you knew what isis stood for. isis slaughter civilians.lim... by coming to syria and joining isis... i was not part of isis. i'm asking you very simply, sort of woman to woman, do you think it's ok to slaughter civilians? but that's what isis stand for it. so you condemn isis. you are isis women and you want to come back to europe, lots of you, right? so we have the right to ask you these questions. do you support isis? i support islam. do you support isis? just please answer the question. what does that mean? it's hard to know where the truth lies when the women here are so careful with what they say. condemn is, and they could be killed. but supporting is could jeopardise their chances of ever getting their children back home. a few days later, a video is release online that supposedly shows the is flag flying over the camp. after fighting islamic state for five long and bloody years, the kurdish authorities are now having to manage prisons and camps full of radical is supporters, with little help from the outside world. the kurdish mini

count isis killed 800 people there in the last year. norah. >> david martin from the pentagon, thank you. the massive search for two fisherman lost at fee. brian mcclunney and justin walker were last seen friday when they headed out for a day-long fishing trip. >> reporter: hundreds of volunteers gathered early this morning to continue the ocean search for the two missing firefighters. >> today we are pushing 80 boats now. over 200 people out there actively searching. that does not include the ten volunteer aircraft we have out there as well. >> jacksonville firefighters search near the shore. the u.s. coast guard is off short. brian mcclunney and justin walker went out fishing last friday morning and haven't been seen since. walker's wife, natasha, took to the air to help with the search. >> i need to be up there and feel like i am searching too. >> crews covered more than 50,000 square miles searching for the men, their boat or debris as far north as charleston, south carolina. yesterday search crews found a tackle bag about 50 miles

>> no, this is -- you know, isis 3.0, 4.0, depends on how you keep track.e all saw that isis was not defeated back earlier this year despite the claims. thousands of isis members didn't just fade away. they went across the river to iraq. some of them went into the countryside in syria. but they're still there. what is surprising in this report and to people on the ground is how quickly they've come back in tearus places, particularly in parts of eastern syria and northern and western iraq and how organized and systemic they are. they're not just doing random attacks, going after leaders in local towns and provinces. the iraqs come in, they try to clear them out and they're back again that evening. so it's that situation. it's pretty dangerous. >> back in 2015, this was the height of their power, the caliphate was big. in red, you can see these large swaths of land in syria and iraq. is it possible isis could regain that territory? >> it's possibly, but probably not likely. and the thing is, it's not that important to isis, this idea of ownering or controlli

>> just because we saw the isis caliphate destroyed doesn't mean we saw the end of isis.rts showing suicide bombs, targeted killing, raids taking place in locations supposedly liberated from isis. the iraqis and the syrian defense forces have no capacity to hold this terrain they liberated. the other thing is we have prisoners out there that will be released and go back to exactly what they know. it's a danger and we haven't seen the last of isis. liz: next up we'll talk to the texas attorney general about the plans to hold migrant families together longer in detention. shocking new numbers on the rights in drug use in the u.s. president trump: i'm the one who kept the families together. what we are doing now will do even more of that. but it will make it impossible for people to come into our country illegally. usaa took care of her car rental, and getting her car towed. all i had to take care of was making sure that my daughter was ok. if i met another veteran, and they were with another insurance company, i would tell them, you need to join usaa because they have bette

the territory that isis once controlled across iraq and syria, now very largely no longer under isis'shave 15,000 fighters, when you have 70,000 displaced persons in camps, this becomes very fertile recruiting ground for isis to regroup. what the generals have been saying for the last several months is you are going to have gore ril la attacks, suicide bombers and isis migrating into north africa where it's been operating for some time and in recent years up in afghanistan. so this is going to be the challenge that the u.s. faces. can isis stage a 9/11 type attack on u.s. soil? hopefully not. but they can destabilize an awful lot of territory. >> and john, you heard what mike pom said that in some places they're stronger and then you have an estimated 15,000 fighters in iraq and syria. what does it mean to you? >> it means that isis remains a viable terrorist network. we were always also a network and we're seeing that that network is still viable and still able to metastasize it's ideology and resources well beyond and into north africa. but the report if you look at it offers some ve

