they are better at venting individuals that isis was -- that isis was. ahmad: if we talk about isis presence in iraq, it does not have a significant presence. based on my own talks with iraqi officials, they don't see that as a major threat. but the al qaeda organization has decentralized over five years. they are not a smaller organization, they are not are forces but there in iraq that have an association with isis, and the iraqi government isn't much concerned about whether it is al qaeda or isis. it is bad andd that the conditions can help them to a resurgence. it is just to extremists that take different needs at different times. vivian: the reason i am asking is, there is an ideological break between them, where al qaeda spoke out against isis going after shiite because they said they are both muslims and you shouldn't do that. in syria we have really seen them go at each other, another element to an already complicated security landscape. >> the isis leadership was against what al qaeda was doing in iraq, the golden mosque bombing, and there was s

at that point isis started to grow. isis was not built in one day. isis was already growing for many years and it should have been that america should never have left iraq. stay?want america to yes. minorities will feel safer. you answer the security question . how can we protect minorities at this moment? if no one trusts their own militia, the military, or the kurdish one, you leave them at their own state. as we saw in 2014, yezidis cannot do that themselves. >> i think there's an emerging consensus on that point. i'm going to ask one more question and then i'm going to turn to the audience. pence hasce president made it clear stand that he has .hanged u.s. policy that he wants to see the minorities who have often been marginalized, in some cases entirely marginalized in the aid programs of the u.n., to receive direct aid and start receiving effective programs help. i just want to go down the line experienceur own from your own vantage point are you getting aid? have you been getting aid? what is your source of aid? >> the u.s. government is a lar

isis may be gone, but something like isis will come back. >> we will get to that. do any of you want to jump in? >> the issue is really a huge concern. for example, when the iraqi people protested elsewhere between sele had been under province, there were some flags and i saw some report in arab tribe spokesperson on the iraqi government worse than the forces to stop them. they are also on the international coalition to conduct strikes immediately because isis is trying to come back. so the iraqis are busy with what is happening and passion are to protecting the borders. i think i maybe wrong, but if the situation goes like this and the lack of security, we will see other americans. >> what about beyond isis? i understand that iran is enacted. there is the harm in a school. he knows that. there is also everywhere you go in areas you see how many -- a sign that iran is on the ground. it is very clear to everybody. the point is how can you stop the to change that. >> i think we would have a lot of coverage. >> but can we change that? there is no government. nothing o

or even before isis. this is a problem of persecution that preceded isis. know in mosul was very, very violent in '06, '08, bishops being murdered and priests being murdered. and bombs going off inside of churches with worshipers. >> established in 1991 i will start to say there was a crisis when saddam hussein attacked northern iraq, and the situation was the same. so, our people suffering since that time until this moment and before that. after 2003 and unfortunately we still have been targeted, our people, all the minorities but indigenous people, assyrian, christian, targeted in mosul since 2004, and in baghdad, a lot of churches being targeted. there was a movement of people from baghdad, from other cities to the plain and to the whole krg, and this movement in beginning was like a -- special friday therefrom baghdad and mose sump later increased to christian in other places. there was 1,500 people being kidnapped and killed over three to four thousand baby kidnapped and released after they pay the m

military striking isis positions, isis tunnels, trying to degrade their capacity. but while they have air superiority, the truth is that they still have to put troops on the ground to take the fight to the militants. this is perhaps the most dangerous part of the mission on this day. and we joined the u.s. troops as they go door-to-door checking for isis fighters and hidden bombs.

eared -- isis. we are supporting iraqi forces to ensure the success they have had against isis is enduring. in the european command, we are enhancing our alliances and deterring russian aggression through enhanced presence and other initiatives. exerciseave a robust and training program. this year, we have conducted 13 joint exercises in europe and a wide range of service specific training and engagement. in africa, approximately 2700 u.s. forces are supporting thousands more african military partners in providing for their own security and conducting counterterrorism operations against isis and al qaeda affiliates. our efforts include developing security forces in somalia, countering isis in libya, and supporting partners in other regions. in the u.s. southern command, we are working to deepen our security relationships in addressing regional challenges and threats. the u.s. navy hospital ship comfort wilson deployed to relieve the pressure of the increased population flows from venezuela. at home,

