then islam comes in and it is horizontal. ghandi was always trying to say no, like untouchable it is time to do away with this caste system so islam comes in and there is a brother hood, horizontal but at the same time the hindu caste system sneaked in so you have tribal systems with an overlay of islam and some caste systems has to do with land ownership and then who speak it is local dialect and who speaks urdu and english and educational differences on top of that so you have local people come together within the tribe, and they say okay who did what to who and they sit down and figure it out and say this is the judgment here is what you got to do. used to be everything would be settled giving young girls to the other tribe. this has been is to bed for the most part but -- this has been stopped for the most part. it is a barter system we will give you horses or money and that works fairly well but then sharia the law mohammed put in to pass fie the tribes in the saudi peninsula came over that and we are talking gave more r

you can drive outside of islam bad and they are over -- islamabad and they are over there. that i think drives it, where they are with afghanistan, so close to persia and u.s. interests there and if the u.s. leaves china, there is a road the china now and china and pakistan do a lot of business. so it is kind of the roof of asia is north of there. >> i heard senator feinstein say a few days ago pakistan is still ground zero for terrorists. >> yeah, i didn't know. i don't know there are so many wonderful people but up north, you go up into the mountains right on the boarder of afghanistan and the border some body drew it is not a real boarder, it is amazing, it is so remote and the people are really hospitable, and the brother hood of islam is sort of real and they will kind of leave you alone. how it got rooted up there, i don't really know my job was to deal with schools and education, and so on. but that is a really rugged area, incredibly beautiful. >> do you think the people there supportive of osama and why he was able to guide -- it is hard to answer that i know. >> t

>> well, islam -- islamic teaching is balanced between the economic and the wealth and the spiritual well-being. so both have to go hand in hand. and when people focus only on the economic advancements without the spirituality islam says that will take them eventually to their own direction. >> imam, you know that as this program proceeds we're going to be talking about what the koran says about jesus. >> yes, sir. >> and i think our audience is going to be quite surprised about what the koran does say about jesus. and how much it reveres jesus, while not, of course, assuming that he is the son of god. but that he is a prophet and he is a divine prophet, if a sense without actually having divinity we'll get to that? a moment. but you see opposite a gentleman that has been sitting patiently. he's not muslim, he's christian, he's southern baptist and he's a pastor here in washington, d.c., correct? >> true. >> do you have thoughts on anything we've been talking about here? notably the impact on current affluence on spirituality? >> yeah, i think in an important sense what you're saying

islamic law. you see, i'm quoting here, if people around the world want to say certain things about women, for example, being equal to men in matters of inheritance or legal testimony because these issues pertain to the very letter of the koran, we cannot accept them. of course, in iran we cannot accept these laws that are against our religion. on certain occasions when these laws contradict the very clear text of the koran, we cannot cooperate. men in general, all things considered, are productively more active in both intellectual activities and practical activities. those aspects of islamic law that are based on the very letter of the koran, the answer is, no. you can read my interview with him online. so this is, obviously, worrying that if father of our green movement is the ayatollah, despite the fact that he is, he was, you know, a courageous cleric, he sacrificed greatly for his beliefs and exposed some of the most horrific human rights abuses in iran, his idea of human rights were sort of

at that time it's all about religion and about how to practice islam. >> the sawa was the islamic awakening it was particularly appealing to someone like bin laden, who's already very religious. islamic awakening suggested we're going to create more islamic societies around the middle east. >> translator: he come from a generation of angry islamists who wanted to change the muslim world for the better. my name is jamal khashoggi. i met osama bin laden in 1987 in jeddah, saudi arabia. >> reporter: khashoggi was himself caught up in the awakening. as a saudi journalist, he spent time with bin laden in afghanistan, saudi arabia, and later in sudan. how was osama bin laden influenced by the muslim brotherhood? >> he started with the muslim brotherhood in saudi arabia. he was very much influenced. >> the muslim brotherhood was born in egypt, and again and again bin laden is influenced by egyptian ideas, egyptian political organizations, and egyptian people, and thetend to move him in a more radical and militant direction over time. >> reporter: this man, syed qutb, was an inspiration for the mus

this is not islamic law. abbas 8 >> translator: since they are not in political power, no one listens to them and they have not succeeded yet. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: the pioneer was the ayatollah who said this government is neither islamic nor republic. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: what was the reaction of the defenders of human rights to all these violations of human rights? [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: fortunately there are numerous human rights defenders in iran who worked for the advancement of human rights. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: in the last few years two resolutions have been passed by the united nations for condemning iran of violations of human rights. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: the last of which was the resolution of the human rights council of the united nations and due to the deterioration of the situation of human rights as special envoy was designated for iran. [speaking in native tongue] >> translator: we have th