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iraq war's yeah it was sort of safe but since then isis was beaten in syria and isis fighters and their families were taken to camps in the area of syria and in iraq since then really just about daily and sometimes more more than one times a day we have attacks by people who are affiliated to isis who have sympathy for isis we don't know if there are sleeper cells. and the army these days is actually working on a on a big. campaign in 2 areas trying to get rid of these people and one of the reasons why this report is getting so much attention is because turkey is saying that it wants to finally install this safe zone across the border now that border is already guarded by a big wall why exactly want to have this zone as well is not quite clear but what is clear that if this happens that the syrian ports will have to take over their ministry to that place to that area because it's quite a big area and they will no longer be able to guards isis in the camps and already we've had people escaping from there have been smugglers taking people out but then it will be very easy for all these is

accounts, isis has killed some 800 people there in the past year. norah?> o'donnell: david martin from the pentagon, thank you. the massive search for two fishermen lost at sea ramped up today. firefighters brian mcclunney and justin walker were last seen friday when they headed out for a day-long fishing trip. mireya villarreal is in jacksonville with the latest on the search. >> reporter: hundreds of volunteers started gathering early this morning to continue the ocean search for the two missing firefighters. >> today we're pushing 80 boats now with over 200 people that are out actively searching. that does not include the ten aircraft that we have out here, the volunteer aircraft that we have out there, as well. >> reporter: now in day four, jacksonville firefighters searched near the shore. the u.s. coast guard is off shore. justin walker and brian mcclunney went out fishing from port canaveral last friday morning and they haven't been seen since. walker's wife natasha took to the air to help with the search. >> i need to be up there, feel like i'm sea

people who are not syrian or iraqi that came and joined isis.mp is women and children. the vast majority of the camp are children under 12 years old. you've got the visuals, the isis women who have come and joined that are really abusing the rest of the population of the camp including about 30,000 syrian that's are internally displace that had happen to be under isis control as the liberation of that area has been. so it is a humanitarian crisis and a national crisis at the same time. >> i spoke to leon panetta and asked him about this. here's what he said. >> if we simply withdraw our forces and pretend that isis and the remnants of indicatal qaeda threat, it is an open invitation to terrorists to establish the kind of base from which they can conduct attacks against the united states. we cannot let that happen again. >> so it's a real threat to the united states. what's going on there? it means it is a real threat to the syrian people. what is your greatest fear, what's playing out there at the moment? >> absolutely. first of all, my greatest

we have wiped out isis in iraq. we have wiped out isis -- >> wiped oud isis. the caliphate maybe.not. according to in new report -- and it's a lengthy report, the pentagon independent watched isis has estimated 15,000 fighters in iraq and syria now. a resurgents. including targeted assassinen nations and suicide bombs. like this attack in kabul, afghanistan. a suicide bomber killing 63, injuring 200 more. outfront now is former undersecretary leon panetta. >> good to be with you kait. >> thank you so much. estimated 15,000 isis fierts in iraq and syria now. secretary pompeo saying in some ways stronger than it was three or four years ago. how big of a concern should the news be for americans? >> it should be a very serious concern for the president of the united states and for our country. because his first responsibility is to protect our yes. and we learned from 9/11 the fact that these terrorists have one fundamental aim, which is to attack the united states and attack countries in the west. and now what we are hearing is that isis is clearly remobilizing to the tune of almost

it's prime isis recruiting ground. president trump finding it tough to meet the promise to bring troops home. james mattis suddenly resigned as secretary of defense when trump wanted a full withdrawal from syria. in iraq, 5200 troops are still a backstop for iraqi security forces. in syria, there are just about 1,000 troops still conducting counterterrorism missions and supporting local syrian fighters. and at least some 14,000 troops in afghanistan may not be home by the 2020 election, as the president hoped given the terror threat. >> we are bringing some of our troops back. but we have to have a presence. >> now, president trump also recently said a number of al qaeda and isis leaders have been killed in combat missions in recent weeks, but so far, he's not saying who. brianna. >> barbara starr at the pentagon, thank you. >>> joining me now is congressman ted deutch, he's a democrat who serves on the foreign affairs committee and the judiciary committee. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me, brianna. >>

