is condoned by islam. general keane, obviously this is speculation, but the military is most sensitive of any organization i know to any allegation or impression of being discriminatory, which is appropriate. do you think that political correctness may have played some role in the fact that these jobs were not connected? >> absolutely. also, if actor is nidal malik hasan's position as an officer and a psychiatrist contributed to that because of the special category, someone operating every day treating patients in the military. and individual activity verses a group activity which provides considerably more supervision in squads, cocoons and companies in our units. there is no doubt in my mind that that was operating here but in fairness to many of the people associating with him, based on what preliminary research i have done what the committee is doing, what we will find very clearly is we do not have specific guidelines on dealing with jihad extremism in terms of the obligations of members of the milita

, founded in islam under in india. you describe it very well in the book. but also. >> guest: is strong in the punjab. it is to some in the northwest frontier province but particularly punjab, there's more or less a flavor of shrines that they will go and visit, they will spend hours there in the evening we sat in poetry, dancing, and it is a very, very unorthodox kind which drives the wahhabi's not. >> guest: it does. what's happening right now and swastikas were the first thing that the taliban did was take over some of the shrine can say we are now running fees and no one comes in here. it is a direct threat to them because it is a different relationship with god. is a very one on one. it is an intimate relationship with god that is required to dancing. >> host: the celebration of this form of islam where it's not locking women away. this is a lot of pure celebration. >> guest: when i went back in august 2008, 7 months after being kicked out, i went back to the smithsonian about one of these celebrations. is the ann

being against islam.islam. >> does >> i think it is an outrageous, irresponsible statement by a religious leader. it is full of discrimination. it is offensive to muslims in general, and it no doubt in flames this situation and make no contribution to what we are trying to achieve, and that is a stable situation. does anybody else want to comment? >> i agree completely with general keane. it is ignorant. it lacks the basis of knowledge. there is a very small extreme wing of islam, but there are extreme wings of other religions which are found to be deeply offensive to the vast majority of the leaders of those religions, just as fundamental extremism is to islam. the vast majority of people, muslim or not, should take great offense at this statement. >> thank you very much for raising that last question. i agree that not only was an outrageous, but it hurts our efforts to succeed in this conflict. the other senators who came earlier it had to leave. i think senator collins and i will do one more quick roun

instead of a medical lecture hasan talked about islam. you see here the power point presentation on your screen which was published in "the washington post" frequently citing the koran and explaining concepts like islam. he represented in this presentation muslims be allowed to claim conscientious objector status so they did not have to fight other muslims and the military could avoid adverse events as it said in the presentation, robin. >> interesting. we've also heard that he was communicating with a radical muslim cleric but the defense department, how is it responding to those findings? >> robin, a senior department official says they didn't know about it but a federal law enforcement official says last year a joint terrorism task force intercepted communications between hasan and anwar al awlaki. the cleric is known for encouraging muslims to kill u.s. troops. two government officials say that information was then turned over to a defense department investigator but they say they determined it was for a research paper hasan was writi

fighting to establish an islamic state to please god even by force is condoned by islam.general, do you -- and obviously this speculation but the military is most sensitive of any organization i know to any taint or allegation or impression of being discriminatory. which is appropriate. do you think that political correctness may have played some role in the fact that these dots were not connected? >> yes. absolutely. and also, i think a factor here is his position as an officer and also his position as a psychiatrist contributed to that, because of the special category i think someone who is operating as a clinician every day treating patients is in the military. it's an individual activity versus a group activity which provides considerably more supervision in squads, platoons, companies, and the like inside our units. so there is no doubt in my mind that that was operating here. but in fairness to many of the people who are associating with him, based on what preliminary research i've done, and i think what the committee is doing, i think we're going to find very clear

he told classmates that islamic law supercedes the constitution.senator joe lieberman says he'll start an investigation. >> we are investigating the murder. but i think it's very important for the army and the department of defense to go back and conduct a separate independent investigation if whether there are warning signs dr. hasan was giving of the stress he was under and the fact he had become an islamic extremist. >> president obama and the first lady will attend a memorial service tomorrow for the victims of the ft. hood shootings. 13 people were killed. we'll have some of their individual stories in a few minutes. in fact, throughout the day. >>> iran is charging three u.s. hikers who allegedly crossed into the country illegally with espionage. sec stair of the state clinton says there's no evidence to support charges against them. a hiker's family says they crossed the unmarked frontier by in addition take. >>> the debate over health care reform is moving now to the senate. but not right away. the house approved a plan late in the night sa

