now back to "isis and the internet." >>> isis videos are effective for more than recruiting. tactical weapon of warfare, to instill fear. for that reason, these are among the most disturbing of the videos. again, we will not show the most graphic portions, produced by terrorists for their shock value. but it's all part of a strategy that military scholars call psychological preparation of the battlefield. >> more cities have been taken in history through information warfare, where they open their gates to the conqueror, than were actually conquered through military combat. >> essentially, you try to scare your enemy before you ever go in and fire the first shot. >> isis uses this footage as an actual weapon. a tool to beat down enemies. like the story of the video that conquered a city. may 2014, mosul. iraq's second-largest city is guarded by some 30,000 army and police forces. isis has fewer than 1,500. that's when they release this video. "the clanging of the swords number four." beyond the flashy drone shots, it shows footage shot just a few months earlier. >> when the is

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by a senior isis official who came from iraq to bolster isis's leadership in libya. demonstrated a capacity for very fast growth. the estimate in november was 2000 fighters to their ranks in libya. suggests aboutte 6000. that is at least doubling of manpower under its command in the last 6-7 months. multiple training camps including training camps for children. clearly, it is trying to be in libya for the long haul. its de facto capital in libya. inbegan as is organization 2014 exploiting the kind of pre-existing social divisions and political divisions. i'm sure my esteemed libya panelists will be able to talk about in more detail than i but in particular, it was gaddafi's hometown. gonegaddafi loyalists had back to after the fall of the gaddafi regime. ofwas under the control these militias. isis used the fact that there were individuals and other militias accused of being loyal their own to advantage. many of those individuals now fight for isis. you can use a similar analogy to talk about how isis has exploited former saddam area officials in iraq. this pre-exist

isis will exploit this. ofess that full structure local fighters are officially trained, ready, vetted and under a single command. we are not anywhere near that position as of now. in that sense, i would advocate a let them rot strategy in the meantime. in a sense, accept the fact that people are not happy under isis control. i am sure there are people willing to be under isis control . but in the meantime, over time resentment will continue to grow. this is something we have seen in syria and iraq. and places like the the egyptian sinai are showing particular tendencies. time should be spent on better uniting the political structure in libya, after the december 2015 agreement. and most importantly, perhaps of all, uniting the east and west structures under the current government that was agreed to in december 2015. and under the commander general in benghazi, in the east. unless those two forces unite, i can say with significant certainty that isis will exploit those two divisions. or certainly it will try

an area taken by isis last year. suddenly, there is an explosion nearby. (explosion) >> narrator: it's a bomb dropped by a libyan air force jet, targeting isis positions. it falls dangerously close. because the militia and the libyan military don't coordinate with each other, they're sometimes in each other's line of fire. >> kilani: the air force has some kind of targets and they send fighter jets to strike them, but they don't know who's on the ground. >> narrator: that night, the soldiers set up camp near the front line. they failed to gain any ground during the day. >> (translated): their morale is low because we're not advancing. those not physically injured have been impacted mentally. this tough situation has left some of my men very distressed. one of my men survived an airstrike, but he's badly traumatized. >> narrator: it's not just the fight against isis that is taking its toll. the divisions with the military are becoming more deadly. the fighters say that the libyan air force recently bombed their positi

since isis's declaration of a so-called caliphate in late june 2014, isis is an organization that has since become an international movement. libya has become its most important, secondary efforts outside of iraq. it has done so by exploiting libya's fundamental instability and political failures. it has done so by exploiting the political failures and vacuum and social divisions that have emerged in libya over the last several years. this is a model of exploiting existing divisions that isis used to its own advantage in syria and iraq. in a sense, isis aims to enter into areas where there are already expensive and intense divisions where there are existing social structures. this is exactly the same model how it entered into syria into 2013. it's the same model they exploited in the city of mosul. there is a variety of open source information that talks about how isis learned local dynamics. it knew all of the tribal leaders and all of their dirty histories. it knew how certain tribes were against other tribes. it knew how certain militias had a certain history may 20 or 30 years pri