: fighters in syria taking the oath of allegiance to isis. and vowing to fight on. nearly six months after the fall of the last pockets of territory that made up their so-called caliphate. it is a propaganda video. but it represents a reality acknowledged by secretary of state pompeo to "cbs this morning." >> what we said is the caliphate is begun and there is always risk there will be a resurgence. >> reporter: a recent report said isis had solidified its insurgent capabilities in iraq and was resurging in syria. the report cited estimates that isisti has between 14 and 18,000 members in iraq and syria, and the opportunity to recruit more from among tens of thousands of refugees living in poorly guarded camps. the u.s. has 5200 troops in iraq, and nearly 1,000 in syria, where the top commander for the middle east, general frank mckenzie, recently told cbs news, u.s. special forces are helping local tribes track down isis fighters. >> they try to get in the desert up here, empty quarter desert of southeastern syria and our partners go out and

. >>> and isis heats up. secretary of state pompeo admits the terror group is stronger in some places now than it was years ago and the pentagon reveals an isis resurgence months after the president proclaimed a 100% defeat of the isis caliphate. wolf blitzer is off. i'm brianna keilar and you're in "the situation room." >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. >>> breaking news. as concerns grow about an economic downturn, president trump confirms he's considering a payroll tax cut and is again slamming the fed saying it should cut interest rates. but with the top financial firm saying that his tariffs could cost american families $1,000 a year, the president insists he's not ready to make a deal with china saying he would stick to his trade war even if the u.s. falls into a recession. >>> also tonight, secretary of state mike pompeo concedes isis is stronger in some play places than four years ago following a pentagon report that isis is resurging in iraq and syria just months after the president declared t

the question is, how does isis benefit from that? isis called isk by many in afghanistan, they're predominantly in the east where they have a lot of pakistani members and essentially have become the extremist rump of the long-lived innerinsurgency in taliban. the taliban are there, those who get disgruntled might move toward fresher branding of isis. isis arkanscharacterizing its w massive attacks like the one in kabul over the weekend. as people look at the withdrawal deal that may be announced in the weeks ahead, it's what it leaves in terms of space for isis. the people are most concerned about. remember donald trump himself said he didn't want afghanistan to become a laboratory for terror. is that going to be the case in isis gets a better foothold there? back to you. >> really complicating that piece in afghanistan. live for us in london, thank you. >>> former vatican treasurer george pell will remain in prison after an australian court rejected an appeal of his conviction for sexually assaulting two 13-year-old choir boys in th

isis are behind that wedding blast. they're getting more presence because of the country's chaos, frankly. the taliban are being fought and say we need to be united against isis. al dade a coup al qaeda put themselves into the ranks of the taliban. a big dilemma. do you continue to fight the war, continue to have peace talks, continue to see the blood sche shed mount or do you strike a deal? >> big dilemma, indeed. very complicated situation. nick peyton walsh. thanks so much. >> no easy answers there. >>> ahead, they braved the rain and threats from the chinese government. is there measurable progress for the pro democracy protesters in hong kong? cnn is live there next. here you go little guy. a cockroach can survive submerged underwater for 30 minutes. wow. yeah, wow. not getting in today. not on my watch. pests never stop trying to get in. we never stop working to keep them out. terminix. defenders of home. mno kidding.rd. but moving your internet and tv? that's easy. easy?! easy? easy. because now xfinity lets you

