now isis is gone but what's the atmosphere like in mosul? since the last time we saw them, but her daughters still feel the loss of their father every single day. isis robbed them of the people they love, and their dreams for the future. dala unfortunately, last time we saw you, you wanted to be a teacher, you were telling me? her sister, malak, has been able to attend school, but their mother is concerned about her daughter's health. today malak is going for a checkup at the local hospital. the health care system has been decimated by the war. the doctors tell us they have some of the expertise, but almost none of the equipment. >> we don't have plastic surgeons, we don't have eye surgeons -- >> reporter: malak needs to travel elsewhere for care. she needs reconstructive surgery and specialist eye care to see if her sight can be restored. but of course, that requires money the family doesn't have. the family still remains hopeful that both girls will be able to get surgery and build better lives for themselves. dalau now dreams of having a

slaughtered by turkey and isis will come back. and that will undercut the narrative you created that you destroyed them. president biden, i am willing to work with you, if you want to reconsider this strategy. now or in the future. my friend, i am here to help you because this is not about you, it is not about me, it is about america. and here's the saddest of all news. as difficult as afghanistan has been, and will be, things have changed. i went over right after the fall of the taliban, today there are over 6 million women who have been educated. kabul is a very commerce-driven area. people can sing and dance and live their lives without the oppression that the taliban brought on them. that to the american people, that any force that will kill women for sport in a soccer stadium, and blow up religious statutes of others is a threat to our way of life. the taliban are not accepted in their own country. they have marginal support. they have used force of arms, intimidation, with their rejected by the afghan people, who could be an

said we're not interested in isis any more they didn't do it any good no for what would isis or the islamic states gain from the front size in a southern offical when isis has historically been established in its own a safe haven as in the middle east particularly in syria and iraq with a totally different set of narratives about who they are and what they would like to achieve when you see that particular message itself is blurred in a way or another when it comes to africa in particular. exactly we know how to. operate absolute up raced through what i can call it a vacuum. either the media vacuum or governance that you know what the curative racket so in terms of the media back and everybody with focus in on a cop in 19. it wasn't big news was not out there and of course you know we have been seeing some movements from might have to be trying to be ok someone else that or to become something of. an hour they're trying to come into was a big where it is and there are some and it's also. you know share the same opinion is that it is some kind of marriage of convenience a marriage bu

this as a province of isis.is local insurgents who have said we are not interested in isis anymore, they did not do us any good. hashem: noufal, what would isis or the islamic state gain from a franchise in southern africa. isis has historically been established in its own safe havens in the middle east, particularly syria and iraq, with a total set of narratives about who they are and what they would like to achieve. when you see that message itself is blurred when it comes to africa in particular? >> exactly. we know how isil operates. it operates through what i call vacuums. either the media vacuum or the government vacuum or a security vacuum. in terms of the media vacuum, everyone was focusing on covid-19. the mozambique news was not out there. and we have been seeing movements from highs will -- from isil trying to become someone else. now they are trying to come into mozambique. some analysts share the same opinion, that there is some kind of a marriage of convenience. a marriage of convenience between th

the taliban are different than al-quaida and isis.ttack us here at home. but i believe they will allow al-quaida and isis to roam freely. in afghanistan, they don't have the will or the capability to police them. this is a high risk strategy, and i pray that i'm wrong. but i know what happened in iraq. the slaughter in paris, hundreds of people killed here at home because of radicals inspired by their success over there. here's what i can tell you. that isis or al-quaida will never conquer america. but they can make our lives miserable. they can radicalize people in our back yard to do a lot of damage to us. if they ever got the ability to use the weapon of mass destruction against america, they would use it. the best way to prevent that is to keep your foot on their throat over there so they can't hurt us here. what have i learned? when they're doing well over there -- >> martha: back again. general jack keane, senior strategic analyst. a lot there. senator graham saying biden, if we're fighting them again in 18 months to three years

