preferences to what they considered to be ignorant islamic past. but you do see these elements of splendor or the quest for person splendor -- persian splendo, so it will be interesting to see if ahmadinejad is more about a powerful and that will be more about a revival. >> question over here. if we could, if the speakers could identify themselves and where you are from. the microphone is coming to you. >> i am jennifer with "voice of america." i believe you said the iranian regime was bound to fail, and he made in direct reference to social media. do you think there's a potential for social media -- i mean, this new notion of social media can actually bring down a totalitarian regime? >> of all, it is not a totalitarian regime, at least not yet. i would call it an authoritarian regime with many unique features. if it were totalitarian, you would not be seeing these massive demonstrations, and you would not see people risking their lives every day to continue to protest in the way they are. i cannot tell how iran's government is going to change. i

it is about radical islam. we cannot allow rical islam to succeed in that ea. it is nlear armed. it is unacptable to us than to any our allies. how do you d that? people have miakenly thought about pakistan as a refuge r the bad guys afgnistan. it is thother way aund. think of afghanian as the place of refe and the -- refuge for radical iam in pakistan. if they are attacking as they are the northern teitories, you want the americs in afghistan holding the border and preventing escape and regrouping. that is at is happening here, a war one side of the border and the other. >> the pakistanis areaying a pretty steep price, with a daily bombgs. general petraeus, in an terview with npr, went through the leaderip of the taliban and al qaeda, by name,nd he said that they are in pakistan. >> let's talk se morebout afghanistan. >> it is noclear how an expanded military effort in afghanistan dresses the problem of taliban and aqaeda safe havens across the bder in pakistan. >> the shortfall isot a shortage of americanombat troops. it is shorte of afghan troops. >> senators richa lugar and c

of democracy in the islamic world, the relationship between military and civilçó world in t islamicall these issues are alive in pakistan like they are no where else in the world. pakistan has the fastest growing nuclear arsenal in the world today. it has more terrorists per square kill meter. world's second largest country and yet its government is teatering on the brink of collapse. pakistan is trying to make a transition from a military dictatorship to what they hope is democracy. we should support that effort with everything we do. but this is the fourth time pakistan has tried to make that transition and you have to believe in the triumph of hope over experience to believe it's going to be successful. today the government appears to have a very limited shelf life. the president may stay on as a figure head, but power is slipping away from him every day. the alternatives are not particularly bright either. we may see a return to sharif as two times as prime minister should not fill you with confidence. we don't get to choose who's pakistan's leaders. and when we have done so, we

islam and global terrorism.e was saying that comprise about half of the muslim population of america. but the forces of african- americans are left out of the media. he said one scholar was sherman jackson, the african-american scholar at the university of michigan. he was very objective and sink in this description of islam. but he is left out of the dialogue in the global war of terror and the forces are basically left out. so it gives a different perspective hmongs. host: thank you for that to a. this is greg more in somtenson'w book. he was a guest for "3 cups of tea." he was on "book tv" a few weeks ago. you can search that online. this is henry. caller: i hope it was published in 2009. host: it is fine. do not worry about it. caller: it was written by sorto. i do not remember his first name. it is a book about settle in the dutch off the island of manhattan years ago. is celebrated this year, the crown prince and his wife came to new york. it's a fabulous book. a warm. , one of the people predict at one po

this is a theology of death and islam is the theology of life. in a song, i challenge anyone to show me that this is -- in islam, i challenge anyone to show me that this is celebrated. this is a calamity. this is an aberration. we have to put the theology of life to live and humanity and t come closer to god through service. that is juxtaposed to the other. we believe that muslims will gravitate to what i call real islam. i give myself the celebrity. they would do that rather than gravitate toward something that would give misery. the muslims in the extreme fanatic john younand john royit- in the era of the fiery speakers and the pounding on tables, they take it out of context. they are intimidated and they're taken. it is my responsibility. if you want to be in islam, read the corona and do not let anyone else will you. -- read the koran and do not let anyone else sway you point. >> how can muslim organizations assure other american organizations that it is ok to monitor most loved suspected of posing a danger? this is the difference between pr

