there are concerns of isil ability to move without having direct contact with isil. so taking action in our country and elsewhere, what are some of the effective ways you are countering isil messaging strategy? >> we are taking steps that are effective but we need to do more. we have been working closely with the number of countries in the coalition to identify communicators inside communities who have credibility with muslim populations. who will be able to lay out a compelling reasons why isil theology is completely bankrupt. we have been working with governments to counter extremism, working to get our message is out about military successes. a lot is working with the private sector and civil society to get the right kinds of messengers to speak to these kinds of groups. it is a very challenging part of our effort and we need to do more there. >> i completely agree with that. i think the lone wolf phenomenon and the problem is one that we don't have a good handle on. i think you mentioned that you thought there were signs that iran would like to be more active in

up to isil and others.ecognize we have to confront the economic grievances that exist in some of the areas that isil seeks to exploit. poverty does not cause terrorism, but as we have seen, when people, especially young people are impoverished and hopeless and feel humiliating that can fuel resentments that terrorists exploit, which is why sustainable development, creating opportunity and dignity, particularly for youth, is part of countering violent extremism. we recognize we also have to address the political grievances that isil exploits. i have said this before, when human rights are denied and citizens have no opportunity to redress their grievances peacefully, it feeds propaganda that justifies violence. so the real path to lasting stability and progress is not less democracy, i believe it is more democracy in terms of free speech and freedom of religion, rule of law, strong civil societies, all of that has to play a part in countering violent extremism. and finally, we recognize that our best partner

to isil. this apparent success of isil has allowed them to radicalize and group. the c.i.a. estimates of the manpower remains constant despite u.s. air strikes which suggests they are either wrong to begin with or that isil is replacing its losses in real time. neither is good. indeed this committee is disturbed by recent whistleblower allegations that officials at central command skewed intelligence assessments to paint an overly positive picture of conditions on the ground. we are currently investigating these allegations which we take with the utmost seriousness. the department of defense should as well, and if true, those responsible must be held accountable. ultimately, it's not -- ultimately, it's not that we are doing nothing to counter isil. it's that there is no compelling reason to believe that anything we are currently doing will be sufficient to achieve our strategic objective of degreagged and ultimately destroying isil. the united states and our partners do not have the initiativ

this severed isil's key line of communication and supply. it put isil on the defensive. these examples demonstrate how when we have credible ground forces, and we support them with our airpower, isil can suffer. we are working hard to build the capacity of our forces on the ground. since we began, we have trained more than 60 brigades and trained more than 13000 iraq key personnel. we have more in the pipeline. secretary carter said in july, trading has been slowed by lack of trainees coming into the training site. over the past several weeks we have had better participation and iraq has expanded the pool of units eligible for training. some of the units we trained are now participating more directly in the fight in areas such as romani. they are performing well in con that missions but they face a difficult fight ahead. our forces on the ground are involved in advising sunni fighters, both through providing trek training and through train the trainer type of assistance with the iraq he security forces. in terms of equipping these fighters, we recently delivered a battal

the hands of isil? >> my understanding is the city itself is still under isil control. some of the surrounding areas, particularly to the north, will be under peshmerga control. the city is, nobody's claiming otherwise that mosul is still under isil control. >> and is the peshmerga force still a substantial number of the iraqi army? >> well, the peshmerga isn't part of the iraqi army. it operates as a separate force. and the kurdish authorities have made clear that while the peshmerga will act in the area adjacent to mosul, it is not likely to take part in an assault on mosul itself. that will have to be carried out by iraq ei forces. >> yesterday there was some discussion about the future for syria, and there was some suggestions about no-fly zones. and then the point was made that there should be a cease-fire agreed by all sides before no-fly zones are put in place. how do you see that? >> yeah, it would be great. yeah, a cease-fire would be fantastic. we'd go with that. >> who's working on that? what

i expect the isil and the coalition against isil will stay over there as we watch putin decide what he's going to do for assad over on the coast. >> let's go and take another break. there is much more to talk about as these developments continue to come in. we heard just a while ago the secretary of defense address what is happening now with the russian airstrikes over syria. keep it here on the other side of the break. >> welcome back to al jazeera america. so a couple of big things happening today. we have been talking about the latest developments out of russia. out of syria, rather. the russian airstrikes, and we just finished wrapping up a press conference with secretary of defense ash carter. all this week the u.n. general assembly and a few developments out of the unga. let's check in with john terrett for the latest there. >> thank you, richelle. temperatures have dropped dramatically. it was hot and steamy and now we're all freezing outside of the general assembly. we'll take a look inside to see who is speaking, the lebanese prime minister. and the lebanese prime minister is he

