kind of interesting if you go back and, if you googled musk around isaacson in march, isaacson gave an essentially compared musk to jobs, being a risk-taker that could transform the way we do business. musk obviously in terms of tesla being an electric vehicle and his space exploration company, spacex. the one thing i will say here, two points. number one, isaacson is not definite here. he will meet with him a few times and then he will decide whether he wants to do it. one thing i think that could get him not to do this book is if he really looks at musk, he starts saying, is this really steve jobs? when he did the jobs biography, jobs came back to apple, saved it from bankruptcy and established apple as this iconic company in terms of how we communicate and how we entertain. it is, i don't know if tesla is quite that right now. despite its lofty stock valuation, much higher than any car company, tesla has not broken, is just breaking even now. apple is, you know, and was when jobs did the, during the jobs biography when isaac sown -- isaacson was, apple was the world's biggest compan

isaacson has done that recently on a yahoo finance piece done an interview with him , should put up thete, it's a fascinating quote, in some ways he's the steve jobs of our time and crazy enough to think he can change the world and might be one of the ones who do change the world. one of the problems with that is , liz, is that when mr. isaacson did the book on jobs, he already came back to apple, saved it out of bankruptcy and transformed the company into this iconic company that dominates how we communicate and listen to music and you name it. it was a transformative company. i don't think you could say that about tesla right now. not only does elon musk -- liz: yes you can. we're going to fight about this again? charlie: i don't drive a tesla. i do have an iphone but i don't drive a tesla. that's the problem. liz: we're coming right back. . . seeing blood when you brush or floss can be a sign of early gum damage. new parodontax active gum repair kills plaque bacteria at the gum line to help keep the gum seal tight. new parodontax active gum repair toothpaste. so many people are overw

. >>> thanks so much walter isaacson now, author of the book "code breaker" widely held as the authority. walter's also a cnbc contributor. thank you so much. how big of a breakthrough is this >> this is huge, particularly because it will allow this type of treatment to be affordable. over the past couple of years, they've used crispr to do things like cure sickle cell, but that meant taking the cells out of the body, stem cells out of the body, editing them, and putting them back, and that can cost a million dollars a treatment. clearly when you have a widespread disease, you want to be able to just do it in the body dr. jennifer doudna, who meg just interviewed, it was her company intellia, and she has been at the forefront of saying how do we make this gene editing technology affordable, and that's what this breakthrough is about. >> where does this go from here, and what other breakthroughs would you anticipate >> look, the great thing will be all sorts of simple genetic diseases, and there are a lot of them muscular dystrophy, cystic fibrosis, sickle cell, huntington's disease i'll

will isaacson write musk's biography? stuart: write his own.e will write his own biography. that is the one people will want to read. stuart: did you read isaacson's book on jobs? i did. lauren: i loved it. two years to write. 40 interviews. that came through in the writing. stuart: it was brilliant. it was thorough. it was long. it was in detail, in depth. he caught that guy. he caught steve jobs for what he was, who he was, how he worked. very good. i love to see him do musk. that would be priceless. lauren: whoever does it will fly off the shelves. he has a following. stuart: we're moving on because i see the dow down 136 points. there have got to be some big movers here, lauren. what do you have? lauren: not on the dow. biogen, they're down because lawmakers are investigating the approval of their new as heimer's drug, $56,000 a year without much clinical data to back it up. that would generate five billion in sales. that stock is down 2.75%. on flip side, intelia therapeutics, up 41%. partnership with regeneron. a phase one study of a gene

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walter isaacson, thanks so much. >>> covid watch, and growing concerns about the delta variant spreading. in australia, officials in several cities announce new restrictions aimed at getting the highly-contagious strain under control. sydney is now in full lockdown for the first time since the pandemic began in south africa, cases are up as well and data shows the delta variant appears to be fueling the surge. last night the president there extended the nightly curfew and banned all alcohol sales in israel, the government just reimposed its indoor mask mandate and asked people to avoid traveling abroad delta cases have been rising there over the past two weeks. but during that time, health officials recorded one covid death, an encouraging sign the nation's high vaccination rates are helping prevent the most serious covid cases here in the united nations the cdc reports 57% of all adults are now fully vaccinated scott gottlieb told cnbc that the country may never get to zero daily cases, but he says the worst of the pandemic is likely behind us, even as delta spreads. >> i don't think we

and kerry, walter isaacson is one of the guests for this hour and he joins us now and has a question's a great report and you talked about how great the rescue teams are. i was wondering what type of new technologies after 9/11, after we've seen super storm sandy, many collapses, are there new technologies and ways that should be spread around fema, just like we should have had the centers for disease control a little bit more prepared? because we're going to see a lot more of these types of collapses? >> reporter: walter, good question. it's not necessarily new technology but it's one piece they have here, which is a camera, it does not look like any camera you've ever seen, it's a long thin line that that they can thread in through the debris and make its way through. another piece of equipment they have not deployed yet is infra red, it can pick up signatures of heat. they said they were not using that equipment just yet because they were using the listening devices to hear for the tapping and the type of equipment that can maybe pick up somebody breathing. it's important to note

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by the way, walter isaacson is here, jonathan lemire at the table, alexi mccanon joins us this morning. so here again is what former vice president mike pence said last night to new hampshire's hillsborough county republicans about the january 6th attack on the capitol. >> january 6th was a dark day isn't the history of the united states capitol. but thanks to the swift action of the capitol police and federal law enforcement, violence was quelled. the capitol was secured. and that same day, we reconvened the congress and did our duty under the constitution and the laws of united states. you know, president trump and i have spoken many times since we left office. of and i don't know if we'll ever see eye to eye on that day. but i will always be proud of what we accomplished for the american people over the last four years. [ applause ] is and i will not allow democrats or their allies in the media to use one tragic day to discredit the aspirations of millions of americans. >> you know, it's like -- >> you know, jonathan lemire, sure. sure. donald trump knew that mike pence's life was i

. >> have you read isaacson's book code breaker >> no, no, it's good isn't it?> all about the personalities, as he does delving into the lives of people making this new chapter of american medicine, global medicine. >> you don't win the nobel prize for doing nothing. that's one of the things i've learned. i'm early on that. i not unlike david when you kacald me out on president trump about to win the nobel prize for making the relations between north korea, south korea stabilize. i was early on that too. >> yeah, you were, early and wrong, which is you know, not necessarily something -- that doesn't happen with you. you know, jim -- you do. you take a shot. you're never shy from taking a shot you may be dead wrong, but you took a shot. >> that was a ben simmons shot. >> you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. >> ben simmons and i have the same record from the free throw line when it came to that particular analysis. >> chris paul from the free throw line, that was a thing of beauty this weekend, right 90 plus percent. >> and scott wattner's team coming throug

senate election a senate seat previously held by johnny isaacson.s year, this january, warnock won the special election we're up in 2022 >> i don't know if you get the nomination is herschel walker in the mix? who else is your republican competition to take on senator warnock down there at this point? >> right now, there are three announced candidates myself along with agriculture commissioner and another gentleman who was a former navy s.e.a.l. a lot of talk about herschel walker jumping in. i have been a fan of his for a long time. this is for a u.s. senate seat we feel we have the best campaign and i'm the best candidate to defeat reverend war warnock. >> as far as infrastructure, and you have seen it because you run a construction firm. is this the right mix of things we are doing and are you gratifying this is mostly infrastructure >> joe, that is what i was concerned about initially. initially, it looked like amalgamation now they carved out a bunch of items. my concern rests with the reconciliation portion it is like the democratic party said