ishmael. and in your book the last hours of ancient sunlight is this idea that human beings have separated themselves not only from the natural world the from each other and separation as einstein said is an illusion there's no real end to me in the beginning of you and it's all connected we know that now through the sciences through the entanglement theories from quantum physics and others and other theories and and that theory that philosophy of separation has to be rethought because the ultimate reality is connection you know the mystics in the end are philosophers simply sum it up this way are we brothers and sisters or not and if we're brothers and sisters we ought to take care of each other as brothers and sisters we ought to take what we need and then share and i believe that's how you build a truly wealthy life that wealth is not defined by how much i have accumulated but how much i have been able to to share how much creativity i'm able to share how much love i'm able to share and if

audiences were not accepting of o him, so and then he had a faithful meeting with ishmael reid who taught how to develop those characters as a great satirical writer who still lives in the california. and so, but, and so like you said, he was able to make those characters, a wino and so forth, human and that's why bringing it to the written, the written form is really important because it expresses the humor and humanity of our grandmothers. we all have a mom's mabeley in if our family or a crazy old uncle that we keep locked in the closet, or at least in my family. [laughter] but it's important to rejoice with those characters because they live with all of us. >> so, and i believe our diversity within our community is as important as diversity itself. you know? and so i love the diverse voices. >> yeah, exactly. >> now, let's get into one more thing before we begin to open it up for questions and answers. and we're talking about the history of african-american humor. we've referenced several things including those who write and produce behind the scenes, but more than one comic -- and ch

when maintenance man ishmael strickland found the lifeless figure of a young black boy. >> on the seventh body tossed down into the woods behind a parking lot at a suburban office complex. >> the bank was fairly steep. >> medical examiner joseph burton had to hold on to a rope to get down to the scene. >> he had a ligature mark on his neck like if somebody had a ligature and they were behind you or off to the side behind you and they closed their hands or fists together and pulled the ligature, basically. >> in other words, killed from behind. >> most likely, yes. >> all right. let me place another sample on this side. >> state crime lab scientist larry peterson attended the autopsy. >> i can recall at one autopsy pulling a fiber off of one of the victims. it was a green carpet fiber and mounted the sample on the slide went over and looked under the microscope and it's the same one. >> you knew right then? >> knew right then. >> apparent it's another victim of atlanta's child killer or killers. >> local television carried these pictures live from the crime scene. >> as it was studied it w