-- assistance from isil. sadly whatever the reason was for the declaration of allegiance. boko haram terrorist groups went to be drawn into the center stage of global terrorism. since this development, it has lead to a lift in strategy and also to changes in ideology, recruitment and propaganda by boko haram. it's a cause to mass executions and public beheadings in the style of isil became noter toously wide [ inaudible ] of allegian allegiance. we also know that sub saharan africa has been receiving attention for purposes of radicalization and excitement. the is magazine, the [ inaudible ] sharia alone will rule africa, boko haram was congratulated for joining the caravan of jihad, saying that they would now guard another frontier of caliphate. boko haram is neither protecting nor promoting islam. islam is a religion of peace. and does not advocate the killing of innocent people. [ inaudible ] ethnic tensions and that he was in africa, isil is making recruitment campaigns and strident efforts to expand in th

hey have rolled isil back in this area and have had ignificant impacts on isil's freedom of movement. and equip program, we're training more than 100 fighters. this number is definitely maller than we'd hoped for, in part because as the chairman and others have noted, we put our trainees through a rigorous screening progress. we closely aligned all of our fforts with our 62-country coalition and as an example, decision to nt provide us with bases has enabled us to extend the fight. before turning to general ustin, i want to address russia's involvement in syria. e're closey tracking russia's efforts to deploy additional equipment to syria. both russia and iran has continued to support politically milltrarily, the regime that people. red its own what we need in syria is a to the l solution conflict. any actions that empower the regime are unwelcome and would and not bilizing productive. we're not going to solve it quickly, but we have the right components in place and we're dynamically adjusting our campaign. achieving a lasting defeat is going to require commitment, as well as commitm

will continue to pressure isil. the knew syrian force is additive to that effort. >> is it still the goal to have about 12,000 they're? what is the expectation? >> at the pace we are going will not reach the goal we had initially established for ourselves. the overall goal is to make sure we have enough to get worked on the ground, whether it is why pg elements or other elements, we can and are achieving the same effect. it is not aspirational. we are doing this today. >> and is the strategy changing for the work on the ground? >> we continue to look at the best means to employ them, and we will do what you would expect us to do and make adjustments as opportunities present themselves. >> thank you. >> just to follow-up, there is a foreign policy, anxious to avoid another damaging setback. looking at attaching small numbers of fighters to larger, established forces. can you confirm or deny that that option is being looked at? >> center, we are reviewing the way forward. >> i am asking if the option is being consider

especially about the question of syria and isil. what we have now is one coalition, we have two coelations. on the one hand, and jordan and others on the other hand, so is there a real sound international coalition that is that merits the name, or is there a political expediency, more of the same, conflicts and accomplicety among certain groups and not aening mo others is this more of the same core rhetoric that we are hearing today from the russians and the americans on this question, are shay vying for power and influence of more of the same. again, it is not clear, but certainly all the signs that there is no real coherence strategy to fight, despite two years of more of the same, and despite the fact that the strategy as we have known, has failed. if we look at the three countries that have joined, so one arab, obviously mainly muslim, population countries and there an emphasis on other countries? so perhaps breaking out of the u.s., russia, and of course iran playing a part, but other countries playing a part in this fight agai

direct contact with isil. so taking action in our country as well as elsewhere. so what are some of the effective ways you are countering isil's messaging strategy? ms. wormuth: we are taking some step it is that are effective but need to do more. part of what -- we have been working, for example, closely with a number of countries in the coalition to identify communicators inside those communities who have credibility with muslim populations and who will be able to lay out a compelling reasons why isil's theology is completely bankrupt. we have been working with governments to counter violent extremism, we have been working to get our messages out about military successes that we have more effectively. but a lot of it is working with the private, sort of the private sector and civil society to try to get the right kinds of messengers to speak to these kinds of groups. it's a very challenging part of our effort and i think we need to do more there. senator hirono: i agree with that. i think the lone wolf pheno

is it just isil positions or is it also opposition positions?i think that will become more clear in the hours ahead, the american state department is -- is quoting sources as saying it is believed that possibly anti-government militias and rebels have been instruct, and the syrian rights observatory for human rights said 27 civilians were killed in the raids, and i think it will become more clear in the next few hours exactly where the attacks came, and what they hit, but we can only quote, really, at the moment, the ministry of defense in moscow saying these were directed at isil arms and ammunitions supplies. >> peter thank you for that. peter sharp in moscow, there. a defense analyst and columnist with a russian newspaper says it won't be easy for moscow to differentiate between the syrian opposition and isil. >> in a recent interview just published president putin said he doesn't know about the position in syria, they are all terrorists, he said, so it could be very much also the assad opposition forces too, especially like those that would

