congress printed some of our traditional authority when it enacted irka in 1986, it preserved sufficient authority through the clause that permits a state to impose sanctions for licensing and similar laws. >> have you entered the anomaly that arizona cannot impose a fine even in modest amounts but it can revoke someone's license to do business? >> your honor, we think -- we don't view it as an anomaly. we think congress established is that the state that party is determined by the nature of the sanction that would choose to impose. we do not have the authority -- they took away our authority to impose civil, monetary, and for all such as but preserved our authority to impose sanctions. >> why would congress want to do that? >> i think it makes sense because in terms of licensing, it provides some accountability because we are the entities that establish policy for our licensees and we are the ones accountable for whether that business remains in business or whether we take away from them. >> congress never expected that the states would have to resort to such massive measures. they prob