again these were not card carrying members of isis. they were inspired by isis. you have those who were part of the isis operation and received directives by isis. these are people who have been inspired, 1,250 who go to syria to fight on behalf of isis. gregg: chairman mccaul and others are saying all signs point to terrorism in the downing of flight 804. but over the last 24 hours, some air yaig experts seem to be reconsidering that notion and look at some sort of electrical short-circuit, especially with regard to the cockpit sliding window and fixed window, defrost windows as the potential cause of a fast-moving fire. what do you think? >> i think we still can't tell. we have to start off with the presumption it's terrorism and work our way back. some criticize that but i believe it's important as far as look out for other attacks to first rule out terrorism. the fact that no one claimed responsibility seems to take it more away from terrorism. but it's too early to tell. i don't think anyone who make apologies saying the first assumption was terrorism. but t

isis has not claimed them but the reasoning there is that isis really needs turkey.d to have the borders not be completely shut down. they need, it is their base if you will. >> their messaging may be different around turkey. >> that is the theory. certainly for something like this, which would, if this is an act of terror as officials are implying. it would very much shake the confidence of europe. this is a plane that departed from charles de gaulle airport only months of the november 13th attacks. it should be on heightened alert. if there was an explosive on board or a terrorist on board, how did that lapse happen? >> we have seen some reporting today, and i've been sort of cautioning over the course of this hour in terms of what has been out there today about the discussion. there have been some claims of responsibility or reported claims of responsibility about this incident. are any of them considered to be credible. >> none are credible. the claims of responsibility that are prop debated on twitter are allegedly from the wire service. i am on the telegram cha

brett: the counter isis coalition is not focused on stopping us on. it is focused on isis.n --e: who is stopped focused on stopping a soft? assad.wed -- aleppo, inou take the southwest, what makes it .omplicated also against he is fighting the side? brett: what they would say is if we were being attacked by the regime, we need help. we started to see that happening. we said to the russians. let's work together to deescalate the situation. you can see the separation. obviously, we are not the area. the mostit is complicated and important problem on earth. where we are right now is trying to reestablish in these three areas and take it from there. we have aleppo fighting in the southwest. that is a concern. that thehis conflict kurds are fighting some of the areas. back in a moment. stay with us. ♪ charlie: we turn to politics. donald trump was the last man standing. here with that and more is maggie a permit of the new york times and cnn. let me begin with what happened today. , il ryan said the following standardbearer and he cannot at this time support donald trump. implic

to the airport to join isis. spends years in jail for material support. one side of the spectrum. the other side of the spectrum, spend 20 years in the u.s. gets u.s. citizenship, 11 days later goes to syria become as midlevel commander running battalion foreign fighters. that is isis in america. that is two different extremes. kid tweeting in his parents house and guy running battalion. when we scoped out the report, communicating threats depending on nexus to isis. then in terms of extremist content we look at notes. if someone is tweeting to one follower, sure, yeah i guess they're an isis supporter but i'm less interested than i am if they're tweeting to 10 or so nodes pushing out new and interesting content that hadn't seen before. if they're connecting to them or talking or communicating let's talk on dm. that is where i start becoming more interested, is connections to it, not just the speech. >> a little bit more about the who, rather than the why. >> yeah, yeah. >> any other last questions? wait for the

one of increase in isis social media. clear that isis has been a debt that using social media. anywhere between 4000 videos a year. they had twitter, telegram, various different platform channels. i'm on 50 telegram isis channels right now. fore are different ways entry points to talk to these individuals. think about it like the democratization of recruitment. there are three girls from denver. and were on a plane bound to go to turkey and across the border. they got picked up and fight for ,nd turned round because it called every number that colorado phone book. how do they figure out how to do all this? they went on to a tumbler page on where to go into to talk to. it lowers the bar for the 17 euro kid from denver to take the next step. the always eager people are going to figure that out. for an ability that they did not have before. it is interactive. i can have a conversation with emma that i would not be able to have five years ago because i know who she is on twitter and we can go back and forth and dm. i can have a conversation with a foreign fighter in falluja and ask