isis was always exist no matter who is in charge and how many of their leaders we kill i mean it's a vicious cycle the the american presence in the middle east creates isis and the continued struggle against isis is used to justify the continued presence of the american military in the middle east which creates isis and it's just the circle that goes on and on and on it will never end until we get out of the middle east. president biden is about to appoint a special envoy with the soul of killing off the construction of note stream to a major gas pipeline linking russia to europe and a member of the german parliament foreign affairs committee believes that those efforts at doomed to failure of old of a hood spoke to us here at oncet. a party rule mongooses come to power in the us this will aggravate the problem on the european continent this fits into biden's concept but we have no other choice the project has been approved by all the authorities and it is fully financed if we don't finish it for whatever reason we will lose billions of euros we will also not be able to guarantee our

isis was always exist no matter who is in charge and how many of their leaders we kill i mean it's a vicious cycle the the american presence in the middle east creates isis and the continued struggle against isis is used to justify the continued presence of the american military in the middle east which creates isis and it's just the circle that goes on and on and on it will never end until we get out of the middle east. and wall mongers have gained office in america a member of germany's foreign affairs committee told us here. it's off the president biden moved to hire a special envoy for the sole purpose of killing the construction of the north stream to gas pipeline the m.p. added it's impossible to stop the pipeline from bringing billions of cubic meters of gas from russia so you directly. a party rule mongooses come to power in the us this will aggravate the problem on the european continent this fits into biden's concept but we have no other choice the project has been approved by all the authorities and it is fully financed if we don't finish it for whatever reason we will los

sure isis you know she's not a war in the. area there were hundreds of prisoners thousands of prisoners life many of whom cooperated all who were eventually released i think is part and parcel of the lack of strategic focus that as plagued the united states in terms of its interactions in the middle east since the. very bad decision to invade and occupy iraq back in 2003 we. haven't made a good decision since then all mala turned out to be the media its successor of al but daddy after he was eliminated in a u.s. raid in syria and $29.00 thing today washington has a bounty of $10000000.00 on all malas head well after all it's the us that one spearheaded the war on terror and remains the most successful force in ridding the world of the evil or maybe something has gone wrong with how it's done we've killed isis members by the 10s of thousands if not hundreds of thousands the same without ita and yet they exist because killing people is not destroying the ideology the ideology is sustained by the continued american presence in th

isis of course is trying to acquire them. how difficult it may get much were difficult to attribute the source of some of these attacks? how was isis able to acquire these weapons? >> guest: there's an interesting back story to this because the groups, terrorist groups al-qaeda and isis both have history of interest and chemical weapons. we back when osama bin laden was running the organization once it weapons of master section was a religious duty for this terrorist group. so in afghanistan to experiment with various chemical weapons, tried to make it to attack the western isis or its predecessor got the same i id. begin using chlorine as a chemical weapon. in syria there's an opportunity that could potentially steal stuffnt from assad and they came very close. they were not able to do that so isis decides the next best thing we'll try to make our own. vacancy a spectacularly successful assad was in drawing the attention of the world with just a few rocket shells full of sarin of embark on an ambitious program to manufacture

how do we effectively disrupt al qaeda and isis? >> chair man, i will have more comments in the closed session but briefly i will tell you it may be difficult but it's not impossible to accomplish this task. a couple things have changed since 2001. we were last attacked in afghanistan. first the united states itself is a far harder target than we were in september of 2001. it's more difficult to operate in the united states and gain access to the united states, so a variety of things have changed inside of the united states and we should keep that in mind. additionally, although we are going to try to pull out of afghanistan, we are operating under the concept that the u.s. military presence zero is going to be zero, and we can talk a little bit more about that in the closed session. we will have an architecture in the theater that will allow us to work with afghanistan and will not give the same picture that we've got now and it will allow us to see and it will be greater. the risks will be greater but it will be possible to do tho