-led campaign to move isis from its so-called caliphate territory.these warnings is no surprise at all because even as isis began to lose its territory it was clear as sort of residual fighters were pushed out into the desert that they were beginning to plot attacks, again, those seem to have picked up in rhythm and there is still an enormous problem of isis supporters and isis fighters, tens of thousands of supporters held in one enormous refugee camp and thousands of fighters held in various pop up or permanent prisons there. the foreigners not necessarily being taken home by their home lands and those in iraq and syria some say in iraq meeting a pretty stark end at the end of iraqi courts. the more enduring issue here is that when donald trump took over the pretty well thought out obama white house's campaign to defeat isis he didn't seem that interested in what many people who sort of fight insurgencies for a living say is the most important part and that was the economic and diplomatic back end of it. militaries know they can kill their way out

by them both isis and us of. the 1st of a 2 part epic tale of a remarkable son and. the father the son and the jihad. one on al-jazeera. fighting to ungar and. pakistan against india's decision to revoke kashmir special autonomous status while india is also rejecting criticism from china which says it shouldn't even laterally change the status quo. alone down jordan this is live from doha also coming up venezuela accuses the u.s. of economic terrorism following new sanctions aimed at president the duo's government. and thousands protest in turkey warning that a foreign owned gold mine project will cause widespread environmental contamination . pakistan says it will put maximum pressure on india of its decision to strip indian administered kashmir of its autonomy the prime minister imran khan called for international intervention following india's move to change the status quo of the disputed region of some of the nge of a begins our coverage from the suffer about in pakistan administered kashmir. our fight will continue that's the message from these protesters in lau

i'm isis where isis or whatever. it's true it's through the spreading of fear it's. just driving it home every day every day i says could come back they could come back tomorrow the good come back next week oh yeah well you know they came out of nowhere but can't seem to get rid of them but we did get rid of them but we didn't get rid of them but they don't really organize but they're kind of organized but they're everywhere else so john the news editor of antiwar dot com commented on this sort of person new persistent claims that isis is resurging what he said that the claim is based on a single pentagon report which implied only that this might. be the case the pentagon clearly wants this to be true because they're using it to spin a u.s. military withdrawal from syria as dangerous as it comes out to we can't cut budgets in our police departments gangs are coming in and we can't cut budgets in the pentagon this is still here. you know there's truth to what he's saying because when you see all of these reports glenn

how much strength is isis regaining? just coming back from the syrian/jordanian border, and after talking to syrian and u.s. officials in the region within the last few weeks that they're expressing very serious concern that isis has regenerated both east and west of the euphrates river valley, and al-qaeda remains in pretty serious numbers in syria at the moment. so these groups are not dead. they don't control much territory at this point, but they still have reasonable numbers of fighters, 14-18,000 according to the most recent pentagon inspector general report. the u.n. numbers are a little higher at 30,000 isis fighters, but those still are pretty significant. paul: what do you make of secretary pompeo's argument that because the caliphate is gone -- that is the territory that they control -- that, therefore, their ability to project terror is much diminished? is that accurate? >> well, i think the problem is terrorism is not linear. i mean, at this point we see limited efforts by the islamic state to confront -- co

so for that moment iraq war yeah it was sort of safe but since then isis was beaten in syria. isis fighters and their families were taken to camps in this area of syria and in iraq since then really just about daily and sometimes more more than one times a day we have attacks by people who are affiliated to isis who have sympathy for i says we don't know it except there are sleeper cells. and the army these days is actually working on a on a big campaign in 2 areas trying to get rid of these people and so do you think moving is actually achievable is it actually possible to remove all i saw fighters because it's an ideology isn't it and is that not where the strategy needs to be focused on on combating the ideology. yes this is the main problem meaning on the one hand you have all these people in the camps in syria amongst them 10000 . fighters they are there. it's together in one camp or in 2 camps and they are radicalizing themselves even further their life happened in the prisons that the americans had for al-qaeda members in iraq the same process is going on and then on th

