are fighting isis, for example border of aleppo, isis or 50 one side, and 40 airstrikes per day.eshmerga he kurdish remain that strongest force against isis. but baghdad has refused to more than em anything light weapons. weeks ago nt a couple of a small squadron 10 hmerga tried to take on pieces of armor that were put into play by isis -- they hem -- billy had small arms, and as a call in nce they airstrikes -- it took a considerable time for the come in -- by then, they were wiped out on the ground. that is why, we've heard from the foreign minister, the for the peshmerga for armor and artillery, for long mortars, for missiles, that on met need is a very real consequence for them. the recent , that accord between baghdad and -- for the kurds.t if not, the ranking member and do just egislation to that. although the administration knows that 60+ countries have joined the anti-ice's campaign, some key partners perceive the strategy as misguided -- turkey, for one. the saudi's, and other areas, do not see how allowing assad on the ground e in aleppo makes any sense. a no-fly they p

not organizationally connected to isis but inspired by the isis message. looking at his social media accounts. i've been looking at his accounts over the last few hours. isis is trying to encourage these lone wolf actors to launch attacks back this the west. in september the isis spokeman issued telling supporters it's their religious duty to launch attacks. this has had a bigger effect on followers in the west. we saw a string of attacks in canada, also the attack in new york and plot in october to target soldiers and police in london. these people were devouring this from the syrian isis member which has been deeply influential around the world with radicals. >> the other interesting aspect is this suspect, self-described shake, allowed hostages to keep their cell phones. he also posted -- shn posted four videos on youtube with one of the hostages in front of that flag, that islamic flag asked for hostage taker's demands. i guess it would inspire others. was it smart? what was he trying to do? >> it's real smart. they're trying to send out a worldwide me

let me talk about isis and what you see as the threat today from isis. from isis, and the like. we have to understand this is a global jihadist movement and it's not just the threat that we are seeing today, although the dealing for many of us with syria and iraq, we have to also remember that we have to .ook at sinai we have to look at libya, the other elephant in the room. --ali, molly, nature m ali, nigeria. --se are all different organizations with different names, but the same beliefs. that mean -- >> what does that mean to deal with these you go >> we are reaching out with each other. in jordan, we are dealing with syria and iraq. but in partnership with some of the other countries, i just came a few days ago from a meeting over the importance of reaching out to our african friends. two countries that i think will be the lead in dealing with these issues in africa, obviously, the president of gabon dealing on one side with the central african states, and kenya dealingof with shabbat moving up to somalia. abab moving up to samaria. i know we have to concentrate on syria and

he didn't even have an isis flag.s a byof, bring your own flag, and he didn't even have the right flag. what he had was a shotgun, a little rhetoric, access to social media and the news media that picked up on the idea much terrorism because once we hear that, we think if it can happen in australia, it can happen anyplace. the answer is, this guy, i don't think is a lone wolf. i think he's a lone nut. but a lone nut with a gun is just as deadly as anybody who functions under the shroud of terrorism. >> you know, it's such a good point you both are making. mike y i want to bring you into the conversation. we know we define terrorism not like traditional crimes or traditional warfare, but we define it in part by its intent to terrorize and that involves some public reaction. our two other experts here telling us sometimes a rush to potentially overreaction. mikey, i'm reminded as a counterexample of the gulf war when famously there were scud missiles going into missile and a question about how to respond to that and how

as they're fighting isis, for example on the border there, aleppo has isis on one side and 30, 40 air strikes a day, barrel bombs being dropped from the assad regime on their forces while they're trying to fight isis. in iraq, the kurdish peshmerga remain the most effective fighting force against isis, but the administration and baghdad have refused thus far to supply them with anything more than light weapons as they go up against isis's tanks and tar tillry and of these and other heavy weapons. tragic event a couple of weeks ago, when you had a small squadron of peshmerga try to take on ten tanks or ten armored personnel carriers, ten pieces of armor that were put into play by isis against them. they only had small arms, and as a consequence, they called in for air strikes, but after 2 1/2 hours, it took quite a considerable time for these air strike to come in. they had been wiped out on the ground. this is why we have heard from the foreign minister, that the situation for the peshmerga, with their need for armor and for artillery, for long range mortars, for anti-tank missiles, t

