himself from the other islam state or islamic country. but the people, the muslim people are saying it's a completely different question. what they think of themselves and what the people call them is different. i believe the saudi's, the royal family is not popular as it used to be. because they align themselves with the west. they're taking the american side and they help american of iraq. so now they are distending their warplanes so i believe it is not as pure as they wanted to be. so they call themselves part of this rhyme but i believe the image is very shaky now because of their intervention in yemen. because of the intervention also supported muslim brotherhood's and also with the bigger states in the middle east like egypt for example. like syria, like iraq, and because also the division which is also taken place in the syrian division, now they are represented one side of the islamic part and the other side is the shiite islam. so the one state is actually the leader because of the secretary and divide. >> it was my impression t

i'm not here to depend islam. islam has god to defend it. i'm here to build bridges of understanding so that we do not go into the abyss of hating each other or thinking we are right and the other is wrong. that's why i'm trying to seek this middle value that we have. islam, the core of moderation in islam lies in two verses. one which says we have created you a temperate nation, a balanced nation. this is first 143. it comes exactly in the middle. however, it is preceded -- and wasatia means middle, linguistically it means moderation, middle ground, temperance. the significance of this verse is that it is preceded by another verse. and so there is the foundation is built on three columns or three breaks. it is the idea that the first -- it's preceded by verse 142 that says he guides whom he wills to a straight path. so we are talking about a path, a straight path. and then so it is a path to deliverance. and the verse talks, and thus we created a moderate nation, which actually builds on the golden rule. then we walk on that to justice. act

this. >> is this plan b with the islamic state? don't you think that has to come from the islamic world rather they'll go west? . . . . look at what happened in northern ireland. it was some sort of coexistence. to create prosperity and jobs for the people. the war between the dash on the catholic

islamic house of wisdom.imam. the truth is this is done in the name of islam. this is a literal interpretation of the koran. it is the call to jihad. it is the infidels. it is the holy war. it's about the literal interpretation of the koran. it's about the perversion of islam, correct? that's just a fact. >> it is about extremism and terrorism and that is evil. that's crime. >> in the name of allah, in the name of islam. in the name of the koran. >> if you want to understand why we have isis and why we have this san bernardino tragedy. two things. number one, look at $70 billion spent by the saudis to teach and also 13 years of the crimes of the families of 9/11 asking for this classification of those 28 pages which were classified by president bush and unfortunately president obama. >> they are doing these acts in the name of allah. in the name of the koran. they are doing it in the name of islam. they believe that this is what the koran instructs them to do. >> it is not -- it is not in the name of allah in

with respect to the islamic state. holding territory, therefore, taking it back from them, taking bacharacha, taking back mosul, taking back -- taking back raqqa, taking back mosul, taking back other cities, matters. it will put a big dent in their recruitment. because they will lose a great deal of legitimacy that they have enjoyed within jihadi circles. they will still go underground. and they'll still have to be rooted out. but it will be easier if they can't recruit as well. ms. sanchez: thank you for that enlightenment. i've really been one of those who has been trying to understand what's the root of this. thank you, mr. chairman. mr. thornberry: ms. mcsally. ms. mcsally: thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, gentlemen, for your service and testimony today. in my time in the military, one of the things that was our most concerning at first threat was the combination of a terrorist organization with a weapons of mass destruction. i serve on homeland security, i'm the chairwoman of the subcommittee, we've done some h

they talk the talk about confronting islamic state. islamic state does not really threaten assad. they have almost a tacit understanding to leave each other alone. it is the groups we would like to support, should support, that are really locked in with assad, bearing the brunt of russian airpower. they are all in on this. they are all in against us, but we are not doing anything to demonstrate to anyone that we are pushing back. >> that was a great question, senator. i agree with much of what the ambassador said. syria is isis center of gravity. what they're doing in iraq is occupying sunni lands. in syria, it is from syria they have expanded into those affiliates i described on those maps, and from syria they are creating a worldwide following. syria truly matters, but it is a much more complex problem. when you talk to leaders, sunni leaders, unequivocally they will tell you that iran is her number one problem. that is their issue. and, i put that map of there because sometimes a visual picture tells an incredible story of what their concern is. that is the number one a sister

