i like irreverence. i look for dichotomy in characters and conflict. and i also have never been very good at -- i like playing the provocateur in a film. >> charlie: all about comey and spader when we continue. funding for "charlie rose" is provided by the following. >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> charlie: we begin this evening with our continuing coverage of fbi director james comey fired yesterday by president trump. the dramatic news precipitated calls for an independent investigation into ties between russia and the trump campaign. a depend of justice memo cited comey's handling of the clinton probe as the reason. when asked for a reason president trump gave a simple explanation. >> why did you fire director comey? >> he wasn't doing a good job. he was not doing a good job. >> charlie: joining me now from windshield bob woodward of "the washington post" and dan balz and michael sheer white h

i like irreverence. i look for dichotomy in characters. and i look for conflict. i think i probably looked for that quality in this show that i'm on as somebody-- in raymond reddington. when one is committing to a television series it's a significant commitment. i lie to myself and tell myself that, "oh, if i can't bear it, i can escape somehow." but you can't really. if it's a hit, then you're in trouble. >> rose: it's been on how many years? >> this is the fourth season that's on right now. but i think i was looking for that, looking for somebody who no matter what his life may be and as dire as things might be that he always retain an irreverence or sense of humor, and also a great appreciation for-- which i found so strangely, again, dichotomous in him is the fact that somebody who is dealing in the realm between life and death, that very narrow, narrow strip between life and death, that someone who lives so much of his life in that tiny little median strip has something an enormous appreciation for life. >> glor: "oslo" is the new play from j.t. rogers, and i

and yet, he did it with utter irreverence.ookedhink i probably for that quality in the show that i'm on. raymond redington. when one is committing to a television series, it is a significant commitment. i can escape somehow. how many years? james: the fourth season that's on right now. i think i was looking for that. someone that no matter what his life may be, as dire as it may be, he always retain irreverence and a sense of humor. and a great appreciation for what i found so strangely again. dealing in the realm of life and death. it has such an enormous appreciation for life. it has a true sense of the thatous nature of life all the world has to give. ♪ charlie: and you play these characters, does each one build on the other? i assume that every interview and you should inform another interview i do. they all have their own light that you should learn something and pay attention. is it something about your range and your limits? your interests and -- something i was curious about. and certainly looking for a character to pl

you may be irreverent. there's this unspoken contract with you and the audience. it relieves some of the difficulty of going there and talking about race because the way we talk about race is broken. >> charlie: this gives you a different way to feel it. >> charlie: beyond the idea of timing and knowing the audience what are the other things horror and comedy have in common? >> i think they're both ways in which we deal with the fear of death strangely. this may be going weird and deep -- >> charlie: we like that. >> the rhythm of both have set up a pattern for the audience to suspect a pattern and then you break it in a strategic way. when you break it that's when you get your scare, when you get your laugh. that's the rhythm and timing of it. i don't think it's a coincidence that is a mini allegory for life and death. it's part of the absurdity of existence is we're hear and we have consciousness and then there'll be a break in the pattern. to me they're royalty among genres for that reason. >> charlie: between the idea of writer, director, comedian, of those th

you might be irreverent. there is this unspoken contract with you in the audience.lieves some of the difficulty of going there and talking about race, because i think the way we talk about race is kind of broken. charlie: and this gives you a totally different way to see it. not just talk about it, but you feel it. that's what's interesting. beyond the idea of timing and knowing the audience, what are the other things that horror and comedy have in common? jordan: i think they are both ways in that we deal with the fear of death, strangely. and fears in general. this might be going a couple levels deep -- charlie: we like that. [laughter] jordan: ok. cool. the rhythm of both is to set up a pattern for the audience to suspect and expect a pattern, and then you break it in a strategic way. when you break it, that's when you get your scare or your laugh. i don't think it's a coincidence that is a mini allegory for life and death. it is part of the absurdity of existence. we are here, we have consciousness. then there's going to be this break in the pattern. to me, they

and yet, he did it with utter irreverence. i think i probably looked for that quality in the show that i'm on. raymond reddington. when one is committing to a television series, it is a significant commitment. i like to myself and say that if i cannot bear it i can escape , somehow. but you can't, or you are in trouble. charlie: how many years? james: the fourth season that's on right now. i think i was looking for that. looking for somebody that no matter what is life may be, as dire as it may be, he always retain irreverence and a sense of humor. and a great appreciation for what i found so strangely again, dichotomous in him -- someone dealing in the round between life and death. that narrow strip between life and death. someone who lived so much of his life in that tiny median strip has such an enormous appreciation for life. it has a true sense of the precious nature of life that all the world has to give. ♪ so we need tablets installed... with the menu app ready to roll. in 12 weeks. yeah. ♪ ♪ the world of fast food is b