isare bombing isis, that good. i wish we had learned in january when there were only a few thousand of them. today we are playing catch-up. i recently got back from iraq, about two months ago. in 2009 as a military pilot, the war was one. when i went back, it was very devastating to see. i hope that we begin to hear from this administration, a strategy for syria. i echo what a lot of people have said. 200,000 dead syrians today, many of which are women and children, by the evil in the leadership of bashar al-assad, who is no protector of christianity. he is an evil, that person, an incubator of isis. the reason this rebellion islamists, the reason they are attracted, is they see isis, some people see them as the best alternative to a side. tois important for us protect the fsa and allow them to clear isis out of their own country. hopefully we can hear that from this administration. it has been a few years but maybe we can catch something good soon. >> the chair recognizes the gentleman from rhode island is opening

isis broke away from al qaeda. isis has not just focused it's efforts on the battlefield. it's developed a propaganda machine which is spreading it's message to nearly every corner of the earth. isis producing pamphlets videos et cetera. with twitter and you tube, isis has a direct line across the world and in a grotesque display of disregard for human life, isis has used brutal beheadings of americans as a propaganda tool. young men and women from the middle east, north africa, europe and beyond have signed up to join the fight in syria. estimates now put the number of foreign fighters at over 16,000. three years ago, we were first alarmed by reports of fighters coming into syria from other countries in the region, mainly from saudi arabia and north africa. we should be particularly concerned about to the alarming number of fighters coming from north africa. the chaos that followed the revolutions in tunisia and libya have followed very different results. libya has been overruin by competing militias, it is on the verge of becoming a failed state. however, tunisia's young

because there's plenty of isis wannabes, potential isis leaders willing to step in and take their place. nevertheless, score one for the good guys. according to people here in the building. and it's really the first indication that the u.s. has had the ability to track and then take out some of the very important isis leadership, joy. >> big news. thanks very much, thank you. >>> all right. a range of options. that's what the white house press secretary josh earnest said the national security council is now considering for north korea. over the sony hacking. speaking in today's press briefing, ernest went on to say the hack is being treated as a serious national security matter. sony has canceled the planned christmas day release of "the interview." the james franco comedy that appears to have provoked what some experts are calling the costliest cyber attack ever. the hit to sony's bottom line is still to come. but the national -- but the reputational hit is already being felt. this afternoon, studio head amy pascal met with msnbc show host al sharpton to discuss the racially charged e-

it might detract from recruits to isis. but probably the isis is the case. this is the kind of global spectacle that's really the many ways of those who would take them around the world. certainly online there's been plenty of cheering on in sydney. this does tie into much of the messaging isis put out saying they were then visit vengeance back on the west and some of his allies as well. i should point out australia, they are not on the higher end of the list of the countries afflicted by this. it's interesting to see that australia was victim to this sort of thing. >> as all oir viewers know, you spent a lot of time there. a lot of time in iraq watching what's going on. how does isis i guess through social media, how do they encourage sympathizers to engage in an operation like the one that unfolded in sydney? >> well, i hate to say it, the lone wolf attack is an easy thing to inspire. they put out the message that those who wish to have affiliation with them should do this kind of attack. outside of that, we're different from the ways where a decade ago, y

and isis, you know, isis makes its propaganda video in english for a reason.want to draw these people. they have a certain magnetic appeal to them. and they play on all kinds of sentiments, perhaps religious, and they also identify individuals with all kinds of backgrounds and we have seen it in this country. some people want to leave their homes, the comfort of their homes, middle class people, who want to just get -- >> not just aimed at young men either too. aimed at young women. >> the notion also that it tries to feed off of poor individuals, that's not the case. we have seen people, again, with very moderate middle class backgrounds going to join the fight. and, again, we don't know who this individual is. but as you were saying right there in the australian timeline this is something on australia's radar for the past several months. they have been dealing with terrorism for a while. this particular issue has been on the radar since the summer. >> we see the shift in september there with australia raising their terror threat level from medium to high. an

