistan. and japanese imports kept the global cold souls are after the fukushima radiation leak meanwhile the number of dead from the tsunami disaster rises to more than eight thousand workers are still struggling around the nuclear meltdown at the stricken facility which officials say may never produce energy again. we more news in about half an hour's time up next as promised it's cross talk with peter voser. can. follow in well nick rostock i'm peter lavelle divide within islam the shia and sunni the saudi invasion and suppression of the shia majority in bahrain again highlights how sectarian differences can inflame passions and impact the geopolitical water in the arab world and how will these divisions be played out as the arab awakening continuous. can. discuss the prospects for the arab awakening i'm joined by juan cole in ann arbor he's a professor of history at the university of michigan in cairo we go to he somehow or he is a fellow at the center for research in ethn

oh you're like they completely who are against you you are obsessed with iraq iraq if we agree wholeheartedly and i know he was because they are holding their own america of course is a loser just because we're not talking about everywhere while you're on the pile of crimes in iraq and you are covering your girl narrative afghanistan as well just look at the pictures not going out of afghanistan for a day or a few our soldiers killing thousands of innocent gov guy i mean this is demagoguery it was sort of we're here to talk about libya you want to do a show next week about iraq fine but we're here to talk about libya and i don't care about intel we're doing the show about u.s. policy ok brad i do believe you when you're going to go you and i to go to you and watch in washington brad. what is it you think that the united states is trying to get on the right side of history here i'm not sure it's doing the right thing but i mean considering its long term backing of ben ali and we have mubarak and whatnot i mean the united states is trying to find its footing here and how we should treat a very

oh like they completely do you know who i'm just you you were obsessed with iraq iraq if we had gone to war smiley and ninety was because you are the holder nearly america that of course i am. talking about i remember what you were on that are not crimes in iraq i mean our coverage i'm going to get afghanistan as well just look at live pictures now not cover afghanistan today off u.s. soldiers killing thousands of innocent that gun is not and this is a demagogue who wrote this it was sort of we're here to talk about libya you want to do a show next week about iraq fine well we're here to talk about libya i don't care about intel we're doing the show about u.s. policy ok brad i'd like to call you when you think we should we are going to go to you and watch in washington brad. what is it you think that the united states is trying to get on the right side of history here i'm not sure it's doing the right thing but i mean considering its long term backing of ben ali and we had mubarak and whatnot i mean the united states is trying to find its footing here and how we should treat a very r

echo of iraq the u.k. considers military intervention in libya there are fears the ongoing violence in north africa triggered a disastrous campaign russia and other foreign governments who said they're against moves which involve the use of international monitors. as washington seeks to shake up its foreign policy members of congress and question the u.s. government's ability to back the right. for the middle east states america's struggle to successfully balance its interests. in the last leader of the soviet union celebrates his eightieth birthday because. of the cancellation of state censorship and the promotion of free speech some accuse him of paving the way for destructive chaotic form. discuss next how the legacy of the father of russian democracy is seen both in his own country and across the atlantic cross-talk is coming right. if you can. follow and welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle as he turns eighty male got a bunch of salacious each season loved abroad in loads that home as glasnost and

the giant soared commemorate iraq pose a war with iran, but -- the giant sword commemorate iraq's war with iran. the systematic attempt by iraq pose the new rulers to eradicate his monumental legacy. thesehdad,'s city hall, will celebrate our ancient culture, and not war. some of his colleagues, though, think the campaign has gone too far. the deputy culture minister lost two brothers to sit down's purges, but he -- to saddam's purges, but he wants the swords to stay. >> i think is trustee there so that we can always remember that it was iraqis who were cut down by the s -- by those sorts. >> -- by those swords. >> of this, for example, commemorate all iraqis who have died in conflicts. and no one has suggested that this should be demolished. >> iraq was flushed with oil money when it was billed, and no expense was scared. under the country's finest artists it was designed. some of the most spectacular monuments will not be left standing, conjuring mixed memories for people who lived through his role. -- rule. >> you can get in touch with me and most of the team on twitter. i am mike

great weapon for him and he has become an expert on casualties and the after effects of the recent iraq war he blames d.-u. minish and for most of the medical problems connected to the war. the casualty rate for vietnam was approximately seven percent eight percent of those that served here we're looking at over one third are now casualties already over thirty percent of everybody the service is now so bad off medically good they have to request permanent medical care and permanent pensions from the u.s. department of veteran affairs that's an incredible number. the pentagon has ended up saying that there is no danger at all from depleted uranium while some activists claim that it is a world threat roquet like many activists in the n.t. you can't have been on both sides of the fence first as a member of the military establishment supporting the official line and then being against it everything you know that's one hundred twenty millimeter to your august aluminum i'll have one one hundred twenty millimeter to you rob this is a whole new model ok. so they say it's sixty percent net less