is at war with islam. in the 90s it was a little bit harder to figure out what the heck he meant by that. it seems like sureley lunatic notion. the usa gone into bosnia. what happened after 9/11? this is really the way historically it functions. we invaded afghanistan. we invaded iraq. they began flying drones over pakistan could we began flying drones over yemen. they began taking strikes in somalia. it's a gross oversimplification to say the u.s. is at war with islam. but it's literally true that we are killing muslims. the core recruiting pitch of al qaeda to impression all young muslims is the u.s. is killing your muslim brothers and sisters it's your religious obligation to fight back and that's what it was. well i think the u.s. is safer than it was at the time of 9/11 certainly a big attack like that , because of surveillance and border control and a lot of other things. it's also true i think most experts would say the minority of muslims and is a small minority of more than 1 billion muslims world

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islamic state as brutal as it is.see you have to deal with that ruth cop -- the root causes to help the country rebuild with respect there is the big debate. one having refugees in camps indefinitely or near syria also breeds resentment to help the islamic state recruits as well. and to take refugees to bear in mind to play into the islamic state as a make that decision of refugees. >> thank you to the witnesses and eight years on the intelligence committee and to appreciate your testimony and on the military and political front. with some concrete steps with that military french and on the political front given the fact there are countless examples through the chiron that's isil uses to justify their actions. what are effective ways to delegitimized isil? given the headwinds that we're up against that they are using the acheron to justify what they're doing? >> as recently to hold several hearings on counter extremist messaging and then the white house announced the new task force. with an ideological messaging and t

is there a moderate islam? what is moderation meaning islam? how does one achieve it? we are fortunate to have two people who exemplify but one of our speakers is professionally seceded with which is the concept of moral courage people can display in society culture and it is about ideas and beliefs, standing for change even if there is a great personal call. both of our speakers have exemplified that idea, that ideal of moral courage within the context of islam in our society. first i am very proud to turn to her shed mansion. this is not the 1st time speaking, but it has been some years since she has been with us. i am delighted she is back. she is a prominent speaker and lecture public intellectual, author of books such as allah will liberty, and love. muslims call for reform in her place. any enemy nominated documentary faith without fear. i'm delighted you can find time to join us. i call today a discussion and exchange of views and i think that is the spirit in which we will proceed. i am delighted to introduce my colleagues here at the institute, the western fel

they talk the talk about confronting islamic state. islamic state does not really threaten assad. they have almost a tacit understanding to leave each other alone. it is the groups we would like to support, should support, that are really locked in with assad, bearing the brunt of russian airpower. they are all in on this. they are all in against us, but we are not doing anything to demonstrate to anyone that we are pushing back. >> that was a great question, senator. i agree with much of what the ambassador said. syria is isis center of gravity. what they're doing in iraq is occupying sunni lands. in syria, it is from syria they have expanded into those affiliates i described on those maps, and from syria they are creating a worldwide following. syria truly matters, but it is a much more complex problem. when you talk to leaders, sunni leaders, unequivocally they will tell you that iran is her number one problem. that is their issue. and, i put that map of there because sometimes a visual picture tells an incredible story of what their concern is. that is the number one a sister

germans deploying missiles against the islamic state. it is possible the attacks could have been targeted at germany and turkey at the same time. whichever way the investigation turns out, i think there is some fallout possibly for the german public support for the mission against islamic state. sarah: so, speaking of the reaction, what has been the reaction in germany, simon? simon: of course, politicians have all been condemning this attack. chancellor merkel, as you saw there, came out and offered her condolences to the relatives of those killed. she said indeed there could be more deaths. there are at least teed of people lying in hospital seriously injured. but she said germany will not be cowed by this. the enemies of free people are the terrorists, but germany working with international partners together will be victorious in conquering them in the end. sarah: simon young for us in our parliamentary studios. think you very much for that. now many of the german victims booked their trip to istanbul through the same berlin-based tra

he joins us at the moment when the organization that calls itself the islamic state islamic state is on the mind of everyone who pays attention to world affairs and we are fortunate he is joining us this evening. we it's a pleasure to welcome you he to the world affairs council this eveningng. trying abdel bari. [inaudible] >> please excuse me. is your microphone on, sir? no. we can see you but we cannot hear you. . >> there is still no sound. is your microphone on? there is camera but no sound. is this on our and? yes. >> i am not good with the latest technology. but i talk about bad digital caliphate. [laughter] >> as i read your book you say they are in a political project from different of al qaeda or the affiliate's in syria. how would you describe the key difference between the islamic state in space the al qaeda? >> with al qaeda is seen as the of richer because it was fully dependent on the osama bin london. so it is the old vic in french of a camera and then all other mainstream organizations but when it comes to the islamic state no. it is a well established organization to