the rise of isis has been truly unprecedented. isis broke away from al qaeda. it transformed into a well-funded group across iraq and syria. isis has not just focused it's efforts on the battlefield. it's developed a propaganda machine which is spreading its message to nearly every corner of the earth. isis produces videos, pamphlets, and has generated a disturbing amount of attention via social media. where terrorist organizations have long recruited locally in villages and towns, with twitter and you tube, isis has a direct line across the world, and in a grotesque display of disregard for human life, isis has used brutal beheadings of americans as a propaganda tool. weather entice by the idea of an toamic caliphate, claiming be agitated by the west, or simply looking for steady income, young men and women from the middle east, north africa, europe, and beyond have signed up to join the fight in syria. estimates now put the number of foreign fighters at over 16,000. three years ago, we were first alarmed by reports of fighters coming into syria from other cou

iran also wants to defeat isis but reports indicate that iranian fighter jets were targeting isis in iraq. what involvement does iran have in iraq, both on the air and on the ground? what is their involvement with the shia militias and how are they involved in the fight against against isil? it's happened once, we don't want it to happen again. >> thank you. there's no question that iran is playing a role in iraq. isil is a threat to iran and we have said that every country in the world has a role to play in defeating isil. the question for the iranians is whether they're going to do it in a constructive way or d n a destructive way. somewhat of what we're seeing right now in terms of iranian militias is not only problematic in terms of what we're seeing it's also problematic i know to the new government and also to ayatollah who has spoken out against any armed group operating outside the structures of the iraqi state. in the iraqi government made a commitment that was reaffirmed before 60 countries last month in brussels to assure that all armed groups are operating under the struc

when we talk about isis and the recent involvement in australia against isis, isis is sunni. so it seems as though this could be a one-off. this could be a classic lone wolf. >> that's right. it does look like it's a one-off. this individual acting it would appear more on his own and not as part of any radical islamist or extremist group. we only have to see the kind of amateurish moments in this extraordinarily long ordeal, for instance, the swapping of the flag or the seeking of the isis flag because he found out he had an al nusra flag by mistake. sheikh heron as he went by was apparently out on bail, as sara said, faces a dozen sexual assault charges, found guilty of hate letter he sent to families of at least eight australia soldiers killed in afghanistan. he is facing charges in connection with the murder of his ex-wife. he was in court only last friday, just three days ago, and he reportedly failed there to, in his last legal challenge, fu will, to lift any of those charges. he again reportedly became increasingly angry because he was not able to see his children. so w

jihad and isis mission.lieve that this is what the new threat is in terms of what isis is hoping in term temperaturth temperaturths of extending reach? >> absolutely. there's a huge question to ask how he ended up in this situation. yes, that is the future track of a man that commits an act of horror like this. security forces going forward, they need to work through precisely who these people are. this man seems to have a fluid plan that requires changes. that's the major threat from isis, holding up the flag saying those that support us, go out and show terrorism as you can. that's the major threat and the decade ahead i think. >> nick walsh, phillip mudd. thank you very much. the longer this goes, the more destabilized the situation goes. >> we'll keep an eye on it. thanks so much chris. we're following breaking developments in sydney. a gunman holding hostage as more than 14 hours. we'll tell you his commands and what we know of the hostage's conditions. wow! [ narrator ] on a mission to get richard to h