. -- islamic, custom. his body was cleaned he was covered with a shroud and there's a 40 minute service. the more i think about it, the more inappropriate i think this . the people that died on 9/11, they didn't have a funeral. in many cases we didn't recover their remains. >> that is true. i think however, at least for myself, i think they made exactly the right decision to dispose of the remains at sea. and not bring them back to land and create a site where he could be considered a martyr of some sort. >> sean: do you think fear is irrational and a little misguided that we might incite or enrage, if we release the photo, we might incite, enrage if he wasn't given a proper funeral, et cetera, following islamic custom? it seems that we are overly concerned about an enemy is never going to like us any way. >> well, you're quite right in terms of al-qaeda. they are not going to like us. they are going to keep doing what they are doing and viciously as they have in the past. i think the concern that undoubte

>> regular ordinary islams are thankful he is gone from the earth and won't use the name of islam anymore. they are not the real issue. they are not the issue. it is the radical islamist groups that the government is afraid of taking head on. that is why osama bin laden is in pakistan and the government didn't do anything about it. they are afraid of these groups. until they tackle the issue of the radical groups, these governments are afraid they will get treated like the christians. then they'll overthrow the government. i think the majority of muslims are happy osama bin laden is dead. if these islamic governments don't do a better job, every time we have a major event, they are in danger. >> al-qaeda is admitting bin laden is dead and america's happiness will soon turn to sadness. should we be concerned? >> absolutely. we knew bin laden's power and probably ability to organize was waning. there were new terrorist movements and what is happening in iran is almost scarier and the fact they are the real enemy. no. 1 state sponsor of terrorism. we know how the christian minority is treate

these are not islamic glass. the [speaking arabic] >> translator: if they are not in political power, no one listens to them and they have not succeeded yet. [speaking arabic] >> translator: their pioneer was ayatollah was a hurry whose discovery meant is neither islamic republic. [speaking arabic] >> translator: and what was the reaction of the defenders of human rights to all of these violations human rights? [speaking arabic] >> translator: fortunately, there are numerous human rights defenders in iran who work for the advancement of human rights. said 10 [speaking arabic] >> translator: within the last two years come at the resolutions have been passed by the united nations were condemning iran a violations of human rights. [speaking arabic] >> translator: the lack of which was the revolution of the human rights council of the united nations and due to the deterioration of the situation of human rights, special envoy to our repertoire was designated for iran. [speaking arabic] >> translator: we have three cou

bigger and islam for basically with this message reaching the policymakers in war than fifteen states across america where laws banning shari'a the legal code of islam that some observant muslims choose to follow is being pushed through if you're practicing any form of sunni islam and obeying its religious laws and doing it not just alone but with a partner that means that you are forming a sure reorganization and therefore can be prosecuted and pay a fine and spend up to fifteen years in jail all of this many see is based on ignorance and fear of the unknown americans are sort of gradually. muslims then you have some kind of contact with with this culture about seven million muslims live in the united states a significant part for countries. still impacted by the number one terrorist even after his death as the poster boy of evil force nine eleven has gone islamophobia with means and could be well on its way to becoming a permanent stain on the human rights record of the united states is this if you're going to archie. and you know this is a kind of a really important story to tell a

that was the drive of the islamic movement in the 1980s to achieve that islamic state.se, they have failed to do so. and they are succeeding now days to -- into creating the diverse democratic state, which islam will play a role but not be the only decisive role there. >> it's hard to separate who the man is and what the myth is. one of the cnn correspondents who interviewed bin laden many years ago talked about his vanity, ironically, and that after the interview, he insisted on being able to look at the shot the that ha shots that had been taken of him and edit out the ones that were unflattering. did you get that sense? what was his personality like? >> very humble. did not like to be center of attention. did not like to be photographed. the first frach ever taken for osama bin laden for a news was taken by me. but no, he wasn't center at all. >> he certainly has changed a lot since you knew him as a younger man and the terrorist he became. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. . >> and when we come back, the ground zero imam who has been at the center of

