. >> mostly irish catholics from the great famine were treated with hostility during a massive wave of immigration in the 1800s. >> it was unclear to nativists, anti-immigrant activists of the day where the irish fit into the complicated racial hierarchy of the united states at that time. they were believed to be inferior in that sense, and they were depicted, for example, in political cartoons as having semian or ape-like features. >> there was a deep anti-catholic sentiment inherited from great britain in colonial times. in the 1770s new york catholics had to worship in private until the building of st. peter's catholic church, the first built in new york state. it was built outside of city limits because many feared the sinister reach of the papacy. an actually political party was formed in the mid-1800s as thousands arrive in the u.s. as their numbers grew, so did fears of a cat lick menace. >> they were bearers of a religion that was -- that was not only at odds with america but was going to destroy america. all americans were going to be forced to take their orders from the pope.

he was somebody very obsessed with the idea of families, he looked at them among irish catholic communities and employees that approach to african-american communities. to fatheras not meant -- he wasthe lebanon interested in employment programs and ways of helping families. wasead, what we got was, he arguing for benevolence, and he initially got that investment. one thing that happened, why argue, is that the society was already angled a certain way. they viewed african-american authorities -- african-american through a particular lens. we think about the state retreating out of the lives of african american families, less be theent in what would welfare state it has been malevolent investment. you can see this in the report, a lot of the solutions he thought we should embrace were not published. so we made up our own solutions. no solution has become more prominent, no solution has been more dealing with the policy of mass incarceration. issues toe employment be a factor. very often an african-american communities, we use this as a -- drug for job issues issues. a piece i read this week,

it is like being irish catholic. did mitt romney disappoint you greatly? you were there for him. i was trying to be supportive of the conservative candidate. i can't say he disappointed me because he never struck me as a great political talent. i never wrote this, but part of me thought that when he sadly lost in 2012, we dodged a bullet. the republican side, we need some kind of political genius to succeed and that was not a political genius. charlie: great family and the right values. when you think of political genius, do you think of ronald reagan? bill clinton? who has it on the republican side? large gifts are best seen in retrospect. i really can't tell you at the moment. charlie: you don't see emerging talent? has shareco rubio political talent. ted cruz has different kinds. charlie: how is it different? peggy: arco puts himself forward as someone who cares about ideas, programs, policies. with ted, you get this sneaking suspicion that ted cares very much about ted programs and policies. and his own drama and his own forays into independent action. it makes you see him in

very unique city and incomes this outsider and sets his sights on the catholic church, the most irish catholicity in the country. there is something about that hook that truly took me and i dug into the material with my co-rider and we realized how rich the story was. we were especially connected to the investigation. and the tireless, at times tedious, dramatic comment ultimately thrilling work. charlie: did you watch watergate or all the presidents men or any of those films -- tom: you cannot ignore all the presidents men. it's a great movie. preparing for this, the last thing i wantec to do was watch any other movie about journalism. our plan was to commit to the story we had in front of us. charlie: restore you had in front of you was? tom: you have marty determining -- he read an article in the globe the first week he arrived. it was basically saying a local attorney alleged that cardinal law had knowledge that these abuses crimes of a father. his question was what we do about that? sascha: he really kept us focused on not just writing the story about the priest -- he said what we are try

. >> princeton is named after an english king who massacred irish catholics and moved over a slave trading nation. isn't it time to i think cha the name princeton rename it community college of north central new jersey. >> did he have slaves? >> i am assuming he did. >> unbelievable. >> it is terrible. >> it is an interesting point. nobody wsh wsh we can't rewrite what has already been done. putting a spotlight we don't love america because she is perfect we love her in spite of being perfect. >> she has a gender? >> she does. >> you look at florida efrpg is a guy. >> princeton and yale now white e elitist liberals they occupy what was against. the they are in high school. i have no sympathy for any one. they have the privilege to even hate themselves. >> i think ultimately the absurdity. the loudest voice gets the attention. did i round it up nicely? >> are you okay? >> this is insane. fox news is way worse than i could have imaged. >> we welcome you back because we are interested in your opinion. >> i am not going to get out of here alive. >> we have a car to pick you up and take you hom

it is like being irish catholic. charlie: did mitt romney disappoint you greatly?ou were there for him. ,what you wrote. peggy: i was trying to be supportive of the conservative candidate. which i do sometimes. i can't say he disappointed me because he never struck me as a great political talent. i have to tell you. and part of me thought, i never wrote this, but part of me thought that when he sadly lost in 2012, as i said to friends, we dodged a bullet. on the republican side, we need some kind of political genius to succeed and that was not a political genius. that was a man who was great at life, not a politician. charlie: great family and the right values. peggy: yes. good man. charlie: when you think of political genius, do you think of ronald reagan? bill clinton? real political talent. who has it on the republican side? my answer when asked that is, large gifts are best seen in retrospect. i really can't tell you at the moment. charlie: you don't see emerging talent? sheer political talent? you want to see sheer political talent? marco rubio has share polit

