isis is known for. and it will be interesting to see what, if he does go, how isis manages to continue. as i said, there has been just a few days ago another senior isiseader, al binali, killed around raqqah, and the organization of this network has been really demolished by the assault on isis in iraq and in syria, and in syria, of course, not just by the coalition, but russian airpower and syrian ground forces, too. and i think it's important to mention in that context that over the last few weeks, russia has been very much saying we are the ones who are fighting terrorism, we are, our air support is supporting syrian ground troops as they battle isis, al nusra and other terrorist groups in syria. and the russians are saying, actually, coalition forces have been much more intent on targeting syrian ground troops and on waging war against assad than they have in fighting the terrorists. so, if russia does provide evidence to prove that they managed to kill al baghdadi, they win a major propaganda victory. >> no doubt there. many have questioned whose side russia is on in the ongoing war in syria. primarily, was social media the tool by which al baghd

isis in mosul the end of the caliphate iraq's bold claim as it takes mosul famous iraqi forces say they've taken an iconic mosque in the heart of mosul that was destroyed by isis iraqi forces battled the last isis fighters in those all well in what is undoubtedly a victory in reading iraq of this of isis it is worth remembering the effect on the people of mosul to have spent over a month during the battle here are his thoughts. liberation that's one way of putting it obliteration is another the goal was noble enough free thousands from isis isis the so-called caliphate is crumbling wieters have abandoned fighters to die local fighters are being left to rot where they fall remaining inexperienced fighters are making rookie mistakes rowing them selves and fellow fighters up accidentally in preparation for combat mission accomplished mosul has been cleansed by fire a city almost the size of a room reduced to rubble it is difficult to describe you've got to be there walk down its blasted streets and you'll feel it this is what the off the mouth of a classic strike in mosul look like view here really epitomizes what mosul has been through the neighboring street all but destroyed the street across ru

specific connection to isis but rather he was militarized by an affinity toward a liking of terrorism generally. >> i disagree, greg. he was inspired by isis. that's the way isisrates like they found no isis connection. >> he was inspired by their call to violence. this is how isis is operating now. it's carrying out acts of terror by recruiting followers in other countries that may not have any direct connections to. is it possible to believe that this man would not have committed these acts of terror if isis was not encouraging this activity? gregg: there are plenty of other terrorist groups like al qaeda. >> the point was that you don't have to be necessarily recruited that you can simply, on your own, decide this is a radical ideology that i want to adhere to and i'm going to do what a great many others have done and commit acts of violence. >> it could have been al qaeda that radicalized him but the ideology that's being pushed in very violent videos and very violent sermons is coming from isis. isis is the primary driver of this radical islamic terrorism at this time. greg, thanks for being with us. >> good to be here. patti ann: our special extended lif

isis in mosul the end of the caliphate iraq's bold claim as it takes mosul famous mosque iraqi forces say they've taken an iconic mosque in the heart of mosul that was destroyed by isis iraqi forces battled the last isis fighters in those or in what is undoubtedly a victory in ridding a rack of the scourge of i.c.c. it's important to those remember the effect on the people of mosul more goes to oversee a correspondent spent over a month there during the battle. liberation that's one way of putting it obliteration is another the goal was noble enough freeing thousands from isis isis the so-called caliphate is crumbling wieters have abandoned fighters to die local fighters are being left to rot where they fall remaining inexperienced fighters are making rookie mistakes blowing them selves and fellow fighters up accidentally in preparation for combat mission accomplished mosul has been cleansed by fire a city almost the size of a room reduced to rubble it is difficult to describe you've got to be there walk down it's blasted streets and you'll feel it this is what the off the mouth of a classic strike in mosul look like view here really epitomizes what mosul has been through the neighboring street all bu