. -- combating isis. president trump: the economy is doing very, very well. we'll see what happens with the federal reserve. whether or not they finally get smart and reduce interest rates like many other places around the world that we have to compete with. our economy is the strongest in the world by far. nothing even close. a lot of good things are happening. we had some very good retail numbers this morning as you saw. i guess the stock market is quite a bit up. i don't demand it but if he used his head, they would lower it. we compete, we are much stronger than germany but we compete with them. in germany they have zero interest rates. when they borrow money, look at what happens. look at what is going on over there. they actually get paid to borrow money and we have to compete with that. he raised interest rates too fast, too furious and we have a normalized rate, if you can call it that and now we have to go the other direction. we'll see if he does this. if he does it, you'll see a rocket ship. if

is isis right now. so there's isis. and that's what we have right now. as of last night. our eileen organized u.s. president based on a new inspector general report for congress on operation inherent resolve the new york times reporting that 5 months after american backed forces oust of the islamic state from its last shard of territory in syria the terrorist group is gathering new strength conducting guerrilla attacks across iraq and syria retooling its financial networks and targeting new recruits at an allied run tent camp on tuesday this week mike pump ayos confronted by reporters about the supposed newly undead ice system the u.s. secretary of state declared there was certainly places where isis is more powerful today than they were 3 or 4 years ago but the calculate is gone and their capacity to conduct external attacks is with made it much more difficult. well now i'm sorry i'm a little bit confused so so is i says back in gathering strength and getting more powerful the never or is there a caliphate gone and their ability to operate severely hamper a lot of confli

the issue of isis is., these accounts of isis some sort of resurgence no matter how nascent or controlled, it alarming when you think about the taliban in afghanistan, and isis in the relationship between those two, i see almost no mention of that relationship between isis. and the taliban. it is critical to the president's plans. to rationalize our military presence around the world. >> it is true, this is a problem, how to deal with the jihadists movement in the world on the long-term. but to be realistic, isis real estate and syria and iraq is gone. demonstration has done a formidable job in making sure that caliphate is gone. these are sca spasms. concern that i have is not isis in syria, that what we're doing nerp its oterms of cutting a a l with the taliban in qatar, that a question, i do not trust the taliban,. jim: that relationship between the taliban and isis. >> i think that taliban are cutting deal with al qaeda and isis, saying let me deal with the morning first, get them out -- with the ameri

isis is gone. >> right. important thing to node about this inspector general report coming out from the pentagon is that it harps on and makes obvious what generals from the u.s. have been saying for months here, that isis is actually continuing to grow and continuing to build off of what it also had as its foundation in both iraq and syria. even though the caliphate has been destroyed, we know that, president trump has said that time and time again over the past few months. they are continue to go carry out attacks in the region. and so secretary pompeo said that there's less of a capable for them to carry out external attacks now, but we've heard from state department officials and pentagon officials that they are continuing to carry out attacks in the region and increase their presence in places. >> and we've seen in the past if people have a different tone with the president, the president gets upset with them. we haven't seen that with mike pompeo. when he does that, isis, it's complicated and in some p

backed forces are struggling to contain isis. >> reporter: this march, the white house declared all isis territory recaptured but a report says the terrorist group could be coming back if syria and returning to its insurgent roots in iraq. there are 45,000 isis supporters and family members with minimal security watching over them according to the report. it says the iraqi military lacked the hold forces in areaes are captured from isis and u.s. backed fighters this syria quote lacked personnel. 10,000 isis fighters remain detained this syria, many countries are reluctant to take the foreign fighters back. mike pompeo said he has not read the report but the president is not letting his guard down. >> this administration is mindful of the success we had. >> reporter: b1 bombers -- dropping thousands of bombs on isis. the u.s. has only on ducted one strike since april if syria against isis. a different story in iraq, hundreds of air strikes have taken place over that time. britain's new top diplomat warned it's a recurring threat. >> the one thing we learned is terroristel from al-qaeda, y

it promised the turks that once it had destroyed isis it would get rid of the it would take back the heavy weapons and it would leave the region now that has infuriated the turks because both of these promises to help the sunni arabs come to power and then to leave syria after isis destroyed have not been fulfilled and the united states has switched his policy to an anti iran policy and staying in syria for the long duration now from an american point of view. they want to stay in syria because they believe they have to roll back iran there to continue fighting isis is the war on terror and that turkey is upsetting the apple cart america is convinced that they can have it both ways they can have a turkish ally and they can continue to support the white b.g. because they believe the white b.g. is not a terrorist organization they can successfully build a firewall between the white and the pe k k ok sharks aren't by nest and we're at loggerheads. just was basically saying that it is specter or there's a deal or not about the buffer zone we're talking about now and never going to kill l

