this time it's isis.few days after fallujah fell, the president talked about the threat from the terror group in an interview with "the new yorker" magazine. >> he said, "the analogy we use around here sometimes. and i think is accurate, is if a jv team puts on lakers uniforms, that doesn't make them kobe bryant." >> i was disappointed. i was disappointed that he said that. i don't think he was well served. >> the need for intelligence surveillance. >> lieutenant general michael flynn had a front-row seat to the rise of isis. he led the defense intelligence agency until late last year. >> we failed to understand the enemy that we faced. >> flynn says intelligence officials had warned the administration that isis was growing more dangerous before the president made his infamous jv comment. but the president has said the intelligence on isis was inadequate. here he is on "60 minutes." >> how did they end up where they are in control of so much territory? was that a complete surprise to you? >> well, i think

calling for airstrikes against isis. it has now been two years since president obama discussed isis as the jv team. today the administration claims the goal is to degrade and ultimately destroy, but it still doesn't have a strategy to get the job done. the tide has not turned in terms of the growing influence of isis. instead, these fighters on the back of the pickup truck seized the president's term has grown into a global force, a force capable of striking in europe, asia, africa and yet striking here at home in the united states. there are now in terms of groups supporting isis, six isis linked groups on the ground in 21 separate countries and it is everywhere in cyberspace and everywhere in ebbers case it uses the deadly message to kill. ambassador mcgurk just back from the frontlines of syrian kurds limit and encouraging developments paper money in iraq was retaken in december and after some much-needed rules of engagement, isis controlled oil has been finally bombed. this is good. but these games have been too slow

mcgurk: i was just in the streets where they killed isis -- isis 6000 leaders. they killed 6,000 in that battle alone. we've destroyed 400 tanker trucks. the idea that we're just watching this is -- mr. yoho: when they were destroyed? what time? the last six months? mr. mcgurk: last four or five months. >> we've known about this for years. why is ice is having oil production facilities? why are they allowed to produce anything? if we had a clear-cut strategy they would of been destroyed back then. what is the administration's reasoning to continually press refugees from syria and other areas in the middle east to relax the entry requirements into the u.s., especially when france, germany and belgium have documented that over 70 have an 80 isis members entered the eu through syria with fake passports and know where the people that did the shootings in paris. why is this administration hell-bent on relaxing these on -- relaxing these restrictions? what is the reasoning for that? mr. mcgurk: that is going to continue. >> the fbi director and jeh johnson say there i

there are now, in terms of groups supporting isis, there are 50 isis-linked groups on the ground in 21 separate countries. and it is everywhere in cyberspace. and everywhere in cyberspace, it spews that deadly message to kill. ambassador mcgurk, just back from the front lines with syrian kurds, will note some encouraging developments. needed loosening of the rules of engagement am a isis controlled oil installations in syria have been finally boned -- bombed, which is good. but these gains have been's too slow to come. it draws recruits to plot new attacks abroad, including the united states. meanwhile, the iraqi government haven't been able to deliver as it should. key to any success, do not trust baghdad as they have failed to include them in the government and the armed forces in a meaningful way. and across the region, the u.s. is perceived -- the perception there is we are only willing to back non-sunnis. this only empowers isis and militarily the size of the recently announced special operations force to target isis leadership is a fraction of what past efforts have entailed. onl

so,ni you know, isis is social media. isis is probably not a group that does much irony. these are american media forms and isis is very much benefited from this, social media companies like twitter are becoming much more aggressive in terms of use. you can't putke messages on twitterr that insight violence and much of what isis does is insight violence. as to the question of sattire. it's a good way to attack isis. this is a group that it claims to be creating eutopia and yet it's sort of enslaving millions of people. that's a pretty rich topic for saphire and pretty way to undercut them. >> host: peter bergen, what's is new america? >> guest: founded in dc. we have a tech policy practice, big education practice and national security practice, we hope to advance big ideas about how tocu change, you know, the united states for the better and do it in ways that are interesting to read engaging to the public and we're not a waiting as many think washington are. you know, we are trying to put big ideas into the public square. >> host: and is there a connection to eric schith