host: the islamic groups are not the only ones that subjugate women.true but they do. i have worked as a substitute teacher. i have seen children of homegrown terrorists in the schools. guest: it is an interesting point you raise bought the largest and most successful conversion rates for jihadists happened to be in the prison system today in terms of converts that are equally black and white who convert to islam, a radical form of islam, and then carry out acts of terrorism and become jihadsists after they leave. the largest category four converts and your pappas to be between the ages of 21 and 29. it does not mean that they are all jihadisst but some of them happen to become that way. some were german, some were swiss, some more scandinavian and some or french bread host: steve emerson is the executive director of the project on terrorism. explain that your organization. guest: this organization was founded in 1995 after i made it on the was aired on public television in 1994. i decided there was really nobody looking into the existence of these sub

people carrying out their islamic responsibility. they have apparently called blood on the streets of london. and why hadn't this group been banned as well. we got a government that wants to prevent extremism yet its money is funding extremists. we have a government that we shouldn't have extremist-led schools and yet we have those schools. and above all, when is the prime minister going to -- to describe an organization, we need evidence and that evidence is to be looked at in detail. i think he may regret some of the remarks he has made this morning. as far as our activities against terrorism in this country, we have doubled the security staff. we have doubled the number of police. we have put 100 people into prison as a result of terrorist acts since 2001. we are monitoring people who enter into this country, including the identity card that foreign people come to this country have to hold. we are using the dna database to check up on people. mr. speaker, we are doing everything in our power to deal with the terrorist threat in th

there is theish ufl whose islam or which islam? the islam i was taught and i love, my parents came here because we could celebrate and practice our faith more freely in america than anywhere else in the world. islam dr. hasan ended up practicing is one that is truly an enemy within. >> what made him turn, do you think? is it, you wait planned? what is your assessment of all that? he seemed to be a well respected army psychiatrist. and saying a few things were very iffy, i suppose, and then this happened. what do you think happened to him? >> well, i think we need to look at it as a slippery slope. for example, the alcohol, let's say, if it is drug use, substance use, ends up worsening him, and that toxin is a political ideology that hates the west. that hates america and blames everything wrong with sloimz a western conspiracy theory. and he started to fall down that toxic ideology until he broke and you saw that he was handing out korans and we can't subscribe this to just being a psychotic break. he had a political ideology. his

this is the issue -- whose islam or which islam?my parents came here because we could celebrate and practice our faith more freely in america than anywhere else in the world. islam dr. hasan ended up practicing is one that is truly an enemy within. >> what made him turn, do you think? is it -- was it planned? what is your assessment of all that? he seemed to be a well-respect ed army psychiatrist. and saying a few things that were very iffy, i suppose, and then this happened. what do you think happened to him? >> well, i think we need to look at it as a slippery slope. where the -- for example, the alcohol, let's say, if it is drug use, substance use, ends up worsening him, and that toxin is a political ideology that hates the west. that hates america and blames a theory, and everything wrong and a western conspiracy theory. and he started to fall down that toxic ideology until he broke and you saw that he was handing out korans and we can't subscribe this to just being a psychotic break. he had a political ideology. his imam that w

there are sign that is he was embracing extremist ideas about islam. his classmates at a military college say they complained what they believed were his anti-american views, including a presentation that justified suicide bombing. senator joe lieberman says he will start an investigation. >> in the u.s. army, this is not a matter of constitutional freedom of speech. if hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an islamic extremist, the u.s. has zero tolerance. he should have been gone. >> we want to take time today to remember the people killed at ft. hood, 12 soldiers and one civilian. the civilian was michael cahill. >> he worked as a physician's assistant and before that served in the national guard and army reserves. cahill's children says he was inkred i incredibly smart and loving. one of them choked up when she was asked what she would miss about him. >> i mean, what would you miss about your dad? that. i miss that. that's the thing. there's a lot of people out there that have lost their dads. what would you miss? i miss that

there is some sort of a conflict or struggle with terrorism that is done in the name of islam. i'm not particularly wild about the metaphor that suggests that military instruments, soldiers, battlefields -- none of those things seem to be right. one is for people that have made a career choice to be terrorists. we have got to stop them. the best analogy i am able to think of is disease. attack it where you can. you've got to build recovery mechanisms. we're likely to see another -- that is part of what we have to do. we have to go after terrorists in the country's -- counties. that is easier said than done as we see every day with pakistan. pakistan is a painful reminder. the bigger challenge is to get to people before they make a career choice. we want to somehow interrupted the recruiting chain because there is a limited number of terrorists. there is an unlimited number of what you might call potential terrorists. that requires getting inside the education system, getting inside the process by which religious leaders are taught and trained. at the top of the list, that inclu