to save kuwait you know to liberate kuwait from saddam hussein from rule into iraq from iraq under saddam hussein in one thousand nine hundred one all right and that had a broad arab police the arab states were backing us now we in it went directly in invading iraq after nine eleven we had the whole arab population the arab street as you would want to say the arab public opinion was against us and not a single arab state sit alongside with us and yet we intervened there now here you have libya on the other hand we are arab sentiment i would say just judging from egypt and the fact that i see libyan flags being sold on the streets now as the by libyan flags i mean the old libyan flag which has been resurrected by the insurgents as a symbol against the flag that gadhafi introduced and i see them being sold everywhere now in cairo it's funny because i've saved myself a nice to see it get a libyan flag and i have a feeling that the insurgents have massive support especially among the young

these guys were in iraq more than they were in the united states. and, you know had their friends killed in front of in front of them in horrific ways. and maybe kill people that they don't think, having to look back on if they should've killed. and you have to live with that stuff. and that's not necessarily ptsd. but it is the things that, you know, were also human beings are resilient. and we can deal with stuff. we can even remake our character after we feel that it's been destroyed. if it comes to that. the key to success there or was the most most basic ease, there's got to be stable place to rebuild from come at these guys hang out with of the guys who are all screwed up from the war, drinking and carrying weapons, they will never have that chance. and so it's really, it's a command issued more than like a therapeutic issue, how do you create an assignment for success. >> the films that have come out in the past couple of years, particularly with our current wars, how have you reacted? are there any that you really thought were very strongly

raising fears of america's military and promised small lethal consequences from civilians as it did in iraq and afghanistan. and japanese imports hit the global code of configuring infinitely long for example dead from saddam's arms to gaza to moment it doesn't work as a still struggling to prevent nuclear meltdown at the second facility the fish will say may never produce anything again. stay with us now as our debates show cross talk looks at whether in the distant vision is causing political turmoil in the arab world. can. stand. alone a well known or astarte guy peter lavelle divide within islam the shia and sunni the saudi invasion and suppression of the shia majority and iran again highlights how sectarian differences can inflame passions and impact the geopolitical order in the arab world and how will these divisions be played out as the arab awakening continuous. can see. just as the prospects for the arab awakening i'm joined by juan cole in ann arbor he's a professor of history at the university of michigan in cairo we go to he somehow or he is a fellow at the center for research

and life after afghanistan and iraq we're going to take a look at a valid up more veterans seem to be fighting this one about homelessness. good evening it's tuesday march fifteenth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm lucy catherine of anyone watching our t.v. now feeling our focus on the latest situation out of japan officials have confirmed that radioactive material materials leaked into the atmosphere following an explosion and a fire at a reactor at the fukushima nuclear power plants there now the fire is said to have damaged an area used to store spent nuclear fuel dangerous radiation levels have flourished upin to order some one hundred forty thousand people to seal themselves indoors now just how this crisis will unfold remains to be seen but when you fear and scrutiny over nuclear power is of course certain but what happened to investment in science and innovation indeed it seems like we're only willing to spend money on new technology in times of war join us a little later this evening as our t. explores how corporations may be to blame for america's technology right. now tod

oh like they completely who are against you you are obsessed with iraq iraq if we agree wholeheartedly and ninety was because you are the holder nearly america that of course is a loser just because we are are talking about everywhere what you are on that are not crimes in iraq and you are covered young girl in your eyes in afghanistan as well just look at live pictures now coming out of afghanistan today if your soldiers killing thousands of innocent of gun is not and this is demagoguery with this sort of we're here to talk about libya you want to do a show next week about iraq fine but we're here to talk about libya i don't care about intel that's really really sure about us policy ok brad i'd like to believe you when you think we should go you and i to go to you and watch in washington brad . what is that you think that the united states is trying to get on the right side of history here i'm not sure it's doing the right thing but i mean considering its long term backing of ben ali and we had moved mubarak and whatnot i mean the united states is trying to find its footing here and h

