guest: when you look at the irs union, they lean to the left. host: the irs and people who cover the irs say the irs budget -- i want to read to you a quote about economic policy reporter madeleine know. here's what she reported. the irs budget has been cut nearly 20% since 2010. the agency's ability to modernize technology. in 2010, the irs had about 90,000 employees. that number dipped to about 78,000 employees in 2021. some of the agency's computer still run on coble. a programming language that dates back to the 1960's. it sounds like the irs needs some money just to date their system and their number of employees has dropped. would you disagree with the idea that the irs needs money to modernize? guest: have you ever heard a government agency say they have enough money? they are always going to complain about a lack of funding. even with this new recession, probably five years down the line, they are going to be saying they needed funding back then. there is never enough money. they are always looking at getting more. i am not sure of the sp

host: it would be the irs employees union: for this review, even before this announcement, correct? guest: correct. the union conducts this type of review because some of the members are reporting that they are feeling unsafe. one of the things is for the irs to minimize, for the time being, some of the interactions that irs employees will have face-to-face with taxpayers because employers are concerned about their safety. host: more phone calls, more waiting on the phone? less in person meetings? guest: others michael out into the field or the irs has taxpayer spending, there are thoughts that may be some employees want to minimize the spending in person. host: when with the last time there was a review like this, the last time the irs was so concerned about threats that they did some sort of security upgrade? guest: the last time the irs did a security review was in the wake of the bombing of the federal facility in oklahoma city. host: and what was the result of that? guest: i'm not sure. host: one of the reasons that you cite with the inflation reduction act. specifically, the i

the irs union love the inflation reduction act. why wouldn't they double the size?but why, again, is joe biden hiring all of these agents. what are they there to do? they are there to get to work and we have seen time and again operates and how it gets to work it protects the wealthy. the powerful. without thinking about you. the ultra rich and powerful don't play by the same set of rules as you and me. they have inside access to the system and protection from the left. and they always use it to their benefit. people like nancy pelosi and pauly p. and hunter biden flaunt their corruption in our faces without fear of any real consequences because they know that the rules do not apply. the pelosis can make perfectly timed stock trades, no one will bat an eye. hunter can make millions and millions from clearly corrupt businessmen and countries, use his dad's connection to get rich. give 10% to the big guy. he can be reckless. he can lose laptops, can he smoke crack. can he sleep with hookers. do you really think hunter is worried? definitely not. he may be investigated

labor unions today are representing irs agents. re one spending item i -- their number one spending item is politics. let's not -- government unions are the number one special interest group. there are the number one funder of liberal politicians in america. they are taking this money from the every day public employee. the national education association's budget, it was less than 10% of their budget being spent on representing teachers. the rest of the budget was politics and 501(c) fours. government unions are the biggest special interest group in america. host: when you say that the irs is being used by democratic administrations to target conservative groups, is the same thing happening in conservative administrations? caller: i have not seen -- guest: i have not seen any evidence of it. i have never seen an irs go after liberal groups in america. i have never seen the irs taking exempt status from liberal groups. i have not seen an instance of it. host: ok. let's talk to? is calling from columbus, ohio on the republican line --

. >> reporter: the president of the irs workers union in chicago is telling members to hide their badges when they leave the building. >> it's really unfortunate because we are public servants. >> progress does come. >> reporter: the inflation reduction act includes $80 billion in new funding for the irs over the next 10 years. the biden administration says the money is meant to hire new workers after years of underfunding and help prevent high income earners from cheating on their taxes. some conservatives have falsely claimed the agency plans to hire 87,000 mostly armed agents. >> those irs agents are designed to come after you. >> it's joe biden's new army. >> are they going to have a strike force that goes in with ak-15s loaded ready to shoot some small business person in iowa >> reporter: in reality, only a fraction of irs employees work on criminal investigations and carry firearms >> words have power. and they have consequences and they're putting federal employees, your fellow americans, in danger by saying this. >> reporter: john coskanin is a former irs commissioner who faced r