isis and isis followers, what they would do. you attack on a saturday night, you attack partygoers, people who are in their pubs drinking alcohol. as we know, isis abhors alcohol, they view people who are -- westerners drinking alcohol as essentially a sin punishable by death. to come in in a three-man team after crashing that vehicle jives with some of the things we heard very early on. but coming in and doing a multi-person armed edged weapon attack in a pub, that's organized. and they probably -- i can understand people using improvised implements to ward them off. and then they probably ran off and moved on to another location. and did what we call a rolling crime scene. where they were doing incident after incident. and that would explain why one of the armed police officers engaged multiple times. and i think that's what we're going to find out here is that at some point, these individuals were either apprehended, killed, or wounded or may even have got away. and we'll determine that. the british are excellent at keeping things close to their chest. in order to, again, make sure that other people who may be waiting in the wings, who may ha

very thorough and very serious ideology from the americans to destroy isis i've never believed that america really want to destroy isis in syria was i think russia's plans are. do you just start looking at the sort of battle maps of syria how they've chopped and changed over the last few months the fighting terror aspect of the syrian war seems to be moving closer to an end now weis is on its last legs many would argue what he thinks next though once isolates gone which it inevitably will do as a. field military force so to speak what's next with so many players there in the field. you know that's really what we want to know daniel the big question is do these all these huge international players actually stop and walk away or is there a second agenda is there a second game plan there and i think from the american position i have no question whatsoever that there is and it may well take some time but i think in the longer term as i said in my in my first answer i think the americans do have a longer term and iranian agenda and hitting proxies of iran would be quite an attractive and quote for them a logical step to do

chechnya has more than hinted that he has been dispatching spies into isis to join isis from chechnya to gather evidence and so on. isisas claimed they had executed some of these spies. one of whom was eulogized. again, sort of authenticating that view. isis is infiltrated by various intelligence agencies, but i don't think they have better detail or better information than what the coalition has got. the coalition exclusively is going after this group. jeff: how do baghdadi's travels and secrecy differ from bin laden? michael: zarqawi was a little sloppier. you have to remember, the reason that america was able to get him was because the jordanians had been following him since he was wannabe jihadi who had gone to afghanistan in -- and came back. the u.s. was able to reverse engineer where he was by doing these opportunistic operations and gathering all this digital information. american special forces are doing the same thing right now, trying to find out where baghdadi and the inner sanctum of isis is. that's what i mean. america has more of a true presence in the caliphate than russia. in this information had come

isis in mosul the end of the caliphate iraq's own claim i think takes mosul a messy iraqi forces say they've taken an iconic mosque in the heart of moe's all that was destroyed by isis iraqi forces battle of the last i think fighters and now it's all well in what's on died at least a victory in ridding iraq of the scourge of ises it's important to remember the effect on the people of mosul iraq as the of spent over a month there are joining the battle. liberation that's one way of putting it obliteration is the not the goal was noble enough three thousands from isis isis a so-called caliphate is crumbling wieters have abandoned fighters to die local fighters are being left to rot where they fall remaining in experience fighters are making rookie mistakes blowing them selves and fellow fighters up accidentally in preparation for combat mission accomplished mosul has been cleansed by fire a city almost the size of a room reduced to rubble it is difficult to describe you've got to be there walk down it's blasted streets and you'll feel it this is what the off the mouth of a classic strike in mosul look like if you hear a really epitomizes what mosul has been through the neighboring street all but destroyed the street across rubble the street over there it's the same story wherever you look the press was tightly controlled no freedom of reporting in mosul. we saw what we were allowed to see but this was enough. i knew little do a little alone with the one hundred got it common. sense i didn't i'm sure a half million. at the end of the time many of yo