since isis's declaration of a supposed or self-declared caliphate in june of 2004, isis has sought to become a transnational or international movement and libya has become arguably its most important sort of secondary area of operations outside of syria and iraq and it it has done so by exploiting libya's sort of fundamental instability and failures. it has done so by exploiting the political failure, the political vacuum and social divisions that have emerged out of libya since -- or over the last several years. this is a model of exploiting an existing division that isis used to its own advantage in syria and iraq over the last several years. in a sense isis aims to enter into areas where there are already extensive and intense divisions within existing power players and existing social structures. if you look at how isis entered into syria, it's the exactly same model that is entered into syria in two 14 and exploited in mosul in 2012, 2013 and 2014. it knew all of the tribal leaders. it knew all of their dirty histories. it knew how certain tribes were against other tribes. it kne

we now just talk about isis. >> thank you. do you remember, so isis got to be really big, why, because we are obsessed with al qaeda. when abu bock when abu bock it gets kicked out of al qaeda what happens you says to take all the fighters into syria so were doing it again, were obsessing on isis that al qaeda has not disappeared, al qaeda qaeda is more active than ever especially in africa, right now there is real pressure on al qaeda to do what? prove relevance, because who is following the show, now isis is the coca-cola of soft drinks. you say soft drinks resale is the big leader, it's isis but al qaeda has to get back in the game. either that or they have to swear by the new caliphate and i don't think for reasons of ego he can quite swallow subordinating himself to his former subordinate. so what is al qaeda do in the meantime he may go even bigger. if you want to prove your relevance, 3000 people people in hundred two minutes may not be enough. we have seen al qaeda look at weapons of mass destruction experimenting with

last year, isis brought down a passenger plane in egypt with 224 on board, a russian jet bombs say isis with explosives in a soda can. >> you don't need a lot of explosives. the airline is at full altitude to compromise a structure that high up, you can force a plane to break up. >> reporter: three months ago it was a bomb in a laptop that exploded in a plane blowing a hole in the fuselage and blowing the islamist bomber out. security cameras capturing airport workers handing him the bomb in the departure lounge. planes have been a favored terrorist target from pan am 103 that exploded to hijacking 9/11, plots to smuggle bombs on board enclosing liquids, anything. >> terrorists find airliners an attractive target. when a terrorist group goes after an airliner, it ends up being a major news story for weeks at a time. >> reporter: in brussels this year, it was the airport itself that was targeted. in france, the airport passes of 70 airport workers withdrawn. egypt tonight searching for a plane and for answers. and i would stress there is no proof it was a bomb. they say no claim from isi

isis and al qaeda.hile they're in iraq and syria to train and assist and equip these local fighting forces, to me the idea that these special operations forces are not able to go after our enemy is kind of absurd to me. >> so by your definition, you have experience in iraq. of course, you were deployed there. are they on the front lines? >> they are in combat. they are on the front lines. they're supporting people there fighting to defeat isis. fighting to defeat al qaeda. people who are our enemy. the important question here in the area where i have concern is if the mission for special operations forces are not clear. in particular, in syria. it would be absolutely wrong and counter productive and a disservice if our special operations forces are being sent on missions to support and to fight to overthrow the syrian government of assad. to fight alongside and to work with groups like al qaeda and l al-nusra who are working to overthrow the syrian government of assad. it's critical their mission be cle

not isis, let's say. basharu have removed al-assad in a smooth transition that the russians can say it wasn't libya once over, the iranians can say it was a smooth transition of power that looked like a process everyone can bashar that once al-assad and his and her circle are removed, then you can have a new government that looks a lot like the old government, but a new government that everyone can agree upon to and is kind of like world war ii. you blame hitler, goring and a couple of top nazis and you let everyone else get off. you say hitler, everything was his fault and the rest of the regime it's a pass. amazing.this was thank you. richard engel on assignment sunday night. check your local time. ♪ charlie: may is a busy time for the art world. brings our levelers -- art lovers and collectors together here right in new york. a new maya moore called "the auctioneer, adventures in the art trade," i am pleased to have erier.to pray -- simon dep charlie: i like the title. simon: i have been in the art wor