of democracy and the islamic world, the relationship between military and civil society in the islamicese issues are a lot in pakistan like they are nowhere else in the world. pakistan is the fastest growing nuclear arsenal in the world today. it has more terrorist per square kilometer than any other country in the world today. it is the world's second largest muslim country and yet its government is teetering on the brink of collapse. pakistan is trying to make the transition from a military dictatorship to something pakistanis hope will look like democracy. we should support that effort with everything we do. but this is the fourth time pakistan has tried to make this transition, and you have to believe in the triumph of hope over experience to believe it is going to be successful. today's zadari government appears to have a limited shelf life. he may stay on as a figurehead but power is slipping away from him every day. the alternatives are not particularly bright, either. we may see a return to now was sharif, whose two previous times the prime minister said not so you with confide

all of the reds, islam, and all this interaction. we have often been told, wrongly, that these are all the isolated traditions in which we shouldn't -- we should be careful about what we do with each other, or borrowing from each other. i sometimes attend a synagogue in boston, and i've noticed that the rabbi there has introduced into the worship there at the synagogue what are quite evidently buddhist elements. so for example, when they say they shalom greeting, he tells them he doesn't want to say, that would be a little too much perhaps. he says now join and we are going to say shalom. he holds that out. [laughter] >> you don't have to be a phd in religion do know that that's something of a borrowing. this is going on across the board. and i think it's a good sign. also, another major change that i see in the nature of religiousness is that the focus moving from a preparation for some of the world, although that's not completely forgotten, how one lives one's life in this world, how one makes it better. how one moves it in jesus t

in the world in the areas in dealing with islam and global terrorism. and he was saying that they comprise about half of the muslim population in america. but the scholarly objective of african americans are left of the medium. and he was saying one of the scholars was chairman jackson who is an african-american scholar at the university of michigan. and he was very and scholarly and very distinct and his subscriptions of islam. but he was left out of the dialogue on this war on terror. and so is a good book to give you a different perspective than the americans. >> host: thank you for that tip in somewhat of a related note this is greg mortensen's book stones into schools in his previous book with three cups of tea. he was a guest several years ago on q&a for the first book for three cups of tea. most recently he was on afterwards. he was on booktv a couple weeks ago. greg mortensen and you'll see that on the upcoming schedule. you can search his name on our website booktv.org. this is henry, what is your favorite book of the year? >> caller: i hope wa

of islam in america by mr. ayn rand deily coo rahman. i read the book because it basically talked about the indigenous forces of islam america such as, you know, these icons we have like muhammad ali, corrine abdul jr dee dee two -- karim abdul-jabbar and how the immigrant influence has reshaped and redirected the influence of islam in america. and that the african-american muslims were basically put out of the global aspects of this law in the world and the areas in dealing with islam and global terrorism they were basically out of dee dee and he was saying that they comprised about half of the muslim population in america. but the scholarly objective voices of african americans are left out of the media and he was singing one in particular was sherman jackson which was an african-american scholar at the university of michigan and he was very objective and scholarly and distinct in his description of islam but he left out the dialogue on the global war of terror and things of that nature and voices basically l

of democracy and the islamic world, the relationship between military and civil society in the islamicese issues are a lot in pakistan like they are nowhere else in the world. pakistan is the fastest growing nuclear arsenal in the world today. it has more terrorist per square kilometer than any other country in the world today. it is the world's second largest muslim country and yet its government is teetering on the brink of collapse. pakistan is trying to make the transition from a military dictatorship to something pakistanis hope will look like democracy. we should support that effort with everything we do. but this is the fourth time pakistan has tried to make this transition, and you have to believe in the triumph of hope over experience to believe it is going to be successful. today's zadari government appears to have a limited shelf life. he may stay on as a figurehead but power is slipping away from him every day. the alternatives are not particularly bright, either. we may see a return to now was sharif, whose two previous times the prime minister said not so you with confide

preferences to what they considered to be ignorant islamic past. but you do see these elements of splendor or the quest for person splendor -- persian splendo, so it will be interesting to see if ahmadinejad is more about a powerful and that will be more about a revival. >> question over here. if we could, if the speakers could identify themselves and where you are from. the microphone is coming to you. >> i am jennifer with "voice of america." i believe you said the iranian regime was bound to fail, and he made in direct reference to social media. do you think there's a potential for social media -- i mean, this new notion of social media can actually bring down a totalitarian regime? >> of all, it is not a totalitarian regime, at least not yet. i would call it an authoritarian regime with many unique features. if it were totalitarian, you would not be seeing these massive demonstrations, and you would not see people risking their lives every day to continue to protest in the way they are. i cannot tell how iran's government is going to change. i