of isil. >> my understanding is the city itself is still under isil control. some of the areas particularly to the north will be under peshmerga control. nobody is complaining otherwise that it is still under isil control. >> a substantial tphanumber of iraqi army? >> it operates as a spret for . separate force. peshmerga will act in the area adjacent to mosul. it is not likely to take part in an attack on mosul itself. that will have to be carried out by iraqi forces. >> yesterday there was some discussion about the future for syria. there was some discussion where the point was made there should be a cease-fire agreed by all sides before no-fly zones are put in place? >> that would be great. a cease-fire would be fantastic. we would go with that. >> who is with you on that? what diplomatic efforts -- >> stefan, the u.n. special envoy has been working on the idea of a cease-fire. but these things are easy to sit in a room to talk b. they're a bit more difficult to implement on the ground when there are so many shifting alliances. they are referred to one such

the main beneficiary will be isil.any of us have said from the beginning that the conflict in syria will not be contained and for four years we have seen evidence of that. hundreds of thousands of that, driven and misplaced people, the use of chemical weapons from the west terrorist army in the world. we are seeing the failed policy, the flood of people pouring out of the middle east that has led to the worst refugees crisis in europe since world war ii. the administration has promised to accept 10,000 refugees in the next year. until we face this, the refugees will keep coming. isil will grow stronger, the middle east will descent further into chaos and u.s. national security interest will be put at greater risk. for four years, we have been told that there is no military solution to this conflict. as if anyone believes there is. and there are no good options, if any -- as if anybody believes there are. that our influence is limited, as if that has not always been the case. that we will not succeed overnight, that it

regime which more than isil. they want to authorize the close military t and other assistance to make sure our syrian partners would be successful. clear ontraditions were from the beginning. warned to change force a lot is cost money and of time. to continue supporting this changes. we need major now steppedcuum has vladimir putin. advantage.g according to media reports, deployed aircraft, armored personnel carriers, russian marines and housing up personnel in western syria. this is an expansion of russian east that wemiddle have not seen in four decades allow putin to pop facade, undermine u.s. goals, policies and operations and prolong this horrific conflict. he main beneficiary will be isil. many of us have said from the the conflict in syria will not be contained and or four years we have seen evidence of that. hundreds of thousands of that, people, themisplaced use of chemical weapons from the the terrorist army in world. we are seeing the failed policy, out lood of people pouring of the middle east that ha

at the same time, it's hitting isil in syria. in a statement the pkk said the strikes spelled the end of the peace process. we can now speak to to a military analyst. it does seem as though the gloves are off. this is the end of the peace process. >> yes, this is the end of the peace process. after the elections when the ruling party for the first time in 13 years lost its majority to set up a single party government, we understood than the peace process has been buried, replaced by the resumption of the riot. >> it has been pointed out that the turkish government when announcing that it was resuming military operations against the pkk as well as targets, isil targets in syria, many more operations were conducted against the pkk than isil. >> exactly. against isil, turkish air force staged unilaterally. one operation. since then turkey has been mainly targeting the pkk bases in northern iraq. and the presidents told cnn international the day before yesterday that pkk and pyd is the syrian kurdish group is the number one threat fo

to isil. it's important that we wait for the inspector general's investigation before completed before making a judgment, but i have no doubt you will take such allegations as seriously as we do in congress and we take them very seriously. like senator mccain, i hope the -- i expect the committee will be kept apprised and be active in terms of the recommendations. let me thank both witnesses for their testimony this morning. thank you, mr. chairman. senator mccain: ms. wormuth. ms. wormuth: thank you, chairman mccain and ranking member reed as well as members of the committee. thank you for the opportunity to be here today to give you an update on the military aspects of our counter-isil campaign. it's also a pleasure, as always, to be here with general austin. we work very closely together every day on a range of issues so it's nice to be with him today. as the chairman said it's been over a year since the united states and a coalition of nations began the military campaign against isil. when