this has a surprise for the union that represents irs employees. esents 150,000 federal employees, and when the irs gets its share of ira dollars it could represent another 87,000, that is the number the agency act supports. that is not all, on top of that the union gives 97% of pack money to democrat campaign coffers, raising 288,000 in the 2019 campaign cycle that according to americans for tax reform, which says of the 609,000 in spending on federal candidates, overwhelming proportion, 97.04%, people, went to democrats, listen. >> call it inflation bill. it used to be called an environmental bill. they changed the name but the whole point is fund the modern democratic party, political machine at the state level, at the local level through unions. >> reporter: digging deeper atr found that beneficiaries of the union's largesse include house speaker nancy pelosi, representative pramila jayapal, maxine waters, sheila jackson lee, dick durbin and jon ossoff. the irs employee union prioritized political donations to democrats who happen to be in 2022

katy, i've been speaking with the president of the irs employees union in chicago. says that employees feel that they are under threat, that they're extremely concerned, that she is urging them to actually hide their badges when they lead the building because of this increase in threats. she says that words have power and she is disappointed to see that republicans have been, you know, saying what she says is misinformation here. again, that letter coming yesterday. the irs commissioner undergoing now a comprehensive review of 600 or so irs facilities throughout the country, katy. >> even just shoring up the physical security around those buildings. if you want a glimpse of just what the irs is do el with, google irs cafeteria. that's all you have to do. >>> president biden is about to tell millions of americans some good news. the student loan announcement that will cancel a lot of debt for a lot of you. we're going to go live to the white house. plus kids are scared, parents are skup set and one man might be about to lose his job. what's happening in uvalde ahead

some of them, with threats directed at the irs, the president of the irs workers union in chicago is because one public servants. >> joyce, they are public servants, you sir once gave. you saw political fury take hold, and be aimed at so many different institutions. >> we should be clear about where this comes from. this is the logical out growth of trump's insistence on denigrating federal agents, federal employees, while he was president. he did not unsung collisions to deal with prosecutors, members of the intelligence community, and now, spreading into law enforcement, as well as the fbi and this is, really, an important ways, an issue that republicans should've focused on long ago, but failed to. this is the destruction of our democratic institutions. institutions we rely upon to keep our communities safe. when people can no longer trust police, no longer trust law enforcement, the system tends to break apart. it is difficult for agents to live through this, but i suspect in the most difficult thing is knowing, this will make it more difficult for them to do their jobs, and diff

irs belong to it. your member what reagan did to the air traffic control union. as far as guns goes, the irs consist of an examination which is your revenue agents and tax auditors, your collection which is what i did, customer service area in your criminal investigation area. which is less than half of the total irs employees. them are the only people issued any type of a firearm. as fire -- as far as the hiring of these 80,000 people goes, it is going to take a long time because they are going to be looking at people that either are cpas or people with accounting degrees, or people who previously worked for the irs or people who work for tax agencies that work with the irs. it is going to take a long time for that to happen. thank you for your time and i just wanted to get the guy straight. he was wrong on a lot of stuff. host: tony calling from flower town, pennsylvania on the independent line. tony, good morning. caller: good morning. appreciate the opportunity. i am glad that a lot of callers are calling in to talk about the previous guest airing in the many

represents about 70,000 irs employees, they found at the union'sl action committee and donated more than $600,000 in a recent campaign cycle. 97% of all that money went to democrats. that unions about a double in size, what are all those agents going to do? they are going to collect new taxes on the country. that would never happen back in march. >> nobody earning less than $400,000 a year will pay an additional penny in new taxes. not a single penny. >> brian: and the crowd roared. according to congresses joint committee on taxation the bill the democrats just past will raise taxes for more than 90% of taxpayers making between 75100000.97% of americans making between $10,200,000 will get a tax hike. some of the tax hike comes in form of the 401(k) you might have. americans for tax reform reports there is a $124 billion tax on stock buybacks in the bill which will hurt americans in retirement accounts. according to congresses joint committee on taxation, there is also a $12 billion tax on crude oil along with a $1.2 billion tax on coal. that means

host: it would be the irs employees union: for this review, even before this announcement, correct?uest: correct. the union conducts this type of review because some of the members are reporting that they are feeling unsafe. one of the things is for the irs to minimize, for the time being, some of the interactions that irs employees will have face-to-face with taxpayers because employers are concerned about their safety. host: more phone calls, more waiting on the phone? less in person meetings? guest: others michael out into the field or the irs has taxpayer spending, there are thoughts that may be some employees want to minimize the spending in person. host: when with the last time there was a review like this, the last time the irs was so concerned about threats that they did some sort of security upgrade? guest: the last time the irs did a security review was in the wake of the bombing of the federal facility in oklahoma city. host: and what was the result of that? guest: i'm not sure. host: one of the reasons that you cite with the inflation reduction act. specifically, the irs