isis isis the so-called caliphate is crumbling leaders have abandoned fighters to die local fighters are being left to rot where they fall were remaining inexperienced fighters are making rookie mistakes growing them selves and fellow fighters up accidentally in preparation for combat mission accomplished mosul has been cleansed by fire a city almost the size of a room reduced to rubble it is difficult to describe you've got to be there walk down it's blasted streets and you'll feel it this is what the off the mouth of a classic strike in mosul look like if you hear a really epitomizes what mosul has been through the neighboring street all but destroyed the street across rubble the street over there it's the same story wherever you look the press was tightly controlled no freedom of reporting in mosul. we saw what we were allowed to see but this was enough. little bit little along with the surface one had your garbage comment. that is that then i am sure i actually am. happy and of the time many of you tell. salamat benefit that i've been the fall again of now much a lot of thought of me. like that. streets and buildings can be restored lives canales children families whole neighborhoods was sacrificed to us strikes in the liberation isis made sure that civilians died they used them as human shields hoping that the coalition would stop its s. strikes they miscalculated the bombs rained down until the end two billion casualties are a fact of life in this sort of situation when a single u.s. led air strike killed more than one hundred civilians i remember clearly how they tried but failed to contain that at first they blamed isis then they admitted to the bombing but still blame diocese perhaps civilians are being killed either by mistake or because the enemy is using a tactic that actually has them become part of the target that is on them not on us it's not our fault that we're killing civilians they said we'll remember this as a victory the liberation of mosul. but liberation may be the wrong. for we can cross live now to baghdad to speak to unicef's representative in iraq peter hall conspiratory welcome to the program and before we get on to today a statement coming from you and your group about the number of childre

complicated idea towards what they're doing or what their objectives are they simply want to hit isis isis hard so that that extremist group can be completely eradicated. and eighty three year old woman has won a gender discrimination case against israel's national airline el al read a repeat of it's a holocaust survivor had been given a seat next to an orthodox jewish man on her flight from new york to tel aviv but the crew asked her to move after her neighbor insisted he couldn't sit next to a woman for religious reasons or alina it's out her lawyer gave us more details about the case. i spoke with the man and. what was his problem with my sitting next to him and he respond to light really bad it is sad. that. man is should not sit next to a woman. a it's a fact i did not think that was the case. there is no or he couldn't or say sharon. that supported me and brought suit the first hearing was eighteen months after we filed our lawsuit but we're very satisfied with the result. renee hobby know of each of the unlikely heroine a beautiful israeli in a way wonder woman was able to beat our

isis. >> david, does isis even need to be organized. because, for all we know, and we have seen this in other attacks, they have been conducted by people inspired by isis and self radicalized with no direction from isis. >> well, that right, you know, and this type of attack is also the least sophisticated of the terrorist attack. this taking a vehicle and driving it to people can be devastating there is loss of life and casualties, but this is simple way to attack people. they are not having to you know, build a bomb, you don't are to even get weapons, so, in that way, if there are people who are inspired by isis, this is an easy cowardly way to attack people, it is very difficult for law enforcement to prevent this but on the positive side, i would think you could say that law enforcement is working in some ways because we're having less and less of these more sophisticated attacks, attacks on transportation systems, and using bombs, which are more difficult to take more planning. >> they are going after the soft targets, does not take much to get to a van, and plow into a crowd. we had a gust on that was here, maybe -- a guest on, talking about how

that is the leader of isis may be killed in one of the air strikes in syria along with 30 isis commanders and 300 fighters. air strike in raqqah late last month targeted a meeting of isis leaders, russia says it's still investigating the report of baghdadi's death through various channels. lauren: president trump heading to miami to announce changes made by president obama. revised policy will take aim at travel and cutting off the flow of america's cash to cuban security and resources. still a former u.s. deplo mat says he doesn't expect major changes. >> there may be some small steps some small negative step but i think reality will win out and trump will see that it doesn't make any sense, that goes against the answers of the united states. lauren: looks like you can bring back cuban cigars. they have been reviewing it for five months. lea: steve scalise wounded on wednesday after gunman open fired in baseball game in suburban, virginia, doctors issuing a statement late last night. earlier today congressman underwent second surgery related to internal injuries and broken bone in leg. he remains in critical condition but has improved in the last 24 hours. the congres

it will be unusual for the leader of isis to be attending a meeting with 300 isis soldiers. even senior isis groups because of drone strikes. the russians are saying they are still investigating here and trying to get more information. we have not heard anything from isis. i would just say if he has been killed, of course, it would deal a big blow to the group. let's look at the past few weeks. major terror attacks in london and baghdad and tehran and can pull and kabul. a lot of questions. we are trying to get more answers. alisyn. >> thank you, clarissa. we have more from the pentagon and barbara starr with the reaction. >> alisyn, the u.s. military and