and then it was the irish catholics and the italians, they were worried about.rld war ii we were fearful of socialism and bolsheviks. the history shows that most of the fears were overblown. this is a business station, you know when there's a financial crisis, you usually advise people don't act out of fear, out of panic, out of significig. that's often what people do and we like to present the picture that everybody blended together. but they don't, that's why we have chinatown and little italy and germantown and koreatown. >> but they all assimilated much more so then than now, right? >> i don't know that that's true. there's, that's kind of the myth. but every generation has had -- >> my forbearers, they learned the language. >> they had to. >> they were indoctrinated, they were good welders and good with stone and good with construction they brought an added value to our country. >> we had to have a group called the knights of columbus, created in this country in new haven, connecticut, to defend and protect the rights of mostly irish and italian immigrants

reflects ascend same, proposition that before has been faced by chinese immigrants, italians, irish, catholicsws , by somebody different group. at every take it is proven wrong. everyone can assimilate, and this is somewhere the united states has a very strong advantage compared to europe. we are good at integrating immigrants. it is good for our country. it is our moral and part of. these kinds of are convinced a hold any water. amy: ishaan tharoor, 10 you talk about having to write the second piece after your first piece went viral, on the issue of comparing syria and jewish refugees? well, i obviously -- it august the went viral. it elicited a strong sens response. that thehad to clarify point is it is not to say syria or jews areany difficult or this is a direct reflection of what happened. the point is specifically that the exact same rhetoric used by politicians and others, prominent figures in the u.s., in the 1930's, warning against the threat of these refugees is very, very similar. and the nature of that response, when we think about what these people are fleeing, the fact these are

it's like being irish catholic. >> rose: did mitt romney disappoint you greatly?because you were -- you know, you were there for him in a lot of what you wrote. >> i was trying to be supportive of the conservative candidate, which i do sometimes. i can't say he disappointed me because he never struck me as a great political talent, i have to tell you. part or me thought -- i never wrote this -- but part of me thought when he sadly lost in 2012, as i said to friends, we dodged a bullet. on the republican side, we need some kind of politicalgenous going on to succeed and that was not a politicalgenous. that was a man great at life, not at politics. >> rose: and with a great family and the right values. >> yeah, good man! >> rose: so do you see politicalgenius -- we when you think of political genius you think of ronald reagan, bill clinton. who has it in the field on the republican side? >> when asked that question my answer is large gifts are best seen in retrospect. >> rose: you don't see emerging tall snnlts they're being tested in debates and other ways. >> you

in comes an outsider and day one set sights on the catholic church, arguably the most irish catholic city in the country, and it's one thing about the hook. dug into the material with my co-writer josh singer, and we realized how rich the story was and we're especially connected to the investigation which is what the story portrays, and the tireless, at times tedious, sometimes dramatic and ultimately thrilling work -- >> rose: did you go watch any of the movies like watergate and all the president's men -- >> i'm a director and i love movies and you cannot ignore all the president's men. i don't care if you care about journalism, it's great movies. preparing for this, the last thing i wanted to do was watch that movie or any other movie about journalism. our plan was to commit to the story in front of us. >> rose: and the story, your definition? >> you have marty, he read an article in "the globe" the first thing in boston, eileen mcnamara wrote an article saying a local attorney had knowledge of the crimes and the simple question is what do we do about that. >> you really kept us f

academichern gentleman and this irish catholic politician who was closed when it came to personal matters developed a bond that was like no other. they were unbelievable together. and jim was able to coax teddy into talking about things. and recounting his recollections and stimulating his memory. putting meat on the bones, if you will. it was a terrific, terrific thing that happened between them and we are so lucky. the only thing that i regret is that neither teddy nor jim are here to be with us today. but their legacies, both of their legacies live on in the transcripts that we have released and we are all better for it. it is now my great honor and pleasure to introduce an historian at a very good friend. teddy talked with him often about this oral history project. he's a person that really needs no introduction. we have heard that expression, but he really needs no introduction. he is the author of nine books and he is a person whose face is his calling card. his vote -- his voice is his calling card. we all rely on his insights into history. delighted to introduce him now. michael b

