isabel sawhill, another 2.5 million people fell into poverty in 2009. at the risk of asking the obvious, is it unemployment that's driving that number? >> it is definitely unemployment that's driving this increase in poverty rates and leading to the record numbers that you talked about in the lead-in. you know, the very best anti-poverty policy is to have a job. with so many people out of work or having part-time jobs when they'd like full-time work, it's inevitable that the poverty rate is going to go up. we've done some projections of what the poverty rate will be mid decade, a few years from now. if the unemployment projections that most economic forecasters are using hold true. it's a very dismal picture. >> suarez: this is a number, doug besharov, that has been rising since the economy began to suffer several years ago. is there a new poor? is is there a profile for who is joining the ranks of those living under 22,000 for a family of four? >> well, i think, yes, that's right. for as long as we've been collecting statistics about poverty, we've see