instead of a medical lecture, hasan talked about islam. the power point presentation published in the "washington post," you see it here, frequently cited the koran. he claimed muslims should be able to claim conscientious objectors to prevent adverse events. >> he was communicating with a radical muslim cleric. did the pentagon know about that? >> the, cleric is anwar al awlaki. he's known for encouraging troops to kill u.s. troops. he communicated with him 20 times. the pentagon says they had no idea until after ft. hood shootings. the communications were turned over to a joint terrorism task force last year. the investigator who looked into them at that time determined they were for a research paper that hasan was writing. robin, never -- they never sent that information any farther up the chain. they dropped it. >> really interesting. richard, thank you. >> sure. >> do you remember the story of a walmart employee trampd to death to death by a huge crowd when the store opened for the friday after thanksgiving for shopping? well, new pro

there is some sort of a conflict or struggle with terrorism that is done in the name of islam. i'm not particularly wild about the metaphor that suggests that military instruments, soldiers, battlefields -- none of those things seem to be right. one is for people that have made a career choice to be terrorists. we have got to stop them. the best analogy i am able to think of is disease. attack it where you can. you've got to build recovery mechanisms. we're likely to see another -- that is part of what we have to do. we have to go after terrorists in the country's -- counties. that is easier said than done as we see every day with pakistan. pakistan is a painful reminder. the bigger challenge is to get to people before they make a career choice. we want to somehow interrupted the recruiting chain because there is a limited number of terrorists. there is an unlimited number of what you might call potential terrorists. that requires getting inside the education system, getting inside the process by which religious leaders are taught and trained. at the top of the list, that inclu

if the current crisis of leadership and islam prevents the islamic republic from coming to the negotiating table, what should the obama administration do? how will domestic politics impact negotiations? in do you expect the full senate to consider the sanctions legislation that the banking committee passed in the near future in what do you think about that? [laughter] >> okay. let me ask, let me answer last question first. one of the things they taught me is never comment on the work of the legislative branch. they will do what, they will do what they will do, so what do i think about it? i will fall back on what we always say, which i haven't seen the details of it so i really can't talk much about it but in this case it happens to be true. the issue of domestic, domestic iranian politics, how that will impact the negotiations. obviously, it will. the question about can they, can they negotiate when their domestic politics are in turmoil? that is really a question for them, isn't it? for the other side. my watch word of this is that, if you are going to somehow end the estrangement, if yo

take the group, islam for u.k. the leader of this group claims that the 9/11 bombers were magee if i have sent are are -- megan any of sent people. programs he can tell us when he replies for the last time why this group hasn't been banned as well? what people are going to see is this. we have a government that says it wants to prevent extremism, yet its money is funding extremism. we have a government that says we shouldn't have those schools, and yet we have those schools. and above all, when is the prime minister going to tell us when he is going to get a grip on this issue? >> mr. speaker, to proscribe an organization, we need full evidence, and that evidence needs to be looked at in detail in the cold light of day. and i think he may regret some of the remarks he has made this morning. as far as our activities against terrorism in this country, we have doubled the security staff that is available to deal with terrorism. we have doubled the number of police who are dealing with potential terrorist incident. we

and have remained the core elite of the islamic republic as others came and went, came and went. two things are happening to that group. one, to quote the scholar he said their average age is now deceased. [laughter] they are getting old. they are departing, but more important the consensus which has existed among this group is breaking down. and among bees insiders on his cohesion allowed the islamic republic to survive some horrific shock, such as the iran-iraq war, such as the fall in oil prices back in the 80's, such as some of the economic mismanagement that happened. that consensus seems to be breaking down. and something different is coming out of it and it's hard to tell what, but it seems to be now, instead of this ruling mends clad wall knew each other very well, many of them were related. they've been to school together, they been in prison together. the system seems to be reverting to an earlier model of rule by the gun and rule by force. and it's ironic that some of the features that you see emerging now are reminiscent of what you saw were the base of popular suppor