>> it's license to be irreverent and stupid. >> what advice would you give to your sounger self, 15 years? >> moisturize more. >> did your son know you're a pirate? >> he asks me, do you really hold your breath that long? it's very cute. >> and how would these actors do on the deck of a pirate ship? we tested their pirate knowledge. scallywag. >> miscreant. >> rascal? >> burnt piece of toast? >> no. >> poop deck. >> that is the aft of the ship. >> the back of the boat. >> oh, he's good. >> coxswain. >> one of the crew. >> the captain of the ship. >> the helmsman, yes, the person that steers. let me give you a clue. kick kardashian. >> a hair of high heels. >> no. >> buttox. >> from shanghai, we're rheadin to london for the premiere of "king arthur." director guy ritchie was joined by son rocco, while david beckham brought along brooklyn, and i won't be surprised if we see more of him on the big screen. >> i enjoyed it. where do you want me? bouncing on my knee. >> the former soccer star looks almost unrecognizable with scars and fake teeth in the medieval tale. it's becks second feature f

jack, captain jack; totally irreverent, really doesn't care. just kind after con man.to just be stupid. >> welcome to bay watch, the heart and soul of this very beach. >> bay watch, when the beach community is threatened, played by duane johnson, new guy brody played by sack sake effron, have to team to up save the day. more than slow-mo running. it is about the action and the laughs. >> what we want to do, we want to make sure the action was fun with bay watch. we want to make a movie fun, but lust want to make a move that i had gratings. but we also had the secret weapon. the secret weapon the rated r platform of comedy, that bring people in the theatres, they just have a great time. >> we will have to do what bay watch does best. >> for entertainment tonight i'm nancy odel, now, back to you in the studio. >> also got to tell if you was exciting day for one lucky contestant on the price is right. ryan bell from pennsylvania set all time record playing plinko yesterday. penn state alum had the whole audience chanting his name. he won $31,500 beating the old record of

his doctors said, quote, he was fitful, irreverent and grossly profane. since then it has been widely accepted that the change in gage's behavior was directly tied to his brain injury and it is important because it linked specific behavior to a specific part of the brain, the prefrontal cortex, so it was the first case documented to tie frontal lobe injury to behavioral changes. from this spring this idea that if you sustain brain damage, particularly in the frontal lobe you may experience mild to profound changes in your personality and those changes, you can use them as a criminal defense. decades of research following the gauge incident confirm the ideas at the frontal lobe is the area we have executive function and certain behaviors tied to that area and if the frontal lobe is damaged it can impair your judgment but that is not enough to make a legal case. not enough for a legal defense with an insanity defense which is used in court is very rarely required that a person cannot understand or appreciate the nature or consequences of their actions as th

printed out the paper and sent it and he filled out the question -- >> it sounds like a sort of irreverent tone is that right? >> russia is full of fear and when people are laughing you are not full of fear. we want them to be brave, not to feel fear. >> i read some articles you told the daily beast and you try to experiment and watched about a week of state tv and said it's changing my views. you check into the hotel and he wanted to see how it would change the mind. he quit and cheated, you logged in and drink too much. we know tv is powerful but for advice in washington and the u.s. because we want to separate the russian media but tv is expensive and it's hard. the trick is it was created in the business. the people that are running it in asia started in the 1990s, so a bit of propaganda. we are not concerned with people in a main source. you may be able to change especially if you are talking about. you shouldn't predate with the russian speaking media. i don't believe in any anti-propaganda that one can win a lot of. he invested billions so you're waking up in the 2014. they are watc

>> it sounds like your site has sort of a irreverent tone to it. >> my point is that russia is full of fear, and when people are laughing, they do not feel fear. we want them to be brave and not to feel fear and not to be scared. >> that is powerful. >> i read some articles -- you told the daily beast that you went back home and you try to experiment. you turned on the tv and watched a week of state tv and you said it is changing my views. a russian-american had tried something similar. he would check into a new york hotel and had kobe beef and watched a lot of alcohol and watched russian tv to see how it would change his mind and he quit. -- he drankrn on too much. question.serious we know that tv is powerful and that most russians watch it. what advice do you have for us in washington and in the west, because it is really tricky. we want to support independent russian media, but tv is expensive and it's hard to get a tv license. should we focus on supporting online projects like medusa? where should we put our monday -- our money? >> the trick with russian television is that you are