i think we all know they are not there to fight the islamic state, they don't care about islamic state, nor does iran. they care about shoring up the side. so with that it is perceived in the region as an anti- sunni arab access. the more we don't take sides the more we try to work with the russians or iranians, the more that perception takes hold among the sunni arabs. the considerable majority of the pipe relation of that region. the more islamic state can make hay out of it. i could go on a great lengths, but i will not. i would mention several specific steps that we need to take. i would agree on the importance of establishing a no-fly zone and safe zones. it has gotten infinitely harder now with the russians they are. i still would like to see us pursue it and i would imagine this committee is heavily engaged with the administration and looking at its feasibility. it is important, like many military actions, it is important politically. single sunni arabs and and beyond that we stand with them against the butchery of the charlotta. his killing far more of his own citizens than isl

and about how to practice islam. >> the sahwa was the islamic awakening of the 1970s.rticularly appealing to somebody like bin laden who's already very religious. islamic awakening suggested we're going to create more just islamic societies around the middle east. >> he come from a generation of angry islamists, who wanted to change the muslim world for the better. my name is jamal khashoggi. i met osama bin laden in 1987 in jeddah, saudi arabia. >> reporter: khashoggi, himself, was caught up in the awakening, as a saudi journalist he spent time with bin laden in afghanistan, saudi arabia, and later in sudan. how was osama bin laden influenced by the muslim brotherhood? >> he started with the muslim brotherhood in saudi arabia. he was very much influenced. >> the muslim brotherhood was born in egypt, and again and again, bin laden is influenced by egyptian ideas, egyptian political organizations, and egyptian people, and they tend to move him in a more radical and militant direction over time. >> reporter: this man, syed qutb, was an inspiration for the muslim brotherh

in 2014, islamic state militants produced a video in indonesian. they are aiming to recruit more fighters from here. more than 500 indonesians are believed to have traveled to the middle east to join the islamic state group. a jailed cleric, abu bakr bashir, has continued to instruct his followers from behind bars encouraging them to join the islamic state militant group. bashir is the spiritual leader of a southeast asian group blamed for an attack in bali that killed more than 200 people. on tuesday, the radical cleric began an appeal to have his jail term reduced. it was a rare public appearance by the cleric. a large number of his supporters gathered which demonstrated he still exerts considerable influence. in december, authorities arrested supporters of the islamic state group who are alleged to have been planning an attack. on new year's eve around 150,000 security forces were deployed to protect potential targets. the heightened state of alert is likely to continue for some time. fransiska renatta, nhk world, jakarta. >>> u.s. secretary of

listen to this. >> no way, shape, or form does anyone believe that islam or the teaching of islam hasthing to to do with what you've seen on that screen. it's terrible, and it does not represent the religion in any way, shape, or form or any of its teachings. and this is a criminal with a stolen gun who tried to kill one of our officers has nothing to do with being a muslim or following the islamic faith. melissa: huh? i mean here now former fbi agent chad jenkins. we were watching this live and these statements came within a few minutes of each other where you have the police chief and commissioner and all standing there saying again and again what he said. i'm doing this in the name of islam. you were not enforcing -- the way you enforce laws in violation of the crime. on and on and then you have the mayor come out saying that anyone would say even for a minute that this has anything to do with the muslim religion. how do you reconcile those things and does it make it harder to enforce the law if you refuse to connect them? >> well, melissa, it does. i mean my goodness first and for