. >> put his islamic obsession aside. put aside hasan's apparently extremist islamic views. what this memo is saying, it's right there in the army's official credentials file as saying this psychiatrist could be reckless for his patients. he could be a danger to them, yet he kept getting promoted and as we all know he was sent to ft. hood to treat some of the most vulnerable soldiers in the army. >>> cnn could not corroborate the authenticity of the memo or reach the supervisor who had signed that. hasan's supervisor at ft. hood said hasan's past evaluations did not raise red flags about a potential for violence. it doesn't look good for california's money problems. a nonpartisan budget analyst predicts the state will face a $20 billion dech sit for at least the next five years. even so, governor arnold schwarzenegger says he has no plans to raise taxes there. the analysts suggest california lawmakers to make even more long-term cuts to state programs immediately. so how would you like to be able to drive your car using your iphone as a remote control? engineers in austin, t

preferences to what they considered to be ignorant islamic past.but you do see these elements of splendor or the quest for person splendor -- persian splendo, so it will be interesting to see if ahmadinejad is more about a powerful and that will be more about a revival. >> question over here. if we could, if the speakers could identify themselves and where you are from. the microphone is coming to you. >> i am jennifer with "voice of america." i believe you said the iranian regime was bound to fail, and he made in direct reference to social media. do you think there's a potential for social media -- i mean, this new notion of social media can actually bring down a totalitarian regime? >> of all, it is not a totalitarian regime, at least not yet. i would call it an authoritarian regime with many unique features. if it were totalitarian, you would not be seeing these massive demonstrations, and you would not see people risking their lives every day to continue to protest in the way they are. i cannot tell how iran's government is going to change. i j

the world watched as they took to the streets, posing the most serious threat to the islamic republicme struck back and silenced anyone who dared speak out. tonight, you'll hear from a witness to it all: iranian- canadian filmmaker and "newsweek" reporter maziar bahari, who was held by the revolutionary guard for 118 days. when he was released, they warned him never to talk about his imprisonment, or else! but last week, he spoke to us anyway and gave us a rare insight into what's going on in iran today. his ordeal is the cover story of "newsweek," which comes out tomorrow. peaceful demonstrations turned into riots when paramilitary members of the revolutionary guards, called the basij, came on motorcycles, wielding rifles and batons. they laid into the crowd. journalists were banned from being anywhere near the demonstrations, so people stole images with cell phones and beamed them to the rest of the world. it was to become the youtube revolution. the violence-- you'd never seen anything like that? >> maziar bahari: never. i always had a very scary image of the revolutionary guards i

the islamic government has national student day every december 7. it's monday. and there will be demonstrations despite the fact that the government has rounded up scores of student activists. everybody knows this is the day you go out on campus and for sure they will protest. and we have two days after christmas is the most important shia muslim holy day and people are allowed to go out on the streets. the iranian calendar will set up opportunities for protests. and there's nothing the government can do about that. >> question back in the back. microphone will come around. >> i have a question i guess for you both. i was struck by the comment that you felt that you were in a new iran when you arrived there in 2009, a very different iran than two years earlier in 2007 and you gave some hints. could you contrast the two a little more. and explain what you think the changes were. and i suppose from that point of view, particularly as an outsider like i am, i read things and go to lectures like this, were their signs along the way that these pressures were building

the four mosques include the islamic institution of new york, the islamic education center in texas, and two other mosques in maryland and california. president obama today extended the national emergency with respect to iran because relations, of course, with that country remain strained. >> the buildings in question, they're going to stay open an the tenants aren't accused in the case. the foundation's lawyer says that they're cooperating with the government and will challenge the complaint. >>> the man convicted in the 2008 beating death of an acre acre news anchor will spend the left rest of the his life in jail. jurors deliberated for three hours before deciding the punishment. prosecutors had asked for the death penalty. anne pressly was a morning anchor. her mom whispered "it's okay" when the verdict was read. >> there really aren't any winners tonight. nothing that's been done here will ever bring anne back. we'll never see her smile. we'll never hear her laugh. we'll never know the joy of her presence with us. until we see her again in heaven. >> vance's mother told the jury

. >> put his islamic obsession aside, put aside hasan's apparently extremist islamic views, what this memo is saying, it's right there in the army's official credential file, it says this psychiatrist could be reckless for his patients, he could be a danger to them. yet he kept being promoted, and as we all know, he was sent to ft. hood to treat some of the most vulnerable soldiers in the army. >> cnn couldn't corroborate the authenticity of the memo or reach the supervisor who signed that. they said hasan's passed evaluations did not raise red flags about a potential for violence. >>> two people were killed when their tour bus ran off a road in minnesota and fell into a ditch. all of them suffered injuries ranging from minor to critical. some passengers got trapped inside that bus and rescuers had to smash the windshield to get to them. the cause right now is under investigation. >>> you know, it doesn't look good for california's money problems. a non-partisan budget analyst predicts the state will face a $20 billion deficit for at least the next five years. even so here, governor a

hasan's killing spree is allowed under islam because it's a form of jihad. he's accused of shooting and killing 13 people at ft. hood. he's still hospitalized, by the way. >>> former governor sarah palin is busy promoting her new book. while people may be willing to pick up a copy, few are willing to make her commander in chief. deputy political analyst paul steinhauser has the numbers for us. they approve of her as an author. as president, maybe not so much. >> good way to put it. this is brand new poll from the cnn research. do you think sarah palin is qualified to be president? our poll suggests that only 28% say she's qualified. that's a troubling number if, if sarah palin does eventually decide to run for presidency. i. >> take a look at this, too, we compare it to other people. we ask other names if they're qualified to run for president. this is not a gender thing. you can see more than two out of three americans say hillary clinton, the secretary of state, is qualified to serve as president. more than the vice president himself with joe biden at 50%.