a new report finds that the irs employee union gives 100% of its political action committee funding toemocrat congressional campaign committee, $30,000 to the democrat senatorial campaign committee, another $30,000 to the democrat national committee. mark, no wonder they want more irs agents. it's going to mean more money to the democrats. >> of course. of course they donated all their money to democrats. look, 80 to 90% of the new expected revenues from this irs project, if you call it that, are going to come from single shingle, small businesses making less than $200,000 per year and that's according to the bipartisan joint committee on taxation. and guess what, maria and dagen. most of those people vote republican. we're talking about plumbers, we're talking the owners of hair salons, restaurants, small businesses that are likely filing on schedule c. so they're llcs, they're sole proprietors, they're partnerships and when you think about all of this that's going on right now, i mean, just let this sink in. we are going to be beating up small businesses, which are the heartbeat of a

ea i mean, the national treasury employees union represents abouttitiun seventy thousand irs employees. the americans for tax reformir found that the unions a political action committee donated more than six hundred thousand dollarsctte and recent campaign cycle. 97%n of all that money went to democrats. now that union is about to double in size. what are all those ages going to do once they're hired? aside from donated democrats with your tax dollars? for one thing, they're going to collect new taxes on individuals in this country. keep in mind that joe biden promised that would never happen back in march. none of my plan, nobody h will say this again.ap i nobody earning less than fourn hundred thousand a year will pay an additional y in new taxes, not a single penny. a and the crowd roared. re sod according to the congress, to congressro joint committee on taxation, the bill that b democrats just passed will raise taxesil. more than 90% of taxpayersay making between seventy five thousander and one hundred thousand dollars and more than 97% of americans making between one hundred and

i want to get the read from joe pinchman from the national taxpayer union foundation. i mean, 87,000 irsize of the work force at the irs. we've seen this cycle before where the irs pleads poverty and says take the leash off of us and we'll go off to the millionaires and then they realize that's not who is going to fight -- that those people fight back. they go after the mid clash and people get outraged and then congress does that. we're starting the cycle all over again. it's unfortunate congress has not learned anything. >> charles: you bring up a great point. billionaires have the best accountants out there. they write the rules. there's very few irs agents that can compete with those folks. they have to train their eyes somewhere else for this money and to legitimize it in a sense. so what happens now? what happens with all of these agents that will descend upon america? >> according to statistics, you know what gets the most dollar per hour of staff time. it's going after low income people. because they don't fight back. they usually just pay. the whole irs 100% enforcement mindset

sorry. >> the national treasury employees union will stand to get allotted more members, first of all, irsional taxpayers employees union i should correct i believe 97% of its money to democrats. so,, there is clearly going to be more money, for the union and you know what with a union gives political contributions to nancy pelosi, dick durbin progressive leaders who will profit politically, from this. maria: wow hypocrisy so rich pointing out this week we have 166,000 irs agents versus 19 or 20,000 border agents just extraordinary the way they completely ignore some of the issues that are important to the american people, it including corruption. we've got new emails revealing hunter biden longtime business partner eric as we aren sheer ip working to solicit donations for a former top biden adviser congressional campaign also working on chinese business deals with advisories business partner, so the business partner had ties to some of the highest levels of the communist party of china, byron, here we have a situation where china and communist party is the number one adversary of the unit

conservative groups, remember lois learner years back, go after conservative groups because the union that runs the irso democratic candidates. they will all enroll in that union. a terrible left wing bias. this is what newt gingrinch calls big government socialism, expansion of big government socialism, through the regulatory state, and look at, just as a matter of common sense, we have a big inflation problem and we have big recession threat. this bill coming back to the bill does nothing to solve the inflation problem, sending 7, $800 billion. >> sandra: will it bring down inflation at all? >> larry: i don't see why or how. we'll have an inflation problem for quite some time, probably several years. we are going to spend more. look, if you add the chips plus bill, close to $300 billion, plus this bill, which is close to $700 billion, that's a trillion dollars in federal spending. now look at. i thought there was a consensus in washington that overspending caused the inflation or contributed heavily to the inflation. now, all of a sudden we have forgotten about that and passed two big spending bills,