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we're not at war with islam but with a certain portion of that. have to surgically remove that in order to contain it. >> larry: larry, what do you think? >> i think we're in a better position today than we were on august 1, 2001. we have a lot of talented men and women both in the military and the cia and the fbi that are working together in some areas and going out and debilitated and destroyed key al qaeda and islamic fundamentalist targets. that needs to keep up. peter is exactly right. i like to think more of managing crabgrass. it may never go away, but you can keep it from taking over your yard and creating a complete danger for everybody. some of these crazies will always be there. we've seen them overreach. when they tried to kill the staudys, they step up their efforting to against these people. when they go into tack stan and kill for pakistanis, the government helped step up the retaliation. finally we see the same in yemen. i think we're moving until the right direction. it's important to keep up not saying it's military or law enforc

15 minutes he failed to use three words that you used in the first five minutes which were global islamic jihad. to what level was this broader ideological struggle, how this resonates within the current

arena. >> in separate and disturbing interviews, both look to one man as the true living model of islamin laden. >> i love osama bin laden. i love him, like i can't begin to tell you because i haven't seen that he's really done anything wrong. i love him more than i love myself. >> what they want is u.s. forces to be defeated. for a muslim holy land stretching from china to rome and yes, they yearn for the day israel will vanish. so you would like israel to be bombed? >> do you think that is a rational comeback. >> i'm asking you. >> i would like to israel wiped off the map. i would like to see the people guided to their original countries. >> they may seem crazy to you but you are not their target audience. the fbi has assigned agents to watch them, to monitor their website and perhaps more importantly, watch those who are viewing and listening. like a young new yorker who pled guilty in a plot to blow up the long island railroad. he met with kataab. >> i know he was a good muslim. >> maldenado arrested in texas for receiving military training with somali terrorists, mahana was arreste

the country and they highlighted once again the challenge we face in coping with even identifying islamic extremists. in great britain that task would be undertaken to a large extent by mi5 and for many americans, mi5 is a rather mysterious part of the fbi, part cia but in the end a uniquely british institution. there was consideration after the 9/11 commission recommendation were delivered to creating and mi5 in this country. in the end the decision was made to expand the fbi's existing national security decision. now, to mark this centenary of mi5's founding in 1909, christopher andrew was selected to write his authorized history. that is the first time this has been done by any leading intelligence or security organization. christopher is a distinguished professor of modern and contemporary history. he is former chair of the faculty of history at cambridge university and has been a visiting professor at harvard and a frequent presenter of bbc tv and radio documentaries. his 14 previous books include the mitrokhin papers which is perhaps the major source of the secret history of the sov

guest: theç 10th day of the islamic month is very important.e prophet muhammad and 72 companions wereççç sl the desert in karbula, now iraq. this was 680 a.d. this particular event crystallized what it meant to be sunni or shia. the shiaç are the rebels of th muslim faith. they brokeç with the leadershi that had been chosen for the muslim faith after the prophet muhammad died. and they wanted members of his familyç to succeed him. first ali who was his son-in-law, then ali's son hussain. and instead there was a khalif the evil yazid who was inç chae and he went out with his powerful army and laureated the imam hussain and his followers in the desert after he firstç left them without water, so they were dying of thirst. for shia muslims this is a day and time when you recognize this event, when you celebrate the heroism of someone who was willing to go out and fight against injustice and be willing to lose his life in order to overthrow an unjustice tyrannical ruler. well, guess what. here we are six months of the proud-painted elections

the result was the islamic forces we're stopped in vienna. had they not been stopped come up what the mega miss it wanted to do was go all the way to the rhine river. had he prevailed, europe would have been at islamic to the rhine river in 1527. that is a major turning point* in history. >> host: what do your source is? >> guest: i have an office and the library of congress and that is the best library in the world by far. with this book and others of medieval history, there are contemporaneously chronicles. those are the most immediate resources and the once that are the areas of people who were there. that is what we've up 427 you talk about the correlation between 9/11 and this period in history. with this research are you constantly reminded of that? >> i have never done any history not relevant to the current day. that is a litmus test for me. and it seemed after 9/11 it was important for americans to understand they were not the first ones to have this kind of clash with the islamic world. . .