what happens a years and a half ago in musul, isis doesn't talk about it. isis does it.ot possible to overemplez that isis has succeeded when 90 years of jihaddists have failed. that's why i wrote this book. isis is not a jv team, they're at the super bowl. isis has blasted al-qaeda out of the water. the people need to understand and another thing, if i may, just to bring it all back home, this is from the report my wife and i did, this is not something happening 80 miles away, ladies and gentlemen, in the last 18 months since the declaration of caliphate we have killed or arrested 98 people related to isis. that's just isis. all over the country from texas to california to new jersey, yeah. it's not a question of when the threat comes here. the question of where the threat is is already answered. they are here. san bernardino, what did farook malik do. they sworn allegiance to the islamic state as they executed the second largest attack on u.s. soil since september 11th, the really scary thing is 30% of the people we have arrested have no intention of going anywhere, ha

before isis decleared itself to be a caliphate, isis has been occupying fallujah for 2 1/2 years. the longest-held territory in iraq. and the fight is apparently on in fallujah, too. the fight to take back that city from isis got under way yesterday. that offensive is being carried out by iraqi forces and also by shiite militias that are backed by iran. that's a bit of an issue for the united states military, the involvement of the iranian-trained militias, explains why american forces are not taking a direct roll. they have offered up apache helicopter gunships for the fight in fallujah. but iraqi forces in the iranian-trained and iranian-armed militias, at this point, they have reportedly surround fallujah and are firing into it. so, these are two big fights under way, simultaneously, right now, against two totally key places held by isis. one started yesterday, in iraq, in fallujah. one started today, in syria, in raqq raqqah. what appears to be a major assault on isis' hometown, the capital of the caliphate. these are big fights, big offensives, for two important isis-held cit

this is not the first of the attacks claimed by isis.concerned about the uptick in violence. many people isis is trying to exploit the political crisis in country to reignite the sectarian war. bret mcgirk, president obama's envoy to the global coalition had this to say. >> now the caliphate, as they call it, is shrinking. they are on the defensive. they have not retain any territory. >> reporter: and christine, u.s. officials say that isis lost 45% of the territory they used to control iraq. clearly, despite losing the territory, isis has the ability to carry out the attacks on a daily basis in iraq. >> thank you, jomana karadsheh. >>> george zimmerman is trying to sell the gun he used to kill trayvon martin for a third time. the owners of the auction site says it is going live on tuesday with the starting price of $100,000. zimmerman's previous attempt was hijacked by fake accounts with high bids of $65 million on friday. >>> and ntsb investigators on the scene of the deadly bus crash in south texas. eight people killed. 44 others inju

and the building of people's positive healing about isis.and sliding back and forth, stop specific commission ofviolence or try to convince people they are wrong to think in a certain way, that latter that is trying to convince people they have the wrong view or the wrong ideas, i don't think should be the goal of any programs because i don't think it is going to work. stop people from committing specific acts of violence is a great goal but trying to win people over to think according to a certain set of values or beliefs is a losing proposition. >> this is one of the reasons people brought up why the platform is not put in and out the rhythm like they do child pornography, the answer being it is so subjective, every piece of content is propaganda, extremist content, incitement to violence, a scale you have to look at individually. >> technically when companies are filtering for child pornography fears or child-abuse imagery what they are doing is comparing known images of that material to things that are uploaded to their own server. is so

may have or isis or other jihadis might have.ly someone was on the plane and forced a direction, put some pressure. we don't know. we don't know any information about where the impact was. was there an impact? did it really land in the mediterranean? fa the center of the research about this. >> walid, we have a list of where the passengers were originally from. this plane was filled with a lot of egyptian passengers, 30 egyptian passengers, 15 french, two iraqis one sudanese and it goes on and on and on. does that tell you the nationalities of the people and whether or not it could be terrorism? >> most of the flights going to egypt, many of those have them mostly from egypt and international passengers going to egypt or piloting to egypt. when we look at the countries they are coming from every one of the countries that have the jihadists. it could be along with -- we don't have the names, we don't have the backgrounds. they could be themselves jihadists. they are not chileans or asians, this is the possibility of having jihadis