irs. it is a remarkable expansion, in addition to the union that the treasury union that these individuals go into over which 90 percent of that union support goes to democrats. for the republicans, i have to say, for the republicans to allow to it get to this point there, are more than just sinema and manchin. there are 48 our democrat senators s. there no effort to get any other democrat to say never mind considering what's going to happen in november, to the democrats? are the republicans doing anything to switch anybody else over? >> absolutely every single day and every one of our committees and trying to build bipartisan support for the good of the american people and you know, were you talking about joe manchin and all this talk about him having to stress, he went back on his word. he ought to have second thoughts. he said he would never support build back broke but they have broken this into pieces and they pass some of it in chips. they pass some in infrastructure. now they come with the mother of $739 billion and look at that money $80 billion into expanding the irs, $64 billion

irs guys? they are making the unions happy because the unions are going to have 84,000 new members, so it all goes back to for whom do the bells toll? i'm not against unions, but, nobody is saying it, nobody is saying it but that's who they're taking care of. >> i love in new york city i'm not a big fan of unions i'll say that, john, but the other thing we're seeing on one side you've got the democrats pushing through again, 700 billion-plus, right? we had all that stimulus last year. then he blamed the stimulus spending from last year for the reason we're seeing such high inflation right now, whether it was oil & gas prices which have come back down to be clear, or food inflation, shelter inflation, you and i were together on wednesday when the cpi report broke in the studio actually, and the breakdown, everything was higher except for oil & gas. i will give you credit though you did say you thought oil & gas was going to peak. now you've got a new prediction. >> well, we predicted a few weeks ago that oil prices have peaked and they are headed down. they are down to the 90s, and if we opened up

there is a -- to who they go after the union that represents irs agents gived one hundred percent of party organizations, so, you are looking at a one party union that controls the workers there in terms of whether or not defending them with leak if they look at stuff not supposed to look at protecting people who break the law nobody has grown to jail has got in trouble making 15,000 different audits, showing them left-wing group republica, keeping that secret not doing anything about people who broke the law. dagen: well said grover thank you so much for covering all that for us today great to see -- grover norquist. >> we'll be right back. . as an expedia member you earn points on your travels, and that's on top of your airline miles. so you can go and see... or taste or do absolutely nothing with all those bubbles. without ever wondering if you're getting the most out of your trip. because you are. this is xfinity rewards. our way of showing our appreciation. with rewards of all shapes and sizes. [ cheers ] are we actually going? yes!! and once in a lifetime moments. two tickets t

irs. it is a remarkable expansion. in addition to the union, the treasury union that thesein individuals go into over which 90% ofni that union support goes to democrats. it is it's for the republicans, i have to saysay,, for the republicans to allow it to get to this point. there are more than just cinema and mansion. there are j 48 other democrator senators. is there not effort to get any other democrat to to to say never mind considering what's going to happen in november to the democrats? are the republicans doing anything to switch anyone else over a oh, absolutely.ol every single day and every one of our committees and trying to build bipartisann support for a go to the american people. were talking you about joe manchin and all thiss talk about him having destress back on his word. he ought to be having second thoughts. he said he would never support a bill that broke, but they have broken this into pieces and they passed some of it in chips. t they passed some of it in infrastructure. and now hereey they come with te mother lode of sev

irs is unpopular. it's very different now when, you know, i talk to a union leader earlier today in chicago who said, whenut to lunch i tell them take their i.d. badges off because i don't want folks seeing while out and about it says irs and they work there. that could make them a target. the irs sometimes rents office space in private buildings. there is concern are those -- do those buildings have the same security apparatus in place as federal buildings. there's all kinds of issues like that. the irs workforce is overwhelmingly older than the rest of the federal government. it's going to see a lot of retirements in the next ten years. but they were hoping to hold on to the experts and the most senior officials among the rank and file while this money gets phased in to improve the agency. one of the things we're seeing now is folks saying, i'm not putting up with this. i don't feel like being threatened. i don't feel like being harassed. i don't want my family to worry about me. i don't want to be a target. i'm done. that is a significant mood shift among the rank and file. >> jacob, from "the washingt