--rom the chaos of benghazi the so-called islamic state. visibleheir black flag from the only entrance into the city. growing asence is fighters from other islamic nations join them. on the frontline, the men rest after a long day. all of them say they will keep fighting. within the armed forces grows, so does their sense of identity. bbc news, benghazi. katty: a rare look inside benghazi. for more on the spread of the islamic state i spoke with chuck hagel, president obama's defense 2013 to february of last year. secretary hagel, we just heard about the expansion of the islamic state's reach in libya. extension oft the the reach in afghanistan. afghanistan to libya, how far will the movement spread? sec. hagel: it is already spread throughout the middle east and northern got. it is a combination, a strange combination, of ideology, a warped sense of what the islamic caliphate could be. and anger, a resentment that has been built up. it is a combination of those. it is a toxic brew that attracts millions of disconnected and disinfect did. -

is at war with islam.ad in the '90s it was a little hard to figure out what the heck you meant by that he did seem like sort of a lunatic notion. u.s.a. going into bosnia and protected muslims. what the heck did he mean by that? but what happened after 9/11, and this is really the way historically terrorism functions, we invaded afghanistan. we invaded iraq. would begin flying drones over pakistan. we begin flying drones over yemen. and taking strikes in somalia. it's a gross oversimplification to say that u.s. is at war with islam, but it is literally true that we are killing muslims. and the core recruiting pitch of al-qaeda to impressionable young muslims is the u.s. is killing your muslim brothers and sisters. it's your religious obligation to fight back, and that's what awlaki's pitch was. while i think the u.s. is far safer than it was at the time of 9/11, certainly again a big attack like that, because of increased surveillance, border controls and a lot of other things, it's also true i think most

the islamic ... sharia for example teaches us that muslims have to respect the law of the country in which they live. if there's any conflicts there is nothing in the teachings of islam that says that you have by force to change the law of the country in which you live. here we have to be careful not to take groups like isis that does not even represent one percent of the muslim population of one point six billion person around the world. they do not really represent the mainstream understandin g of the teachings of islam, which again invites and encourages muslims to be od citizens, to be good participants of any community wherever again all we need to do is to look at t e example of cedar rapids, and many other examples around america. cedar rapids might be significant because of the fact that we've had muslims since late eighteen hundred and early nineteen hundred. we have the first and the longest standing place of worship for muslims. we have the first muslim exclusive cemetery in the country an

we begin with an extraordinary chance to look into the islamic state. a single reporter has dared to venture there since the gruesome beheadings of journalists began last year. imagine seeing this. >> i'm john cantlay, the british citizen abandoned by my own government. >> and this. >> these could be my last hours in this world. >> and then heading straight into the heart of darkness. ♪ but that is precisely what this man did. >> during the months i was preparing the trip, every night i felt a knife on my throat. i felt it physically. >> jurgen todenhofer is a german journalist. last year he crossed the border into isis territory. >> i think you must know your enemy if you want to defeat him. >> he went to mosul, an iraqi city about the size of philadelphia. population around 1.5 million. it's the biggest prize isis has captured. this extraordinary video gives us a rare look into every day life into isis. it brings to mind the writer -- the banality of evil. isis has its own license plates and traffic cops who give parking tickets. and there are friendl

frederick: this is an area where the islamic state has tried to mount attacks.y have their base in an area to the east, and what they are clearly trying to do is disrupt the formation of an effective government and effective police force so they can expand their rule. are we seeing increasingly that libya is becoming some kind of a backstop for islamic state as they come under pressure in syria? frederick: that's the real fear. this is in many ways right territory. there's no government. it's lawless. it has plenty of arms. they already have a foothold in this one city. there is already a base of jihadist sentiment in some areas, so this is a real concern. laura: there are others, too, who are causing chaos, aren't there? frederick: it is a very crowded field. the region is awash with militias, so there is a lot of competition. we found islamic state was actually pushed out by a rival jihadist group that was aligned with al qaeda. laura: you technically have these rival governments that you talked about. do they talk to each other? frederick: the real focus of t

and some fled the islamic state. although actually the numbers that flee the assad government's aerial bombing is much, much, much higher than the number who flee the islamic state, as brutal as the islamic state is. so you've got to deal with that root cause in order to convince people to go back. there could be reconstruction. we might be able to find ways to generate resources to help the country rebuild. but you can't do any of that until the war goes on. so i go back to what i said on that. with respect to keeping them closer versus farther, yes, there's big debate about syrian refugees right now. i would just say this. having refugees in camps indefinitely, even near syria in lebanon or turkey or jordan or iraq, where there is no hope, also breeds resentment and helps the islamic state recruit as well. so as we the americans think about whether or not we should take refugees, i think we also need bear in mind that choosing not to take refuse zees plays into an islamic state recruiting effort. and we will have t