isis has demonstrated suface -- sophis attacks. isis has conducted scores of attack. and isis' strength globally exceeds they have of al-qaeda. isis' leaders are determined to strike the homeland beyond extremist attacks. although the u.s. is a harder target than europe, isis e ternal operations remain a critical factor in our threat assessment for 2016. >> host: peter bergen? >> guest: those are sobering figures. the last time we heard there were 4500 westerns who went to syria for training and now the number is 6900. the last time we had an over all number it was 30,000 now it is close to 40,000 he is saying. so the fact is we are continuing to see significant numbers of people going to syria for training. the good news is very few are americans and the ones going it a one-way ticket with them sometimes getting killed over there. i could only find two examples when researching the book of people who train with a jihadi militant group and come back to the united states. we are talking about a handful. look at paris. everybody involved in the attack trained in syria.

calling for airstrikes against isis. it has now been two years since president obama discussed isis as the jv team. today the administration claims the goal is to degrade and

these efforts have helped cut isis by up to 50%. what additionally do you believe we can do to further restrict their financial resources? >> sir, you have outlined pretty much the sources of revenue for isis. they have a very elaborate bureaucracy for managing their money. i think the important thing is to sustain that pressure on multiple dimensions. they will include going after the oil infrastructure. isil has displayed great ingenuity by setting up thousands of these mom and pop refineries. >> yes. >> we just have to stay at it. as well the recent binding of the financial institution in mosul had a big impact on

hours on-line with you persuading you isis is the truth of isis.nts are not necessarily monitoring this. particularly if it's done on a cell phone rather has not a home computer. >> rose: have we mounted an effective campaign. >> the short answer is i don't think so but i also think it's probably, the u.s. government has a kiss of death problem in this area and let's do this whole experiment where he had the world's greatest people doing this. some capable people doing this. it's still not going to be persuasive as isis is putting out. >> rose: so then find some muslims to do it. discussion between silicon valley, the government. >> rose: find somebody that was with isis and left. >> i agree. defectors are the most effective and the "new york times" ran a piece about two female that defected. so defections are the most usual but there's kind of a catch 22. let's say you're an american defector from isis and you come back to this country, you go to prison. the fact you defected may not -- >> rose: is that smart on our part. >> well luckily we don't

it's the biggest prize isis has captured.ary video gives us a rare look into everyday life under isis. it brings to mind a writer's concept, the banality of evil. isis has its own license plates and traffic cops who give parking tickets. and there are friendly shopkeepers. >> completely brainwashed. i've never in my life met people like this. >> this, of course, is the mosul isis officials wanted todenhofer to see. they gave him written permission to come to the city and he believes they let him leave alive to make a point. >> they wanted to show me that they are a state and this state is working. it's not a perfect state, it's not like the united states. but it's a state. >> and it's getting bigger. todenhofer saw new recruits pouring in every day. >> in this recruitment center we had every day more than 50 new fighters. they can lose fighters. they don't care. the amazing thing is that they are completely enthusiastic. they think it's the time of their life. they think that they are part of a historical event. changing the

repeated attacks claimed by isis. this coming on the same day as we saw secretary of state john kerry here in the jordanian capital speaking saying that russian an american officials reached what he described as a provisional agreement in principle for that cessation of hostilities. as you recall, they agreed earlier this month to implement the cessation of hostilities on friday. that did not happen. this time, we are hearing from secretary kerry saying that this cessation of hostilities could go into effect in the coming days. the next step we are going to see, he says, president obama speaking with russia president vladimir putin to agree on the details of the temporary truce before it goes into effect. secretary kerry saying it is not a done deal yet. john, this violence we saw unfold in syria on sunday is unlikely to cease anytime soon. violence claimed by isis and nusra. two organizations that are not party of any peace talks or agreements. john. >> given that isis and nusra are not part of the cease-fire or cess