not unlike the irs hiring 87,000 new irs agents funding the public sector union that funds the democraticte: these universities could be classified based on size of endowments as giant hedge funds that hold classes. billions and billions of dollars and decide to give their money institutionally or mostly through professors or others there, goes overwhelmingly to the left wing. why not give them a few more dollars. will: few more? pete: you're throwing out the 1s? i'm throwing out the 500s. you get a loan, yours is forgiven. i paid mine so i don't get any. rachel, this is for you. that's a one. rachel: that's not helping me with all the college tuition i have in front of me. great off the wall as usual, guys. we begin with this: police arresting a man for allegedly trying to buy a young girl from her parents for $100,000. officials say the suspect approached the family at a florida grocery store. earlier this month with the proposal that was should being, they say this is not the first time that the registered sex offender tried to purchase a child. disgusting. back in 2018, he reportedly

union, he is brandon arnold. great to have you on. what do you think of the florida plan to protect its own state taxpayers against irs audits after democratsency? they're talking about setting up state money, legal help to help defend state taxpayers against irs audits. the other one it would force irs agents to get florida state licenses to operate in the state. can they do that? that sounds like a big states rights fight? >> yes, it is a great question and i think based on my initial analysis of this, talking to some tax attorneys i think that is dubious provision of this plan. let's not lose the forest for the trees here. what is important, florida is fighting back, fighting back with the right way, better policies that will shine some sunlight on what the irs is doing, like you said, help small businesses fight back against the irs. so many small businesses unfortunately don't have the resources when they're audited, when they get nasty letters from the irs to fight back. thanks to this provision in the florida law, they will be empowered to do just that. elizabeth: one of the ideas to make florida state chartered banks send any indica

irs. one of the other interesting plans in this bill to reduce inflation is to force more americans to join a union. now, i have to tell you, i have no angst against unions. unions are a choice. those individuals should be able to choose to join a union, be part of collective bargaining. that's an american right and privilege. let me say this, 10.3% of the american workforce is union. 10.3%. the energy portion of this bill, which is billions and billions and billions of dollars, in the energy portion of this bill unions get billions of dollars, nonunion workers get nothing. so if you work in the energy sector right now, and you're not a union employee, you're about to get cut out. because the way this bill is written, it gives federal payouts to companies that use union laborers, which will make nonunion energy companies country competitive and will force them out of business or force them to unionize. this should be called the mandatory union bill of 2022, not the inflation reduction act. because i'm not sure how forcing more people into a union reduces inflation, but that's a major portion of thi

teachers unions, science community, medical community can no longer define what is a woman. cdc, irs. i challenge you. the cdc is done. if not formally, stuart, in effect. americans cannot simply take cdc guidance that it is free of influence of teachers union. not just that they got it wrong. pandemics are hard to predict, we make mistakes. many saw the mistakes as they were being made. you werefieded by the teachers union and biden administration. you do not get to come back out in another year give us guidance we'll take blindly on faith. you have lost the american public. stuart: well-said. i asked for fire, look what i got, furnace, that is really very cool. another one for you, the white house claims vigorously that the department of justice is not politicized after this raid thing. watch this. >> i cannot speak to that. it would be inappropriate for me to speak on that because the president has been very clear and unequivocal about this when it comes to law enforcement matters, investigation, the department of justice has complete, complete independence. i'm just not going to

irs. that money spent toward enhancing tax enforcement, enhancing, we are using that word now, hiring additional 87,000 new agents, joining me now national taxpayers union the tre treasury secretary janet yellen admitted to clarify the funding plan but it's an admission in what she said that the money will go toward auditing people who make less than $400,000 a year. >> yeah, the legislative language is advisory in nature and non-binding, let's not affect those people and not audit them and republicans in the senate in particular try to strengthened the language by introducing amendment, no additional audits for people making less than $100,000 and unanimously rejected by democrats. here is the kicker, it would have had 20 million-dollar impact. how can a provision that has no impact to amount of audits according to democrats have no impact according to cbo. it doesn't make sense. dagen: here is what janet yellen wrote, she said the $80 billion, quote, shall not be used to increase the share of small business or households below the 400,000-dollar threshold that are audited and the journal wrote about this yesterday. yellen is promising only that new au