noorkt islam and terrorism cannot be pronounced together because islam never acpts terrorism.ecause we know that when terrorists kill one person, it is equal of killing all humanity. the meang of the word islam is peace. the religion whose name is peace would allow this to happen? no, never. we wis that that-- help establishment of world peace. >> rose: therefore, you're pleased to see mr. obama take actions that... >> the fight against terrorism, i know, his efforts in anti-terror activities i know and i appreciate. and i wish that we become even more successful. >> rose: i have taken a lot of your time. i thank you very much. it is an extraordinary place here this country that you are the prime minister of. so thank you. >> thank you very much. and i would like to-- i would like to greet all of ousfrurz turkey. i hope we achieve world peace together. >> rose: thank you very much. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org

the islamic enemy is stuff of farce, they shia, sunni. they are an band of fanatic neolists and ready to sacrifice my lives because my daughters go to university, iowans hold presidential primaries every four years and because i, may god forgive, have one or more sam adams after work. with such an enemy existed for he would be at most a lethal nuisance and not the national security threat today to lesser or greater degree by iran, the saudi islamic imperialism and the movement symbolized and inspired by osama bin laden. this farcical view of american islamic enemy is, unfortunately, endemic in u.s. political parties much of the u.s. and western media and perhaps most damaging much of the academy especially in our most prestigious universities. it is my judgment that this view is almost entirely without substantiation. and if it continues to be washington's working assumption, america will slowly but surely be defeated to the loss of prestige, blood solvency and political cohesion. we will lose not because these are threats are stronger th

but islamic law is flexible. if you're at sea and the body is there, i think that it is permissible given that there are lastic interpretations based on circumstances. >> all right. representative keith ellison, many thanks, sir. >> thank you. >>> while the administration celebrates the killing of osama bin laden,there is no question that serious domestic issues also top the agenda. among them, gas prices. we'll talk with a senator up next who wants to know why prices are so high when oil companies are bringing in record profits. ♪ got brass in pocket... ♪ gonna use my, my, my, imagination. ♪ the new blackberry playbook. ♪ cos i'm gonna make you see ♪ there's nobody else here, no one like me. ♪ small enough to take anywhere. powerful enough to take you everywhere. ♪ i'm special ♪ so special until the combination of three good probiotics in phillips' colon health defended against the bad gas, diarrhea and constipation. ...and? it helped balance her colon. oh, now that's the best part. i love your work. [ female an

they say it was handled in accordance with islamic tradition and had to be done within 24 hours. >>> we'll have the very latest on the death of osama bin laden and reaction arbdz the country. but first we're going to check the forecast with meteorologist tom kierein, who tells us more about what the day is going to look like. >> yeah. a lot of cloudiness around. yesterday we had sprinkles on sunday. we had a few overnight. we had a few sprinkles around northern virginia, maryland, the districtment they're headed off to the east. clouds lingering by 9:00. we'll still be in the 50s right now, low and mid-50s. sunrise is now about nine minutes away. and we have the first light of dawn showing up on this gray monday morning. now you will need an umbrella and light jacket perhaps today as we have a slight chance of an additional shower this afternoon, a little sun may break out midday. highs reaching near 70 degrees. a look at night planner in 10 minutes. how is the monday morning commute? >> tom, good morning. chopper 4 on the job for us in maryland along i-95 where it meets the capital

i can't agree islam is not a thing to be afraid of the only way to promote islam is to make people see the beauty of it if they are scared of it they will refuse it but since the one nine hundred ninety s. more extreme forms of islam thought to come from outside russia i think growing in influence university staff are concerned at how impressionable some students have proved to be they say the region's muslim majority was not be made to feel alienated we need. to speak more about islam to show russian federation our government our constitution all wars are they. and i think against islam as itself radical islam isn't thought to have arrived in the region until the second chechen campaign started in one nine hundred ninety nine since then although widespread fighting has gone down the methods of small extremist groups bombings and shootings how cool it for the question nervously asked here now is where the radicals ideology and methods are ones of desperation of growing confidence to loss of property. you know as violators information our own background on russia's fight against terrori

