political islam. islamic state. not just isis. all forms of the islamic state. why? we are at the same time in history as christianity when it fought back against theocracy, we need thomas paynes and thomas jeffersons. to say they're unrelated. the attacks on free speech in france. today, a blogger, raif bedowe was whipped by the saudi government, he had a website similar to ours. these are not unrelated. not just the violence. as long as we have the narrative about violent extremism. we are not going to win this. >> did you say all of islam? >> no. no, it's a large political movement. the muslim brotherhood for example. won, 30%, 40% of the vote in egypt. one year of opening up society did more to defeat islamism than 60 years of nasir, sadat, and mubarak. same in tunisia. they within the election. but got rejected. the west is missing in this. muslims are too busy, we're being victims, islamaphobia, and bigotry. not dealing with theology. not talking about the drive of kill the apostates, women get second-class, third-class citizenship, no equality. islam has to be

to combat what they call islam-o-phobes in america., jacqueline backer, at the height of her career is one of europe's leading pop culture icons converted to islam. she is a speaker at the conference. and rikel, an american muslim writer and activist who focuses on women's rights, democracy, and individual freedom. all right. good evening. christiane, you say the goal of the conference is to discuss the mercy, gentleness, and compassion of muhammad. if that's the case, why are people in paris killing in the name of allah? >> very good question, because they don't follow prophet muhammad's teaching. what they did is a crime against humanity that defies all islamic values and prophet muhammad's teaching. >> what is the purpose of the conference? >> the conference is "a" to celebrate prophet muhammad's life. he was born in this month, so it's a celebration of his life, his mercy, his teachings. and it is also to raise funds for a media response center in order so that muslims can respond in a professional manner in the media when they're

there is one commonnallity, the word islam. yet the president won't say islamic state. what happened to fort hood? allahu akbar is workplace violence. why this reluctance and resistance to say islam? >> it seems the president thinks and the administration thinks if they say something islamic, then they will be at war with the entire islamic world and right wing racist vigil anti-ies will victimize people in the united states. both are hogwash. what's happened is we have effectively gone ourselves into a position where it's forbidden to speak about the motives and goals of the enemy and you can not possibly defeat an enemy that you refuse to understand. >> the radical imam, i said is islam a peaceful religion? he said no. it's about submission. is that the interpretation? how many people are we talking about? >> the word islam means submission. it does not mean peace. it's related to peace. but it means submission. it not only means submission to god, it means submission of the non-muslims to the muslims. it is a political system that mandates that they have to live unde

in each instance the word islam, but yet we -- the president won't say islamic state. what happened at fort wood allah akbar is workplace violence. why resistance to say the word islam associated with terror. >> if the president thinks and administration thinks something is islamic they will be at war with the entire islamic world and right wing vigil antis will kill people in the united states. both are hog wash and nonsense. we have gotten ourselves into a position where it is forbidden to speak about the motives of the enemy. you cannot possibly defeat an enemy you refuse to understand. >> i had andrew chowdery on the radical imam. he said is it a peaceful religion? no. it's about submission. is that the interpretation? how many people are we talking about? >> the word islam means submission. it does not mean peace. it is related to peace. it means submission. not only submission to god but submission to the non muslims to the muslims. it is the political position that they have to live in a state of sub oord nation. >> that's exactly what he said this week very ope

the peoples of the islamic faith. in fact he and i both share this great hope that people can stop hating each other and can work together for a common purpose. and i thank you so much for coming here. and i repeat again my life is a very small thing and not of great worth. if i can somehow offer my life up, i would pray that my son please be released because that would be a very very small sacrifice on my part. i believe as i've said repeatedly that my son is very kind and has worked hard to try to create a better world, crete a better future to create better conditions for children. and i think if he is released and allowed to work he will continue to offer great contributions to the world. again, the islamic people are not enemies for my son. he is so interested and so devoted to learning more about and participating in the islamic world that he abandoned his two-week-old baby to fly to islamic nations. japan has had a long and difficult past after the end of the war. it's the only country in the world that has bee

are, the true teachings of islam, that's islamic and muslim. if you want to adhere yourself to islamic and muslim, follow the path of intolerance and submitting to government, loving mankind. that's the distinction, let's call islam what the philosophy of what its teachings are not what the radical lunatics call it. >> what you're saying is the issue of jihad is something that's foreign to the religion of islam? is that a yes or no. >> that's a conversation to have. >> i'm sorry? >> so islam is a rich faith, the diverse that talks about how to increase relation to god. >> no, no. the question that i'm asking you is very simple. harris. excuse me, harris. the question that i'm asking you is very simple and that is, you were saying that in the religion, in the islam muslim religion there is no call for jihad? >> that's what i was trying to clarify, that jihad is an islamic concept which talks about the struggle to follow the path of islam to increase your relation to god and to defend religious freedom. that's the misunderstanding amongst many mu