if this is indeed specifically isis or a lone wolf inspired by isis.entiment or even an ideology? >> if we want our values promoted around the world, values of liberty and open markets and freedom, we have to have strong economies for the long term. ultima ultimately, you've got to back your values are strong jobs and the economy. there's a strong debate at the moment. are these economies out of the financial crisis, what's their long-term prospect? are they facing long-term stagnation? britain, america and others can grow strongly if we go on making difficult decision, to deal with our debts, back enterprise, create jobs. then we can have the economic might to make sure our values are felt around the world. >> so it's one thing for the u.s. economy, british economy to come back. that's obviously key. what about spending your tax money, our tax money, in these countries, these countries around the world that do have where the terrorists are? that try to build economic development, a modern marshall plan, is that a good idea? >> you can't have a strong

haron and isis.ut is this a new model? where there doesn't need to be a direct connection between a person and isis itself where people only need to be inspired to commit terror? >> that's right, john. all the indications is this is a loan wolf attack. that he was inspired by isis. he wanted to do this to retaliate for u.s. and italian air strikes against isis in iraq and syria. in a recent posting he talks about the australians and the americans as terrorists so that appears to be the motivation here. it's a new model for isis. the isis spokesman back in september called for lon wolf attacks in the west in a fatwa. telling isis supporters that it was their religious obligation to launch these attacks. since then, we've seen a numberer be of plots. two fatal terrorist attacks in canada, then an attempted hatchet attack in new york as well. there have been plots in the europe and uk, john. so a new model of terrorism worrying law enforcement officials because it's so difficult to detect. >> let's dril

the individual acted alone with out association to isis or other terrorist groups. >> yet isis has called for acts of terrorism around the world, what is plate for isis in moments like this, where there is a tenuous connection between this act of violence and isis and its message. does isis claim solidarity with this. >> most likely they will. we have seen isis be very opportunistic in seizing any opportunity to take credit for acts of terror and violence throughout the world. they have called for lone wolf attacks and that clearly falls in that category. >> one of the reasons this story gained a lot of traction is because folks don't understand the radicalization happening in the pacific region and to speak specifically of that what's happening in australia. ly read an excerpt from the post. >> how significant is the home grown terror threat in australia at this point? >> extremely significant and australia sits on an interesting crossroads, although some what remote geographically, it is surrounded by countries with raging insurgencies, whether it be the philippines indonesia, so there

a major saudi concern, isis.udi arabia's arrest this week of 135 people for suspects terrorism included dozens, the saudis say, had links to isis and planned attacks. the u.s. is also working closely with the saudis over the border in yemen. but while the american effort is to take out al qaeda and stabilize the yemeni government, the saudis want help on another front. rebels are on the offense against the fragile yemeni government. rebels backed by the saudi's afternoon foe, iran. >> the hutis, for all intents and purposes, taken control of the capital. they are now perhaps the dominant force in yemen. >> reporter: what the u.s. risk iran'sing anner to target them so the saudis are not threatened? >> we understand the concerns that the saudis have about them. and the instability, the insecurity that -- that they see, again, on their southern border. i wouldn't speak again to specific targeting. >> reporter: this unrest could be an opportunity for al qaeda. >> they could expand its operations. because of this adv

aid worker peter kassig held by isis in syria when u.s. ally -- the talks collapsed and kassig was beheaded soon after. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. indonesian rescuers have found dozens of bodies and debris from a passenger plane that was carrying 162 people when it disappeared on the way to singapore sunday. the remains were found in the karimata strait off the coast of borneo. airasia flight 8501 had requested permission to climb to a higher altitude amidst bad weather, but the response was delayed due to heavy air traffic, and the plane disappeared. leftists in greece appear poised for a historic victory after lawmakers rejected the prime minister's nominee for president, setting the stage for early elections next month. the failed vote triggers the dissolution of parliament and comes amidst mounting outrage over austerity policies which have come as part of greece's international bailout. the left wing syriza party is leading in polls, paving the wa