whether it was sympathetic or islamic full on. radical islam.cited a number of times that this was in the name of islam. officials. stick around. ♪ days after the paris attacks, senators came together for a top-secret briefing on the terrorist threat... marco rubio was missing - fundraising in california instead. two weeks later, terrorists struck again in san bernardino... and where was marco? fundraising again in new orleans. over the last 3 years, rubio has missed important national security hearings and missed more total votes than any other senator. politics first: that's the rubio way. right to rise usa is responsible for the content of this message. choose, choose, choose. but at bedtime? ...why settle for this? enter sleep number, and the lowest prices of the season. sleepiq technology tells you how well you slept and what adjustments you can make. you like the bed soft. he's more hardcore. so your sleep goes from good to great to wow! only at a sleep number store... find the lowest prices of the season, going on now. save $600 on the #1

killed aspeople being of this islamic extremism, by the islamic state and boko haram and others. we have to react because we are the primary targets, the primary victims. just as i hear you in terms of not being an apologist, i would like to invite you about thinking about not being a victim. muslims are not victims it we have had occupation and colonization. i do not know of any country that has not. i do not like the term victim are the term victims of aggression. i think muslims are providers and active citizens of the communities they live. there is a history. i would not classify us as a victims. we have a voice and a stand and always find a way to step up it we have to stay true to our religion. we are born and raised in the thisl fact -- fabric of country. host: mainstream islam, who are the leaders of that, and how have they responded to isis, boko haram, who say they represent the true form of islam? some of the organizations were listed on the council of -- some of the organizations i listed, including care, have the largest gatherings globally for muslims in the world.

islam & muslims are not terrorists. terrorism is not islam." across the city - nahdlatul ulama, an association of islamic scholars - with 50 million indonesian members worldwide - held an interfaith dialogue with representatives of the catholic and protestant churches, jewish, hindu and bhuddhist communities. signing a declaration condemning the attack, calling for unity and compassion for the victims' families and peace. in november 2015 - recognizing the potential threat, the association released a video campaign - aimed at the film urges muslims to put more focus on the human side of islam. there is growing concern, heightened by this attack, about isis gaining a foothold in the world's largest muslim country. at least 500 fighters are believed to have traveled to iraq and syria from here. but that's 500, out of 200 million mostly moderate muslims - in a secular state. isis claimed responsibility for thursday's gun and bomb attack saying the group was targeting quote "a gathering of nationals of the crusader alliance, which is fighting the i

of islam has anything to do with the scene up on the screen. it is abhorrent, and it does not represent the religion in any shape or form or any of the teachings, and this is a criminal with a stolen gun who tried to kill one of our officers, and it has nothing to do with being a muslim or following the islamic faith. i want the to turn it over to the commissioner for any questions that he has. >> i imagine that you have a lot of questions, and what i cannot answer, the captain are will answer or perhaps somebody behind me. so we will open it up. >> what specifically did this man said to the fact of what he had done and why he had done it? >> captain? >> we had the suspect upstairs and the homicide unit did not have anything -- did talk to him immediately, and he didn't have much to say, and then he said that he follows the religious state of allah, and he was called upon to do this. >> and what specifically did he say? >> he just kept on echoing those sentiments, and wouldn't say anything beyond that. >> and captain, the area, there is word th

about islam. and those folks that haven't quite made up their mind yet. >> reporter: the cadets are searching for ways to insert their messages into the broader social media conversation, all without being detected as west point cadets. sometimes they do this by exploiting the use of twitter hashtags. >> the islamic state does a very good job of utilizing trending hashtags in order to get on sites and get on people... people's twitter feeds, where they wouldn't normally be on there. for example, so, if the super bowl was trending, they will include whatever messages they want, but they all include the hashtag, #superbowl. and so, we are trying, utilizing some of those same techniques. >> reporter: direct messaging also allows the cadets to interact one on one with users. >> this is someone from the middle east in our 18-40 age bracket, telling us we have a nice page. >> reporter: during our visit, the cadets said they received a facebook message from someone they believed to be in the middle east.