i think there is no real concrete strategy to defeat isis. not contained, but to defeat to isis. june 18th is the deadline. do you see any reason we won't get the strategy by june the 18th? >> well, in terms of strategy,ta look, we're going to suffocate this network every single which way. we'll -- it's like an anaconda strategy, the constant strategy. the propaganda network and in e iraq and syria as i explained we're working to take away theif territory. the global networksetwork we're working to cut off and slice off their foreign fighter network. >> so we'll have a strategy to t defeat isis that's concrete? to train and equip, that was a disaster. and then the president has said that was a disaster. i'm not going to be argumentative, but will we have a concrete strategy so bubba down in texas will know what the united states is going to do to defeat isis? do you see any reason we won't f have that in writing for us and the american public by june the 18.? >> no, we have a it king stratea >> well, part is not working.m are we going to get the same strategy? that's really my qu

isis into libya?>> yeah, first off this probably is an expansion and it's a necessary expansion. we have to destroy isis where they exist. we've done this basically before when this was al qaeda in iraq. we pushed them back, we rolled them back. and even the president in his re-election said al qaeda is on the ropes. since then, this new al qaeda, isis, has reborn and me tas at the sized all over the place. i believe the president does have the authorization after what happened on 9/11 but i think congress should give him a use of force authorization without limitations, though. we're not going to tie the hands of the next president with what this president has requested. he's requested a time limit and a prohibition on the use of ground troops. i have an authorization for the use of military force that i wrote that said the president has the authority to destroy isis wherever they exist by whoever means necessary basically. that's what congress should give him. unfortunately, i don't know if we can g

the center ofs where we can understand why isis became isis. predecessor suffered defeat in iraq.ndevived itself in syria moved back to iraq. this idea that it can be contained, it is not the case. but if we have seen syria as the center of gravity, we could've done more to stop this power vacuum from emerging as early as 2012. that means intervening against assad regime. the opposite side of the coin, if you will, the brutality of the assad regime helped give life to groups like isis, who are saying "we're the last line of defense against this repression." to this day, we do not have a strategy against the assad regime. as the assad regime is still in the driver seat, thinking it can win, it may not be called isis, but there will be other groups that fill the vacuum. we could have a long time debating syria. this is the moment to talk. he is clearly calling on that point. he is calling on only on american muslims to get involved, but muslims around the world with respect to isis. --ernments foundations governments, foundations, everybody else. shadi: that gets me nervous. he said

how do we defeat isis? we begin with a commander-in-chief setting out use overwhelming airpower and we should be arming the kurds. the kurds are our boots on the ground. they're fighting isis right now. isis is using u.s. military equipment they've seized from iraq. the obama administration refuses to arm the kurds. we should let the kurds defeat isis on the ground, aided by overwhelming american airpower. that's what will happen if i'm president. if i'm elected president, every militant on the face of the earth will know, "if you go and join isis. if you take up arms and wage jihad in attempt to murder innocent american men and women, you are signing your death warrant." i believe in peace through strength. that's who america is and 6.5 years of weakness and appeasement has profoundly endangered this country. the american people are ready to get back to a strong america. 07:51:12 3 at that very same event, dr. ben carson also spoke for a few minutes with ben hill. his plan to fight isis. 3 trt: 1:0907:37:1

is starting to strike isis in libya, because isis is leaving syria and going to olivia instead. >> andhat last piece is very concerning. isis has an established stronghold in a lot of central libya. not just a strong -- small pocket. we just hit one pocket. they have been the mastermind of some big terrorist attacks. are shaking the dynamics in libya, not yet. but it is complicated enough in syria. we have president assad, and his allies. that is one group. his allies are hezbollah, russia, and some iranian, and even afghan and iraqi fighters. that is the assad coalition. and then, there is isis. that is primarily holding territory in the east. there is the al nusra front, just as extreme as isis. that is the al qaeda affiliate. this front and isis are at loggerheads with each other. it is not particularly ideological, it is more personal. after all of that is said, what you might call the good guys, who we are trying to work with. that is a coalition of kurdish fighters, interested in what happens in the countries north. they are at loggerheads unfortunately, with our ally, turkey. it