has become a talking head about terrorism islam issues on several major t.v. networks here. this is the problem when you hear this love most potent at the moment i get killed you want to tell you. quite the opposite. of what this is the english language you juggle five years old going to school reciting the song all the schoolchildren so i get out of it but no you know that laughter which means a lot of jews are dogs that in aisle of the holocaust is the premise of this education palestine has become sort of a psychosis and away this is why we have the us and i was escalated to the point that it's growing its tentacles all throughout the middle east. now those are just a few many interviews talking about the dangers of islam but in recent months the media's been digging more into his past and his radical statements on islam and what they're finding is quite interesting first of all claims that when he was sixteen he was recruited by the p.l.o. to carry out an attack on a bank and he was supposed to detonate a bomb in the doorway of that bank but he claims that

that is how early and are deeply embedded the nation of islam was, the fbi was in the nation of islam. so, you know, that raises some of the questions that i think dr. marable asks us about, what more can we learn when these files grow gradually as they become more and more available. and then, of course, much of what the babel is redacted which means people's names and certain identities are crossed out are blacked out, and so as a scholar you kind of have to corroborate with other materials. the fbi would have certain reports on meetings that malcolm had where we could come we could corroborate those reports with newspaper accounts, oral history come with other accounts and try to figure who they were talking about when they were redacting. these are some the things we still have to learn about malcolm x. but i think this makes a a significant tradition towards that objective. >> the subtitle, a life of reinvention, where did that come from? >> this comes from -- unit, malcolm went through several stages in his development. he was born malcolm little, and throughout his life, you kn

profiling a muslim the islam a phobia and discrimination you know and then we become the victims of what we're going to discuss it was a horrible situation really it was devastating it was humiliating and it was just it's unthinkable that one would go to this in america you know. and so that's what we felt and experienced it was just again with this horrible really and why do you think there's been a bigger deal maybe that's why hasn't this been all over the mainstream media all day i mean these were two separate instances it wasn't just a one off thing i mean what i want to know what your lawyer thinks and why because you're representing both cases why hasn't there been more attention paid to this you think. that's correct lauren lauren you know before i answer that this is a civil rights discrimination issue. plain and simple and both american airlines and atlantic southeast airlines until this day have now offered any explanation as to why the new moms were removed from the flight they were just kicked off based on their appearance that all of that were left with in fact when the pilo

it is not all of islam. it is not all muslims. but there is a subgroup who believe it's okay, in fact, it's their plan and design to kill innocent people. the first order of business of the united states federal government is to protect this country and the american people [applause] >> the people and the mind-set that killed 3,000 of our fellow citizens on september 11, 2001 would have killed 300,000 or 3 million or 30 million. we need to do everything we can to make sure that doesn't happen -- i support enhanced interrogation techniques under limited circumstances. >> let me ask you all directly -- this is another raising of your hands. you didn't answer this specifically, congressman paul, raise your hand if you would support a resumption of waterboarding under any circumstances? >> under circumstances? >> under certain circumstances? >> certain or any? >> any circumstances you could imagine, not all? [cheers and applause] >> just to be clear, the three of you under case-by-case basis would support waterboarding. congressman, y

he promised to "avenge the killing of the sheik of islam." we're also finding out this morning that bin laden's body has already been buried at sea. a u.s. official says that is in keeping with islamic tradition that calls for a burial within 24 hours. osama bin laden's death came after a 40 minute fire fight at his compound in pakistan. it happened in abbottabad. the video you're looking at shows the compound on fire shortly after the raid. u.s. forces reportedly shot bin laden in the head during that fire fight. it's believed bin laden has this compound built about five years ago specifically so he could hide out. now the white house says they found out about this compound earlier this year. >>> president obama announced the killing of osama bin laden in a dramatic white house speech last night. >> tonight i can report to the american people and to the world that the united states has conducted an operation that killed osama bin laden, the leader of al qaeda and a terrorist who's responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, wome