and to me, that's not islam, either. >> and you just -- i think we can all agree in a sense like this, an 18-year-old who maybe got married and then is going to live with someone, we want wisdom and compassion. your heart breaks for the decisions a child makes but you certainly want to walk with them through that journey until they make hopefully better decisions. this one is just tough to come to grips with, as we watch this tragedy unfold and you see such a beautiful girl and her life taken, so short. >> you know, her name means "light" -- and her death, these rapes from, you know, ohio to california, what do they represent but like the darkest expression of society. and i agree completely with all those people who believe that, you know, it's incumbent on us then to try to raise our kids, our boys, our men with some kind of wisdom so that this battleground cannot exist on women's bodies. >> well put. well put. we have to leave it there, asra, tam remarks jose, thank you so much for your time. coming up, one that's equally disturbing and we're talking about a 15-year-old girl accuse

. >> put his islamic obsession aside, put aside hasan's apparently extremist islamic views. what this memo is saying, it's right there in the army's official credentials file, it's saying this psychiatrist could be reckless for his patients. he could be a danger to them. yep he kept getting promoted. as we all know he was sent to ft. hood to treat some of the most vulnerable soldiers in the army. >> mean part-time we atime we'r defense secretary robert gates is expected to announce a military wide review of policies and practices to try to prevent another ft. hood. that's word coming from a senior defense official. >>> also this hour, senators are set to look into the attack and what was known before it happened. >>> also this morning, we have another important measure of how the economy is doing. money expert jennifer westhoven is here to tell us what we're looking at. jen, we're seeing more proof that the job market is really bad right now? as if we needed more proof. >> yeah. it's just the latest weekly job report. it came in, bang, the same as where it was last week. mor

but a defense official says instead of a medical lecture, hasan talked about islam. the power point presentation which was published in the "washington post" frequently cited the koran and explained concepts like jihad. hasan recommended that muslims be allowed to claim conscientious objector status so they won't have to fight other muslims. >>> president obama of course is commander in chief and this veterans day he's consoler in chief. he laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknowns today. it was poignant since the president led yesterday's memorial service for the victims at the ft. hood massacre. he paid tribute to all who serve and are currently serving this country. >> in an era where so many acted only in pursuit of narrow self interest, they've chosen the opposite. they chose to serve the cause that is greater than self, many even after they knew they would be sent into harm's way. for the better part of a decade they have endured tour after tour in distant and difficult places. they have protected us from danger and they have given others the opportunity for a

there are growing signs that he was embracing extremist ideas about islam. classmates at a military college say that they complained about what they believed were his anti-american views, including a presentation that justified suicide bombing. senator joe lieberman said that he will start an investigation. >> in the u.s. army, this is not a matter of constitutional freedom of speech. if hasan was showing signs, saying to people that he had become an islamist extremist, the u.s. army has to have zero tolerance. he should have been gone. >> we're also going to want to take some time today to remember the people who were killed at ft. hood, the victims. there were 12 soldiers, one civilian and correspondent richard lui, we've been learning more about these people, their names and their lives. for example, michael cahill. >> the 62-year-old michael cahill had worked at ft. hood for six years as a physician's assistant there. before that he was a rural doctor and served the national guard and army reserves. cahill's children say he was incredibly smart and lovin

so now we're kind of moving towards, hey, was this radical islam that was at play here. there's a lot to suggest that. first his association with on war alaqua, the radical imam who was involved with preaching to the -- at least two or three of the september 11th hijackers. he was attending the same mosque as him. and apparently had his mother's funeral at the same mosque. there's also been at least a preliminary trail of websites that he's been on. there's one posted attributable to him where he compares a suicide bomber to someone who falls on a grenade to protect his fellow soldiers. there's a lot of information coming out very quickly to show that this is someone who may have been following a very misguided version of the islamic faith, that wound up radicalizing him to this point. >> we're going to have much more on the suspect. the startling revelations. we want to remember the 13 lives claimed tragically. let's pay tribute to them right now. sglerchlts this story we continue to follow. a gruesome story. help me out here, how is a suspected serial killer a good boy