they said isis kept them alive to train them as terrorists.ing they did was to try to make us like them," he said. "they ordered us to plant hundreds of bombs and taught us how to detonate them." >> father desbois: it seems a person received a bullet in the >> logan: forensic specialists are finally beginning to exhume these mass graves and the number of dead - already around 5,000 - is expected to rise. as the yezidi genocide enters its 21st month, there are still about 3,000 yezidis being held by isis today. how do you stop the machine? >> father desbois: it can be stopped only military. >> logan: militarily. >> father desbois: only military. i-- how-- how could be-- be stopped hitler? >> logan: you had to defeat him on the battlefield. >> father desbois: in one way or another. >> logan: and kill the idea. >> father desbois: and kill the people who carry them. >> this cbs sports update is brought to you by ford. at the wells fargo championship today in charlotte, north carolina, jamesan hn won in a playoff against roberto his second career t

you wouldn't have fought assad. >> but i would go after isis. >> but you'd go after isis. >> joe, isis is fighting syria. so you have some people that want to fight syria and isis at the same time. they are fighting each other. >> so what you're saying is assad can stay in power. that's not your interest. >> i'm saying we have bigger problems than assad. >> you're interested in militarily to go after isis, but we're not interested in replacing assad. >> i would say knock the hell out of isis, which we could have done originally. e we shouldn't have been in iraq. bad decision. then the way obama got us out was a horrible decision. the way we came out. and i would have said u isis was created because of that. they wouldn't take them in. because we had the wrong leadership. >> but i want to get specific on syria because there is a divided foreign policy community. lindsey graham says you have to replace assad. others are more realists who say, you know what, assad is a horrible person but he stays there. our job is getting rid of isis. >> that's where i am. lindsey graham call ed me up th

new developments in fight against isis. and jeff dams and michelle williams star on broadway in "blacked bird. >> it was one of those roles that you knew there was more there. that was the lure, the challenge of turning whatever it was you did, which was successful, with a lot of critics, turning it inside out and reexamining it. >> rose: we will have those stories and more on what happened and what might happen. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: and so you began how? >> i was in love. >> rose: is it luck at all or is it something else? >> rhythm and how it moves people. >> rose: what's the object lesson here? >> sprinting a marathon. >> rose: tell me the significance of the moment. >> rose: this was the week donald trump met with republican congressional leaders in an attempt to unify the party. isis claimed responsibility for a massive car bomb in baghdad. and

you're talking about 44,000 twitter accounts for isis supporters. the english scene ask 1,000 to 3,000 online. and the last thing i would like to say, it's not like if twitter went away tomorrow we wouldn't have recruits joining. the fact that there's a physical space, a driver for people. twitter, places lake that help to facilitate the recruitment. but they're not the reason. it allows in the u.s. for, when you see at least the people that have been arrested, communities don't radicalize in america, individuals do. we don't have these pockets of radicalization like you would have in some european countries. here if you're trying to find a like-minded individual, you're usually trying to find it online. >> rashad, maybe you can tell us how the department of justice and the government is approaching this phenomenon and how you're working to combat. >> it's a threat we take seriously. our first priority is to protect the america people from attacks. what we're seeing ice ill do online is use some sophisticated techniques. seamus talked about some of

>> i think it's important to me talk about isis, isis in america is a spectrum zone once i get something like tweeting to 4000 followers about how great isis is. spent 11 years in jail and that's once had the spectrum but on the other side is dialing up someone from st. louis gets u.s. citizenship in 11 days later goes to syria and becomes a mid-level commander running a battalion of foreign fighters. there are two different extremes on that. when we look at me scoped out the report we looked at mostly tears and charges with a few communicating threats depending on the exercises and then in terms of extremist content we look at those. if someone is tweeting to one follower, they are nice a supporter but i'm less interested in i am between the 10 or so that are rushing out an interesting content that i haven't seen before and if they are connected to them or if they are talking saying -- that's where i start becoming more adjusted in the connections to it not just the speech. >> a little bit more about the food rather than a wet. any other last questions? >> of you folks considered mockin

what do these mean for our war against isis? were they planned to kick off in parallel as an idea to weaken isis by forcing them to fight in two countries, in two big cities on two fronts? and what does this mean for the american involvement in this war? hold that thought. we've got a live report next. >>> this is what part of the fight against isis looks like now in fallujah in iraq. this is one of two brand new major military offenses to try to take back the longest held isis city in iraq, and the main strong hold held by isis in syria. both of those major military offenses hitting isis right where they live. right now, simultaneously. joining us now, courtney, nbc news national security producer. courtney, thank withdrew fyou f here. >> thanks for having me. >> fallujah is the longest isis-held city in iraq. raqqah is obviously their capital in syria. did we expect that both of them would have major military offensives against them to try to take them back at the same time? >> no. that's somewhat surprising and there's actual