isis is defeated. tau awe isis will surely turn into insurgency when they lost their territory. >> that's the next stage of isis, we call that isis 2.0. insurgency, rural. i think we still still be here dealing with that problem set for a while. >> isis and its cult of barbarity may be difficult to eradicate entirely.ns base to launch attacks on the west and the u.s. hopes retaking the city it will prevent future attacks. >> a viral video on facebook shows a jacksonville florida, police officer, threatening to haul a young black man to jail after stopping him for jaywalking. did the low-level infraction warrant a high intensity encounter? >> take your camera point it across there at the red hand. that is a cross walk. >> reporter: moments after being stopped for allegedly jaywalking, 21-year-old davonte shipman started to record the incidence. >> i am about to put you in jail. >> disobeying a direct order. >> that's not resisting, officer. >> reporter: the interaction happened a week ago. shipman believes this is about more than just a jaywalking citation. >> i was just stopped for being black and walking how i

symbolic step for the coalition of nations fighting isis because it was in this 850-year-old mosque that abu bakr al baghdadi, isis' leader declared isis a caliphate three years ago when the group was at the height of its power. all of this comes as anti-isis forces in nearby syria surrounded raqqah. but there's still a lot more to be done. hundreds of isis fighters are holed up in the old city and many retreated to their desert hide outs. and their ideology far beyond syria and iraq that remains a formidable threat. >>> tennis star venus williams has been found at fault for a fatal car crash in florida earlier this month. police say williams drove into an intersection in palm beach gardens on july 9th and was hit by an oncoming car. the passenger in the second carrier car was injured. police found williams was at fault for violating barson's right-of-way. she's not been cited or charged. the crash is still under investigation. williams lawyer issued a statement. >>> now high-speed car chase that started in kentucky. it went on for about 40 minutes. the driver even crossed the state line entering indiana. it took 22 law enforcement veh

isis inspired or isis directed, they are savage murderers. it's an evil slaughter. i'm not going to let him be seen as the perpetrator here. every time you said russia, imagine you said isis. every time you said twitter, imagine if you said terrorist. >> but kellyanne, in fairness, he's setting the agenda. he speaks. the reporter covers what he said. >> what did he say to theresa may? >> he did say that to theresa may. but most of his quotes had to do with either his own political concern, the travel ban, which he's had four more tweets about that this morning, and a misleading attack on london's mayor. my question was simply, does he owe an apology to london's mayor for quoting him in a misleading and inaccurate way? >> so we've got the 23rd isis-inspired or directed attack taking innocent lives, children in manchester, children in nice. we want to know, put some blame-worthiness on president trump. i'm not going to allow it. here's what he's doing as president of the united states and commander in chief, standing firm, because an attack on london is an attack on american values, also. they're our greatest ally. we stand with them. we will do whatever it takes to help th

isis and al-qaeda linked groups to overthrow the secular government of president assad in syria but while u.s. and british warplanes have been aiding the russian led syria iran onslaught on isis one of donald trump's planes appeared to aid isis on sunday we begin tonight with breaking news overseas for the first time a u.s. fighter jet has shot down a syrian warplane the details are just coming in within hours moscow introduced a red lines even before the u.s. downing of another syrian aircraft over syria russia says it will target any u.s. coalition warplane or drone currently invading syrian airspace west of the euphrates river to raise them a said this is not going to be any change in u.k. policy unlike this response by u.k. ally within the past twenty four hours as reported by china the people's republic supports russia's line on respecting the sovereignty of syria australia has suspended its airstrikes in syria following the delany of the syrian aircraft australia's department of defense said in a statement that the decision was made as a precautionary measure one is left to assume that australia does not. one to one of its war planes shot down by the russian or syrian air force that alone an iranian missile iran like r