isis has claimed responsibility for the attack. dreaming is a republican senator from south carolina, lindsey graham. senate judiciary committee also sits on senate appropriation, foreign relations and budget committees. it is always great to see you thank you for joining us, mr. chairman. >> thank you. maria: assess the situation for us in terms of afghanistan. what you would like to see the president move to do next. >> okay, well i support the idea of trying to get a peace deal with the taliban. but here are the conditions. we can have any deal that denies the american military the right to stay in afghanistan to protect us against isis and al qaeda. my get them at the table email never get al qaeda and isis at the peace table the they are radicals that want to kill people like us. they say if you leave them alone they will leave you alone but the taliban was brutal to women, they invited al qaeda into afghanistan as their honored guest and we got 9/11. there is no circumstance i can envision leaving afghanistan without a counte

moment iraq was yeah it was sort of safe but since then isis was beaten in syria and isis fighters and their families were taken to camps in the area of syria and in iraq since then really just about daily and sometimes morse more than one times a day we have attacks by people who are affiliated to isis who have sympathy for isis we don't know it except there are sleeper cells. and the army these days is actually working on a on a big. campaign in 2 areas trying to get rid of these people one of the reasons why this report is getting so much attention is because turkey is saying that it wants to finally install this safe zone across the border now that border is already guarded by a big war why exactly want to have this zone as well is not quite clear but what is clear that if this happens that the syrian ports will have to take over their ministry to that place to that area because it's quite a big area and they will no longer be able to guards isis in the camps and already we've had people escaping from there have been smugglers taking people out but then it will be very easy for all

with isis claiming responsibility. president trump responding late today. here's julia macfarlane. >> reporter: tonight, that most universal, joyful celebration of love turning into tragedy. a wedding in kabul followed by funerals. after a suicide bomber surrounded by families with their children detonated his explosives by the stage. more than 60 lives lost in that moment and nearly 200 injured. the groom devastated. "i've lost hope. i lost my brother, my friends who came to join my wedding party," he said. isis claiming responsibility for the attack that came just a day after president trump hosted a meeting in bedminster with his afghan envoy and top cabinet officials on the current negotiations with the taliban. >> we're there for one reason. we don't want that to be a laboratory. okay? can't be a laboratory for terror. >> reporter: president trump has

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the issue of isis. i want to ask you, walid, first, there will be some sort of resurgence no matter how -- it is alarming when you think about the taliban in afghanistan and isis and the relationship between those. i see almost no mention of the relationship between isis and the taliban. it is critical to the presidents plans to rationalize all military presence around the world. >> is true, this is the problem. meeting how to do with the jihadist movement around the world long term and be realistic. isis, syria and iraq strategically, a formidable job in making sure that the caliphate is gone. they will have them syria and iran and afghanistan and countries around the world, but the concern i have is not really isis and syria, it is what we are doing in terms of cutting a deal with the taliban. there is a question that needs to be debated. they are not reforming so far. lou: and the relationship between the taliban and isis. >> i think the taliban are cutting deals with al qaeda, isis and telling them

we have decimated isis. you haven't been hearing much about isis. we took the caliphate, 100%. when i took it at 98, i said, maybe we go home now. everyone went crazy. they said, do 100%. they said it was going to take a year. it took me a month and they are gone. the caliphate is gone and we are holding thousands of isis fighters right now and europe has to take them. and if europe doesn't take them, i will have no choice but to release them into the countries from which they came, which is germany and france and other places, because we found -- we beat them, we capture them. we have got thousands of them and now, as usual, our allies say, we don't want them. even though they came from france and germany and other places. we are going to tell them and we have already told them, take these prisoners that we have captured, because the united states is not going to put them in guantanamo for the next 50 years and pay for it. >> what is your deadline? >> it is moving along, my deadline. they know. >> [inaudible] >> i did. i went to the hospital. i went to the hospital. it was tot