islam promotes this or islam prohibits this.these are nonsense phrases. islam is what a muslim says islam is. and a muslim is anyoneho declares himself to be a muslim. so yes it's true. isis is muslim, yes it's true that "charlie hebdo" tackers wre good muslims. but it's also true that the people who are fighting isis are also muslim. the people that isis is attacking are muslim. the people who support isis and the people who argue against isis are muslim. so what does this actually say about isla not that much actually. >> rose: so this is to the about islam, this is about what? >> it'sbout individuals. it's about the way in which people interpret their faith. the way that they navigate their faith in a modern socty. how they reconcile their values and their beliefs with the realities of the modern world. and whether they can reconcile those values and beliefs. it has religious roots, but it also has cultural and ethnic and naturallistic roots. all of those things need to be wrapped up in any nversation that we have about the r

they were carried out aqap a rival group of islamic state, and resulted in the spread of islam phobia so-called, in europe. it is very important for the japanese government to fight islamic state, and terrorism. but at the same time they have to make clear that the government and the people always stand behind islam and muslims, and have to continue potential islam phobia in japan. >> mr. hosaka thanks very much. >> thank you. >> tsuji hosaka senior fellow at the senior institute of economics japan. >>> thailand's military selected interim parliament has found ousted prime minister yingluck shinawatra guilty of dereliction of duty. it's been holding an impeachment hearing in bangkok. we have a report from bangkok. >> reporter: the resolution bans yingluck from political activities for five years. she won't be able to run in a parliament election expected to come next year. the national anti-corruption commission accused the former prime minister of dereliction of duty for huge financial losses caused by her flagship rice purchase program. the national legislative assembly found her gu

islam makes it crystal clear that no compulsion, no matter what the situation may be in islam, islamfreedom, justice and equality. >> does it really offer freedom as practice under sharia for women, for gays, for lesbians, for apostates? as it's practiced in iran and saudi arabia, is it really freedom? is it being practiced? because that's not the case. you know that and i know that. that's not freedom. >> pakistan -- >> if -- you cannot in pakistan it's blasphemy if you insult the prophet. >> sean, what people practice in a lot of these countries and what islam is they're two different things. >> so you disagree with how it's practiced? >> i disagree in many instances the way it is practiced. and i'm saying that islam is freedom, justice and equality for all humanity. no matter what your mode in life is. doesn't demand anything of you. you have to demand it yourself. >> 25 no-go zones, separate sharia courts, prayer rugs -- muslim prayer rugs in most hotels in paris. a growing population they've taken in for muslim countries. did they make fundamentally in france a mistake by a, all

they were carried out aqap, a rival group of islamic state, and resulted in the spread of islam phobia so-called, in europe. it is very important for the japanese government to fight islamic state and terrorism, but at the same time you have to make clear that the government and the people always stand behind islam and muslims, and has to contain potential islam phobia in japan. >>> china's vice minister for public security says more than 300 chinese have traveled via malaysia to join islamic state. the communist party affiliated newspaper global times says one reported that claim to malaysia's home minister. the paper says mung asked the malaysian government to help prevent chinese from joining the group. the article also quotes an expert as saying the chinese recruits plan to return home and commit terrorism. leaders in china are cracking down in terrorism. they've seen a string of bombings and killings. they say extremists from the uygur ethnic minority could be training abroad ready to stage more attacks back home. analysts say the chinese government appeal for foreign help could b

and islamism, or islamic extremism. don't have the figures but there are obviously millions, hundreds of millions of people a practice that faith peacefully. they may support terrorism but that is an important distinction to make. i mean indonesia is the world's largest monarch democracy, over 200 million people. certainly we can't ascribe the ease-of-use to the the majority of people living in that country. i think that's the case -- described these views. i think that cities are many countries around the world. we have to be careful in distinguish between those who seek to use violence against civilians to enact their political agenda, islamists, and the meaning, if not most people who identify as muslims and don't support similar tactics. i don't think that you can say that every person who is a member of the muslim faith is a potential terrorist. >> i think also if you look at just law of sheer numbers if there's a billion muslims in the world and only 1% of them are sympathetic, you're talking about 1 million peopl

