senator isaacman. >> i al ppologize that i'm late. i want to thank secretary rumsfeld and ambassador negroponte for your service in the military. i saw you in baghdad in the most difficult days of o you are conflict there and both of you deserve tremendous credit for your service to the country. mr. bill jer and mr. groves, i am not an attorney. i love listening to attorneys going back and forth but i have a university of virginia law school intern for the summer. i posed the question of the veto and i said i want you to read this thing and research thing. some people say we've got a veto and some people say now you see it and now you don't. he did a beautiful paper for me answered want to read two quotes from the treaty and then i'd like both of you to comment on it as it relates to this question of do we have a veto or do we not. one is that the veto is the -- the consensus as defined by the treaty is the absence of any which means if there was a proposal before either the council or the assembly, as long as nobody objected, they ha