this new to made that's right and it's similar to the conversations that happened around moderating isis about 5 or 6 years ago that i think a lot of these private companies are waiting for government bodies to step in and say ok this is what legally constitutes white nationalism and this is our federal policy on it the issue that we're seeing and we're probably going to see this start pretty soon is that you can knock down each and all you want you can remove services from it. the poison that infected it isn't god it's not going anywhere i think it is safe to say that the internet is a more radical and more polarized space than it was 10 years ago in fact this weekend there was a 2nd shooter who was heavily involved in the grindcore punk community he was a you know person who would share let's say far left or any fascist material on the internet that's not what radicalized him you know that's not what happened to him it's that you have a generation of it's incredibly angry men who are using the internet to socialize with each other in completely unmoderated spaces and as long as unmoder

isis were defeated, but you can't kill your way out of an insurgency which really isis i would say wasem you face now those underlying causes are still there. and now they're kind of extreme are in supporters and in terms of its fighters 2,000 or so held in makeshift and sometimes permanent prisons. nobody's dealing with that. nobody's working out where are they going to go to school, where are they going to live, be fed even. so those people are getting more and more extreme as the syrian curds lost many live are kind not being left to their own devices not gut given the support they hoped would come from fighting the fight with isis. turkey pressuring them on the other, and of course the u.s. military there kind of hamstrung with a cap on how many people they're supposed to have that in that area. it doesn't want to be there forever, anyway. but the real question is how do they go to phase two after frankly all the killing and bombing? there was an obama administration plan to come in, rebuild. trump kind of got his hands on that, it didn't work out, and it began to fall apart and it

nationalist extremism new york times is talking drawing parallels between the 2 between isis and white nationalist extremism and they are saying why in a way or another why are the american doing exactly what they did with isis and al qaeda and therefore they might find the answer to the questions the face. yes. islamist extremism and white nationalism are actually very similar in a lot of ways particularly in respect to angry young men radicalizing each other there are 2 reasons why the united states hasn't been able to go after white nationalist terrorists the way it was able to go after al qaida and isis 1st of all . it's there are no legal designations for domestic terrorism there are certain designations that allow law enforcement to investigate what could be domestic terror groups but because of the political implications the government doesn't recognize domestic terror groups in the same way that it recognizes foreign terror groups. at the same time one of the reasons why the united states government can't go after far right extremists is because the beliefs and the rhetoric tha

fighting both isis and assad. the 1st of a 2 part epic tale of a remarkable family. the father the son and the jihad caught one on al-jazeera. there's a problem and with the top stories on al-jazeera pakistan has expelled and the as ambassador and suspended trade of a new delhi's decision to revoke the special status for and the administered kashmir and indian security forces are imposing a clampdown in the region priyanka gupta reports. street after a ghost town troops on every corner barricades everywhere in the largest city in the idiot administered kashmir india's government says recent true brute force winds are to ensure security. order as you see the effects of the significant changes to their autonomy and statehood. didn't tell us anything and we walked article 37 all the phone lines are down trains are not working we haven't seen anything like this english meet in our lives. by good workers who hope to find employment here happened stranded for days. internet is down we can't access cash machines no one is listening to our plight no one cares about us libera

to david talk about the resurgence of isis in kirkuk, mosul, parts of syria, isis' presence now in afghanistanus. it strikes me and i'm wondering whether it strikes you or not, our definition of defeat is drastically different from a crew like isis is. 50 years ago we would say we defeated the north vietnamese but they never went away. and now we're saying we have defeated isis in parts of syria, in parts of iraq and in afghanistan. but they clearly are not going away either. >> yeah, i agree, mike. i think in this day and age, especially when you're talking about nonstate actors who have an ideology based on, you know, it can start with personal grievance and then, you know, they fight as fundamentalists against the west. it's not going to go away. it's not going to and the problem here is that our government does not have an overall policy that is going to work to manage the threat from terrorism. why do i say this? because the president withdrew forces. he said i'm going on withdraw forces from syria and he went back and forth on the numbers, but he doesn't have a plan to work out a diploma