nationalist movement is exploding and he's not irish but his message has great resonance with irish catholics who are -- one of the largest ethnic groups in america and he finds this is a great way to kind of get noticed and to get speaking gigs and to find his first real audience and also to get -- he becomes well known in great britain as a result of that. all right. so why does he appeal to workers? let's look at this as one of the many questions. when he writes his book he's thinking i'll just wow everybody. and it turns out his first real core group are american workers and one of the main reasons is that he challenges that fundamental or that traditional understanding of poverty the one we saw josephine shaw lowell kind of touching on. poverty the traditional interpretation was it's inevitable, you really can't do anything about it, and those who are poor just need to endure it, right? just need to grin and bear it and their reward in heaven will be great. that's sort of the old fashioned way of dealing with it. it's easy to say that, it's not easy to hear that when you're the poor pers

imagine that i wasn't thrilled with her as the person who used the british army to put the lid on irish catholics, but she was also such a daring leader and i wanted to know what her secret was. she looked 20 years younger than when she first took office and now she was in her 10th year, the apex of her role and she looked younger than ever. i found out she surrounded herself with star boys. they all looked like 1930s american matinee idols and some of them told me, we find mrs. teague sexually attractive in a rather pocketed way. [laughter] >> what? margaret thatcher sexy? soviet press called her that iron lady and i discovered she relied on a mysterious indian woman who called herself madame. some of her clients were pamela harriman, a couple of women in the royal family and i had to take on a false persona to gain access to her inner sanctum and she directed me to climb a stepstool to the top of her bathtub, electrical bathtub. she is at one and manipulating the ions and i'm standing there shivering with fear. i had gone to great lengths to get a story, but i'm thinking maybe electrocution is

can imagine i wasn't thrilled with her as the person who used the british army to put a lid on irish catholics but she was also such a daring leader and i wanted to note what was her secret. she looked deep in 20 years younger than when she first took office and now she was at the tent here at her rule. she surrounded herself with star boys and they all looked like 1930s american matinee idols into some of them told me we find her attractive in a rather packaged way. [laughter] margaret thatcher, sexy? the soviet press called her the iron lady and i discovered she relied on a mysterious indian woman who called herself that i'm monique. some of the clients and a couple of women and the royal family had to take on the false persona to gain access to the nursing some and she directed me to disrobe and climbed the this rope and climbed the steps to the top of her electrical bathtub. she's had one and manipulating the ions and i'm standing there shivering with fear. i've gone to great lengths to get a story but i'm thinking maybe electrocute china's growing a little too far. but i allow myself to b

i was born in brooklyn, new york, big irish catholic family, moved out to massapequa park in long islandau county when i was 5 or 6 years old, but lived in northern jersey, came back to new york but the ethos of my life has been i am under yorker and i am very flattered you thought of that song for indeed i am a native new yorker. >> when did you realize you wanted to be a journalist? >> i always realize i was a writer. i knew that from childhood. i was a great reader ended occurred to me, from the time i was this high i've loved books. one of the beautiful things about the old culture in america is it was so boring, reading books was actually fun. it is what you did for fun. i was a great reader. somebody must be the person who makes up the story in the books. i think i found out that person is called a writer. i have actual wheat -- this isn't in the book, but this is actually a true story, when i was in third grade on long island i had a teacher named miss brown. ms. brown told us one week before thanksgiving when thanksgiving was on everybody's mind, she said go home, your only homew

irish catholic family. moved to nassau county when i was five or six years old.hern jersey, came back to new york, but i am a new yorker and i am very flattered that you thought of that song for indeed i'm a native new yorker. >> absolutely. when did you realize you wanted to be a journalist? >> i always realized, jackie, that i was a writer. i actually knew that from childhood. was a great reader and it occurred to me from the time i was the size i love the books. one of the beautiful things about the old coulter in america is that it was so boring that reading books was actually fun. it sort of what you did for fun, so a great router and it occurred to me at some point along the way that someone must be the person who makes up the story in the books. i think i found out that person is called the writer. i have actually, this isn't in the book, but this is actually a true story. when i was in the third grade, and massapequa, long island, i had a teacher name ms. brown. ms. brown told us when we before thanksgiving with thanksgiving was on everyone's mind, she sa

i did tell melissa, i'm an irish catholic guy, sometimes we like to talk too much.m going to keep it short and sweet. thank you, thank you, thank you, for what you do for our veterans. there is a civilian/military divide or gap in our nation. we're in iraq, afghanistan, the longest wars in american history. but it's less than 1%, 2.6 million, that have gone to fight these wars. and when they come home, most of them are doing great things. most of them are incredible civic assets, like in generations past. they're more likely to vote, lead civic organizations, run successf fuful small businesses. but as you know, many of them do fall through the cracks. we have an i.ethic in the military, we do not leave anybody behind. and because of you, thousands are not being left behind. veterans' treatment courts, it's a life or death movement for so many. and it's because of you in this room, and your counterparts back home, that are making a real difference. that are literally saving lives of folks who have been forgotten. and from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much. f