military striking isis positions, isis tunnels, trying to degrade their capacity.ut while they have air superiority, the truth is they still have to put troops on the ground to take the fight to the militants. next phase launches before dawn. master sergeant bryan leads his elite troops and afghanthgr eration. med to the main base dismantle, get out of the vehicles, started a vantsing towards this cluster of houses this small village. >> i never like this part. >> no. >> they can see us coming. >> reporter: the ground is littered with bombs left by isis and the going is as slow as it is dangerous. every building, every room, every door could be rigged with explosives. >> the troops have just moved into a whole series of compounds, in other words houses, that they're trying to clear. they're coming across a number of ieds every time they go into some of these buildings so they've got to be super careful. they're also wary there could be isis fighters inside there. >> ied. >> there's more here as well. >> reporter: every man knows all too well that death stalks their

isis just is going through a phase. you know, isis today is where al qaeda was after 2001.t's going from a propertio state now to an underterrorist organization. the idea is not al qaeda or isis or any name, the idea is the ideology and the message and the narrative that they have. before 9/11, al qaeda had 400 members. 400 members, 19 of them were killed on that day. today, the people who adhere to the narrative of osama bin laden are in the thousands. look at syria. look at the movement in somalia. look at yemen. before we only had afghanistan. we had kandahar, jalalabad, a couple of training camps. now because of the failures and the aftermath of the arab spring, we have vacuums across the muslim world, and extremists, people like al qaeda and isis, are the only ones who are able to fill these vacuums. >> that is a lot more populistic than i thought. we are told that the caliphate is over, the attacks against these terrorist cells in these various places you've been talking about, you are the expert on this. so how does one confront this? >> first of all, this ideology,

remains a threat. >> reporter: with isis's old power centers isis has turned to isolated attacks.lding is true, trump may have to change this message. >> we are knocking the hell out of isis. we will be coming out of syria like very soon. let the other people take care of it now. >> reporter: one success the dismantlement of isis leader. >> down through a network where we have killed 60,000 to 70,000 of his followers, his army. >> reporter: but winning is something else. >> there is no question that the international coalition to defeat isis has been effective in terms of reducing their sizable foot print in iraq and syria. what this report tells us is that they are still a viable terrorist network. >> reporter: now syria may be the place to watch. isis has always seen it as a safe haven. >> thank you so much. you can follow me on facebook and twitter. you can tweet the show. our coverage continues with jim acosta in for wolf in the situation room. thanks for watching. >>> happening now, met his match. former apprentice star omarosa releases another secret recording and says she w

one, we have to destroy isis and it is been clear that isis has to be taken out. we also have to have trained local troops who can take over. we are doing training as we speak. chairman has people assigned there specifically to train the locals. third, we need the geneva process, the yuan-recognized process -- u.n.-recognized process. if the locals are able to keep security during this time, we might be reducing our troops commensurate with their ability to deny isis a return. it comes down to finding a way to solve this problem assad is making. just to clarify your response to jennifer, are there no plans to send any more major military exercises korea? is that a change from four or were there previous plans? sec. mattis: we suspended several exercise at the direction of the president or the good-faith effort was made. we have done -- resident. the good for -- president. the good-faith effort was made. right now, there are no plans to go further. say the initial decision was a good-faith gesture and now you're not planning to suspend more, are you suggesting that

they are better at venting individuals that isis was -- that isis was. ahmad: if we talk about isis presence in iraq, it does not have a significant presence. based on my own talks with iraqi officials, they don't see that as a major threat. but the al qaeda organization has decentralized over five years. they are not a smaller organization, they are not are forces but there in iraq that have an association

i've not come across any perhaps one or two who support isis or the idea of isis and that's because isis makes al-qaeda look relatively tame. and the other thing is that what you have seen in iraq i've done it twice i've made appeals for hostages including british and american hostages to be released because i saw them dressed in orange jumpsuits and they were threatening to and did in some occasions execute these men now why did they dress them in orange that's not a natural color of prisoners in iraq and and and harnessed on and so forth the reason why was to show some kind of connection some kind of tangible link between their cause and the cause of the prisoners in guantanamo so you're both right in saying that it has been a horse of course elaborate for some of these guys but it doesn't detract from the fact that what you've got happening is something that that hasn't stopped over fourteen years fifteen years sixty six sixteen years it's continued it's proliferating and with. with trump saying he's going to keep kuantan him open that's the only next step is that isis prisoners will