i have not seen isil flying any airplanes that require sa-15s or sa-22s. have not seen isil flying any airplanes that require sophisticated air-to-air capabilities. these very sophisticated air defense capabilities are not about isil, but they are about something else. >> wow. ashleigh, that could not be clearer. i don't know about you, general marks, but it could not be cl r clearer, what russia is doing is not going after isis. russia is going into prop up assad despite the very vehement condemnation, and the accurate condemnation by secretary of state and president obama, and russia is going in to prop up that regime. >> and the first concern that comes to mind with the aircraft reck is sill ati reck -- reconciliations going in, what is it for? >> to provide denial of anybody going after their the advance on the ground. that is the stor y they would use. but clearly, it puts a bubble over their capabilities to act with complete impunity and to conduct air operations with support on the ground if they were in anticipation of something else coming after t

it is a myth that assad and his laborers have been directed at isil over the time in which isil has est. a safe haven for itself in syria. indeed i believe the unit new york times documented a whole series of transaction between isil and the syrian regime. all the assessments show that in terms of the attraction of jihad ease, the ongoing tactics that he pursued in trying to retain power, arresting protesters or anybody suspected of dissent and then the mass torture that has occurred in syrian prison, these, as my british colleague said yesterday, every barrel bomb that syria and assad drop is a gift to isil. so we have made clear from the beginning that it is going to require a robust coalition to defeat isil. the idea that doubling down on the assad approach to counter insurgency, namely to treat isil and moderates and civilians and hospitals as equally worthy targets, that is a difficult approach. our shared interest is an interest that we share with russia and that is degrading and defeating isil. the approach of of supporting a regime that has helped fuel the rise of isil, that is

[inaudible] >> is free of isil and how much -- >> the city itself is under isil control.but the city is -- nobody is claiming otherwise than the mosul is still under isil control. [inaudible] >> iraqi army or -- >> isn't possibly iraqi army. it's a separate force. they have made clear that why peshmerga will act in the area adjacent to mosul it is not likely to take parton assault. it would have to be carried out by iraqi forces. >> yesterday a discussion about future for syria and some -- how do you see that? >> that would be great. the reality is -- humor to a diplomatic -- >> it has been working on. there is a bit more difficult to implement on the ground when there are so many parties involved and so many shifting alliances to, you know, earlier on. frankly, best sellers coming together, tactical alliances particular towns or city that have been threatened or assaulted and it is a very fluid and complex situation, and i'm afraid the prospect of achieving cease-fire is further away. >> ho do -- how do you think the turkeys on the kurdish in syria and also the iraqi --

it's isil and other extremist groups of the same illk. yes. those are the ones that we and the coalition are combating and, obviously, we welcome contributions to that and again if the russians change their approach to one that doesn't have the contradictions that this one does, that would be a basis of actually a welcome basis of cooperation. because it's very easy to understand why the russians are concerned about isil. they have experience with islamist extremists also, sad and bitter experience. so i can well understand. on the other hand, i think that this kind of action is only going to exacerbate that tendency to, for them to find themselves in the bulls eye. >> mr. secretary, time for one more? >> back as the chief, you mentioned that there would be a lot more mergers agong defense companies in the coming years. we have been seeing more of that recently, there have been a lot of concerns that feels like it will eliminate competition. i was wondering your assessment of these murders and are they starting to go too far? >> i can't commen

because everybody wants to fight isil, don't they? and of course they do. what includes bashar al-assad regime in syria, because at the united nations charter dictates that the seat in the chamber of the general assembly and the security council if you ever get a seat on a rotating basis goes to the government of the kay in the capitol, and that is bashar al-assad's administration, and putin's line is, you know, you are best to stick with him, because he's the best way. if he's there and involved in these negotiations, this is the best way to resolve this terrible long-running civil war. president obama is saying, no, no, no, no. that is not right. this man created the condition for the rise of isil. >> and the killing of more than 200,000 -- >> and that's the thing. the u.s. says kills more than isil he has got to go. >>> we're moving on now to abbas who is calling for an end to the direct negotiations with israel. he wrote an op-ed for the "huffington post" saying: abbas says similar negotiations worked with the iran deal. >> reporter: a symbolic day for

and dealing with isil.nd the russian ambassador, saying about today's meeting he said it undermined the work of the security council. now there may be a reason for that here. >> which shows that the bigger problems here. and those problems are retted to syria, and asaad, and can asaad be part of a coalition can the iranians be part of an isil coalition. there are big problems here and of course if you are trying to fight an enemy, you have president obama there you can defeat him on the battlefield. that's fine if you are in iraq. they managed to retake soon after they did that. they retook rahmad di, but very hard to fight a battle if you enemy has a safe haren and ungoverned space across the border in syria, and the only military efforts underway in syria, is aerial bombardment. and i think it is clear, from the lessons of history that it is very very hard to defeat an entrenched enemy that controls towns and the villages and controls the destiny of a local population, only by using air power. >> but so j