the answer to islamic violence is islamic peace, the answer to islamic bigotry is islamic pluralism. which is why i put the onus on the muslim community. but i recognize that work is being done in divorce of condemnation -- and the voice of condemnation is deafening. >> the issues with europe as was local is that it is -- well put is that it is difficult to navigate the cultural trend of the continent. it europe does not look like it did 50 years ago thanks to ross migration and the pourousness of the borders of the european union. there is anti-islamic sentiment that has gripped large parts of europe and has led to the rise of neofascist national parties like ukip in britain and the national friends and friends, -- national front in france, who will be emboldened by the terrorist attacks. why i said that is that we have tended to as the result of this tragedies retreat to preconceived positions, be it the muslim notion that europe is apparently anti-muslim -- through monthly anti-muslim -- viralantly anti-muslim or the idea that muslims are a fifth column. my idea is that for there

the american's discomfort is they do not want to use the word islam or islamic, and i understand thatmpathize with it. but this radicalization or totalitarian ideology is completely derived and distorted out of our beliefs. so you can say it is separate, but it is not without a relationship. the two are together but interrelated and apart. we're living in very complicated times. and there are no simple answers to these complex questions. but seeing the white house representative not being able to say or other deputy spokespersons not being able to say this makes me feel we can't even name the beast we're facing. >> you know, when you listen to what el sisi has said in egypt. >> yes. >> where he talks about how outraged he is about the destructive nature of what's going on in the name of islam and he calls it out very clearly, i was also watching the mayor of rotter dam in the netherlands and he used very strong language to talk about if you're not happy with freedom, then you need to find another country. he is very outraged. and they're so clear in how they're looking at it and what

you can't accuse me of islam phobia if it is not about islam.muslims can join in and murdering these fake muslims because they are fake murderous muslims. if they don't and can't condemn these terrorists then they by that admission are linking their religion. if they do not condemn the terrorists they are linking their own religion to terror. and the moment that they say you are right -- right now they have ben affleck disorder. whenever an attack occurs they condemn those who condemn. >> i saw a piece today that said i'm an islamophobe. how can you possibly not call these islamic terrorists and you are making us the enemy. we are the enemy. >> the one thing is isis can add it to their resume -- talk about that. >> we found a video that a terrorist from paris said we want to attack america on their shore. we have also now this afternoon central command twitter account was hacked and youtube account was hacked and said american soldiers beware. we know who you are and we know your addresses. it goes beyond just hacking. it is literally threats ag

islam. the word in arabic is islam. but a lot of westerners because the words sound similar they think sa lam is peace. they are very wrong. it is submission to islam and nothing else. >> we can look at america france great britain, libya kenya, smolomalia, iraq, afghanistan, i can't even name all the countries, violence in the name of islam. and yet there's this denial constant nonstop denial. why? >> well, that's a very good point. i think president francois hollande is in a statement e state of denial stam with president obama. the denial driven by islamist extremism. religiously motivated violence. it is the greatest threat of our generation. we really need to rise up to the challenge. unfortunately mr. hollande clearly is not up to the task. in many ways france has become a basket case under socialist rule. and we need strong robust leadership on both sides of the atlantic. unfortunately with mr. hollande and president obama they're both politicians in a deep state of denial. this is a war that we simply have to wi

islam than you and i are. i was angrier about the mafia than people that weren't italian-american because they were defaming the group that i am in part a member of. >> i was angrier at the catholic church than anybody, i still am. >> because of what happened. >> i want to go back after 9/11. you were given $10 million by i don't remember the name of the saudi prince -- >> i call him one of the princelings. i think he owns most of citibank or chase bank. >> $10 million to the memorial fund. >> a $10 million check. he gave it to me and then he put out a press release and he blamed 9/11 on america's foreign policy and america's relationship with israel. now, before i gave the money back i made three calls to three of the widows. because the money wasn't for me. it was for them. and i asked them what should i do with this money? and all three of them said we do not want blood money. give it back. and we eventually collected $227 million and gave it to them. so his money didn't matter. but at the time we didn't ha

this is coming out of islam.oing because everybody understands that you use a phrase radical islam you are not indicting all of islam. you know ba la persist this absurd word game. >> if everybody know what is it is what's the advantage of actually saying it, if everybody knows it's radical islam what difference does it make if he says it. >> everybody understands that we distinguish between a radical islam ministry islam and islam but if you as because you are afraid that there will be people who don't understand that you don't say radical islam. you say we are fi violent extremism, what does that mean? it means nothing. >> we will continue this discussion in the online show. that's it for the panel. but speaking of which, stay tuned to find out what happens when the panel stop being polite but the cameras are still rolling. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda. if you haven't been there before, he