was asking her very early in the interview give me a one word identification when you hear the word isis i thought about those one word answers we would give which would be horrendous horror horrific or murders of very dark to accurately describe the rhetoric and their hateful approach she started to lift off her one word answer which was identity, belonging, trust so when you do that double take i want to make sure. and that this is what she was saying. how do you describe the disconnect? and now you come to a very different conclusion. if you think of propaganda communicating with young people with that ecosystem on line. and that leads me to what i want to talk about for what the group is doing or other ones like them and what are solutions? it is analysis paralysis for really what we can do together to fight well and fight back. >> starting with my first key insight is audience segmentation and that matters as one of my colleagues often times says content is king distribution is clean and she wears the pants and the family and if you think about that the way think about isis is we're

that will take time to do -- isis. that will take time to do. secretary pompeo has been engaging with regional actors to contribute to the stabilization funds to get the basic services, water, electricity, jobs established in those towns. distinct from reconstruction, that is a longer-term endeavor and will not talk about reconstruction until there is a political solution. >> on yemen, what is it that the u.s. military is doing differently now in terms of advising to help the coalition get to the goal of curtailing civilian harm in yemen? it does not seem to have worked over the last three years. on iran, the administration has continue to elevate policy focus of confronting iran's regional influence. has that focus resulted in a diminishment in its reach so far and what new actions is the u.s. military taking? sec. mattis: on iran -- excuse me, i'm yemen, what are we doing different -- in yemen, what we are doing different is when we have been successful there was no news. we have seen a much more rigorous targeting process for the deliberate t

the coalition is focused on defeat isis mission and we continue to work with. to secure the region in southern syria the article colonel ryan is warning against quotes the russian ministry of foreign affairs which claimed that militants loyal to be a slum mix state and the own nusra front have infiltrated the roup on refugee camp and that the u.s. is well aware of it what's unclear or perhaps distracting is which claim colonel ryan is taking issue with that there are jihadist elements inside camp or that the united states government is aware of their presence required a refugee camp is located in the region of south eastern syria where the u.s. led coalition maintains a presence despite objections by the syrian government is one of the largest refugee camps in syria hosting tens of thousands of refugees of colonel ryan is claiming or to use a lying about the presence of jihadist militants he might want to check with the united nations in july a un security council warned about possible islamic state attacks from inside group on campus. the refugees in ripon cam

it's not like somebody gets up in a public square and says joining isis and people join. no, it's very targeted and nuanced so if you think about public health, one is how does it spread, third is hot spots. so you think about the networks and neighborhoods. a lot of the fighters the research shows it is highly localized so one of the things i talk about is that it's locals with 80% that came from tunisia came from a neighborhood of the majority came from a neighborhood in the southern part of brussels. if you think about it in terms of hot spots if we think of the city as the unit we are trying to study and tackling, we are coming up with a more robust way to think about intervention and campaigns because there have to be highly localized. again we have a lot to learn from the cdc and public health folks. it may not jump out at us but that is a very interesting and fruitful way to think about intervention. so they tend to think about this blueprint in the manhattan project you have to think about alternative pathways and incubators which the data shows it works and you h

in the mideast the defeat isis coalition continued to make strides liberated isis held territory in iraq and diminished the physical caliphate in syria i believe that this is down now to less than two percent of the land they want controlled even as we recognize the fight is not over as we strengthen our partnerships abroad the department is also looking inward to reform how we do business and that is our third line of effort we understand we cannot have lasting security for a country without solvency we are conducting the first audit in the department's history and i want that audit to find problems it's the only way we will be able to craft effective solutions this ensures we uphold the trust the congress new american people have placed in us to spend their tax dollars wisely and other reform efforts d.o.d.'s realize nearly four billion dollars in savings and if i eighteen so we can apply it to more lethality we initiated the repeal of seven several hundred unnecessary regulations across the department in hansen ari fish and sea and making it easier for industry to work with us and wit

i've not come across any perhaps one or two who support isis all the idea of isis and that's because isis makes al-qaeda look relatively tame. and the other thing is that what you have seen in iraq i've done it twice i've made appeals for hostages including british and american hostages to be released because i saw them dressed in orange jumpsuits and they were threatening to and did in some occasions execute these men now why did they dress them in orange that's not a natural color of prisoners in iraq and and and harnessed on and so forth the reason why was to show some kind of connection some kind of tangible link between their cause and the cause of the prisoners in guantanamo so you're both right in saying that it has been a horse of course elaborate for some of these guys but it doesn't detract from the fact that what you've got happening is something that that hasn't stopped over fourteen years fifteen years sixty six sixteen years it's continued it's proliferating and with open. with trump saying he's going to keep kuantan him open that's the only next step is that isis priso