if he was a follower of isis, why didn't he have an isis flag. the isis m.o. i think is to kill as many people as possible as quickly as possible. that didn't happen here. there was a hostage drama and also we know that there was some personal issues affecting this person, including the fact that he was in court on friday concerning his prosecution for sending these nasty letters to the families of stranls who -- australians who died in afghanistan. >> on that note, fred, australians knew who this guy was, he was in court on friday, they could have very easily had him under surveillance. he got a sawed-off shotgun and was able to carry out this attack. fast forward to the united states, we know 150 americans are fighting inside syria for isis. 150 here in the united states are under surveillance. that's who we know about. it seems as though that's a lot more people to keep track of and all that you have to have is one of them, like this guy, who decides to go out and kill people on a given morning. >> well, we don't know what list this guy was on. was he on th

when isis come, they start in the north of mosul, and other yazidi villages. they destroy a lot of yazidi temples. so all of those people, now more than 400,000 yazidis. 90% of the yazidis, the situation is now--you cannot describe it in short sentences. we are in the 21st century still th given as a gift, the woman, she is $100 for the islamic fighter, and more than 2,500 women and children now they are in the west, one of the peshmerga, army and isis. there are 600,000 in iraq, and more than 3,000 people are being kidnapped, it mean that more than a thousand of families are in tragedy of situations. >> thank you for joining us. yazidi journalist currently wi joining us from iraq. now our guests: >> and andrew, let me start with you. is there something different about the objectives, the aims of the islamic state that makes the assignment more than just capturing and holding land? why spend so much time trying to wipe out a small and not very numerous, not very influence group of people who don't share your religion? >> thanks for having me, and your first gu

we're bombing isis. that's good. i wish we had started that back in january when there was only a few thousand of them. today we are playing a lot of catch-up. i recently got back from iraq a month and a half, two months ago. when i left if '09 as a pilot in the military the war was won. when i went back just a few months ago it was very devastating to see. i hope we begin to hear from this administration a strategy for syria. i echo what a lot of people have said. 200,000 dead syrians today, many of which are women and children, by the evil dictatorship of bashar al assad, which is no protector of christianity. he is an evil, bad person and the incubator of isis. the reason this rebellion exists, the reason people would even be attracted is they see isis, some people see them as the best alternative to assad. so i think it is important for us to plus-up the fsa and protect them as we allow them to clear their own country out of isis. so hopefully we'll begin to hear that from to the administration, it's been a few y

and we are doing battle with isis. the united states has been in middle east with boots on the ground for a long time. ambassador, would you say that the united states is at war with isis or not? >> congressman, having seen it up close, i would say we are at war with isis, yes. >> it seems to me that our strategy is twofold at this point or maybe threefold. send aid to different groups, countries. there are 60-something nations i understand are in the coalition to fight isis. one is to do air strikes as the chairman has mentioned the success of those air strikes depends on who you're talking to. i do not believe they have been quite as successful as we had hoped they would be. the other is to take syrian moderate rebels, vet, train and equip them to go back to syria and defeat isis. how many of those people have been vetted, trained and equipped and sent back to syria to fight isis? >> congressman again, it's a d.o.d. program -- >> it's not. you're the ambassador. you represent the state department, you're not the stat

airstrikes against isis last week. they played a role in stopping isis from going to baghdad. good or bad? >> it is interesting. in iraq, we would perceive we have some alligned interest. they certainly are opposing isis inside iraq. on the other hand, they have concerns about us having greater alignments with the sunni population. in syria, they are working against us. they support hezbollah. hezbollah has been helping the regime. the regime is killing the moderate opposition. and we are having training sites throughout the region to train more moderate syrian rebels to help us. at the same time through hezbollah, iran is killing them. >> leads to the question of nuclear talks with iran. you have talked in the past posing sanctions. the talks have been extended for another several months. >> you know, we had a great hearing yesterday. we had private witnesses. i'm getting ready to leave in a few to a briefing where we are going to have a classified input. we had some private witnesses. i think everyone with the iran issue that i know of and highly involved, i think people are

our top stories this hour on the frontline against isis. >> isis literally shooting at this position. receiving return fire as well. >> cnn follows a 22-year-old female fire into the war zone against one of the most brutal terror groups. it's our closest look to date at the battle for kobani. plus this --. >> we want you to rally, but rally in peace. make a statement, but make it in peace. >> a grand jury decides not to indict an officer involved in. so far, protesters are listening but they've gathered by the thousands as the u.s. government launches its own investigation. and thanks for joining us, everyone. we look at a battle against isis. kobani, the center in the battle, a key target for isis as it fights to expand its territory for the turkish border. i have to worn you, you may find some of these images disturb pg. >> from inside co-been any, the day's ferocity gets no respite at night. a prize so small but so valued that violence seems to swallow it hole, grinding its streets down to the bone. we're heading to the frontline where nightly, daily, isis hope to advance with a ku