in afghanistan too, isis is onl spreading. buten only recently has the hey president lifted the rules of engagement that were preventing our troops from targeting this deadly group. last week u.s. air strikes finally destroyed an isis voicen of the caliphate radio station there in afghanistan. so, what took so long? isis propaganda operations are d in over drive, they are gettingm better every day.er messa yet our government's effort to counter message led by the broadcasting board of governors remains in disarray and when ite comes to syria, tragically, theh u.s. responsete has been down rightt shameful. the slaughter goes on. train and equip failed. in december the u.s. joined russia to pass a u.n. security council resolution that required humanitarian aid and the end of civilian bombing as part of its plan for peace talks.an but rather than stand firm and put pressure on russia to abide byk this resolution, secretary kerry pushed the opposition to the negotiating table even as ns the russian and assad regimes intensified th

now, this only empowers isis. and militarily the size of the recently announced special operations force to target isis leadership is a fraction of what past efforts have entailed. our air strikes are still only averaging 23 a day, a fraction of what a serious air campaign looks like. in the failed state of libya, where militants don't face a threat from the air, isis has doubled in size. these 6,000 fighters are several hundred miles from europe. they have their sights on libya's oil, a tactic that made it the world's richest terror group, and despite years of warnings about libya's course, the administration's response has been feeble. in afghanistan, too, isis is spreading. but only recently has the president lifted the rules of engagement that were preventing our troops from targeting this deadly group. last week u.s. air strikes finally destroyed an isis voice of the caliphate radio station there in afghanistan. so, what took so long? isis propaganda operations are in overdrive. they're getting better every d

that's american isis arrests."it's all outlined in the isis in america report.geoe washington university's center for cyber and homeland security has been at the forefront of tracking isis related arrests in the u-s - in which there is some connection, either trying to leave the country to support isis or committing crimim in the terrorist groups name" according to the isis in america report, there have now been a total of 80 people in the unitedtates who have been arrested for having ties to isis. that's just since march of 2014."we're getting to the point where this is becoming untenable for the fbi they honestly cannot arrest everyone who expresses their support for isisthe obama administration has just announced a revamp to its efforts to counter exexemism - adding new staff and tens of millions of dollars to fight terrorism, financing and online propaganda"the goal here is to find additional ways to work togeth to make it even hardereror terrorists cyberspace"but much more may be needed, since hughes says isis

that said, isis attack in paris was directed trained, financed by the isis the terrorist organization the it was not a bunch of lone wolves who can got together and did the attack. so the good news is that the threat and the united states is mostly almost entirely lone wolves. that's good news because there's a natural ceiling to what one person a pair people can do? 9/11 was 19 hijackers, dozens of other co-conspirators, and the thousands of other dollars were spent yet it was an organized group that did the attack. homegrown militant like nation of dollars on killed 13 people. orders of magnitude difference between what a very large organization can do when it trains people and what one person can do when he or she is radicalizing really in their own house. because of what they are reading online. >> host: bullring file clerk tweets how would you go about defeating isis? >> guest: i would enter this, this is a great twitter handle by the way. there is no demand signal from the american public for what if you wanted to really defeat isis you would send a 200,000 men and women army in

they have lost people to isis. think you say, look, it is not your active help or acquiescence in what you are going to do going after isis. that means you are going to have to pull back from the area while we go after their leadership and economic infrastructure. but if you want to be part of that, we would welcome you. you have a dog in this hunt now, because you are worrying what is happening to caucuses, isis spreading the ideology. at the same time, we have to fight the ideology. there has to be more willingness on the part of russia and iran, to take a hard look at how we prioritize. right now, we are not going to see a military defeat of assad. it's not going to happen. it might have been possible a few years ago. it will not happen now. we will continue to see russia from the air, iran from the ground, where iranian soldiers are dying on behalf of assad. you will see them continuing to hold the territory they have and push back against opposition. part of what we have to do is say, you have to help us get t