the iran-iraq war? why haven't iran paid recreations for the war which iraq started? why is iran still holding on to some aging iraqi fighter jets flown into iran during the 1991 gulf war? why is iran dumping consumer goods on iraq and hurting iraqi productions? one of the complaints is if you go to a butcher particularly in the south thers butcher will ask you whether you want a sunni chicken or a shiite chicken? [laughter] and the shiite chicken comes from iran and it's blessed by an ayotollah. so this is quite a racket for the iranians. despite these irritants in the irritants, we have seen a panic spread through the sunni iran world about iran's rising profile in iraq and this panic about the shia wave have only gotten worse in back rain over the last weeks and months. we look at iran's relationships with these iran shia, i think it's cynical and incorrect to say that iran is somehow the instigator of these -- we know very well are there's are grievances particularly on the parts of shia and back ra

that's in a way what happened in iraq.hether we were right or wrong going into iraq it's really the fact that we didn't get the second yumpd security council resolution. >> i think that-- my sense is the reason iraq became as big as it did is because it became very difficult. i think if that -- >> it became a kind of civil war between-- >> a war situation. >> rose: between shiite and sunni. >> and i think in the case of libya, it is clear that the support in the arab world, unlike iraq, is widespread. >> rose: fur the rebels. >> for the rebels and for us to do something on it. >> rose: so by definition, that separates is t from iraq. >> separates it from iraq where we had broad opposition in the arab world, and we were-- didn't have a lot of support and we did have some, but not as broad as probably exists in the case of libya. >> i think metaphors and comparsons always dangerous dow industrials. it's not iraq-- others are saying it's ruondo. it's no that either. i think it's really the most difficult case the u.s. has fac

involvement is asked and now we're handing that what's on iraq to our eyes take the lead and i'm very skeptical that it that's going to correspond to the facts i think he overstated it and i think it's also clear that this point of supporting the rebels as opposed to purely protecting innocent civilians is certainly a visual rhyme with n.b.a. alliance particularly with nato i mean we have the u.s. u.k. and france are prepared to take a much more aggressive position other nato members germany for instance turkey are much more strict. standoffish and i think this is one of the reasons why we've seen now the lay and then a nato takeover of command of the operation i was going to take a quick break and throw to story here looking into you know politically financially whether the u.s. really can afford this or t.r.t. the i.c.c. into a canal shows us the price tag of being involved in battles in three different countries or four or five depending on how many counts at once. the u.s. has cultivated in fan of evil events with which it invades nations one or two or three locations change the l

and all of a sudden they realize the iraq war was not going very well. and so these guys are suddenly called out to the worst part of iraq at the time. they were and what is called the sunni triangle rate between her body and falluja. so i'm just going to tell you i have a few vocab words here and i had to learn a whole language when talking to these guys. one of them come in to active duty is your who will know. i refer to something called a saw. it's essentially like a medium-sized machine gun that soldiers carry. i'm also going to refer to something as a four lane highway just like an interstate that connected ramani and baghdad and it was the battalion's job to do highway patrol there. but highway patrol there was so full of firefights and burned-out cars pushed the side of the road that they quickly renamed it operation madman after the 80s movie. they named all their operations after old 80s movies. so i'm going to read to you a particularly bad day on mad math and then i'm going to briefly explain kind of echoed throughout time. and excuse me for

pain the drops on the basis of this product and permits into consequences for civilians as it did in iraq and afghanistan. also the japanese imports get with global cold shoulder. radiation leak meanwhile the number of dead from the great disaster rises to more than eight thousand. this is our team with the very latest world news well straight to libya now the u.s. britain and france are pressing ahead with their campaign of air attacks on the bit where it's the sixty four people have been killed during the strikes maybe in military chiefs ordered a cease fire on sunday evening across to tripoli where there's been shelling through the night despite you know some parties want to force paula the last time you spoke to us there was an aircraft how events unfolded over night. well that's right last time we spoke was just before midnight local time and at that time the sky was actually being washed up with this anti aircraft fire we lost the hours however have been quiet and we are now hearing from coalition forces that they didn't launch a strike at the compound of moammar gadhafi destroying

has this got anything to do with iraq? maybe iraq was an inspiration. maybe this site of millions of people going to elections in which the outcome is not predetermined inspired some, but this is part of the story, not the whole story. the story also has the elements of young people who are computer savvy, well-informed, know what is going on in the world. they have decided that they had had enough. they will not stand and they deserve something better. they will stand up and fight for it, and a dead. in tunisia, in egypt, now in libya, and bahrain and again and -- and yemen, right across the middle east. this is good news. this is good news. they have been behind the rest of the world in terms of democracy, freedom, women's rights, education, the economy, growth. the system had to be unblocked this development, despite the fact that the outcome is not preordained, despite the fact that we might have a lot of hiccups and setbacks, ultimately, it will be opening up the region. the regional reintegrate with the rest of the world and move forward. iraq wil