there is some irrhodium in that as well that comes out of the catalytic converters. our primary products are platinum and palladium. if the price of platinum goes up $1 we produce about 150,000 ounces and that would be $150,000 to our top line immediately, just as soon as that dollar goes up. same thing with palladium. but if the palladium price goes up a dollar, i kind of get three times that. i got 350,000 ounces of palladium, so i'd get $350,000 of additional revenue. most of that would go right through the bottom line. we do have some fees and there are some taxes we have to pay but for the most part that goes right down through to the pretax line. >> tom: a look at platinum and palladium from the minor himself, frank mcallister, c.e.o. of stillwater mining. >> thank you very much, tom. >> tom: most of us probably are just starting to think about halloween. but for toymakers, the holiday season countdown already is underway. it's a fierce fight every season, battling for attention and profits in an increasingly crowded field. erika miller was on the case today, c