including an isis training camp. it's also being reported that a senior leader of the terror group was killed as well. jonathan vigliotti has the very latest from london. new at noon. reporter: video broadcast on olivia news channel claims to show the aftermath of overnight airstrikes in the libyan city. u.s. defense officials tell cbs top isis terrorists. senior isis leader is wanted in connection to a march assault in tunisia at the national bardo museum that killed 22 people. and another attack in june when they stormed the tunisian beach, killing 38. the interior ministry released this photo of him at the time of the massacre. the u.s. airstrikes come as the white house and western allies struggle to contain isis. would go after islamic state is a clear target. the terrorist group has used brutal tactics to make their presence known in libya, carrying out several gruesome beheadings. this one last february allegedly shows militants killing coptic tripoli. jonathan vigliotti, cbs news. mollie: officials estimate n

we need to deal with isis in the caliphate. we need a strategy to destroy isis there.ooperation of the muslim world because they're as threatened as we are, so i think it's important for us to be careful about the language we use which is why i've been critical of donald trump disparaging women, disparaging hispanics. that's not a sign of strength. making fun of disabled people, we're never going to win elections if we don't have a more broader unifying message. [ applause ] >> governor, thank you. senator cruz, change of subject, you've called for an end to the renewable fuel standards which mandate that refineries blend biofuels including ethanol into gasoline. as you well know, ethanol is a big industry in this state. $10 billion a year. last week terry branstad, the popular governor of iowa -- [ cheers and applause ] -- who is in the hall tonight, said that bankrolled by big oil and iowa voters would be making a mistake supporting you. why should those voters side with you over the six-term governor of this state, sir? >> well, chris, i'm glad to discuss my views o

isis is growing.has been attacking oil facilities and there's a fear that isis could expand and that is why there was so much talk about a military option in libya. he said president obama is being pressed by some of his national security aides including his top military advisers to approve the use of american forces to open another front against the islamic state. mr. obama is wary of another intervention in the middle east. he has told his aides to redouble the efforts to find another option. frederick: these factions have signed an agreement that was brokered by the united nations in december. the problem is that this government is just a piece of paper. it has not been able to exert its authority on the ground it. that is the real concern in european capitals. who are they going to work with on the ground. what is europe doing. they are part of the effort. my understanding is that they are poised to help out with a possible stabilization force. i think the brunt of the counterterrorism effort woul

isis dies eventually.his is not a group that has a winning philosophy. >> rose: and the money is not as it once was. >> but they still have enough and enough people. it's an organization that needs to keep attacking to survive. >> rose: the administration has signalled. >> all the players nipping around the conflict can't seem to arrive i think the u.s. will get drawn more deeply. not hundreds of thousands of troops but more. >> rose: they have 3500 now. >> and how much of the brain power of the administration? how much time is being spent thinking about this. >> rose: and special forces according to what i was told was search missions it's not training and advising and spot budget missions. >> a few months ago they would never have admitted that publicly. a big change will come to iran. what is that? >> iran is going through one of the most interesting periods of all the countries in the region iran is the most dynamic and going through the most pivotal change. i was in iran a few days ago and the iran nu

shadi: syria is really the center of gravity would we want to understand how isis became isis. its predecessor had suffered defeat in iraq and the group was able to arrive itself in syria and then we see this spill over back into iraq. we see time and time again that hasn't been the case. knowledge syria is the center of gravity that means we could have done more to prevent this little power vacuum from emerging as early as 2000 12 and 2013. that means not just intervening against extremists but intervening as well against the assad regime because that regime , theme ways the flipside opposite side of the coin, that the brutality of assad regime is actually helping to give life to groups like isis that are saying we are the last line of defense against the assad regime and this repression. we don't have a strategy against assad regime and as long as that regime is still in the drivers seat and the thinks we can win maybe it won't be called isis but there will be other groups that fill that vacuum. charlie rose: we could have a long debate about syria and iraq. not onlyling on m