and the terrorists are not islam because if you call them islam you give them the game.egitimate and we the moderates become ill legitimate. >> but that is theoretical. the reality is in this world islamic nations are causing an enormous amount of trouble so you cannot take islam out of the equation as mr. abduhl-jabbar would like to do because these theocracies are based on, they say, the teachings of ala. >> and we refuse to yield to them, the legitimacy and the authority -- >> but they already have it. >> no they don't. [ overlapping speakers ] >> they are political governments that have dominion over muslim individuals who for the most part want freedom and it is our job to help them attain such by democracy i don't disagree with that. it is our job to undermine regimes like iran which pose a threat to the world. but mr. zafar, we go back to the legitimate point that you have to discuss islam and you have to discuss the religion because that is what is driving this terror around the world. a misinterpretation and i do agree with both of you and kareem in that. i don'

this is not islam. it is important to tell young people to stop listening to what they hear on their social networks. they should stop listening to radical imams because they are on the road to ruin. >> some french muslims are worried they could now be increasingly subjected to suspicions or worse. after the killings, attacks were reported overnight on mosques and other muslim buildings in a number of wrench cities -- french cities. >> it's definitely going to make things worse. it's going to turn people against muslims. and those who were against islam already will feel justified. they will say that all muslims are potential terrorists. >> islam a phobic sentiment has been on the rise in rants for a long time. many of the countries muslims -- many of the country's muslims feel that they are heavily discriminated against. >> wearing a veil, you get nasty looks all the time. people insult you. i'm sure it will get worse now. people will be pointing fingers at us even more. >> we are sick of being critici

islam in the medium.are going to be -- we are an army of political winners essentially. >> that's being turbo charged that the caliphate has taken root in iraq and syria. there's a real perception of a west in disarray and in retreat. al qaeda certainly not on a path to defeat. these guys feel like they are winners. >> and that is mobilizing and could be mobilizing a new wave of attacks and militant soldiers in the west. 40 million muslims in the west, europe and united states elsewhere. and something called the new charismatic jihad, which is the fact that people, these young men in particular look at islamic state and say the west is losing. future is ours. we need to join that fight in the streets of the west. >> yes. >> let me just say, we've been brought to this day largely by the fact that the west has retreated from this threat. what have we heard? we've heard about the lack of integrace -- >> integration of muslims in the west. >> 9/11 was committed by very wealthy sons the british atash -- >> sec

they will still not say the words islamic radicals, islamic terrorists. why? >> i think basically it's a firm etiology on their part. if it reflects poor on islam it's not islam. that's self-perpetuating and ridiculous. things reflect badly on all religions. there are people that do in the name of christianity and in the name of islam that reflect badly on their faith. the idea is from this white house, that they have taken it as an etiology mantra that they're going to create these sanitized euphemisms and ab abstractions abstractions, extremism, as if we fought world war ii against nationalism, and not german nationalism. i talk to muslims all the time, and they call those people crazy muslims. you talk to a cab driver in washington, d.c. about this stuff, and they're embarrassed and ashamed that people are doing it in the name of their religion, for the most part. >> but the white house, back in 2012 they urged charlie hebdo not to publish cartoons. josh earnest came out with the same admonition as jay carney back in 2012 saying whenever journalists provoke

they're not committed by islam.d by individuals that represent a violent strand of radical a islam. i think to not say so is frankly to be misleading. to me john it would be like discussing pedophile priests but saying don't utter the word catholic. it would be like saying we're going to have a conversation about the mafia but never going to mention individuals of italian heritage. i don't like this censorship. i think the censorship assumes if you say these words there will be a revolt among all followers of the islamic faith. that's as bad as individuals that say in the after math of one of these attacks it's representative of the entire faith when it's not. i'm for transparency or honest say. >> what do you make of this? >> that's a fair point brought up. for us it's not a matter of being offensive. i don't take offense if somebody calls it muslim extremism or terrorists. some do take it forward on other networks and called this islamic attack. so the word terrorism is removed. for us instead of validating the as

islam. this is why they need to do something more brutal than world trade center. >> is violence in the name of islam really about islam? basketball laj end kareem abdul-jabbar talks. >> it's great to be back in the state great state of iowa. >> who will capture the conservative wing of the party? mike huckabee joins us. >> and the national obsession. >> this isn't isis. no one is dying. >> tom brady is right about that but not many are buying patriot's explanation of deflate-gate. >>> tom brokaw stephanie rawlings-blake helene cooper and hugh hewitt. welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >>> good morning. the president arrived in india overnight and has already had a press conference where he vowed to continue america's counterterror strategy as the middle east continues to descend into chaos. the apparent murder of a apparent hostage by isis shown here on the left, a second hostage is still being held.