. >> it is that jihadist version of islam that allows them to conclude the killing of american soldiersrseas is justified, that the attack of 9/11 was also justified and an attack on almost any american is justified. >> americans will always be a legitimate target until america changes its nature in the international arena. >> in separate and disturbing interviews, both look to one man as the true living model of islam. osama bin laden. >> i love osama bin laden. i love him, like i can't begin to tell you because i haven't seen that he's really done anything wrong. i love him more than i love myself. >> what they want is u.s. forces to be defeated. for a muslim holy land stretching from china to rome and yes, they yearn for the day israel will vanish. so you would like israel to be bombed? >> i think -- do you think that's a rational comeback? >> i'm asking you. >> i would like to israel wiped off the map. i would like to see the people guided to their original countries where they are from. >> they may seem crazy to you but you are not their target audience. the fbi has assigned agents

does timothy mcveigh have more in common with an islamic terrorist or a christian believer? most people would say with islamic terrorists. it's not the belief that is the defining moment. that's the paint that may be present. it may be present in any situation. you start with the propensity for violence, however that may be caused. you add the background material that gives the person the basis for going forward after he or she has the propensity for violence. i'm reluctant to talk about it in that way. i think it starts with the factors that create the propensity for violence that the other witnesses mentioned in their testimony. >> thank you. i'm concerned about the place where three broad processes interact. one is failed states. people who come from failed states where there violent extremement movement and organizations and three is they now exist in migrant communities in this country that face challenges of daily life. the somalis certainly fit that. so do several other communities that we have to be concerned about. i think this is very challenging. the other broad t

preferences to what they considered to be ignorant islamic past.ut you do see these elements of splendor or the quest for person splendor -- persian splendo, so it will be interesting to see if ahmadinejad is more about a powerful and that will be more about a revival. >> question over here. if we could, if the speakers could identify themselves and where you are from. the microphone is coming to you. >> i am jennifer with "voice of america." i believe you said the iranian regime was bound to fail, and he made in direct reference to social media. do you think there's a potential for social media -- i mean, this new notion of social media can actually bring down a totalitarian regime? >> of all, it is not a totalitarian regime, at least not yet. i would call it an authoritarian regime with many unique features. if it were totalitarian, you would not be seeing these massive demonstrations, and you would not see people risking their lives every day to continue to protest in the way they are. i cannot tell how iran's government is going to change. i ju

and it's important for them to know also what the pipe dreams are of the islamic world. and who they're heroes were. and suleiman the magnificent and i've written the third crusade as well -- these are important stories to know. >> what has your eye right now in regards to your interests? >> well, i could tell you but then i would have to kill you. >> thanks so much. >> thank you. >> in his book, "the deniers," urban renaissance director lawrence solomon talk about prominent scientists who disagree with al gore's views on global warming. the event is hosted by the competitive enterprise institute and the cooler heads coalition at the dirksen senate building in washington, d.c., it's 50 minutes. >> okay. let's begin. welcome. thank you all for coming and thank you for c-span being here today. i'm myron e. bell. i work on energy and global warming policies at the competitive enterprise institute here in washington. it's also my privilege to chair the cooler heads coalition about which more in a moment. i want to begin by thanking mark morano for arranging us to have this r

it's very islamic, we are good muslims. we are not going to dig around with you.or jokes some people are saying that there's raping going on here. did you really fear you were going to be raped in this islamically appropriate jail? and this is something that obviously turned 180 degrees around when i came out of jail and i realized -- i started hearing about these allegations being made and seeing the evidence. i started doing a lot of journalism in the country in which i lived, turkey, dealing with former political refugees or people that escaped iran and some had been extremely badly abused. and then one day i was watching an interview given by the iranian feminist activist and she said she was taken into a large room like a classroom and there were maybe dozens of desks. those kind of school class kind of desks with the wooden chair and the desk that comes out in front which is all one piece. and there were prisoners sitting on those desks and they were getting very, very violently beaten up by jailers. and this whole scene, dozens of people getting beaten up w

islam and global terrorism.e was saying that comprise about half of the muslim population of america. but the forces of african- americans are left out of the media. he said one scholar was sherman jackson, the african-american scholar at the university of michigan. he was very objective and sink in this description of islam. but he is left out of the dialogue in the global war of terror and the forces are basically left out. so it gives a different perspective hmongs. host: thank you for that to a. this is greg more in somtenson'w book. he was a guest for "3 cups of tea." he was on "book tv" a few weeks ago. you can search that online. this is henry. caller: i hope it was published in 2009. host: it is fine. do not worry about it. caller: it was written by sorto. i do not remember his first name. it is a book about settle in the dutch off the island of manhattan years ago. is celebrated this year, the crown prince and his wife came to new york. it's a fabulous book. a warm. , one of the people predict at one po