where islamic are girls have a lot of cards to play but islam about also is in a bind its internal security situation is inch tasher it's there are terror attacks all over the country and the us drone strikes in the tribal belt and now crossing over into abbottabad and carrying out a unilateral military operation go against the sentiment of a population that islamabad has to take into account this is a democratic government. also the entire u.s. . sort of agenda against the intelligence community in pakistan the strategic intelligence community in pakistan has been a great talker against a background of these strikes which are considered aggressive by the pakistani population so rather than giving the democratic. community in party star a chance to actually reset the relationship internally between the civil and the military and redefine it for all times to come it has made them come to the aid of the intelligence community to to cry to protect them because the intel is the people of pakistan are also the same or kenyan they think this is a conspiracy against pakistan they're trying to cut

bin laden was given an islamic ceremony that lasted about 45 minutes., today, white house press secretary provided a narrative of these controversial events. >> aboard the uss carl vincent, the burial of osama bin laden was done and the deceased body was washed and placed in a white sheet. it was placed in a weighted bag. a military officer read prepared religious remarks, translated into arabic by a speaker. the bard was placed on a prepared flat board and the deceased body eased into the sea. >> there is video of the burial and it may be made public. but critics are most angry about the ceremony itself. now, my next guest call its a case of sensitivity gone too far. now, south carolina republican lindsay graham. welcome back to the program. >> thank you, sean. >> i agree with you. sensitivity -- 45 minutes! his body's cleaned. he is put in a shroud. it is translated into arabic. i don't see the victims of 9/11 had the consideration from this evil murderer. why would we do this? >> beats me. i don't think he was a good muslim. i don't think he was a go

islam called me to tolerance. i am against killing of innocent people. >> in my opinion, i do not agree. i am very sad. >> one thing that nobody thank osama bin laden for was the terrorism. this is what makes the revolution which took place in this square so important, because finally, there was something that egyptians and arabs achieve double world admired. they will be hoping that the death of osama bin laden does mark a turning point where they can escape from the war on terrorism, the way it tainted them, and the way it altered the needs of u.s. foreign policy. >> you are watching "bbc world news." a critical development in the fight against terrorism. osama were shot dead just a few hours away from the capital of islamabad. well, for many in the west, millions, particularly in the arab world. he was a hero. our world affairs editor looks back and a man with a 25 million-dollar bounty on his head. >> for an entire decade, his was one of the most famous faces in the world. they're wondering what indeed had hap

in this country but around the world joining us for more is eunice abdulla mohamed she's alast of islam policy dot com and eunice i know that you are in morocco right now so i just want to get a sense from you i mean is this something that people where you are is this something that they're paying attention to that they care about and if so what do they say. well i think with today's speech we can definitely say that obama has officially lost its cool whether that's the arab street or anywhere in the world it was very pathetic display not only a condescending message to muslims in general but it was very threatening saying do as you're told if not there will be consequences giving the carrot and letting it known that there was a stick to follow if things were not adhered to and very much belittle the intelligence of people in the muslim world like in morocco for example arabs are not fact stupid americans that have no clue about the historical reality of the american empire people here are not deceived by the fact that barack obama didn't address any of the realities for example the fac

there's bad islam and good islam, good christianity, bad christianity. good religious people, bad religious people. from god's point of view from my readings, there's only heaven and hell. only those who receive god's approval and disapproval. there are good americans and bad americans. there is an american ethic which represents the highest of american values, and there is those fears that represent the worst of american's fears, and fdr taught us that we have nothing to fear but fear itself. fear is the thing we need to eliminate from our vocabulary of action and replace it with love which is jesus taught us to represent. he taught us to love, taught us to love our neighbors, your enemies rather than fear them is the transformative action that remits the high -- represents the highest possible instinct of the most perfected human being. this is the ethic that presents the highest dollars of our faith traditions. there's something i wrote about in my book which can be described as a common ethic to jews, christians, and muslims who may recall to make it

islam is not in politics that much. but a fight between modern, communal society and an economic boom of a newly emerging modern society, that's what we are seeing. and most of the ces this fight is being waged around democracy, free speech, open society. these-- . >> rose: but does turkey prove that country can be islamic? >> plural, secular, democratic? >> that's what we are trying to prove, sir. but just because at we haven't reached that-- these ideals, doesn mean that you sense that this is possible, is a vein thing. i think, i strongly think that turkey will be soon a full democracy. it is not now. and it has grown in full p powerful economy. but it's not, it's all the way. but we shouldn't-- we should be alarmed and very attentive. but we shouldn't lose our self-confidence in its direction. >> rose: you have been eloquent about the arab spring. >> when i was in cairo last year, just as 234 my childhood it kur:turkey, everybody was trashing mubarak, once you realize there is no dictate ter, no muir barack, citizen