it is surrounded by isil fighters. many people have left because the armed group has repeatedly launched too fast to capture one of the last centers in the province that hasn't fallen to forces. those in the town are largely cut off from the rest of the country. weekly deliveries helps them survive. >> one sack of flour costs around $900. most of the time we sleep without eating because we can't afford food. >> these people are poor but remain in their homes. life hasn't been easy. >> we are thankful for the aid, but there is a lack of electricity. we ask the government to help us. >> it has long been an isil target, surrounded by desert, but it hasn't been easy defending this town. in one offensive, isil used 39 suicide car bombings. >> the enemy has tried to advance and attacked it more than 100 times in the past year and a half. isil has still not been able to enter and establish a foothold in the region. >> the road is an important supply line, but has it been vulnerable to attacks. it links the air base to one of

has rarely chosen himself to fight isil. as the terrorists have made inroads throughout syria and iraq, raping, enslaving, murdering civilians along the way. the syrian regimes did not try to stop them. instead, they focused all their military power on moderate opposition groups who were fighting for a voice in syria. >> it's not clear how quickly the u.s. will get the talks it wants with officials, and it's not clear what will it will do if future russian airstrikes do in the go after isil fighters but instead the fighters opposed to bashar al-assad. >> we're joined live from washington, d.c. ros, questions being asked as you would expect about who exactly these russian airstrikes are targeting. >> that's right, the real concern is that the russians are coming in to basically prop up the regime of bashar al-assad. in recent weeks the russians have been suggesting even as recently during the meeting between president obama and president putin on monday at the united nations in new york, that more should be done to include ba

on monday was the risk that isil poses to u.s.nterests, to russian interests, not just around n the region but around the world. both countries shared that priority and so the question show what what can we discern about russia's military strategy? and i think i would just -- i'm no military expert but it does seem unwise to start drawing those firm conclusions bush administrationed on military strikes that have just taken place over the last few hours. so we'll have a variety of ways to get greater insight into their strategy. that will include conversations between secretary kerry and foreign minister lavrov that will include the operational level deconfliction talks and include the department of defense's analysis about exactly what targets russia has hit and what the result of those strikes has been. >> reporter: but the fact that no one is saying they seem to be hitting anything to do with isis, does that not bother you? >> i'm just saying that our experts are taking a close look at this. it's too early for me to share conclu

russia said against isil near humes. the u.s. announced it too had carried out air strikes near aleppo while also casting doubt on russia's word on who and what it struck. the u.s. military announced what's called deconfliction, a process where two forces make sure they don't attack each other. al jazeera has been covering it all from the white house to the state department to the pentagon. is this being viewed as a day of serious escalation in the syrian war? >> i don't think there's any doubt and there's still a question as to exactly what vladimir putin is up to in syria. this is not unexpected but the timing is certainly catching u.s. policymakers flat footed as they have over the course of this military buildup in syria with the aim of backing al assad. three reasons why these officials are upset, why the who, and the when. the why, the essential conflict between the u.s. and its allies and vladimir putin. putin wants to back assad. the president obviously sticking by his policy that assad has to go. there's no future for hi

we have isil taking route. >> taking root across iraq. in the last year they did take tikrit but lost ramadi. all the while foreign fighters have been streaming in. >> we have recorded 20,000 names from over 100. >> isil is attracting more people because it has created that state-like entity, and the coalition to dismantle that state is the biggest deficiency of the effort. >> lack of progress against isil is not the only problem. there is not unity among the community. russia's prime minister did not take part in the meeting and iran was not invited. they'll discuss similar issues organized by russia in the separate couple. two separate meetings and one central point of disagreement. everyone says that everyone should joy assad to figh in the fighting. >> russia is accused of helping separatist fighters in eastern ukraine. >> despite the fact that until now today there is no doubt that this is an aggressive war against my country. against ukraine. russian leadership orders to take in its military service men and identification mark of it

for isil. that is a testament to our intensive strategy using military options but also diplomacy, counter financing and others. that is a strategy we pursued and the president has been pleased that we have been able to build and hold together a coalition of more than 60 countries to join us in this effort and that's why we continue to be confident about our long-term success. >> long-term, general dempsey also suggest a the broader fight in this regio will take a decade or more. is that something you all are willing to -- spin the president has said many times this will be a long-term proposition. it would require sustained commitment and attention to the united states and policymakers in this country to receive that thus far. we're going to continue to make sure that we rely on and build up the capability of our 60 nation coalition to degrade and ultimately destroy isil. [inaudible] -- you said earlier that once this iran do is secure that the likelihood of getting a new treaty would -- [inau