, an isis strock hold.e is the nephew of a retired jordanian general. his capture, a frightening reminder that even after more than 1300 air strikes without incident over iraq and syria, troops very much at risk over the combat zone. rescuing the pilot may be tough even for jordan's highly regarded counterterrorism forces. it's a propaganda coup for the terrorist group. these are very motivated people who believe they are holy warriors and that this is their destiny to create an islamic state in the heart of the arab world and they'll fight to the death to protect that. isis claims their heat-seeking missiles brought down the jet, publishing these images on social media to make their case, but a senior u.s. defense official tells cnn for now there are no indications the plane was shot down. coalition and jordanian authorities continue investigating what might have happened. >> isis claimed that it was shot down by a heat-seeking missile which fits the pattern with what they have, but if the pilots are opera

want to help with isis. when we attack from the air or other sources, does that benefit assad? does.some degree it it diverts attention. assad has been able to get away with dropping deadly bombs on aleppo. they get away with his own aggression. in some ways it has helped him militarily. if it was just a war, the world would be a much more -- pay more attention. >> what are the options for this administration as it looks at syria, looks at iraq, and tries to ascertain how to fight isis? and be true to its commitment to regime change in syria? how do they balance that? fight two wars at the same time? >> i think that is exactly what they are trying to do. iraq.d largely on territory withn help from u.s. air power. after that is achieved, once isis is forced back into syria, held the rebels become strong enough so they could put pressure on isis and the assad regime. possible to make headway. i find it difficult to see any viable solution anytime soon. even if the rebels were to win cash to win, the danger is

we don't know if he is operating with isis. we haven't heard from isis. that is interesting from an organization that is so tech savvy on social media. they have yet to claim him as one of their own. but certainly as you say, he might be inspired or a sympathize er or could be deranged. clearly he walked in with a sign in arabic and now he is calling for somebody to bring him an isis flag. certainly bizarre demands to be making. nonetheless, that is what he is doing. the siege is now entered its tenth hour. as far as the police are concerned, they are prepared to go right into the night as long as this is resolved peacefully. >> anna coren in sydney. we will let you get back to the scene to continue your reporting. obviously ten hours now this is going on. reporters are trying to get information they can in the story. notably the name of the gunman still yet to be identified. the offices of 7 news were evacuated when the crisis began. they are right down the street from the cafe. one reporter has been allowed to return to the newsroom. listen to him speak

strategy to combat isis. it has now been three months since president obama took to national tv and said. this. >> we have ramped up our military assistance to the syrian opposition. tonight i call on congress again to give us additional authorities and resources to train and equip these fires. >> so, has that all happened yet or any of it? fox news national security correspondent jennifer griffin joins us from the pentagon. jennifer, i hear you chuckle at my question. >> the fact of the matter is, no. that has been the most striking thing about the testimony that we have been listening to the administration's point person on iraq and iran. he was asked point blank by republican ted poe of texas whether the vetting had begun. his answer no. in fact, he revealed that the administration is still in discussions with turkey about using its bases to train some of the 5,000 members of the moderate so-called moderate syrian opposition which are the key to the president's strategy. it's been three months as you menti