but a the think there has been a lot of changes and their state feel they're against islam as a religioni have had to counter that a address that in meeting them >>host: is it difficult to do that as a journalist? >>guest: it is. some people think we work for the cia, we are spies. they don't appreciate the wall but exist between the media and the government in this country. they do not believe we are neutral observers. i had to counter that before talking to them. >>host: the author of sisters and more. thank you so much. >>host: united states holocaust museum has undertaken a research project in book form. this is volume one of the research project on what is the project jeff? >>guest: and encyclopedia of all the different camps and get those during the nazi point* and all of the allies. >>host: how many have you found? >>guest: within the volumes, we will have 20,000. >>host: 20,000 camp's? were you surprised at the number? >>guest: yes. when i came on board in 2000 the people who created the project, historians themselves come estimated there were about five or 7,000 decide spread of

two of them come from before the islamic revolution. those are the azerbaijan crisis of 1945-1947, the oil nationalization crisis of 1951, '53 and then two come after the revolution. one is the embassy hostage crisis, the second was the crisis involving the american, american hostages in lebanon and involved in that, of course, was the whole iran-contra, whole iran-contra affair. and from these cases, from this history i have attempted to distillless sobs. -- lessons. what can we learn from these cases? what is there that can help the american negotiator dealing with his or her iranian counterpart? whoever they are? and the issue may be, may not even be political. it may be commercial, it may be, it may be technical, but whether the issue is a nuclear program, whether it's terrorism, whether it's afghanistan, whether it's imprisoned american citizens, what can we learn from these lessons of the past? and i've distilled it down to 14 points. some people call this limbert's 14 points. [laughter] some people, some journalists have called i

remember they're the ones who export shia islam. they gain all of that by showing they know how, but don't actually do it. and they avoid the wrath of the rest of the international community. what else have the newspapers reported? well, we know in june, which is by the way you can look at this online, was when the high maney power started to turn down. we know that there was a huge set of demonstrations against the regime after the elections. they are continuing the american press does not report very much on these demonstrations. i urge you to read the bbc which does. there are demonstrations almost daily and lots of cities in iran by students against the regime. hi mimi sufficiently weakened having never faced an sufficiently weakened that when the trials of the students and dissidents from june were about to start having been couched by ahmadinejad and others like people who were the dupes of a foreign agitators. they were working on behalf of a foreign agitators. no less a person of the supreme leader ali khan maney of interven

. >> do you feel the same way about islamic families doing that? to repopulate. do you think that it is god's will? for them to also do what you're doing? >> absolutely. when god said be fruitful and multiply, it was not for a specific religion. it was for people of the earth. >> i see. kathryn? >> i think there's truth to what both of you are saying. i think for families having this large number of children, i don't think political motivations really could compel anybody to raise and nurture eight children and usually home school them as well. however, in a lot of the literature of the movement, which i reviewed for my book, including rachel's book, there is a sense that in addition to quiverfull being god's will and god's law, to be fruitful and multiply and to trust god to give you as many children as you can handle, there's a secondary set of motivations written in there by the leaders, saying, if several generations of christians put their fertility in god's hands, within a few decades, we'll have a vast group of people. and we're going to be able to enact s

there is some sort of a conflict or struggle with terrorism that is done in the name of islam. i'm not particularly wild about the metaphor that suggests that military instruments, soldiers, battlefields -- none of those things seem to be right. one is for people that have made a career choice to be terrorists. we have got to stop them. the best analogy i am able to think of is disease. attack it where you can. you've got to build recovery mechanisms. we're likely to see another -- that is part of what we have to do. we have to go after terrorists in the country's -- counties. that is easier said than done as we see every day with pakistan. pakistan is a painful reminder. the bigger challenge is to get to people before they make a career choice. we want to somehow interrupted the recruiting chain because there is a limited number of terrorists. there is an unlimited number of what you might call potential terrorists. that requires getting inside the education system, getting inside the process by which religious leaders are taught and trained. at the top of the list, that inclu

there is a very small extreme wing not only by the way of islam, but there are extreme wings of other religions which are found to be deeply offensive to the vast majority of the believers of those religions just as fundamental extremism is to islam. they ought to take grave offense to this statement and reject it. >> thank you, mr. chairman. >> thank you, senator levin in. thanks for racing that last question. i agree that not only was it outrageous, but as you said, it hurts our efforts to succeed in this kwlict. the other other senators who came earlier had to leave. if the witness can stand, senator collins can stay, we will do one more quick round. i wanted to ask some hypotheticals, if i could. if the new york police department was doing a court-ordered surveillance of somebody in the city who was known to be involved in islammist extremist activities, and as part of that surveillance came across a member of the nypd communicating with that individual, what would the reaction -- let's assume first that the communications were of a religious nature, not particularly inflammatory,