they are all talking about syria, iraq, the refugees and isil. and abbas has changed that now at least for the next 24 hours. >> john terrett thank you. >>> by the end of the week we will know who the next house speaker will be. john boehner released this statement today: the house today will take up a stopgap government bill that will keep the government running until december, but the measure does not defund planned parenthood. a demand that some republicans were making. michael shure joins us from washington. does this mean the government won't shut down? >> well, it means it won't shut down for now randall. what they are going to do is vote on this measure. they voted on it 78-20. another surprise. 78-20 in the senate was a lot bigger than most people thought, and it speaks a little bit to what mitch mcconnell was able to do with the conservative wing of his senate caucus there in the senate. but it doesn't mean that it is going to go away. it goes until december 11th. and that is one of the things that has frustrated harry reid. >> looking a

isil is making an effort to expand into some communities into sahara region and isil's operations have led to the terrorism and violence extremism that leads to two sides of the same coin. the effort of the united nation and the international community to contend with isil. we needed to do more. we need to take military action, combine with effective border security, intelligence coalition, and share it and take action. these alone may not suffice. but they can turn the tide and drive the forces of recruitment, movement, and it is set to operation of foreign terrorist fighters and their associated radical extremist. in order to put in place components of an approach to counter isil and eventually defeat we must address the source. we must find a way to prevent people from coming to terror in the first place and turning to violent extremism. they are lured in from lack of family and their expectations here are pushed. while addressing how to deal with this, we should let the military be tangable but it be crucial. good governance which calls for accountability, and transparency and rule

has really chosen himself to fight isil. as the terrorists made inroads throughout large swaths of syria and iraq, raping, enslaving, murdering civilians along the way, the syrian regime did not try to stop them. instead, it focused all of its military power on moderate opposition groups who were fighting for a voice in syria. >> it is not clear how quickly the u.s. will get the talks it wants and it is not clear what it will do if future russian airstrikes go after not after isil fighters but instead the fighters opposed to bashar al-assad. roslind jordan, al jazeera. >> and al jazeera's correspondent peter sharp sends this report from moscow. >> well, it's got to be said that the russian airstrikes were expected. they have been steadily building up their military arsenal in syria for the last 30 days, and nearly 60 aircraft on the tarmac near latakia the air base. but it's not that the kremlin announced the fact that the raid was taking place, it was u.s. central command who was given an hour's notice of russian intentions

some pledge allegiance to isil. others don't trust the government in baghdad because of its sectarian policies. and then there are those who don't like to be government supporters, but at the same time they say they're not enemies of the state. >> for now the tribe has agreed to partner with the government. their unit, like other tribal forces, will secure their own areas once the national guard is created, but the plan is opposed by many shia military. there are some already a weak state. >> the national guard is a good project but there needs to be a centralized authority. >> it seems that it is working here but beyond this town's borders there is an evaluate that some fear. >> we need a civil state. not a religious state, and not a tribal state. we should build a proper army. now each area has an army, and this is the first stone to divide iraq. >> the mistrust of the people in the government is still deep. many are members of the saddam hue taken's army and who were not given a police in the new iraq and blame t

says this time of indiscripple nature bombing is fueling support for isil. so if you can find a political route that eventually leads to ass assad's removal, the white house believes isil would then be weakened. bernard smith, al jazeera, turkey. >>> the french far right politician la pen is to face trial for compares muslim street to nazi occupation. he talked about some muslims pray in the streets when mosques are full. speaking against it today, mr. penn said it was a scandal a politician is trying for expressing their beliefs. >>> the chief executive has apologized for the worldwide scandal caused about i by the rigging of u.s. car emission test. at least 11 million vehicles are thought to be effect. he'll work to win back the trust of consumers. >> translator: to make it very clear, manipulation at vw must never happen again. many millions as kro the world trust our brands, our cars and technologies. i'm endlessly sorry we betrayed the trust. i apologize profusely to our clients and authorities and entire public for the wrong going. >> the scandal has s