isis physical caliphate is no more but it's toxic ideology lives on.roblem is especially acute and gmd's ravaged by conflict and this sprawling camps for displaced persons were isis preys upon vulnerable populations. we have accelerated in the last year of the influence of china and russia are each in their own way are attempting to subvert the rules-based international order and he can strategic influence in the middle east. china's activity in which six form economic investment, arms sales and other overtures. rush has made an 18th century power-play in syria propping up the murders assad regime. the middle east remains key terrain and i believe china and russia will continue to expand the efforts to improve the position and diminished u.s. standing wherever possible. the centcom area of responsibility somoza cyber contested theater in the world. it is the proving ground for the proliferation and deployment of unmanned weaponized systems, many emanating from the rain. this difficult and couplets operational environment provide unit inside centcom opp

isis is very small in afghanistan, probably several hundred fighters and isis can be bigger but still disaggregated and they not been able to hold ground successfully and they look to reassert themselves if they can but pressure is the important components of that and i can see i'm out of time. >> if we are gone and the coalition forces are gone and caliban does take a more prominent role in afghanistan is it a concern of yours that they may increase their presence? without is there to push back. >> the taliban has undertaken to agree to not allow that to happen. the taliban and i've learned to not listen to what they say but rather to watch what they do. we will watch closely what they do. >> great. general townsend, given the massive size of your ao are i would like to hear more about your any additional resources or capabilities you need particularly in the southern part of the continent in the western part to carry out your mission. are you adequately resourced in that part of the continent? >> ranking member, as you noted africa is three and half times the size of the continent u

isis is not going to go away. it's going to remain. but our objective is to enb able local security forces that we have trained and enabled to be able to handle the problem at a local level without significant external assistance from either us or european allies. the other component of that is you want to prevent those elements from being able to develop global connective tissue to reach out to otheren entities that's not only a physical fight on the ground, but a fight in cyber. we conducted in all those to mains. that's the way i read the picture now. pressure is necessary. the trends are moving right way and the dialogue is just one example of that moving forward. as we dpo forward, we'll look to re-examine the posture we have in iraq and that will be something we'll take a look at here in the future with our iraqi partners. in afghanistan, as you noted, the principle reason we see isis and al qaeda have been significantly degraded has been the significant pressure that we have been able to put on them. isis is very small in afghan

by day three, isis insurgents encircled the hotel. rescue choppers had to turn back after running out of fuel. those inside faced a terrifying choice. >>> we knew that we were not going to -- they would be slaughtered. >> if the helicopters were flying we must go. >> they decided to leave in a 17 car convoy, adrian got had in behind the wheel to drive. with a loving warning from his brother. >>> it was here that wesley stopped filming. within minutes of driving off they came under fire. adrian took a bullet in his shoulder and leg. but kept on driving. eventually, sorry on. eventually the car came to a stop on. and i jumped out the back seat. to the front and lifted him up and pushed him to the back where my dad was holding him and holding his wounds to stop the blood. by the time they reached a safer place, it was too late. >>> covered him up. and say goodbye to him. thank you for saving all of our lives. and we left the sccar and ran i to the bush. and then headed in the bush and was in the thick under brush for two days. >> reporte

they fought off isis with u.s. special forces now they're fighting what's beneath their feet and losing u.s. troops continue to patrol here, looking for isis holdouts, but there's still no stability and the environmental fallout from the toxic mix of war and oil means millions of syrian refugees will have a far less welcoming homeland to return to. the u.s. military did not respond to our requests for comment there are no plans currently to clean up the oil contamination, and any cleanup would be expensive and difficult because of the ongoing conflict and this is just a glimpse of the environmental degradation in syria lester >> yet another cost of war. okay, richard, thank you. >>> up next, which essentials are about to get more expensive? >>> just days after prince philip's funeral queen elizabeth is marking her 95th birthday. in a message the queen said she is deeply touched by all the support and kindness since her husband's death. >>> here at home we're talking about the price you pay, and it's surging on hous