some pointed out the attack goes directly against the teachings of islam. and today the army chief of staff weighed in on the subject. he told john king on our sister network, cnn, that it's important for the country not to get caught up in speculation about hasan's muslim faith. >> you know, there's a lot of speculation going on, and probably the curiosity is a good thing. but we have to be careful because we can't jump to conclusions now based on little snippets of information that come out. and frankly, i am worried -- not worried but i'm concerned that this increased speculation could cause a backlash against some of our muslim soldiers. and i've asked our army leaders to be on the lookout for that. it would be a shame. as great a tragedy as this was, it would be a shame if our diversity became a casualty as well. >> and casey added that diversity in the military, quote, gives us strength. >>> the first police officer who confronted the suspect after the shooting just had another surgery. a military spokesman says sergeant kimberly munley is in good con

blatantly acted against the teachings of islam and humanity. all right. we will of course be following this story. the owner of a convenience store near fort hood says major hasan stopped there often and in just a little bit you'll hear what the owner says about hasan and see more of the video obtained exclusively by cnn which the owner says shows him on some of his visits. we also have a live report coming up in the next half an hour. so stay with us as we continue to follow the developments in that story this hour. also coming out in just the last hour or two this morning new unemployment numbers hit the double digit mark. the october unemployment rate now 10.2%. melissa, when you look at this number, is it just a number or should we be worried? >> well, you know, it depends on who you ask of course. a lot of people are saying this does affect the psyche when you get above that threshold of 10%. it is a number that is much higher than what many analysts expected. they were expecting maybe 9.9% but now it has reached 10.2%. first time since 19

/iran relations have been hostile since the day islamic students stormed the embassy and held hostages for days. >> we certainly didn't expect it to last that long. they have said they didn't expect it to last that long but what they did, in effect, was to create a climate of lawlessness and mob rule that they and their compatriots are today. >> they hold a rally to celebrate the event. today there's something different. anti-government protesters are also on the streets and we are getting reports of clashes with police. no word yet, though, about any injuries. >>> three missing north dakota softball players were found dead tuesday in a jeep in a pond. rafer weigel has more on this story. rafer? >>> yeah, natasha, authorities had been looking for these three women since late sunday night. they are kyrstin gemar, afton williamson and ashley neufeld. investigators say they were found inside their jeep in a 12-foot-deep pond on a farm near dickinson state university. authorities think the women made two calls to friends for help. authorities do not suspect any foul play at this point. jus

. >> this behavior is not islamic, he was not acting like the muslim like every muslim i've met act. they feel they're legitimized to end the life of that poor girl. >> they say the almaleki family moved to arizona in the mid-'90s. faleh fled. he was sent there from the uk after he was denied entrance. new this morning nearly half of u.s. kids could be on food stamps at some point during childhood. a new study says 90% of african-american kids and 37% of white kids may get food stamps by age 20. it says that these kids may be at risk for malnutrition and the recession could push those alarming numbers even higher. the study is in the archives of pediatrics and adolescent medicine. >>> well, you know what, if you're flying to see your family for the holidays get online now and book that flight before the fees get up any higher. air lines are loading on another round of surcharges. jen. >>> merry christmas, natasha. more money. we already talked about the surcharges for traveling on the busy days around thanksgiving and christmas, they just doubled them. you could now pay $40 roundtrip

he comes from -- apparently he comes from a family that's an islamic family. they did not approve of him joining the army. i do not believe he had a family that he's left behind. but you know that's all going to come out as the investigation continues into this. >> with us michael board, woai newsradio. and michael board, very quickly, at first the media was told that there were three shooters, but it's my understanding there's only one, hasan. >> that's what it looks like. there is still one person who is being questioned, but several people that were questioned earlier today have already been released. it looks like major hasan was the only shooter. >> okay, everybody, we're taking your calls live. i want to go back to baby shannon's discovery. we'll bring you the latest regarding the mass shooting at ft. hood, that's killeen, texas, as it comes in. as you know, 31 shot, 12 known dead. many of them in critical condition. the hospital tonight. i want to go back right now to the maternal grandmother of baby shannon. she's with us tonight. kandis boyer, but fir

it is not islamic fundamentalism or terrorism or anything like it. the biggest question facing the united states is ourselves. it is rather whether institutions are ready for the challenge to function and tackle real challenges. i do not have the answer to that. in the past, we have the capacity of making ourselves, of dynamism. it is more a political science question as to whether our politics will allow our country to tackle the deficit, or whether politics are so entrenched that they have made these problems tragic. at the end of the day, what makes history more than anything else is people and ideas. i believe again that the child -- the trial for us is to continue to create a political process for people and ideas to proper. i'm afraid that the answer to that is not obvious. i think there are real questions about whether the politics of the united states, whether the institutions have become sufficiently sclerotic, and special interests, whether we are in a position to assert leadership. [applause] >> thank you. >> thank you for your leadership.