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this city is awash with weapons left over from the war and the fight against isis.g for their second target. young men of the house are hauled out of their rooms. but the man they are after is missing. what has happened? it is hard to ignore basra's crippled infrastructure. addicts live in these impoverished districts where crystal meth addiction flourishes. many addicts and dealers end up here at this prison. this man is the deputy governor. what are the issues you face here? prison authorities have had to expand detention centres to cope with the numbers of addicts and dealers. major, this is one of the rooms? how many people in this room? and this is a combination of drug dealers and drug users? yeah. you just keep them all here together in one room? yeah. i am taken deep into the prison to see what the conditions are like for those who have been convicted. quite overwhelming. i mean, i've been to many prisons in many parts of the world but to see these people just crammed into here, they take shifts sleeping so one person will sleep and one person will stay up a

they're also wary there could be isis fighters inside there. >> ied. >> there's more here as well. >> reporter: every man knows all too well that death stalks their every move. more than 2,300 american troops

but is isis mounting a comeback now.t is far from over. >> last year the u.s. military dropped nearly 40,000 bombs on isis from the skies of iraq and syria, roughly 23,000 in the first half of last year. those strikes have been vastly reduced. if 88% fewer bombs as if as fewer targets remain. in 2014, isis controlled an area the size of ohio and parts of iraq and syria. today, roughly a thousand fighters are holed up in a small city on the eastern border with iraq. >> i don't declare victory until it's in the rearview mirror. as we close in with what happened with isis is they become more concentrated. there is hard fighting ahead. >> late last month, president trump said the end is near for the terrorist group. >> president trump: we are destroying the bloodthirsty killers known as isis, almost gone. will be coming out of syria very soon, let the other people take care of it now. >> a former senior counterterrorism director worn to the current president not to pull the roughly 2,000 troops out of syria and thousands mor

military striking isis positions, isis tunnels, trying to degrade their capacity. but while they have air superiority, the truth is that they still have to put troops on the ground to take the fight to the militants. this is perhaps the most dangerous part of the mission on this day. and we joined the u.s. troops as they go door-to-door checking for isis fighters and hidden bombs. the troops throw in a grenade to make sure it's clear. the troops have just moved into a whole series of compounds, in other words, houses that they're trying to clear. they have come across a number of ieds. these are some of the most deadly tracks in the world. laced with ieds. every footstep has to be made safe. every building has to be checked. here we found some bomb parts. >> ied. >> ied. >> yes. >> reporter: but along the track, our path is blocked. there's a booby-trapped bomb. this special forces sergeant tells us what we're looking at. that wooden stick is a pressure plate? >> yeah, that's the pressure plate. >> reporter: how common is it for you to come across this kind of devi

we are seeing all this attention on isis.body talking about isis and al qaeda has benefited from not being focused on. >> absolutely. the last 5 or 6 years, isis who has been a master of manipulating the media. al qaeda got smashed to pieces by army assets over the last 15 years, delta force, u.s. army rangers, green berets, literally just crushing these guys along with the taliban come into submission but we started focusing on isis, al qaeda quietly does what terror groups do. the difference this time is we are seeing the reemergence of a new leader which is usually the first red flag and that means by attaching his son's name to the terror organization is the leader, he ended up marrying the daughter of mohammed ata who crashed into one of the towers on 911. this is a monster psychological recruiting campaign. that is whatever organizations do. they putting it at the top of their profile, trying to blast this out onto the black web and essentially begin recruiting and the fact is terror groups today are going underground.