isi isis. what the prime minister is saying as the coalition troops close in on victory. >> heather: a fox news alert on an oil-rich country in crisis as venezuela comes under attack. a helicopter firing on the country's supreme court and interior ministry, a venezuelan president calling it an attempt to oust him. there is a lot of finger-pointing going around on both sides, some opponents saying the government may have stated it all. steve, what is this about? >> this is a dramatic and puzzling story to many, the helicopter circled around some of the main buildings in caracas, including the supreme court. dropped at least for hand grenades, fired 15 shots. the government said this was a violent attempt. the man who claims responsibility, he is a police captain calling on his warriors of god to try to unseat a corrupted government. some in the opposition are wondering how it is possible for a police captain to steal a helicopter and fly around caracas for two hours firing shots and get away completely. some thinks the president's stage this. protesters have been out for three months, 75 have been killed, they are protesting a failed socialist state. they want the president out, he says he is willing to fight bac back. he has had backing from the military. this escalation could mean there is a crack of some of the support, things are certainly heating up with this escalation, another violent attack on tuesday. >> heather: thank you. >> jon: those are iraqi troops with the backing of the u.s. battling isiss they edge closer to completely liberating mosul. a final offensive against the islamic state. joining is now, retired u.s. army special forces it lieutenant. i know you were in mosul not too long ago, you provided us some video of what you saw there. if mosul falls, that is the last stronghold of isis within iraq, right? >> yes, there is less than elsewhere a mile left to clear, it is going to take several more days but it is alley to alley, street to street, house to house fighting. it's not like what we have seen before where they can call in a lot of air strikes and use a lot of armored vehicles, it is soldiers with rifles and hand grenades going in after the individual isis fighters there. >> jon: we saw you and selfie video, were you there as an advisor, observer, tell us about your role. >> some of the people i ran into thought i was, i was open that i was a retired soldier working on a masters degree in journalism and the self-funded trip over the christmas break was my thesis

isis that coalition forces blew up a mosul mosque considered the birthplace of the islamic state's self-declared caliphate. u.s. officials say the isis claim is 1,000% false. meantime, iraq's military putting the blame back on isisondent nick paton walsh live for us in beirut. sir, tell me exactly why this mosque is so significant symbolically. >> reporter: for isis, it is really the symbolic seat of their leader, baghdady. he announced their leadership of the caliphate. it holds a holy place in the islamic faith, dating to the 12th century. the actual destruction appears on one of the holiest nights in the holy month of ramadan. who's behind this? the fog of war at play, but the preponderance suggests that maybe isis did it themselves in all truth given the number of explosives that have been seen being moved around the compound in the past weeks or so and, frankly, the unlikelihood of the u.s. choosing this moment and not one in the months past to deliver the air strike they're accused of by isis. isis having a bad record in telling the truth. what does it mean for the terror group? it's a phenomenal admission of defeat frankly. saying this is an announcement of their defeat. it's them engaging in the scorched

isis gunfire. before ferrying our team to safety. even faced with inevitable defeat, isis showed us they're determined to wreak more death in this shattered city. what we did not see in raqqa were the areas under isisontrol. that's most of the city, anthony. an estimated 2500 isis fighters and tens of thousand of civilians. >> holly williams with some extraordinary reporting. thank you, holly. >> the drinking water in wilmington, north carolina is tested for a toxic substance called genx used in nonstick products. it turned up recently in the cape fear river, which supplies 250,000 people. jericka duncan is in wilmington. >> reporter: this fayetteville plant 80 miles upstreet from wilmington where genx is manufactured by dupont, and company officials revealed the chemical has been released into the river for nearly four decades. >> they caught us off-guard. >> wilmington mayor bill safo. >> we don't know what will this do to us drinking it for long period of time. three year study by north carolina state university and the epa out this past fall, showed an elevated presence of genx in wilmington's tap water. but the findings weren't publicly disclosed until this month. >> so i ask all of you to kee

many people who are affected are refugees who have been fleeing isis. isis to retake mosul. already, the investigation is an international flight. the meal was provided by a charity based in qatar. they accused the charity of providing tainted food. saudi officials with other countries have cut ties with qatar, charging the small country of supporting terrorism. it is not clear when the food was tainted, whether it was first created or cooked or at the process of being delivered. this with the u.n. is trying to find out. with hundreds of people sick and some of them very serious, there is a real concern about whether or not the food was prepared and that's where the tainted food came from or whether it was tainted in preparation several days before. this is obviously spiraling out into a larger fight between saudi arabia and qatar. it's becoming a nasty fight between the two countries. they obviously don't care about this fight. the issue for them as having access to clean and healthy food. that's something that is growing increasingly difficult with the fig