in another new video isis shows what it claims are iraqi soldiers running away from isis forces. a narrater says in english, the iraqis are fleeing like the cowards they are and still photos published by an isis twitter account showing what it claims are isis militants on a rooftop in a self-proclaimed isis province. isis claims they are throwing a gay man off the roof and stoning him. they say it is part of the group's battle plan. >> they don't turn out videos like this that have a kick to them people will start to say maybe they are on their heels, not as tough as they said they would be. >> for isis and the u.s.-led allies kobani is the center of it all. kobani is the most important battlefield of the war tactically and symbolically. if the allies win it is a set back for isis, a huge turning point. if isis wins it shows the u.s. can't help its allies. the coalition isn't as powerful as it seems and isis gets control of a huge stretch of syria's border with turkey. so right now both sides are all in kobani. brian todd, cnn, washington. >>> this point i want to get you back li

and we are doing battle with isis. the united states has been in middle east with boots on the ground for a long time. ambassador, would you say that the united states is at war with isis or not? >> congressman, having seen it up close, i would say we are at war with isis, yes. >> it seems to me that our strategy is twofold at this point or maybe threefold. send aid to different groups, countries. there are 60-something nations i understand are in the coalition to fight isis. one is to do air strikes as the chairman has mentioned the success of those air strikes depends on who you're talking to. i do not believe they have been quite as successful as we had hoped they would be. the other is to take syrian moderate rebels, vet, train and equip them to go back to syria and defeat isis. how many of those people have been vetted, trained and equipped and sent back to syria to fight isis? >> congressman again, it's a d.o.d. program -- >> it's not. you're the ambassador. you represent the state department, you're not the stat

needs about where the isis leader is hiding?now rising on isis' reclusive leader abu bakr al baghdadi. this woman is believed to be baghdadi's wife or ex-wife. she and her child arrested by lebanese authorities when they tried to enter the country from syria. secretary of state john kerry ruling out any swap for hostages held by isis. >> we don't negotiate and i think people know that. >> reporter: inside syria, near raqqa, electronic warfare garrison in raqqa, a building to detect and potentially target u.s. and coalition aircraft. near aleppo, the u.s. struck yet again al qaeda operatives known as the khorasan group. in iraq, iran flying phantom jets in eastern iraq. the u.s. military watching closely and a u.s. official tells cnn so far the iranians are not flying near coalition jets. the next major move by iraq, u.s. officials tell cnn that iraqi units plan to start moving north to mosul hoping to push out isis which seized the city in june. >> we all know when we said that mosul and the iraqi security forces working in conc

this jet is irani hitting isis targets. iran claim nod change in its policy against isis.irms, quote, we believe that iranian military aircraft conducted air strikes in eastern iraq in the last several days. iraqi is acting as air traffic controllers for iraq's increasably busy air space. john kerry said, however, there is no military coordination between the u.s. and iran. >> if iran is take on isil in some particular place, it's going to be a net effect is positive. but that's not something that we're coordinating. >> today, syria's president insisted the u.s. will have led campaign has not weakened isis. though he didn't mention his view of his ally iran's air strikes. syria is, quote, running the ground battles annes isis and we have noticed no change assad told a french magazine. secretary of state kerry gave a very different view. >> the moment, which had exhibited 2 1/2 months ago has been halted. their hold on territory has been challenged already, and their finances have been strained. >> a big focus for the u.s. will be whether to extend the deadline past the end

isis being one of them. but he's clearly a person who seems to be on the edge of society he's got sexual assault charges, accessory to murder. i don't think he's part of any mainstream muslim group in australia. i think he's a guy that's been on the edge of society and is almost self-radicalized to some degree but clearly someone a who is a failure in mainstream society. >> so he had two people hold up a flag that said "there is no god but allah and mohammed is his messenger." he wants to talk to australia's prime minister, he wants an isis flag. is this the kind of person isis wants? >> several little points than question there. the flag? a very mainstream muslim flag. so every muslim probably uses that as their main muslim prayer so that's kind of common. but this isis, i don't think he was strongly affiliated with isis but he might have been inspired by what isis has been saying over the last few months. >> inspired. but that's clearly what isis wants. it doesn't care, right? >> i don't think they care wh