one thing is for sure isis remains very much a global threat. you know that. you may be surprised to learn that philadelphia police say that they too are dealing with a ten -- tentacles of that organization. brian taffys here with a special report. what about isis's influence here at home. >> reporter: so many think of ice is as something that is both foreign a and far away but, the truth is, it is newter of those thing. counter terrorism officials say they are increasingly seeing isis influence because getting to that group is not as hard as one might imagine. >> i'm challenging them in a totally different way other people haven't challenge them to that point. >> reporter: in 2014 toby lopez set out on what he admits was a dangerous quest to satisfy his curiosity. >> i wanted to educate myself on what they were doing. >> reporter: instead of searching for answers about isis on google, he went straight to the source and few clicks later, he said he got them. >> i had no doubt that these people were actively engaged in isis in syria. >> reporter: lopez, a car s

. >> the battle to defeat isis. we'll tell you about p the secret history of the terror network bent on taking down the west. >> plus, you have someone in there. >> a near fatal crash. the dramatic rescue of a driver trapped in his burning vehicle. 3, 2, 1. speeding toward the future. will you soon be able to travel from san francisco to l.a. in just 30 minutes? it is all happening now. but we begin with news of new efforts to bring the fractured be republican party back together. welcome to the second hour of "happening now" upon. i am jon scott. >> i ametter childers in for jenna lee. more republicans are rallying around the presumptive nom no after donald trump held meetings with the gop leaders. there will be regular weekly meetings with house republican supporters. paul ryan is not one of them. he's not ready to endorse the presumptive nominee. trump is confident that ryan will come around and not really worried about it. >> if that didn't happen, i would continue on the way i have done. we had a great meeting.

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strategy in fighting isis in the region. that's because the white house leans on the iraqi prime minister al abadi in battling the terror group and his political viability could be a huge factor in whether our plans could succeed or fail. joining us to talk about it is ambassador john bolton and senior at the american enterprise institute and ambassador, it's good to see you. stated goal of the protesters is to bring down the government of the prime minister and that's a government, as we say, the united states supports. vice president biden was just there. where do you think this is heading? >> well, this is a clash among shia iraqis, the muqtada al sadr who leads essentially a populist group of militias against al abadi under the control of the ayatollahs in tehran so the impact of this really calls into question whether what steps iran will have to take to reassert control. middle eastern news sources today are reporting that other shia militia more supportive of iran are moving into the baghdad region, so we could see mo

we're going to destroy isis. and i think that's the kind of leadership we need. >> is there anything you would like to see donald trump do differently? >> well, i think he's going to need to learn. going to need to understand, really completely, as you know, martha, how complex this world is. even within baghdad. and the region around baghdad. kurds, al anbar, sunni, shia, iranians, so forth. it's a very, very complex world. and you have to be careful when you commit a military force. >> okay. thanks so much, senator sessions. as we mentioned, we've been and seen for ourself this week, the fight against isis. our exclusive report with the americans on the ground, here next. >> and by. fire! >> this enemy that we're facing today, make no mistake, is out there to attack everyone. we saw it in paris. we saw it in brussels. we've seen it in california. our parents worked hard so that we could enjoy life's simple pleasures. now it's our turn. i'm doing the same for my family. retirement and life insurance solutions fr

isis didn't even exist. >> that's a great point. because isis didn't exist then. it's connected. i wonder, if it your view that the military action that the u.s. is taking now in iraq against isis, is it your vie that that military action is illegal? >> it's my view they're operating under a 2001 authorization that does not cover what they're using it for at this point. we have to really understand that the american people are demanding that they know exactly what the circumstances are, how long this is going to be. if we know the costs and the consequences. and so yes, i believe the current war footing in terms of isis is really not appropriate because the 2001 resolution did not cover that. but it was a blank check. it was so broad, it was overly broad. that's why i could not support it. >> the president's in a somewhat odd position here. as you say, he's introduced another resolution 15 months ago. he says he'd like it, but he does say he doesn't need it. he'd like to have one. he'd like congress to get buy-in, a phrase the administration likes to use, but he d

