to fill that gap without this gas tax going up, is this one tax that maybe should go u >> no, john isight. at a time when personal income is falling, we don't want to raise the cost of the living for people. that would be terrible. moms drives kids around and people driving to work. the federal government raids the trust fund. >> like social security, right. >> it is not like the increase of revenue would go to rebuilding roads. that's not the case. >> rick, you don't like regressive tax and hit the poor and middle class. you couldn't be for this. >> i can be for it and shockingly i think john is wrong. i think we have a revenue problem. i am for it friends on the panel tell me if we can get more oil out of the ground here in the united states, gas prices will go down. guess what, here we are told that we are on the verge of becoming the oil super power in the world. what better time to raise the revenue bypportions taxes on people who use the gasoline. you have told me prices are coming down. now we will have all of the additional oil what a great way to raise money. >> emac, now we have