. >> 4 teenage girls recruited by isis. their still is something all parents should be worried about. >> denver broncos are back and celebration starts in 12 hours. >> we're tracking your forecast and molly is starting us off tonight. >> you might want to uber or drive here tomorrow. this place is going to be a zoo. the stage is already going up for the live music and entertainment, and that's world championship parade is at noon. >> if you thought this was a homecoming fit for champions, wait for tomorrow. they'll be at civic center park to celebrate the triumph. >> there were half a million there last time. >> this is what it looked like after the first super bowl win. -`>> this year, the parade a starts at 17th and finishes at civic park. >> avoid backpacks and large items like coolers and no chairs or seating devices. >> and you night want to consider ditching your car and opting for a cycle or a light rail. tomorrow it's going to be impossible for parking. >> a good time around a victory that will echo across the count

isis has benefited from this.ocial media companies like twitter are becoming much more aggressive about their own terms of use. you cannot put messages on twitter that incite violence. question of satire, i think satire is a pretty good way to attack isis because this is a group that claims to be creating this islamic utopia and yet it is in slaving millions of people. pre-rich topic for satire and it is a good way to undercut them. host: what is new america? guest: it is a think tank founded in 1999 in d.c. we are opening in san francisco, we have offices in washington. we have a national security practice and we hope to advance big ideas about how to change the united states for the better and do it in ways that are interesting to read and engaging to the public. we are not a government in waiting as many think tanks in washington are. we are trying to put big ideas into the public square. host: is there a connection to eric smith? guest: he is the chairman of the board. james in rochester, michigan. independent

isis is concerned.ie: i have been reading comments about some people who thought they have to do more. peter: that's great if they actually do something more. they are concerned about isis in saudi arabia. they conducted a major terrorist offensive in saudi arabia in 2004. -- he other hand charlie: if you think about it in world war ii news real terms, you should be thinking of an arab going to mozilla -- most ul, capturing the so-called capital rocca. peter: momentum has shifted against them. we see that with the following ramadi. that was a pretty big deal. the momentum is beginning to shift against them. they'll have the momentum they did a year ago. charlie: the president is right? peter: it is one of speed. could there have been more special forces on the ground. aird there be more controllers calling in airstrikes and the like. the answer is surely yes. have 150,000 troops in iraq in 2006 when we were losing the war. callingcan citizens are for a major ground invasion which will be required charli

is isis coming here? >> i think isil does eventually want to find its mark here. >> you are expecting an attack in the united states? >> i'm expecting them to try to put in place the operatives, materiel, whatever else they need to do to incite people to carry out these attacks. clearly. i believe their attempts are inevitable. i don't think their successes are. >> can you explain why these people want to kill us? how does attacking the united states further their interests? >> i think they're trying to provoke a clash between the west and the muslim world or the as a way to gain more adherence. what they're claiming is that, the united states is trying to take over their countries which is the furtherest from the truth. >> paris was a failure of intelligence. all but one of the eight terrorists were french citizens. trained by isis in syria. they returned unnoticed and attacked six locations killing 130 people. what did you learn from paris? >> that there is a lot that isil probably has under way that we

>>> isis camp hit. u.s. warplanes attack an isis training facility in libya where

when it doms isis, we've got to have a focused objective. one of the problems of barack obama and hillary clinton's foreign policy and, sadly, too many establishment republicans in washington, is they focus on issues unrelated to protecting this country. they focus on nation building. they focus on toppling governments to promote democracy and it ends up undermining our national security. now, with regard to isis, we need a commander in chief that sets the objective. we will utterly defeat them because they have declared war. they have declared jihad on us. what do we need to carry that out? overwhelming air power. we need to armt kurds who can be our boots on the ground. and if ground troops are necessary we should employ them but it shouldn't be politicians demonstrating political toughness. it should be military expert judgment carrying out the objectives set out by the commander in ief. >> moderator: very quickly, 30-secretary follow-up. you said essentially the kurds would be the american ground forces in there. the criticism experts ha

