think that if the gap between what we say we stand for and what we do becomes too wide, we are irref kraeshlingeakened in the world. either we can stop saying we stands for universal human rights, we can stop saying we stands for democracy, we stand rights. as long as they are saying it and as long as we are standing up and saying, we fight atrocities, signed the genocide treaty, we will defend people against crimes against humanity, my view is at some point, you've got to make good on what you say. if you don't, you have lost your reputation, your capital, your identity as a nation. >> i will ask you the same question i asked you about women in the workforce: are you hopeful that this mass of a world that we are living today, that things will improve? >> i don't think you can be an international lawyer by training and not be hopeful because what you see if you study international law is that it does take decades and cents trees to establish these rules and to cement them so that we have less war in the world now than we have ever had before. it may not feel like it but we actually have less th