isis. >> thanks, richard. isis' semiofficial news agency claimed responsibility a few hours ago. now, it is hard to tell exactly what that means because in the past, they have claimed responsibility for other attacks that -- without providing any real proof they were behind them, almost seemed like claims of responsibility more opportunistic than truthful. in the past, isis seemed to sort of piggyback on other attacks, or claim attacks that turned out to not be attacks at all. so we need to wait a little while longer. it is not even clear if police themselves will be able to determine how closely connected these three assailants were with isis, and isis' ideology. moving forward, this is going to be a new wrinkle in this investigation and as you already mentioned, richard, police have arrested a dodson people in east london, in and around the area of barking. this investigation is likely to expand into a nationwide or international manhunt. remember, we talk about the incidents fairly regularly and in the past, throughout europe, these sorts of attacks have most often involved lone wolf attackers. that means the police only have to investigate one person. that's actually more of a challenge with this case. we have three perpetrators. that means three sets of friends, three sets of family, and three different sets of co-workers that really expands the foo

americans from going to events, i was at an event last year and someone -- anonymous hack and isis website, isisthe attack, security was phenomenal, unbelievable the extra security. the place was sold out, everyone showed up. when you ask americans are they reticent to do something, the answer is yes but i don't think it is stopping them from going to these events. arthel: do you worry about these events hurting the economy? >> the intention of attacking soft targets like this is to have the greatest psychological impact possible on people to make people feel they could be targets at any time. there is reluctance to these big events, i don't believe the american people will allow this to impact their lives. they will take pause because of the psychological impact of this exact major, but we will live our lives. dagen: people expected to travel over the july 4th holiday, record number of people flying, that is positive. >> ticket sales, $40 million, you too -- people are going to these events, they might in surveys say they won't go but maybe they want to go anyway and hillary clinton wins the pr

isis personnel. among them senior isis leaders. among them the leader of isis itself. for a number of reasons, there are red flags that leave one feeling as you heard from the general skeptical about this and wanting to take a deep breath and drill down on the details. certainly some of this doesn't seem to add up. >> general, where do you put the most weight in terms of area for reason of skepticism? is it that supposedly in march, the leadership moved away from raqqah? is it this doesn't comport with what we understand about al bagdadi's typical practices or the intel side that not only do you not have reaction from isis, but supposedly u.s. intel is not picking up chatter? >> i put it onni both, chris. if something like this happened, there would be a lot of talk about it. what the russians are reporting through their state run news agency is this strike occurred between 2115 and 2145 hours on the night of 28 may. 28 may was two days into ramadan. there are potentials for groups coming together to break the fast. clarissa said there is not 300, but maybe 30. it just

isis and al qaeda is just the idea that isis declared the state and they have a califf. if the califf doesn't exist, they have the same ideology and wouldn't be surprised to see them inspired by isisay. >> if you think, it's great, it's important mosul has been taken back and raqqah will be taken back and isis will be defeated but if you think that the world is suddenly safer as a result, that's naive. >> absolutely. because we are fighting an ideology and that ideology will continue. raqqah will cease to exist. mosul will cease to exist. isis will cease to exist, but guess what? that message will continue to inspire people around the world. >> around. the author of the new book, it is called, tell me again? >> anatomy of terror. >> excellent book. i read the book, just not the title all the time. >>> kentucky secretary of state will not comply. i'll tell why after this and saturday show tomorrow, "velshi and ruhle." i'll be back after this. our grandson. (woman 2 vo) that's when moderate alzheimer's made me a caregiver. (avo) if their alzheimer's is getting worse, ask about once-a-day namzaric. namzaric is approved for moderate to severe alzheimer's disease in patients taking don