so i think there are some lessons for dealing with islamic states. so i should have thought, for example, that, you know, the more interaction with iran the better. but, you know, it's a matter of political judgment, you know, how, what you can get away with and at what levels of a society you can conduct discourse. but i think the more the better because this weakens the hold of totallyist ideologies. charles? >> charles, i teach here. there are those who say that gorbachev knew how to start a process, but he didn't know how to finish it. i take it that you are less critical, and you seem to assume that he knew all along what he was doing or most of the time. if my assumption is correct, how do you explain that some of his closest advisers became as critical of gorbachev as he has? >> well, i don't think that gorbachev knew where he was going to end up, far from it, in 1985. his view has evolved tremendously, you know, from -- in his youth communist. by 1985, communist reformer, by 1988 somebody wanted to fundamentally france form the -- transform t

the islamic people -- the islamic republic of iran stands ready to foster cooperation while supportingt is ready to foster cooperation unilaterally in the organizatioautom,ization of indl resources. we are ready to develop bilateral cooperation and share the results of reserves and experiences on the use of clean energy with other countries. in this relationship, we propose to the establishment a bank or center to be transferred to china or any member country under the auspices of the convention. i hope that these -- this historical meeting will make historic agreements and respond to the needs and requirements of the international community. hopefully, this building will provide the right response to the requirements of the international community. let me express my heartfelt appreciation to the lovers of nature and human lives and to all those who express their sentiments through their auspicious gatherings and play a real role in raising public awareness of the disastrous outcome of global warming. i pray to the almighty for ever increasing success in serving humanity and divined va

dawn. -- global islamic jihad.he best proof is the president's speech in cairo. in some ways, it was addressed exactly to him. the short person is that the u.s. is now an imperialist power, a crusading power, which is trying to impose its will on the muslim world by dividing the muslim world up into small states which can manipulate -- which did can manipulate. -- which it can manipulate. what is his opening line in cairo? we are not an imperialists, colonial power. we were born in a revolution against the empire. it was a great speech. i don't think anyone disputes that. the problem is going to be following it up. the counter narrative has to be punctuated with real things. they have proceeded to do that in some places, and are struggling in others. in the central battlefield of the narrative, the arab-israeli battlefield, they are having a very difficult time. they don't have partners to work but rigid to work with, and that makes moving forward very hard. i am convinced that the understand the central role of th

you know, and i think radical islam portrays terrorism, they certainly did on 9/11. and that is -- maybe it's a matter of semantics here but i do think the ideology and the belief system, you can take, you are, out part and parcel from the act itself that i think it does begin with a police system that takes an individual to a point where the hatred is such. dr. zogby, you said it well when you said that night, what he meant was i hate you. that's what he meant. mr. hassan and fort hood. that's what drove him to kill that they. and so i think the ideology is the belief system is the beginning. of the process. and the radical belief system. and i think the great challenge we have in this country is how, within the constitution, to monitor activities of the radical ideology and radical believes, and to be able to prevent and deter that radical belief and going to next up into an act of violence. so with that, if anybody would like to comment on that. >> that was a brief question? [laughter] >> yes, mr. mr. macleod-ball, briefly, please. >> i believe i disagree with you

it is time for congress to formally declared war on radical islam is soism.t's time to declare war on al qaeda and all of its brethren. we ask for military justice. let me be the first to say i hope k.s.m and other radical islamists meet the ultimate penalty, the death penalty. i'm asking you to call, right, protest, engage your community, engage your muslim and interfaith communities to speak out against islamist islam and this radicalism and speak out against sharia law and other types of legalities at the core of denying liberty and democracy. last, let me assure you, just as you see my values as a father, husband, and citizen, as an american muslim, there are thousands and thousands of other american muslims who come out of the same dick fuld i do. we need your help. connect us together. these terrorists are real. yes, they are muslims, but there are many muslims ready to take up the challenge for a civil war of ideas within the faith. thank you for including our voices. god bless you. god bless america. we will never forget 9/11. >> ladies and gentleman,

about a global islamic caliphate. how the caller would explain what they did to us on 9/11. there is an ideology and needed to contend with and compete with that -- and we need to contend with it and compete with it. it is something different than your standard 1970's, 1980's freedom fighter terrorist group that is just trying to gain independence. that is not the case. host: back to the five arrested in pakistan -- while it appeared to of and radicalized and went to pakistan and the nest to their families come in terms of offenses -- unbeknownst to the families, and in terms of offenses, it appears that they are the gang that cannot shoot straight. they could not find the way to the context, or al qaeda spurned them. would you know about that? guest: i do not know if we can call them keystone cops said. -- keystone kops yet. this guy saifullah was not significant enough to dodge for them on his own. -- to vouch for them on his own. they are careful about making sure that only allow people from the west to come in onc