thought the owls belong other the field with the fighting irish, now just four minutes from 45 seconds from date it first top ten roman catholic lot of 24 to 20 matt rhule says they will rebound in the days ahead. >> these are -- these kids a brought in and talented. i expect even better things to happen. i was disappointed as we were -- i'm hoping this spring boards us in the next four weeks. >> that was a big show coming up sports in, and we're going to hear more about last night's game and how temple's recent success is going to help them with recruiting former eagles sean is going to talk about the second half of the season for the birds. keith pompey is going to talk about how it's working or not working coming up. >> . >>> welcome back the ben franklin bridge looked a little bit different this morning, a lot different. we'll let you take a look for yourself, "eyewitness news" on the ben as runners caught for the 14th annual cooper run the bridge, the 10k run and two mile bridge walk is for great cause, proceeds go to the large school, a nonprofit special education school in bellmawr new jersey. since 450 more than $3.8 m

thought the owls belong other the field with the fighting irish, now just four minutes from 45 seconds from date it first top ten, roman catholic, lot of 24 to 20, matt rhule says they will rebound in the days ahead. >> these are -- these kids a brought in and talented. i expect even better things to happen. i was disappointed as we were -- i'm hoping this spring boards us in the next four weeks. >> that was a big show coming up sports in, and we're going to hear more about last night's game and how temple's recent success is going to help them with recruiting, former eagles sean is going to talk about the second half of the season for the birds. keith pompey is going to talk about how it's working or not working coming up. >> >>> welcome back, the ben franklin bridge looked a little bit different this morning, a lot different. we'll let you take a look for yourself, "eyewitness news" on the ben as runners caught for the 14th annual cooper run the bridge, the 10k run and two mile bridge walk is for great cause, proceeds go to the large school, a nonprofit special education school in bellmawr new jersey. since 450 more than $3.8

nation where some 80 per cent of the population are catholics, no liberalization of the abortion laws is in sight, even if polls show a large majority of irishitizens would favor it. >> i think abortion should be legalized yes! why? because i think, it's a woman's body, and she should have the right to choose. >> there's a lot of people who're still quite old-fashioned, and it's the old-fashioned voters, that always show up for the referendums. >> but that's what's really started to move. we're now seeing very significant levels of public support, and increasingly we're seeing political support, but we've a long way to go. politics and government and political leaders are very, very far behind public opinion on this issue.. >> around four thousand irish women are known to travel abroad for an abortion every year. the true figure may be much higher. most western countries describe their own more liberal abortion laws as an expression of a woman's right to decide over her own body. but lily and her husband felt they had little choice when they had the birth induced prematurely in liverpool. they knew the baby had virtually no chance of surviva

i tall an and irish immigrants flocked to the states in the 19th century and fwreeted by anti-catholiciscrimination. in 1939 with europe on the brink of war, 10,000 mostly jewish refugee children from germany tried to enter the united states. in a poll at the time about 60% of americans said keep them out. 30% in favor of letting the children in. months later, more than 900 jewish refugees from jury roomny on board the uss st. louis denied entry. >> we knew this was a land of immigrants. we couldn't understand why the coast guard forced us into international waters. >> reporter: after returning to europe a quarter of the ship's passengers died in concentration camps. >> america put in immigration controls that were basically geared at turning away jews and italians and eastern europeans and southern europeans. zblrld world war ii bred much intolerance. 100,000 people of japanese descent forced into interment camps. it was a time in the u.s. when african-americans suffered under jim crow, state and low el laws forcing segregation. this sign making it all too clear, no dogs, no negroes,