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from isis, in terms of terrorism and also in terms of migration, so what we should do i guess with the russians and uranian's, really understanding first on the defeat of isis, but the defeat of isiss not enough. when isis is defeated, there's the question of the governor's, so we are willing to convince the russians and iranians that they cannot come back to these regions. these regions are populated by sunnis who are adversaries of aside. let's try to work on the political transition in the area controlled by assad, and on the other side, let's find the next step toward governance -- charlie: you think that are divided in syria? gerard: not legally, but on the period,or a transitory this country has suffered so maybe let's try first andppease the conflict after that will come a political transition. charlie cole and to the west make a mistake not to do more earlier? gerard: i think so, yes. charlie: history will judge harshly? gerard: i will let history decide. west lost its leverage on the ground. why when there was the strike, when we could have -- you need after the strike a political strategy. charlie: how do they perceive president trump? gerard: 65 million french have a lo

isis. caught in this war zone are thousands of families now free from isis' reign of terror, its draconian laws and public beheadings. this man saying he was reborn, thanking everyone he saw, even us. three years ago isis leader abu bakr al baghdadi announced the start of his so-called caliphate in a mosque here. last week isis blew it up. today iraqi forces raised their flag on the spot. >> this is the final days of the caliphate in mosul. >> reporter: what does that mean for the war against isis? >> this is a catastrophca catastrophic setback for isis. >> reporter: just a few more blocks to go, but they could prove to be the hardest yet. richard engel, nbc news, mosul. >>> still ahead, the new battle off the court for superstar venus williams. why one man's family says she's to blame for his death. >>> also "titanic" treasures. an exclusive look at never before seen i never miss an early morning market. but with my back pain i couldn't sleep or get up in time. then i found aleve pm. the only one to combine a sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. and now. i'm back! aleve pm for a better am. when you're close to the people you love, does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touchin

collapsing, and i think eventually the clock is going to run out on isis. >> in a round about way is russia propping up isis? >> not propping up isiswhat they're doing. assad needed isis so that the west wouldn't arm the syrian army, which are reasonable people. so they kept them from supporting a democratic movement and the russians are supporting assad. >> let's talk about the travel ban because the president said, the people, the loyers and the courts can call it whatever they want, but i'm calling it what we need is what it is, a travel ban. how are the president's policies, these tweets, executive orders received by the families that you work with? >> it's not a direct effect to the family we worked with. the family we worked with were affected by the eu turkey agreements. anytime there's a unilateral ban you're sending the wrong message to people being displaced by war. >> these battles are not always won and last on the battlefield. how would you advise the president of the united states? what would you tell him? >> we can win any battle on the ground. what's harder and more important is to win an ideological fight. my fathe

isis inspired? isis directed? or some other group? or just a bunch of lone individuals? >> we don't know yet, but from isis's perspective, if they've inspired an attack, it's a direct attack. the orlando attack was the most lethal was inspired by isis. 49 people were killed in the guy nightclub in orlando last year. so for isis that was a success. whether for them it doesn't really matter if it's directed or inspired. in the case of the london attacks we don't know. my guess is it was certainly isis inspired. the manchester attack seemed to have been directed by isis. >> if you read the british press as you have, nic has been going through it closely has well, it seems as if these three individuals, the terrorists who committed these crimes were themselves shot and killed by police may have been well known to local authorities. >> well that's not surprising. the manchester attacker was known to local authorities. the guy who drove the car into the westminster bridge in march was known to authorities. atino killed the 49 people in florida and they were known by the fbi. what's atypical and is they're not know

isis. for the iranians, isis is a by-product of saudi... ideology and saudi financing. sot saudis, isisa by-product of iranian support for-- shi'a militias in iraq which are killing sunnis en mass. the reality is that isis poses a grave threat to iran, but an even griever threat to saudi arabia. so in theory these two countries have a mutual adversary in isis. but what iran has been doing which i think is quite dangerous is conflating saudi arabia and isis, and they put their finger on something which has a powerful resonance amongst iranians and whether you're a shiite cleric, or a secular iranian opponent of the regime living in los angeles, there is this kind of persian nationalism against saudi arabia. they're trying to harness that. but what's dangerous about that is not that they blamed saudi arabia for this attack and retallation, this really has a danger of escalatin escalating e regional war between iran and saudi arabia, which has really eclipsed the conflict and the destabilization of the middle east. >> very strong tensions between iran and saudi arabia. we also have a proxy