isaiah thomas, and kevin durant are among hundreds of n.b.a. players who passed through five-star. i am pleased to have tom konchalski, and howard garfinkel at this table for the first time. welcome. >> it's an honor to be here, believe me. >> rose: so why do they come to the camp, these young high school wanna-bees? >> why did they? well, they came for three reasons. number one, the exposure that college coaches would come and watch them play. number two, the competition against the best players in the country. and hopefully they came and hopefully this was the paramount reason, for instruction, to become better players because the level of instruction was unparalleled corporate in the country. >> rose: michael jordan said, "the camp changed how i felt about basketball and the future. it was the turning point in my life. i saw all the all-americans and i thought i was the lowest thing on the totem pole but the more i played, the more i thought, maybe i can play with these guys." that does it, too. you can get a chance to size up yourself versus the competition. >> he was tremendous at the ca camp. trichia question. let's see if