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their caliphate has crumbled, and soon will we -- we will erase isis from the face of the earth.applause] our president laid out our south asia strategy to give our fighters in afghanistan , in his words, the tools they need and the trust they have earned to fight and win. this president has also secured commitments around the world from our allies, commitments from our nato allies in particular to pay more for our common defense than ever before. president trump articulated a vision to ensure continued american dominance in land, sea, air, and space. [applause] fall, our president led negotiations with both parties of congress, and president trump signed into law the largest increase in our national defense in a generation. under president donald trump, the days of arbitrary budget cuts to our national defense are over. [applause] finally, in june of this year, while our president engaged in historic negotiations with north korea, he had our missing fallen on his heart. as the nation witnessed, thanks to the leadership and compassion of this commander in chief, our boys are fina

isis claiming responsibility. now, talk to me about on the scale of threats, isis, taliban are they working together? are these, you know, opposing, you know, sides that are threatening the country as a whole and its vulnerabilities? >> well, the way it's been explained to me, they are competing factions who occasionally will have some sort of cooperation on the ground like, say, trading arms. but for the most part, they're opposing each other. one of the main problems though is right now they are focused on u.s., nato, foreign troops on the ground, and that is giving them a reason to continue fighting. that's one of the things that has fueled the contractor eric prince's argument with the president, that he should be able -- you should allow hill to take over with just 6,000 contractors, get those troops out of the way. what that ignores is right now a lot of the nato forces on the ground are there because u.s. troops are providing them security and a lot of the afghan troops keep fighting because they have that

an isis killer comes to the u.s. as a refugee.e president's case to push for a more secure system? >> this is the exactly the reason this president decided that border security is a national security issue. barack obama failed the american people on this one issue. they had rigorous vetting. it was ridiculous! theylet all of these refugees in. they had no idea who they were or what their backgrounds were. this is a cop killer in iraq that we let in this country claiming to be a vegetable trader. this is outrageous conduct by the obama administration. that's why this president got elected and that's why in the mid-terms the american people have to understand the very stark differences we have here. we have open borders, we have sanctuary city, we have weak vetting by the democrats. on the other side you have a border wall and security and anti-santa barbaras. -- sanctuary cities. >> we have heard that the democrats are weak on border security. >> and thankful the fbi caught this animal. this is a good example we need to talk about

great job with isis we have just absolutely decimated isis just absolutely obliterated isis in iraq we're joshua landis head of middle east studies at the university of oklahoma gave us his thoughts on the issue. the united states does not want assad to become too strong there are hoping to keep leverage in order to try to push iran out of the country to get a better deal for the kurds and and of course they're also worried about what's going to happen if their profits where there are very complex negotiations and and russia is at the heart of them so there are many competing agendas in washington and as long as president trump is not spending a lot of money there i think he's happy to keep a few thousand troops if that increases america's leverage the united states does not want to spend a lot of money and that's quite clear and many people have been complaining bitterly about deaths typically in iraq and other areas that have been quite badly destroyed they've been pressuring a saudi arabia which just said it would spend another hundred million in syria stabilization they've been pushin

of syria to be distracted by ridiculous misinformation from oxy the coalition is focused on defeat isis mission and we continue to work with. to secure the l. towns region in southern syria the article in question was in an op ed that it quotes from the russian ministry of foreign affairs who asserted that i still had infiltrated work on refugee camp in syria and that the us government was fully aware of it which claimed as a coalition support to the misinformation about the presence of feisal in the camp or that the u.s. was aware of it the look on refugee camp is located in the southwestern all done such region in syria in an area controlled by the international coalition it's one of the largest refugee camps in syria hosting tens of thousands of refugees and islamic state infiltration is well documented the last un security council report braced fears over potential fateful plots from inside the camp densely populated ruled by on camp in southern syrian arab republic contains some eighty thousand internally displaced persons including families of i still fighters a situation which me

no means does it look finished take this point implying the west has somehow supported al nusra or isis i think we're backing people we have no idea who they are the rebels we call of the rebels the patriotic rebels we have no idea lot of people think you know that they are isis how about expanding it with the whole staff of the u.s. state department and they denied entry to the leader of the white helmets over security concerns and after all being mean to them is a capital offense to any individual in any group. suspected of. ties or relations with extremist groups or was that we had believed to be a security threat to united states we would act accordingly but as for those who are already on. interviewed a couple of them document is just ridiculous in many ways but it's also deeply worrying and concerning it is part of a witch hunt against people who don't accept the government line on military intervention in the middle east supporters based on no facts whatsoever. really. takes no account whatsoever my actual views on. what we're looking at here just with this blacklist is something