some would say if russia wants to fight isis, iran wants to fight isis, go ahead.ay it is schizophrenic. charlie: are they fighting isis? richard: some days. charlie: it is a minority of times. the secretary of defense told me sometimes airstrikes are hitting americans -- american supported rebel groups. richard: take the kurds as an example. you can understand this. the most bizarre proxy conspiratorial fight you could ever have. the kurds are there for a long time, a u.s. supported group. i won't say a client but are most favored ally. they've been very successful. turkey has been there he angry with united states for supporting the kurds because they don't want to see them to powerful. charlie: some kurds want to over throw turkey. richard: and some are classified as terrorist organizations. to make it even more complicated. russia. russia has been bombing and helping the kurds advance. rush is trying to pry away the kurdish ally if you will from the united states. many believe what russia is trying to do is drive turkey into a ground war against the kurds to pu

we are right on the front line with isis. the soldiers here tell us that isis positions are literally only a few miles away from this position. the top commander tells cnn that his forces constantly clash with isis here. he didn't want to appear on camera because of syrian military rules and instead designated a civilian working with him to speak on his behalf. over there is the village, he says, it's considered to be the alternative capital of isis. the syrian military recently launched a major offensive in the north of the country, winning back some territory but also causing tens of thousands to flee towards the turkish border. the u.s. says syrian forces mostly combat moderate rebels and put very little effort into fighting isis. but the troops here say that is not true. for three months now, isis has not been advancing, he says. they've only been retreating. and assad's army acknowledges that russian air power has had a big impact. everything is much better since our russian friends came in, he says. they gave us the cap

charlie: the more pressure on isis, i think isis dies.rlie: their money is not as powerful as it once was. richard: but they have enough, and enough people. this is an organization that needs to keep attacking to survive. charlie: the administration has signaled that. richard: i think inevitably the u.s. will be drawn more deeply. hundreds of thousands of troops but more. how much of the brainpower, the administration being spent thinking about this? special forces are going on search and destroy missions. this is not just training and advising. they are going on missions. >> a few months ago they would have never admitted that publicly. charlie: big changes will be coming to iran. richard: iran is going through more of the most interesting periods. iran is the most dynamic. i was just in iran a few days ago. a deal, the iran nuclear deal has been implemented. saysie: every official they have done they were saying they were going to do. they didthey certified was they were supposed to do. they poured concrete into one of their nuclear fac

intelligence officicis say the size of isis is shrinking in iraq and syria but growing in libya. new estimates put the size in iraq 25,000 down from close to 30,000.the revised estimate comes as the white house is considering an expansion of anti-isis operations and airstrikes into libya.new developments, related to tuesday's explosion on a plane, in the sky above somalia.investigators now say they suspect the al shabaab militant group to be behind the bomb blast. the group though has not claimed responsibility and, a delay in the triaiafor the man accused of helping the shooters in sasa bernardino.a judge postponed enrique marquz's trial for five months.marquez is accused of supplying rifles and explosiive powder used during the attacks.from the terrorism alert desk in washington, i'm jonathan elias. 3 3 3 taking a live look out over downtown sioux city tonight on our j- c roofing and insulating skywatch camera. 3 siouxland is busy cleaning up more than a foot of snow... but how much of that will melt before we see our *next* round forecast is next.3 "first alert weather with si

that was inspired by isis. they're talking about isis attempting to direct attacks on u.s.ther words, devote resources to carry out terror. >> as they did in paris. >> as they did in paris, exactly. they don't have the same connection they have to europe in terms of easily getting fighters to their there from syria and iraq but they know and they made this very clear in testimony yesterday that this is extremely important to isis leadership. this is a strategic emphasis for them now to carry out terror here. >> and the notion that the u.s. and its allies, the iraqis, they're making progress on the ground in iraq right now and in syria against isis, what are they saying about that? >> that's right. so on the good side, great mcguirk, in charge of the president's fight against isis, he said in his testimony today that in terms of territory that isis has lost 40% of the territory that it had in iraq 10% in syria. the u.s. has killed 90 senior mid-level seniors. a reference that seems to say that when they did this raid to capture abu sigh jeayyaf, we kn that, but it was the mo