over the last thirty or forty years has it grows and develops the so-called enemies of islam have to come out against it it's doing no harm to anybody but in order to justify it so pressured of muslims it has to have a nine one one and bin ladden has nothing to do with it if he was there that's fine but that that has nothing to do with it bin laden was actually their employee that's their friend he had nothing to do with us none of us knew him and none of us had anything to do with it and the muslims in america and i would say very good muslims are law abiding citizens and they don't deserve this type of. as i said on your program before i believe the muslims today are treated the same way jews were treated in nazi germany adolf hitler had to justify what her name and i mean all i hear is not like anyone is going hard in a way that concentrates here in the usa of the world what about all of these entrapment what about all of these cases if you ok there is a difference in reporting the news and living it you see we live it every day so if if you have to report on this and you will hav

they tried to say they represented islam but they didn't. so i think it's good that both president bush and president obama have re-stated that or made it clear in past statements. >> c.a.r.e. has come up with its own list of anti-terror initiatives and ways to go about our business in our day-to-day lives. can you tell us about the initiatives and what is the message is from c.a.r.e. as america's largest muslim organization. >> it's the rejection of religious extremism, we've had television public service announcements with that message, we've had an online petition drive called not in the name of islam. we've coordinated religious rulings against extremism and so we're trying to do every day whatever we can to put the message out there. >> thank you for joining us today and again there is a news conference later today. we appreciate you joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me. >>> 7:38 on this monday morning. we've seen strong reaction to the news of osama bin laden death in new york. large crowds gathering at world trade center a

bush's senior staff and currently a professor at georgetown university and in islam about because the shop i view is a risk and security analyst all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want but first let's take a look at some of the issues and opportunities facing president barack obama when it comes to afghanistan. more than a week following the killing of al qaeda leader osama bin laden the question that is gathering steam is whether the u.s. will now change its war on terror strategy a decade of chasing the specter of bin laden has marred the u.s. in a war against an enemy that is state less and it seems ubiquitous without gracious and afghanistan iraq pakistan and yemen the cost of the war on terror and mounts to a staggering three trillion dollars the death toll is the call to estimates but hundreds of thousands of afghans iraqis and pakistani civilians are believed to have lost their lives and most of all we're making progress in our major goal or central goal. that is disrupting that despairingly we are going to ultimately defeat ok

do not do anything against islam as itself radical islam isn't thought to arrived in the region until the second chechen campaign started in one thousand nine hundred ninety since then although widespread fighting down the methods of small extremist groups bombings and shootings how can literally sit and question nervously asked here now is where the radicals ideology and methods are wants and desperation or growing confidence of our subsea. for now with the latest updates and background information of russia's fight against terrorists on our website r.t. dot com. think of such operations will continue until we have eliminated the terrorist underground in the republic online tonight we speak to the president of pakistan one of the region's facing ongoing militant attacks you can hear much more from him at r.t. dot com also whatever the stories as well my culture attention the multimillion dollar satellites that crashed in the pacific ocean also crashed the grid of russia's top space saying time have a look at our that story develop online backstory for you plus you should understand t

president of the islamic leadership council of new york and his attorney mo is libby from the unit united it firm of carolina law and that is going to do it for now for more on the stories we covered go to our t.v. dot com slash usa and follow me on twitter at lauren lyster until then until tomorrow have a good night. issues the same up charge for your boss there's taliban with the killing of osama bin laden u.s. president barack obama has a historic opportunity and chemistry will he use it and what is the downside. me eat. alone. bringing you the latest in science and technology from around the world. the future of covered. download the official m c allocation show on phone on called touch from the choose ops to. love life on the go. video on demand. little girls and r.s.s. feeds now in the palm of your. machine on. a timer here broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture. the mission is free cretaceous free in-store chargers free arrangements free risk free. free. download free blog. video for your media project c.e.o. don carty dot com. keep. looking. a li