i think radical islam portrays islam.aybe it's a matter of semantics here, but the ideology and the belief system, you can't take it out part and parcel. it takes an individual to a point where the hatred is such. he meant i hate you. that's what he meant. that's what drove him to kill. the belief system is the beginning of the process and the process we have is how in the constitution we have to monitor activities of radical ideology and beliefs and to be able to prevent and deter that radical belief. with that if anybody would like to comment. >> that was a brief question. yes? briefly, please. >> i believe i disagree with your statement that it starts with the radical belief. it could come in the middle or the end. it's the propensity of violence that is the factor here. when you exercise your responsibility to examine the issues, if you exclude other ideologies and the kkk from your investigation, you run the risk of missing something that may be critical to understanding. >> i completely agree with that. . >> thank y

th've been resorting to ctics, very similar to the islamic terrorists in termof beading and videotedure and taics of that nature to terrorize eir rivals and ordinary mexican citizens an the vernment. in this case going after t fami members of a soldier or policeman is an unprecedend step and a worrime one which may suggest theyay not stop at the actual peoplfighting them but they may go after their family as well. >> woouff: how are people responded to this? >>nfortunately, many are becong inured to the violence. mex kranz really becomg sort of austomed to the bldshed. in the last year ane, there have been 7,00to 8,000 people lled in drug-related violenc and thcity right across the border from el paso, tas, has the world's hight murder rate right now bthr times more violenthan baghdad, iraq. sohere's a daily toll with th kind of violence, but at the me time, other mexicans are really shoed by this. mexican thers, in particular, hold an alted place in mexico. mother's day dowhere is taken very seriously, anthe the fact that these gs went after this many's mother is really se beyond th

i don't know that the nation of islam is on any watch list. i don't believe that to be the sfofe -- host: our last call for clark kent comes from memphis, tennessee. larry on our democrats line, go ahead. caller: good morning. i hope you let me express my opinion. what happened yesterday is fast propaganda. i really do meeve it. sfo the wheelchair snore keep on making fools of american people, these are the same people that bombed us on 9/11 host: larry, we're going to leave it there. thanks for the call. guest: i guess the the only thing eye'd say is what i said before. these conspiracy theoristser, it's a problem because every time it was believed there was a series it makes it hrt. host: we're going to take a short break. and when we come back we're going to open up the phones and find out your thoughts about the president and domestic policy priorities for 2010. we'll be right back. host: we're going to be talking about domestic priorities for the obama administration for 2010 for about the next half-hour. if you'd like to get involved unt

something new in perhaps the muslim world, emerging as a man who comes from a position of military islamhas not rescinded his ties with those who look upon al qaeda with kind eyes. the united states is now sending arms to sheikh sharif and they are providing a kind of aerial security, if you will, for his regime. and it looks like the partnership is here to stay assuming he can survive in office. he now says... he never says he was in favor of al qaeda. but he now can see that some of his former allies were extremists and he could do nothing about it. >> reporter: and how strong are those former allies? what are their ties to al qaeda or their potential ties to al qaeda? >> osama bin laden has appeared in a video lauding them and urging fellow muslims to support them. to that extent they have received the kind eye of osama bin laden. structural links are more difficult to know about. there are certainly some foreign terrorists who have taken sanctuary there. they are now doing jihadi videos like much as we've seen in pakistan and afghanistsan and did at one point in iraq, where they were

he has testified previously he is an expert on radical islam. he did some work at west point on that issue and i look forward to hearing his thoughts. >> it is an honor and privilege to be here today. i would like to keep my thoughts very informal and chat about what i have been happy -- been up to. there was a 3 minute video that showed the lord of the rings. the video showed the fellowship of the rings. it showed the good guys as them and the good guy as me. so, am i scared about this? >> no, this is guy that is typical of a group of enthusiasts that use the internet to outlet their anger and frustration. most of them will never go out and do anything, but it is the one or two out of these thousands or hundreds that do. it is identifying how you know which one will become the next person to take this to the next level? this is something that i have been struggling with. another thing is the most sophisticated pro-al qaeda journal. it is produced openly by a guy who lives with his parents in charlotte, north carolina. this is one of the most so