whether he was inspired by this group isis or directed by isis. this year isis directed its followers in australia not to travel to rawrk and syria but to stay in place and launch a public execution as a way to terrify use trailans. that led d terrify austrailians. that led to a roundup in october. martha: this is the kind of act they called on people to do. what about our role. what is the united states able to do if anything to in this situation? >> reporter: what we have seen from my experience this morning is it kicked up a notch in washington, d.c. we have had confirmation from the white house he's been briefed by his most senior counter terrorism advisor, also the homeland security secretary has been briefed and is monitoring the situation and the fbi is offering assistance. the national counterterrorism center, ntct that was established after 9/11 to monitor and assess threats to the u.s. domestically and overseas, they are also drilling down on the social media traffic to see if there is any clues there as to the plot and how many people a

can they govern isis or handle isis. at the heart of it, isis is an iraq economical and on the resentment toward the domination it is a kind bomber at fixed with this kind of weird jihad as entirely independent, it is a tribal iraq he/serious issue and ad hoc. we understand they are here. the rebels are not his type. they are not jihad is an orientation and we can contain this problem. if you build the counterforce and not just the turks. it's for the both administrations that have the fact of the administration, but you have to build a third force in serious. but now it's become much more complicated. it was incredibly naÏve. what is the policy in the region the u.s. policy in the region is at this point it is very clear that we had opportunities early on to divide a strategy that can help bring down the regime and perhaps temper some of the nasty fighting that we have seen in serious and we could have certainly prevented it from spreading over into iraq the way that it has. it's in the decision not to enforce the red l

isis promised to make it a model of the islamic state.ctivists inside say it is anything but. >> isis publishing the figures of propaganda to make it a paradise. it is a paradise for isis but hell for the people. >> if the residents survive the day at night they live in fire of coalition air strikes. isis does not seem to be losing its grip on this city. leaving residents to live through the terrifying cycle again and again. cnn, london. >> deadly landslide in indonesia wipes out an entire village. more than 100 homes just washed away and now they continue to try to find any survivors. that's next. >>> also ahead, the huge dubai mall. stepping up the search for the perfect pump. it is the world's biggest shoe store. we'll give you a tour. >>> heavy rain caused a treacherous landslide on friday. it killed 17 people and destroyed an entire remote village. look at what's left of that hill. rescuers now working to find four of the missing people trekking through. as you can see all of the mud and debris. the landslide buried or swept away doz

air strikes make gains against isis. and in our signature segment, a georgia town's struggle to decide whether to allow a mosque to be built in the face of brutal isis attacks overseas. next on pbs newshour weekend. >> pbs newshour weekend is made possible by: corporate funding is provided by mutual of america-- designing customized individual and group retirement products. that's why we are your retirement company. additional support is provided by: and by the corporation for public broadcasting and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. from the tisch wnet studios in lincoln center in new york, hari sreenivasan. >> sreenivasan: good evening. thanks for joining us. north korea today called the obama administration's claims that it was behind the cyber attack on sony "slander" and threatened to retaliate unless the united states agrees to conduct a joint investigation about the matter. its comments were included in a statement read on state- controlled television. american officials say th

they will take out an isis target. they'll take out an isis formation. they'll kill isis fighters. the problem here is essentially the same problem in fighting extremism in this part of the world. if isis can recruit now fighters to the cause, you're never going to kill your way out of this situation. you can't kill everybody. this perhaps is the great lesson of years of operating in iraq and afghanistan. so it's an ideological fight that is not solved by bombs. and from the beginning, i will tell you, the pentagon has made that point. don't expect military action to solve the problem with isis. they are very clear that they can only have a limited effect. it's a great lesson that the military has learned over the years. >> bob, to that point that barbara is making here, obviously you have to have the diplomatic, you have to have the ideological tactic and strategy, if you will. but do you see in terms of the military that ultimately you might have to see u.s. boots on the ground? >> i think first of all, i'd like to say barbara is absolutely right. you need a diplomatic political