now we have to unite in islamic brotherhood. that's very dangerous in the united states. so much at stake and on the table now. >> alan, do you believe as jack does the terror threat level of the united states may have to be elevated? we may all have to be watching more closely in wake of death of osama bin laden bin, that if he really does become this martyr figure and it does sort of motivate some of these crazy people to try to create harm here? >> i think that's right. i think not much we can do about that among some fa nat cal followers he will be -- fanatical followers he will be seen as a martyr. we'll want to blame his death upon american assassins and this is going to be a period of great danger. i also agree with jack this is a period of extraordinary upheaval in the middle east. it reminds me a bit of the period at the very end of the 1980s, the great upheaval that led to the end of the soviet empire and liberation of eastern europe. george h.w. bush deserves a lot of credit, you know. communism ended. the satellite states were liberated without really anyone f

there is bad islam and good islam and bad christianity and good christianity and bad and good religious people. from god point* of view from the reading of the q'uaran and scriptures, there is only heaven and hell. those who receive god's approval or disapproval. those who live well as good or bad americans, the american ethic that represents the highest of values and those that represent the worst and fdr taught us we have nothing to fear but fear itself. and we need to eliminate that from our vocabulary for what jesus came to teach us. the fact he taught us to love our neighbors and enemies rather

back into the islamic world. and to use islam to fight it at the committee level, at the provincial level and at the national level. >> what do you mean? >> which means to help people understand that what is being purveyed in the name of islam, by these groups in the heartland of pakistan, is not islam. it doesn't fit in with the teachings of the koran or the prophet, but there is another way of looking at religion and using it to improve their lives. and that brings me to the final point which is, unless we support good governance in these countries, all is lost here if we continue to work with autocratic regimes and look the other way because they are serving other business, we have defeated the whole enterprise. >> i just wanted to piggyback on that a moment and say if you look around the world the last 30, 35 years, the iranian revolution and regimes that have actually actively propagated this idea of islam which is at odds about it is practiced by most people, the three come to mind are, in fact, pakistan, s

obama made a distinction between islam and al qaeda. >> our war is not against islam. bin laden was not a muslim leader. he was a mass murderer of muslims. >> meanwhile, as details of the raid emerged so did moral questions about the bin laden mission. joining me with more on all of this is our managing editor kim lawton and ambassador akbar ahmed, a former pakistani diplomat, now the chair of islamic studies at the american university in washington. akbar, welcome. kim, welcome. akbar, let's start with the popular reaction in the muslim world. >> bob, the reaction to bin laden's death tells us a lot about what's going on in the muslim world. there have been threats, there have been some explosions, people were killed in pakistan. there have been processions being taken out by the religious parties mainly, but what it's telling us is that over this decade from 9/11 the leadership model of bin laden has become almost irrelevant. you're seeing this revolution sweeping the arab world. it's being led by young people wearing jeans, and facebook, twitter. they want an inclus

president obama has made it clear this is not a war with islam. >> denied a local islamic leaders reacted to the death of osama bin laden. he shared his the concerns about the perception of muslims right here in the united states. >> mohamad is with the islamic society of baltimore. he says while it is great to celebrate this victory, we should not let a cloud the bigger picture. it is a center for prayer and education, but here at the islamic society of baltimore, you can also find opinions on many issues, including the war on terrorism. mohammad is the vice president of the isp. he considers the killing of osama bin laden and a firefight a symbolic victory. >> we are praying for the sense of comfort and security. because of that, this is good that it makes people feel more relieved that finally the head of that evil has been chopped off. but the thing is, the rest of the evil is still there. >> he remains cautious and concerned. he worries about what he calls inherent problems in the middle east and elsewhere that did not go away with the death of bin laden. >> the bigger picture is, ge

a loss or influence in the country ok if i go back to islam and so i guess it's all about who controls afghanistan not the afghans themselves are never mentioned in all this it's going to come from islamabad where it's going to be washington ok and they have their puppet there is karzai that they want to support so i mean what is the vision from the pakistani establishment with how do they want to see the americans leave destabilizing the country even more. you know the pakistani establishment. has clearly shown his preference for the establishment of a trade corridor through afghanistan connecting to pakistan connecting to the arabian sea and they want it done in an atmosphere of peace and tranquility and harmony between all the stakeholders in all the states in the region they want friendly government in afghanistan they want a friendly government in india and of course friendly governments in central asian states that connect afghanistan. in this entire matter pakistan does not see the us helping the us has done absolutely nothing to. sort of bring about a more harmonious relationsh

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