>> irish catholic, so i get to bless you all.ope the concept for the right to be forgotten has gone too far. the court holding if you sit and read it once it's translated from the original spanish is far more finished than how -- far more measured than how it's being implemented. people with access to money and lawyers are asking to have embarrassing stuff pulled down. and i would argue that if it's true about you and that it is something that happened to a public figure or in the public sphere or whatever and it's relevant to thing good like most historical facts are, we shouldn't be able to rewrite history. that worries me from an accuracy standpoint, from an opportunity to be known. i agree we have some control over the digital self and we have a whole other conversation about revenge porn, there's actually an acronym now in the policy world about nonconsensual sexual materials, but about control of one's data and image. very, very important. but being able to just say i'm going to take that down because it was embarrassing an

irish come right back. kieser, standing, delivering, to will fuller. he's a local guy, fuller. went to roman catholicaking hearts all over the region. and so notre dame now leads 24 to 20, last chance for the owls, pj walker, pick off, and temple first lost of the season, it is a heart breaker, 24 to 20. >> notre dame is a great team. i have a loss of respect for them. i thought they made great great plays, one more play than we made tonight a lot of things went against our guys tonight. they kept battling, battling, battling. and to the last play, thought we could come back to win the game. could be prouder of them. >> also how good after team they are. we got a lot of guys willing to do whatever. you know what i mean, great guys, you know, i think the casino of next week, you know, awesome game tomorrow, and on to the next win. >> that will do it for sports, i'm do don bell, have a great stay. >> how prouder are we of the cherry and white? >> yes. >> that was tight game. >> yes, amazing run, undefeated to up this point, right? and they still have few more games, like coach said -- >> got extra hour

irish come right back. kaiser standing, delivering, to will fuller. he's a local guy, is fuller. went to roman catholicchool, breaking hearts all over the region. notre dame now leads 24 to 20, last chance, for the owls, pj walker, pick off, and temple first lost of the season, it is a heart breaker. twenty-four to 20. >> notre dame great team. a lot of respect for them. i thought they made great, great plays, one more play than we played tonight a loft things went against our guys tonight. they just kept battling and battling and battling. and even to the last play, i thought we had maybe come back and win the game, couldn't be prouder of them. >> we got a lot of guys willing to do whatever. you know what i mean, we got great guys. i think the character for next week, awesome game tomorrow, you know, on to the next one. >> sometimes it is not what you do, it is how do you it. penn state had a six and two record, entering saturday, but none of their wins were all that impressive. nail biters don't inspire confidence. there were beat downs, though, those get it done. so, that enters saturday's match up

irish come right back. kaiser standing, delivering, to will fuller. he is a local guy is fuller. went to roman catholicrts all over the region. and so notre dame now leads 24 to 20. last chance for the owls, pj walker, pick off, and temple first lost of the season, a heart breaker, 24 to 20. >> notre dame is a great team. avenue lot of respect for them. i thought they made great, great plays, they made one more play than we made tonight a lot of things went against our guys tonight. they just kept battling, battling, battling. and even to the last play, i thought we had a chance to come back, win the game. couldn't be prouder of them. >> you know, we got a lot of guys doing whatever, you know what i mean, we got great guys. you know, awesome game tomorrow, on to the next one next week. >> sometimes it is not what you do, it is how you do it. pen straight had a six and two record, entering saturday. but none of their wins were all that impressive. nail biters don't inspire confidence. thorough beat downs, though, oh, those get it done. so, that enters saturday match up against illinois. look at them mak

irish proved to be too much. >> caught, and touchdown! will fuller, hometown touchdown. >> that was notre dame's will fuller catching the go ahead score with just two minutes on the clock. fuller graduated from roman catholic and i guess if you are going to get beaten, might as be somebody from the city. notre dame won 24-20. because of the big game, the temple owls stepped into the national spotlight, and so did their fans. it was the first time the owls had been a ranged team and faced another ranked team. >>> it was a sea of white, and temple fans came in droves to stand with their school. >> it was great. everybody can see how great our school is, because we're temple proud. >> it's the biggest thing to happen since 1776. >> that big? >> yeah, look around. >> coming up, john clark will break down the game with full highlights. >>> texas is dealing with the aftermath of some deadly storms and flooding. this is really been going on for a week. you will not remember how many water rescues the houston police have been on just this weekend. >>> back on the campaign trail. the presidential candidates span out across the country stumping for support, and we have a rundown of where they turned up and what they

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the mayor of detroit then was a liberal irish catholic named jerome cavanaugh who had been elected in 1961 largely because of the african-american vote. his commitment was trying to change detroit from its unfortunate history of racial violence and tension in the years before he was elected, very good a lot of confrontations between the police and african-american communities. attentions with all the way back to world war ii when in 19431 of the largest race riots in american history happen in detroit. when many african-americans were coming up to work in the factories as were whites from appalachia in the south, and that tension filled two bytes over housing and jobs. one of the sore points in detroit history which 20 years later have a was trying to overcome. one of his first moves as me was to appoint a progressive police commissioner george edwards, who had been trained at the united auto workers as a progressive labor person, who had been active in detroit politics for a long time, and who's on the michigan supreme court, had persuaded to resign from it to take the job as police