and they said isis is on the run. isis is doe graded. isis is decimated. but i think most americans look at this situation and say this is a disaster. i interviewed this public priest on my radio show this week. he said there were 2 million christians before the u.s. invasion in iraq they speak language. now there are 200,000. they were in mosul. isis came in and went into the churches. the churches are now sharia courts in mosul. mass hasn't been said in mosul in two years. of course, all the carnage. they never had the will to do this and america is war weary at the same time. that's a really tough combination. >> so does anything change? it seems like they are preparing the u.s. for what could be some u.s. forces engaged in some of this battle. >> well, we will know they are serious when they do that it's been nearly two years since isis took mosul. it's been nearly 22 months since the obama administration announced strategy to destroy the caliphate there. but it hasn't happened. we're at war in everything buy name in iraq. we have this incremental stra

loyalty and isis continues to metastasize. until we defeat them they will continue to spiral, metastasize and grow and be a threat. we will continue to explore this and looking forward to the testimony from the representatives of homeland and depart of state. i will turn it over to senator carper after i ask consent to enter my written statement in the record. >> i think that is a great idea. mr. chairman, thanks for pulling this together. justin, thank you for joining us for this important hearing, and a timely one as well. our thoughts and prayers continue to be with the people of belgium and france and the recent tragedy involving the crash of the egyptair flight that departed from paris' airport earlier this month. we are still learning the facts around the loss of the egyptair flight this tragedy remines us that securing the homeland is likely to be an ongoing challenge. as the chairman alluded to some of the progress on the battlefield and in other ways with respect to isis. big coalition, 60 nations and it is beginning

and they said isis is on the run. isis is doe graded. isis is decimated. i think most americans look at this situation and say this is a disaster. i interviewed this public priest on my radio show this week. he said there were 2 million christians before the u.s. invasion in iraq they speak language. now there are 200,000. they were in mosul. isis came in and went into the churches. the churches are now sharia courts in mosul. mass hasn't been said in mosul in two years. of course, all the carnage. they never had the will to do this and america is war weary at the same time. that's a really tough combination. >> so does anything change? it seems like they are preparing the u.s. for what could be some u.s. forces engaged in some of this battle. >> well, we will know they are serious when they do that it's been nearly two years since isis took mosul. it's been nearly 22 months since the obama administration announced strategy to destroy the caliphate there. but it hasn't happened. we're at war in everything buy name in iraq. we have this incremental strategy

an isis recruit that trained with the enemy then escaped. what he saw and what he knows now helping u.s. intelligence. >>> and morley safer dies at 84 days after retiring. we remember a legendary worker of "60 minutes." nightly news begins right now. >> announcer: from nbc news world headquarters in new york, this is "nbc nightly news" with lester holt. >>> good evening. there is an especially uneasy feeling tonight about what may have brought down an egyptian airliner over the ocean today. the our bus with 66 people on board vanished from paris to cairo. there was no distress call. in cairo anxious families waited for hopeful news that never came. at sun up, planes will resume searching for plane wreckage where near officials said there was indications of an explosion. tonight egyptian authorities are suggesting it might have been an act of terror. if true, it leads to the flightful frightful possibility an explosive device somehow went undetected through one of europe's busiest air hubs. we have full coverage and analysis starting with nbc

they managed to push isis back.lly highlights that the group may have suffered some losses in recent months. they've lost some territory in iraq and syria, but they still possess that ability to carry out deadly and devastating attacks like this and also of course highlighting the dangers that u.s. forces, even in an advisory role, face in iraq. >> these are the most highly trained military personnel on earth. still very, very dangerous. thank you so much for that. charlie keating, his grandfather charles keating was charles keating of the savings and loan scandal a couple decades ago. his family saying he's a hero in every sense of the word for them. they're mourning him deeply this morning. 31 years old. >> our thoughts with that family. >>> breaking news this morning, donald trump, he is the likely presumptive nominee, will be the presumptive nominee in the republican party. so says the republican chair. he has knocked ted cruz out of this race. more coming up. look at 'em! they're lovin' their vegetables. this i