this is one thing i remember going to the launch of your imprint, smiley books, and watching isabelle wilkerson on that clip talking about the great migration. we come from a history where literally words were current because they were forbidden. so they were this stolen precious thing that was so particularly and peculiar special to us but when you think over 20 years, the business of creating books, the publishing world has really changed and one of the things you talk about is the need for authors to do more than just have a relationship on the page with their language. they need to think about the industry and how they're going to bring those books to an audience and have that audience fall in love with that work. talk about that. >> i know a person far wider, more -- will be speaking about this very thing. my name is on the imprint, smiley books, by a long-time editor and leader in this industry. is she here? sheryl is the person who runs smiley books and makes all the wise choices every day. but i say three things that occur to me as the guy who -- cornell west. people we have on our rost

today isabelle wilkerson has a marvelous piece, and i recommend everybody to read it in "the times" todaypanic, african-americans, caste systems in general america, which we don't think we have, everything the reverend was just mentioning. but this is a serious story and one people are following. we can always say what about this case and that case and this case? people have carried about this. for ten days this was a florida story. cbs this morning started carrying it. people started really doing it. and at least for the last ten days this has been a media story. everybody in america is blogging about it, talking about, thinking about. it's an opportunity to look at things and in my view go after the silly raw laue in florida of stand your ground which offers too much vigilanteism to stay. it will be an effort to throw that law out in florida just like in the civil rights movement people were trying to throw out jim crow laws. >> at what point, gentlemen, can we effectively talk act a postracial society, beyond racial profilings stated by naacp ceo ben jealous, how many other less obviou