it's the one point that's hindering isil. james, al jazeera, united nations. >>> that special meeting that james is talking about coincides with a new congressional report. 30,000 foreigners have traveled to iraq and syria to fight since 2011. the government's failing to stop its citizens from joining isil. it is unprecedented speed. >>reporter: even as u.s. president barack obama appealed for help abroad. a report at home finds that the united states lacks a national strategy to deal with this issue. some 30,000 foreign fighters have flown into iraq since 2011. it fiends that the unite -- it finds that the united states law enforcement is not keeping up with the pace. they are using secure websites and apps to recruit americans and other. the reports found that 4,500 came from western countries. 250 of them, from the united states and it calls for better coordination. that is one of the things that president obama was looking for in convening this meeting at the united nations. >>> a strong show of support for a health care

how can it be a united front in the fight against isil. >> well, everything is in flux.nd i think that broke out, and almost unprecedented way, certainly it's been many years since we have seen two world leaders disagree so publicly. we saw public display of diplomacy yesterday. we saw acrimony, we awe steelly cold glances at one another. one of the more awkward photo ops the hand shake between president obama and president putin yesterday at the conclusion of their dualing speeches. but it is clear now there has been a flurry of meets between secretary of state jon kerry, sergei lavrov, the white house clearly admits it was caught flat footed they are still trying to determine exactly what vladimir putin and russia's goals are. during the meeting that they are in fact first and foremost interesting in defeating isil, however, there is very -- one very large area of disagreement, and that is the posture or towards bashar al asaad, the policy towards him. vladimir putin said it publicly, and elsewhere, he has a stay the only viable alternative in syria, the president was

they're expected to join the counter offensive against isil.but they're misstrutted by government troops, and the political battle is slowing down their military advance. >> u.s. weapons given to the iraqi army are now being used by iranian-backed shia militiamen on the front lines against isil. these men who operate under the government backed popular mobilization forces have been doing most of the fighting in the absence of a capable military. but they're growing strength and their presence particularly in the sunni pro vince of anbar has raised concerns in washington. >> the international coalition and it's region partners are pressuring the baghdad government to reduce the number of fighters in the mobilization forces 103,000 to 70,000. they want the number of fighters to increase to 50,000. >> the u.s. has been training an skipping sunni tribal fighters as part of its strategy to defeat isil. a new consignment of weapons has arrived and local officials allied to the iraqi government are making clear that these men will eventually become pa

one thing is certain: the vast majority of states around this table know that the isil forces, isil itself cannot bow defeated as long as bashar al-assad remains president of syria. it cannot happen because of who has lined up with whom and because of the nature of these protagonist. and the reason is defined because of how this fight began. this fight began when young syrians looking for a future, wanting nothing more than opportunity and jobs and education, when they went out to demonstrate for the future and to claim the aspirations of young people. and bashar al-assad sent his thugs out to beat them up. the parents were outraged by the fact their children demonstrating peacefully were beaten up and they went out with their kids and they were met with bullets. that is how this whole thing began. people in the country looking for a future who were instead met with repression, torture, gassing, barrel bombs, assad will never bow accepted by those he has harmed. never possible to become a legitimate leader in the future, never possible to lead the unification of a country. that can not hap

i don't think isil's destroyed in that construct. i think they're empowered and i think every ally we have in the mideast is at risk and everybody in the mideast would turn against us. so as to immigration. down the have to be a rocket scientist to figure out to get to 270 electoral votes we have to do better with hispanics. and apparently you do have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what's going on in the republican party. all i can say is that if i were an hispanic voter i would be attracted to the republican party of limited government, strong military, faith-based values. but i'd have a hard time getting there if i believed you were going to deport my mother. let me tell you about life as it is. the 11-plus million illegal immigrants, many have been here for decades, a young woman came 20 years ago with one child who is illegal. she's had two more since then. both are legal. under the 14th amendment. one has joined the marine corps. he's been to iraq once, afghanistan once fighting for all of us. mom and dad are very proud

has had a coalition for over a year fighting isil. it seems by setting up this coordination center in baghdad to involve the russians, the iranians, the iraqis and the assad regime, russia is effectively setting up another coaliti coalition. the interesting point there is that one of those countries appears to be in both iraq, which is, of course, one of the u.s.s. main partners in its coalition. i think this has miffed the u.s. a bit. there was a meeting earlier in new york between john kerry and the russian foreign minister sergey lavrov whien he laid out these plans, this was secretary kerry's response. >> i think the critical thing is that all of the efforts need to be coordinated. this is not yet coord natured. i think we have concerns about how we are going to go forward, but that's precisely what we are meeting on to talk about now. our presidents will be meeting tomorrowtion, the beginning of a genuine effort to decon conflict but to find a way forward that will be effective, a united secular syria that can be at peace and sta