interpretation of islam.may not be the true islam. it may not be -- >> but it is believed by hundred -- you believe by hundreds of millions. >> and will be just as dead whether true or not. >> tonight, here on "hannity". >> this happens way too frequently. it's like groundhog day, except if the groundhog kept getting his head cut off. >> democrats need to pay attention. start listening to their fellow liberals, even like bill maher about the dangers of radical islam. bob beckel is here with analysis and much more. that's straight ahead. [container door opening] ♪ what makes it an suv is what you can get into it. ♪ [container door closing] what makes it an nx is what you can get out of it. ♪ introducing the first-ever lexus nx turbo and hybrid. once you go beyond utility there's no going back. shrimp? who are you calling a shrimp? that, my friend, is a big shrimp. it's red lobster's big shrimp festival. i get to pick my perfect pair from six creations for just $15.99. so open wide for crispy jumbo tempura shri

there is radical islam and islam. talk to the radical islam don't talk. they are trying to kill us. >> i heard senator rand paul give a speech yesterday. he was asked specifically about that the distinction he sees is between civilized and barbaric islam. it uses justification. but, again not giving credence to it. not lending credence to it. other politicians would make other choices in terms of the labeling. they made -- they recognize that the weekend not recognizing how big the paris event was was a mistake. which is pretty extraordinary to have any white house acknowledge that so i think that piece of it is little bit separate from. this i don't think that if they had hudenly labeled that differently that would have forced their hands to send one to paris. >> any way it validates or gives them credence if we say radical islam. i don't understand the white house doing this. >> i don't think there is, either. dissphing between islam and islamism or president bush used the phrase islamic fascism. insensitive and helping the terrorists. again you have to

my question goes to the characterization of islam and islamic extremism. i remember on 9/11, or 9/12 when president bush said this is not an attack, we are not enemies of islam, we are only against a small percentage of islamic extremists, i knew for a fact that he didn't believe that because the bush administration didn't act on that mythologies. the form of diplomat it was a good tactical strategy at the very beginning of what everyone knew would be a long war. as you pointed out our current administration does believe comment and there is an enormous pressure now toward the political correctness that islam is a peaceful religion. i know something about the koran. you can find peaceful mentions, but basically as you say, islam and islamic terrorism feed on each other and all you had to do was find the world wide polls of september of 2001 that show how many muslims around the world supported the attack on the united states. my question is given all these years of political correctness given the kinds of things the yale muslim students association were sa

we are in a war against islam.call it islamic total tearism, but you have to combat the ideology of the enemy, which is what the general said in his speech in egypt. we refuse to do that, therefore we do not acknowledge the true intent and intention of this enemy. >> so france has the largest muslim population in europe. do you think one of the lessons for us is that your immigration policy matters? >> well, we need to look at our immigration policy especially those who have immigrated from countries with terrorist affiliations on terror lists or harboring the terrorist entities. but the most important thing that you touched on earlier in the program, is this is multi-culturism where we see the no-go zones set up where essentially muslim communities in some of these countries in europe especially, are isolated from the nation's culture and running their own type of law enforcement. and that's where you subcommittee the fostering and the festering of the islamic totalitarism. >> in light of this the pentagon says we

and these are terrorist attacks spauped by a perverted notion of islam. not to call it what it is strikes me as just not being forth coming. with the american people or the world about what we think it is. >> senator lindsay gram says he believes the president's policies have made us less safe and in response to what we saw today, do you agree with that? >> absolutely. the president's policy is basically kill terrorist was drones. i'm not necessarily opposed to that but the important thing you can do is capture a terrorist and interrogate them. and the president doesn't want to us do that, either, he's in the procession of trying to close guantanamo bay which is the perfect place for foreign terrorists captured overseas he wants to main stream them because that means they're going to get a lawyer and shut up. the president's policy is two fold, one, to kill them which may be appropriate but you're not knot going to learn anything, or put them in a u.s. court, these are foreigners not entitled to the protections of the u.s. constitution. and they're told t