machine gun position or this isis mortar position, how can we help the taliban to defeat isis? that elicited so many more complicated feelings for me. the idea that we're helping now or in partnership now with a group that has killed so many americans, certainly is writing to a lot of people. and i understand why, but as one of these special operations veterans, well, current special operation guys in the task force was telling me when i was writing this passage, he said basically look, we all want to be out there fighting the war stored that we've also been doing so long we understand something different is needed. i think that's a fairly common view also among guys who are still at it. >> so i've got one last question for you before we start taking questions from the audience, so audience members start shooting in your questions. this week or this weekend i read an article in the new yorker, and reading that it seems that the taliban and the government of afghanistan really don't want to share power. why would he give up that power-sharing with the taliban? are reading this i

>> if you can do from the sky, great the problem is isis doesn't wear isis uniforms so you have to have human intelligence to know who these people are. secondarily if the afghan government falls you now have taken the battle space of potential terrorism from 25-30 25-30-to 100% not to mention the potential radicalization of the population now going to be under rule third let's think about the fact when you have 150,000 russian troops on the border of ukraine from the of with china, renegotiating the iran nuclear deal and fighting isis in the middle east what is the message it sends? the message that america is on the retreat and i will tell you from fighting extremism and terrorism this is exactly what they have quote unquote prophesies is the u.s. will leave and this is certainly a recruiting.for future resurgent terrorists. >> we thank you for your service representative can see kirk thank you for joining us here on firing line's but you bet it was great being with you thank you. >> firing line with margaret hoover is made possible in part by the margaret and daniel love foundation;

isis group, ended up seizing 40% of the territory in iraq and the u.s. up having to send back 5000 troops because they left too early. guarantee that won't happen in afghanistan? i can tell you president biden has no sending forces back to afghanistan but he has no intention take care eye off the ball. we have the capacity from repositioning our capabilities over the horizon to continue to suppress the terrorist threat in afghanistan. i cannot make any guarantees about what will happen inside the country. no one can. all the united states could do is provide the afghan security forces, the afghan government and the afghan people resources and capabilities training and clipping their forces. providing assistance to the government. we have done that and next time for american troops to come home and the afghan people to step up and defend their own country. chris: he said the president was a focus on the threats of 2021 not 2020. i want to talk about one of those and that is iran. they say they are making progress and talks indirect with the u.s. on resumi

you have the taliban, al qaeda, isis.sarily agree in terms of what conditions need to look like, and clearly the government in kabul still needs to reach to the far corners in order to try to establish some degree of governance over that very ungovernsed space. it probably will remain ungovernsed for the nearest hid -- we still have to have incrediby strong intelligence collection. and there will be military to military exchanges where we'll have temporary presence in country. so we'll be a presence, but it won't be this enduring long-term presence we've had for two decades. kaitlan, to you. you know, for people who were tuned into cnn, let's say, october of 2001, where this president currently stood in the treaty room, was exactly the same spot that president george w. bush -- here's the screen grab, from october of 2001, announcing those air strikes. we heard the president mention he did speak to president bush yesterday about his decision. can you tell me more about the thinking that went into all of this? >> reporter:

the problem is, isis doesn't wear isis uniforms. so, you have to have human intelligence to know who these people are. secondarily, if the afghan government falls, you now have taken the battle space of potential terrorism from 25%, 30% of the territory of afghanistan to 100%. plus noto mention the potential radicalization of population that's now, you know, going to be under taliban rule. and third, let's think about the fact, when you have 150,000 russian troops on the border of ukraine, you have challenges with china, you're renegotiating an iran nuclear deal, we're still fighting isis in the middle east, what is the message that this send? it sends the message that america is on the retreat, and i'll tell you from fighting extremism and terrorism, this is exactly what they have, quote, unquote prophecied. >> we thank you for your service, representative kinzinger. thank you for joining me here on "firing line." >> you bet. it was great being with you. thank you. >> announcer: "firing line" with margaret hoover is made possible i