we have isil taking root. >> reporter: taking root across large swaths of syria and iraq.luding the syrian city of raqqa, mosul in iraq. >> reporter: iraq's prime minister said his government was making progress, in the last year, they did retake tikrit but lost rah mad and i all the while accord to this tur turkish prime minister foreign fighters have been streaming in. >> for be terrorist fighters since 2011, we have now recorded down almost 20,000 names from over 100 countries. >> isis' success is the reason for its success it is attract more people because it has created the stat like thing and >> reporter: lack of progress against isil is the no the only problem. there is he not unity among the i want national community russia's foreign minister did not take part in the meeting and iran was not invited. on wednesday the u.n. security council will discuss very similar issues in a meeting organized by russia, the current president of the council. two separate meetings one central point of disagreement the russians say everyone should join with president assad to fight i

fight for isil.at method that some put forward wouldn't work. we need a syria free of both. >> do you believe president putin when he says that he is involved in syria because he wants to help take out isil? >> i think putin understands that islamist extremist terrorism is against russia's president just as america's interest or britain's interest. he knows that is a threat to him. he has been up to now willing to work with assad. we need to convince him that actually the only way you will have a syria free of isil is to have a replacement of assad. that's what we need these intensive talks and discussions about. meeting between obama and putin last night was important. but we need much more of that to try to build some sort of shared understanding. that's why i met the iranian president yesterday. >> prepared to work with russia and iran in the battle against isis in syria? >> i will work with anybody to build syria free of assad and isil. no british prime minister met the iranian president for 35 y

some have pledged allegiance to isil.hers don't trust the government in baghdad because of its sectarian policies. and then there are those who don't like to be called government supporters, but at the same time they say they're not enemies of the state. for now the tribe has agreed to partner with the government. their unite, like other tribal forces, will secure their area once the national guard is created. some sunnies are worried about an already weak state. >> there knee to be a centralized authority. >> on the surface it seems that the government outreach to tribes is working here. but beyond this town's borders there is a reality that some fear. >> we need a civil state, not a religious state or tribal state. we should whether a proper army. each area has an army, and this is the first stone to divide iraq. >> the mistrust between the people and the government is still deep. many were members of saddam hussein's army who were not given a place in the new iraq, and they blame the government for pursuing a sectarian

the meeting is being held to discuss the fight against isil.vrov says there should be more coordination between those on the ground and forces outside of syria. he also called for more dialogue between syria parties. >>> and large numbers of people are leaving the afghan city of kunduz that is now under the taliban control. >>> the fight against isil is continuing in iraq. the u.s. along with the iraqi government have been battling the group for over a year now, but now russia is also getting involved. moscow plans to have a command and control center set up in two months. meaning there will be now two international command and control centers in the fight against isil. >> reporter: you don't have to very far in baghdad to find evidence of iranian involvement. but now the russians are taking the lead, setting up a command and control center with the iranians, the iraqis, and the syrians. the man in charge of the national security and defense committee says a budget will be al aloe -- allocated and a base set up. there are now two international

- of isil. >> my understanding is the city itself is still under isil control. particularly areas to the north will be under peshmerga control. nobody is is claiming otherwise. mosul is still under isil control. >> and a substantial number of the iraqi army? >> peshmerga operates as a separate force. and the kurdish authorities have made clear while the peshmerga will act in the area adjacent to mosul, that would have to be carried out by iraqi forces. >> yesterday there was some discussion about the future for syria. and there was some suggestions about no fly zones. this should be a cease-fire agreed by all sides. how do you see that? >> great. a cease-fire would be great. we would go with that. >> who is working on that? >> stefan, the u.n. special envoy has been working on the idea of a cease-fire. but these things are easy to sit in a room and talk about. they are more difficult to implement on the ground when there are so many parties involved, and so many shifting alliances. they referred to one such alliance earlier on. it can frankly involve strange bed

far more deaths than isil itself. isil has become this kind of owe over. >> it's the hot button issue, but you're saying not necessarily deservedly so, that there are other issues. >> it deserves enormous attention. i mean, it's a very frightening and worrying phenomenon causing instability and syria, iraq and potentially beyond. the origins life with the regime and the regime is responsible for far more deaths than isil. until there is solution to what happens to the regime and transition to a better dispensation, ideally democratic dispensation, there will not be an end to the war. just fixing isil in isolation is no kind of solution. >> so compare where world leaders were last year with the u.n. and this particular topic to where they are this year. has anything changed? >> it has. as your correspondent was saying, russia has now interend. >> directly militarily in syria. it was supporting the regime actively, it is now actually furnishing them more directly with weapons. they always did. one obviously important th