washington post" reports that investigators are looking for any ties here between has sxn a radical islamic leader who preached at that mosque. also, those investigators are asking for help from anyone who was there during the shooting. that may have inadvertently left the scene with evidence such as firearm residue or shell casings. 16 of the victims are still in the hospital. seven are in intensive care as well. earlier we heard from a shoulder who was shot in the hip, private first class joseph foster and his wife were asked did they ever think something like this could happen at the post? >> it's still home. i still consider myself pretty safe. this was something that couldn't be controlled. it was something that we couldn't predict was going to happen. >> we've heard incredible survival stories. but there is also the grim reality of what happens after the shootings. >> the part that was probably the most troubling was in the event that one of the parents may have been wounded or killed and having a youngster waiting there to be picked up and never getting picked up. and not being able

now the four mosques include the islamic institute of new york in queens, new york, the education center in houston, texas, what you're looking at now, and two other mosques in maryland and california. president obama extended the emergency with respect to iran because relations with the country remain strained. >> well, the buildings in question will stay open and the tenants are not accused in the case. >>> the foundation's lawyer says that they're cooperating with the government and will challenge the complaint. >>> if you were sarah palin, would your almost son-in-law levi johnston be coming to thanksgiving dinner? that's what oprah asked her in an interview that will air on monday. so here's a sneak peek. >> so one final question about levi. will he be invited to thanksgiving dinner? >> you know, that's a great question, and it's lovely to think that he would ever even consider such a thing because, of course he is a part of the family. you want to bring him in the fold and under your wing and he needs that, too, oprah. i think he needs to know that he is loved and he has the most b

november 4, 1979, islamic students held 52 american hostages for 444 days. for the opposition, the anniversary was an opportunity to reignite anti-government protests. >>> this afternoon california's inspector general released the results of a two-month investigation into the handling of phillip garrido's parole. he was under federal parole supervision for rape charges when young jaycee dugard was kidnapped in 1991. he and his wife pleaded not guilty in the dugard kidnapping case. >>> a high school senior wears women's clothing every day but when he added heels and a wig on monday, the principal said change it or go home. he's not going back to school unless his hair can go with him. >> i would like to be able to wear what i have on and wear my hair and be treated the same and have an equal education opportunity as well as others. i don't want to be segregated or sent home because of what i have on. >> a school spokesperson says boy's hair cannot go below the collar. >>> pop star rihanna speaking out for the first time about being assaulted by her ex-boyfrie

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it is a much more international islamic organization than the taliban will avert the -- ever be. so many afghans helped, specifically had a task for hoping and reconstructing the country. there was support provided for some of the most radical islamist groups. walking away from all that was a mistake that they could put forward. suddenly, all the decision making factors. there are a few. i'll voice feel it is -- i always feel it is a somewhat uncomfortable position of adding to drop a critique. factors that ship decisionmaking is what is happening in the office every day. >> if we could perhaps. if you would introduce yourself when you get the microphone. >> [laughs] the under the heading of your last remark this is professor bestad on humility i was mulling on the two one of the challenges of arguing an alternative policy review is to to the analysis to defend the alternative policy so. the if you could clarify for me and first example as i understood it was the united states was compromiseed it's a built to condemn sadam heissan in 2002-2003 because it worked with the eye rack

the city of ur is said to be the birthplace of abraham, the father of judaism, christianity and islamhis descendants are returning to a life that he might have recognized. >> alwash: this cluster behind us is a cluster of about three islands built by generations, over generations-- dirt, reed, dirt, reed. every time it settles, they add a new layer. >> pelley: and that's how they make their islands? >> alwash: yes. >> pelley: that's the sumerian creation story, that god laid down reed mats and created man, and created the world. >> alwash: indeed, indeed, exactly. it was... they took it from their lives, and you know, of course the gods lived the way they do, you know. and this is eden. >> pelley: what's happening now is sort of a second creation story. thousands of marsh arabs have returned to this land since the re-flooding began, and the ma'dan are rebuilding their islands, with a few changes that abraham would not have imagined. >> alwash: these people are restoring the marshes, not because they're tree huggers, like i am. they're restoring the marshes because they are trying to l