of islam.ter the fort hood massacre, despite what was presented as the overwhelming concern of harassment and other things, most american muslims actually asked not what was about going to happen to us but how we could help prevent the next attack and that's what we're dedicated to. it's time for congress to formally declare war on radical islamism. and it's time to declare a war on al-qaeda and all of its breathren. we ask for justice, military justice and let me be the first to say that i hope that ksm and mr. hasan and other radical islamists reach the ultimate punishment, which is the jip. -- death penalty. i ask you after this rally to call, to write, to protest to engage your communities, engage your muslim and interfaith communities to speak out against political islam as the source of this radicalism and speak out against shari'a law and other types of legalities that are actually at the core of what divides liberty from theocracy. it's time for muslims to shed denial. lastly, let me as

of democracy in the islamic world, the relationship between military and civilçó world in t islamicall these issues are alive in pakistan like they are no where else in the world. pakistan has the fastest growing nuclear arsenal in the world today. it has more terrorists per square kill meter. world's second largest country and yet its government is teatering on the brink of collapse. pakistan is trying to make a transition from a military dictatorship to what they hope is democracy. we should support that effort with everything we do. but this is the fourth time pakistan has tried to make that transition and you have to believe in the triumph of hope over experience to believe it's going to be successful. today the government appears to have a very limited shelf life. the president may stay on as a figure head, but power is slipping away from him every day. the alternatives are not particularly bright either. we may see a return to sharif as two times as prime minister should not fill you with confidence. we don't get to choose who's pakistan's leaders. and when we have done so, we

guest: theç 10th day of the islamic month is very important.680 a.d. this particular event crystallized what it meant to be sunni or shia. the shiaç are the rebels of th muslim faith. they brokeç with the leadershi that had been chosen for the muslim faith after the prophet muhammad died. and they wanted members of his familyç to succeed him. first ali who was his son-in-law, then ali's son hussain. and instead there was a khalif the evil yazid who was inç chae and he went out with his powerful army and laureated the imam hussain and his followers in the desert after he firstç left them without water, so they were dying of thirst. for shia muslims this is a day and time when you recognize this event, when you celebrate the heroism of someone who was willing to go out and fight against injustice and be willing to lose his life in order to overthrow an unjustice tyrannical ruler. well, guess what. here we are six months of the proud-painted elections and the people of iran are taking the governmentç sanctioned holidaya huge event, and they

i have said before and i believe it, the region is the epicenter of global islamic extremism. it is the place from which we were attacked on 9/11. should we be hit again, it is a place from which i am convinced the planning and funding will emanate. al qaeda may be the architect of such an attack of the taliban will be the bricklayers. taliban groups have grown bolder and more sophisticated. we saw that a few months ago in the valley. taliban forces attacked outposts. layers. though hardly a uniformed body, the taliban groups have grown bolder and more sophisticated. we saw that just a few months ago where taliban forces attacked coalition alcoves using almost conventional small unit tactics. their fighters are better organized and better equipped than they were just one year ago. coalition forces experienced record high violence this past summer, with insurgent attack more than 60% above 2008 levels. through brutal retaliation, coercing the reluctant support of many locals and challenging the authority of leaders and state institutions. we believe the insurgency has achieved

it got worse unfortunately that it led to the arrival of radical islam with a very conservative version how women should live many influenced by iran. iraqi women found themselves unable to leave the house or possibly living at -- losing their rights to the constitution, government, di vorce or inheritance or family loss of a became desperate for the future and what it might told them they never thought they would end up like that because they have a lot of rights under sadam hussain. >> you reported in the middle east for many years. have you seen a change value have been treated on the ground since september 11th? >> i think most arabs were welcoming to americans despite the media portrays them as being anti-american. but the west like iraq and afghanistan have made a lot of people feel that all americans are against the morals and islam as a religion. i have had to counter that and address that in reaching them. >> is it difficult to do that as a journalist? >> it is. there's a lot of suspicion in the middle east many think we are spies our work for the cia and do not appreciate the