aring the me, brian, that they are trying to shrug it off as the president n their words, being irreverent or extemporaneous. but they know there are real consequences for these kinds of comments. >> we are going to come back to the politics of it because it is an interesting question about fellow republicans right now. jeremy bash, to you. given your life' work in this realm, what is the real danger? it was said today the word "honor" will have great meaning when it rattles around and reaches north korea. >> the great danger brian in this is that kim jong-un will misinterpret this not as the extemporaneous comments of the president trying to describe what he sees as the situation but actually as american foreign policy in which we now believe that the dictator of north korea is smart and that he is to be honored and that he is worthy of the honor of the americans and of the entire world. that will embolden kim jong-un. fundamentally what kim jong-un is looking to do, he is looking to get more out of using these dangerous weapons. i think these comments tonight handed him exactly the lever

politics about president trump's abilities to go off script and have these once gifted moments and be irreverent occasionally. in this trip, but especially now here at the vatican, but we saw was a deep sense of reverence and diplomacy and respect. >> leland: how does that play in the united states? you have president trump who has come in, some social conservatives, many catholics were solely counting on the president related to the supreme court, he came through for them on that with justice gorsuch. there were other questions in terms of what he was going to deliver. does this meeting, even if it wasn't perfectly harmonious, does this sort of reaffirm the president's commitment to the religious conservatives who were instrumental in putting him in office? >> i think it sums a strong message. i also thought that president trump, whatever his relationship with christ or his church, we heard it during the campaign, two corinthians, ham handedly, that was a funny moment. believing he had such strong support i think among american christians is because they believed that he would be defenders of t

. >> it sounds like your site has a sort of irreverent tone to it, is that right? >> my point is that russia unfortunately is full of fear. and when people are laughing, they do not feel fear. and we want them to be brave, not to feel fear, not to be scared. >> that's powerful, it's recall powerful. ivan, you told the daily beast, you went back home, you turned on the tv and watched a week of state tv, and you said, my god, it's changing my views. a russian writer tried something similar, he checked into a new york hotel, ate kobe beef, wanted to see if he changed his mind. he cheated, he logged into lente.ru, he drank too much. >> just like me. >> we know that tv is powerful, most russians watch it. what advice do you have for us here in washington and in the west? because it's really tricky. we want to support independent russian media, but tv is expensive, it's hard to get a tv license. should we focus on supporting online projects like meduza? where should we be putting our money? >> you shouldn't be focused on creating new television, because, you know, the tr

that is the irreverent reverence we have to what are the fit sicks of the bomb building this building look like, and what you come out with is a splotch of red, yellow and green, which is not consent there can because of the -- concentric because of the physics of the tarring and the thickness of the walls so looks like a bug splat. we have done the bug splat. but can never be sure. structural weakness, walk out of the house or something. what it look like with a couple of hellfires in a much smaller weapon 20-pound versus 500. well, we bring them in this way. all the energy away from the family quarters, so family quarters are fine. if we hit the right room in thee guest house, we'll get all the bad guys but niece internal walls can be thick and if we don't hit the right'm or one is up taking a piss -- there's a long pause in the room. finally the one responsible for the decision speaks. use hellfires the way you said. and officer leaves the room, in route to the op center with the message. there's another long pause. tell me about these guys again? sir, big al qaeda operators and we

i thought it was great, funny, irreverent and it takes you back if you want to a predominantly whitetitution as i did. but this series is great because you get to delve into each of the characters a little more. how did it come about that you were able to take that film and turn it into this series? >> it really was this kind of organic process. i started tinkering with the idea in the back of my head while we were touring with the film. i just felt there was so much that was kind of left on the floor, so many stories that had to get cut out for time, so many characters that i didn't get to develop. going around the world frankly and having conversations with people, it just inspired so many more stories and narratives that i felt i had to bring to the culture. lion's gate asked me have you been thinking about a show and it just so happens i had. >> what are you doing justin, got anything to do? do this series. it's also prophetic. it's funny that people freaked out about this film as if it's just sort of an outrage upon white america when, in fact, in real life right now you guys op

it's fun and irreverent and cool.n't going into it. other than like every kid, in my backyard, trying to fight with my big brother. a lot of swoord trard training. not only to learn the choreography. but to make sure mistakes don't happen on set. i've done a lot of itting on sets. and i've broken a couple of noses in my career. i've given out back eyes. that's bad when it happens. we can laugh about it a week later. if you -- yeah. thankfully nothing happened here. if an accident happens when you're swordfighting -- >> are they real swords? >> we would have a sword with a blunted edge. but they're heavy swords. and plastic swords. i would break the plastic swords. we ended up graduating to the metal towa aal swords. you make a mistake, it's a big mistake. >> when they told you, this role is going to happen, the 10-year-old boy inside of you going nuts? or is this something you wanted to do? >> it was. when i was circling around what i wanted to do with my life, as a young, young man, as a child, we all dream about wha