tunisia has been severely impacted by isis, if you recall, the beach terrorist attack by isis as wellthe bardo museum in tunis. so i would watch the effort with the united states and u.k. in particular since the tunisian issues and looking at where isis continues to be as they continue to grow. as i understand it, we've gone from 3,000 foreign fighters to about 6,000 fighters in libya, and many of them are foreign fighters from neighboring tunisia. >> and finally quickly, what do you think is going to happen? we've got some success. there is success in iraq. we've got to go after mosul, that hasn't happened yet. some successes in syria. still having peace talks in vienna. not really accomplishing anything yet. now you've got them expanding in libya. >> i think you're going to have a three-part plan. you're going to have continued assessment of where we could actually deny, disrupt isis by the u.s.-led military coalition as general done ford has advised the president. i also think the militias inside libya are stronger than they are different places. they've had to encounter like iraq.

-led campaign against isis was dealing a trip crippling blow.this is the second set of accusations that reports about isis may, in fact, be inaccurate. so, general, i will start with the mustard gas. it's very disturbing, not surprising though that isis would be able to get their hands on chemical weapons. what's the biggest threat, the stockpiles in syria or iraq or that isis may be able to manufacture these rudimentary weapons themselves? >> yeah. well, first of all, in syria it's more dangerous, and when the deal was made, remember, back in 2013 between the united states including russia and syria that they would get rid of all the chemical weapons, many observers to include myself said they are never going to get rid of all the chemical weapons. it is fool's gold to change that reality. they will not even give up all their production capabilities, and that has turned out to be true. and at least 10% or more has been left behind to include production capability. so that's a fact. now isis marauds over syria, seizing one military base after an

would go after isis targets. kris sanchez, "today in the bay." >>> i'm bob redell, we're live in richmond. we' where in about three hours the city will say good-bye to gus vegas. shot and killed last thursday, a week ago yesterday inside his home in vallejo while he was off duty. he heard a commotion inside his daughter's bedroom. when he oepthened door, police say the suspect killed officer vegas with one gunshot. the father of his 6-year-old grandson. the police did arrest the suspect shortly therefore. from 9:00 this morning until 9:5 richmond police will export his body to leave glen cove road and head westbound 80 here into richmond. this is just a heads up if you plan on odriving in that area. again, from 9:00 to 9:45. and memorial scheduled to start at 10:00 this morning. this service is open to the public. reporting live here in richmond, bob redell, "today in the it bay." >>> berkeley police department where they're asking for the public's help to identify a man seen in the surveillance video. they think

richard: the more pressure on isis, i think isis dies.ie: their money is not as powerful as it once was. richard: but they have enough, and enough people. this is an organization that needs to keep attacking to survive. charlie: the administration has signaled that. the president had signaled that. richard: i think inevitably the u.s. will be drawn more deeply. not hundreds of thousands of troops but more. we have 3500 right now. and how much of the brainpower, the administration being spent thinking about this? charlie: special forces are going on search and destroy missions. this is not just training and advising. spotting. they are going on missions. richard: remember a few months ago they would have never admitted that publicly. charlie: big changes will be coming to iran. what is that? richard: iran is going through more of the most interesting periods. of all the countries in the region, iran is the most dynamic. i was just in iran a few days ago. a deal, the iran nuclear deal has been implemented. charlie: every official says they

worried about terrorist. , you know, some of that was understandable. 224 people were killed by an isis affiliate. the attack in paris, 130 people were killed by isis directed and in san bernardino california 14 people killed who were inspired by isis, that said, you know, the threat from jihadist terrorist in the united states is relatively low. it's been managed and contained because of the action of the u.s. government and also because the visions of the american public. >> host: when you say managed incontained, what do you mean? >> guest: if we had the conversation in 2002 and in contrast of anthrax attacks, i predicted that there were 45 americans killed and that would have seen optimistic projection, but, of course, that's what happened, 45 deaths are catastrophe but aren't on the scale of 9/11 or even paris attacks where 130 people have been killed. you're not going to hear have managed, contained threat. somebody is going to get one through because both of the statements are correct. >> host: pete ' re bergen you americans americans suffer from also suffer from historic amnesia