of islam.fter the fort hood massacre, despite what was presented as the overwhelming concern of harassment and other things, most american muslims asked not about what was going to happen to us but how we could help prevent the next attack. that is what we are dedicated to. it is time for congress to formally declare war on of radical islamism and al qaeda and all of its brethren. we asked for military justice and let me be the first to say ksm i hope and mr.hasan and other radical list meet the ultimate punishment, which is the death penalty. i asked you after this rally to call, right, protest, to engage your community and engage your muslim and interface communities to speak out against political islam and the source of this radicalism and speak out against sharia law and other types of legality that is at the core of what divides liberty from theocracy. it is time for muslims to shed the nile. lastly, let me assure you, just as easy my values of a father, husband and citizen, as an american

they are all islamic, but they interpret islam differently. the i iranians have grossly distorted in the islamic resolution and their dictatorship, grossly distorted their interpretation of islam and used it against their own people. i don't think that is -- because they are islamic is not a problem. the problem is the way they have interpreted it and their own political ideology. their hatred towards the state of israel which we need to oppose and their hatred towards america. host: [unintelligible] guest: the trick is to get them to the negotiating table and see if it is possible to make progress. we have not even been able to do that yet. that yet. caller: >> thank you very much for taking my call. the essence of the problem with iran is that they are -- the united states foreign policy is not there, especially in the middle east. they use that, all the governments they want to stay in power. they reject american government, and use that against us. for example, on the nuclear issue, why should they have nuclear power? they are all sunni, a

an environment where groups such as the taliban and the islamic groups are growing in influence. is the current political strategy in the region short-term thinking in so far as we sustained dictatorships in asian restricting people's rights to express their traditions? i would like to ask if you agree with his perspective and do you see the logic in his argument that the region needs to be developed economically in order to turn the tide against islamic militancy. is this the way to address the region? >> i do read his books and then i go into a deep depression after i read his lates book. he has an awful lot to say. i think what i would say is, i think what we are doing, particularly in afghanistan, is reflecttive of what we need to do and that is to offer people a chance to shape their future. there is responsibility that needs to be borne by everybody and the afghan people, for example, have a responsibility to help shape their future. we can't do it for them. if we did it for them, it wouldn't be theirs. what we can do as a world is provide them a chance to shape their futur

is the editor of the "muslim observer," the director of the islamic society of nevada.s a trustee to have american federation of muslims. he is also the author of 11 books and over 700 papers and articles. a very prolific writer, obviously. he has spoken off and on on national and local media and his former vice chairman of impact. a long standing association with impact. we would like to welcome you to the panel. we were making remarks about the framework of discussion, whether it makes sense to talk about u.s.-muslim world relations rather than the u.s. relations with specific muslim communities and muslim nations. does that framework makes sense? >> thank you very much. i'm sorry that i was late. there was a show going on that they want me to be there. i decided to come here. when i think that the notion that the u.s. should engage with the muslim world precisely because of 9/11 or because of what happened after that. it is probably not very well founded in history. the relationship between the muslim world is only 500 years old. in these years, we've had a least 56

one of the plars of islamic revolutionas to free them. what people shouted on the streets in 1979, bunow we have no freedom. >> warner: anti-government protests hit their peak the days and weeks immediately after e elecon. the revolutionary guard d its militia sponded by beating protesto and throwing manin jail. after showrials for some and death sentencefor others, the crowds did diminish. anian born stanfordcholar. >> i think it's intidating to the people who we sitting the fence. they came ouin the days after the election. now that the pce of participation has gonep a bit th are back on the fence. but i n't think this is comforting news to t regime because they have w realized that they are sitting on a potential volcano. >> warner: restance is continuing with protests organizethrough text messag and twitter. the regime is fighting back the p.r.ront. 's been organizing its own pro government rallies. it's also vilifying the op i opsition with accusations ke this new one running on state allegationing opposition donstrators desecred a p

yesterday, the head of t councion american-islamic relations id the families contacted s organizationd the fbi. they'dound a farewell video om the young men with scenes of war and demandshat muslims be defended. >> i recall the deo is about eleven minutes andt's like a farewell, and they didot specify what thewould be doing, but just heing and seei videos similar on the internet, it just made me uncomforble. >> brown: in nway today, presidt obama declined to commenon the arrests. instead, he saidtwisted ideoloes" could affect young people in the united stas, especially via the internet. and ba in pakistan, police said they are still trng to learn morebout the men and ether they'd established any firm contacts witherror groups. >> brown: and i'joined now in oustudio by nihad awad of the "council on americ-islamic relation. alsoith us is josh meyer, who's covering this storfor the "los angelesimes." >> tell us a littlbit more about what concern you when you saw the video anwhen the parents cameo talk to you. where there specific thrts there? what did you see? >> well, t elements. the fi