the battle is within islam itself. wherein the arab world this battle is intersecting with regimes and family monarchy's fa failure to adjust. therefore, we are fighting a political and religious ideology which draws its origin from the strict interpretation of the koran and the intolerance. political leaders have referred to it as a religious revolution. yet the current u.s. administration fails to define radical islam or explain it, nor understand it. how can we possibly defeat radical islam if we don't understand it? knowing the kind of war you are fighting is the first priority of a national or military leader. given this purposeful misunderstanding, or self-deception at best, by not acknowledging this narrowly focused islamic ideology, it creates an unnecessary condition where all muslims are brought under suspicion. law abiding, faith-based traditional or modern muslims who would do no harm to the fellow man and resent any association with radical islam deserve better treatment than that. this is a 21st century g

guest: i emphasize it is not a product of islam.t's being used as one of the many different from having a voice. the only form of understanding strength is violence. butle are turning that way when i walk around group which are radicalized, i continue to have the size of there is never an excuse for violence and it does not work. what we have seen as nonviolent resistance that has the most sustainable results. violent revolutions, 80% go back into violence afterwards. you can look at the arabs spring and you see that dramatically. the ones were peaceful like tunisia have the best chance. fragile and has challenges but it is a beacon of hope in the region and it was a nonviolent religion -- resistance. when you look at syria and libya, you look at where they are today and statistically be on the middle east, nonviolent resistance has more sustainable results. you can be angry. you look at the dictatorships and you look at the authoritarian economics and you're not attention. it's a bumper sticker but it's true . with the u.s. institu

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there's a global war going on against islam and muslims.y felt that at 15, 16 years old, i subscribed to it, and dedicated the rest of my life to it. in fact, i was prepared to die for it. >> in the months after 9/11, maajid nawaz was arrested. in an egyptian jail, with what he calls the cream of the crop of jihadists, he was thrilled at first about all he could learn from them, but then he had a jailhouse revelation. >> living so close with them for four years in prison. i came to the conclusion that if these guys, any of them ever got to power, if they ever declared this so-called caliphate, it would be hell on earth, it would be a living nightmare. >> something had clicked, where once he felt no sympathy for the victims of 9/11, the 7/7 attacks in london he says, made him feel revulsion. recently nawaz's journey almost took him from prison to parliament. he ran for a seat in this year's british elections. he's currently a chairman of a thinktank he co-founded to study extremism and challenge it. >> people that join isil, they genuinely t

this is the mentality of radical islam. it's about time this president and everybody says what it is. charles: he attempted to kill the cop. the brave police officer was struck three times. he got out of the car to wound this guy. we know it's radical islam. there is the organization, the sleeper cells and so-called lone wolves. but even the lone wolves have to be inspired. >> the islamic state has been savvy in its social media outreach. there has been indication they are seeking out and looking for people who are like this guy who have potential mental illness, who are the school shooter types. they have given a blanket invitation to do violence in the name of allah. it will be a difficult thing for law enforcement to combat. charles: the mayor blames guns, his mother blames a football injury. it's one thing to call it out, radical islam, they are coming after us, we know what their intentions are. but when these individual commit these kind of crimes and the knee jerk reaction by the left is to say it's gun violence -- >

it's an adjective associated with the islamic.for example if you think about the killing in the church by dylann roof we designated designate it as a hate crime rather than an act of terror. it seems like you could just as easily into your point an act of terror. >> i shouldn't necessarily take europe but the long history in germany for the turkish community was entirely separate. the chairman did not try to encourage the jewish to assimilate. there were issues about what level the turks could take part. europe, the christian jewish world really turned its back on his lung and tried to keep them separate so it's less surprising to me that people who happen to be muslim therefore feel they were put to their own remedy. there are more from the kids obviously acting out and there's this kind of predictable curve of a statement. we did the french report for the human rights committee and i was is honest the muslims in paris being hired and having access to government jobs. when there is a muslim and a cabinet and attractive woman who

government is explicitly blaming the islamic state group. we will remain determined in our fight against the islamic carriedganization, who out this attack. we will not back down in his fight against daesh. turkey was swift to released some details about the man it says was a suicide attacker in this incident. earlier on we got the latest on the investigation from our correspondent in istanbul. reporter: the bomber has been identified, according to the turkish authorities. he is a syrian citizen born in saudi arabia. a member of the islamic state group who crossed recently entered turkey from syria. has reported that he joined a group of german tourists near the egyptian obelisk, some 200 meters up there on the left behind me. told him tour guide buzz off and then he detonated himself. catherine: what leaves the turkish authorities so certain that the islamic state group was behind the attack? jasper: we don't know. glu said he was and i asked member but he did not say how he came by that information. of the three most active militant groups

this is not islam. instead he is like i don't want to piss off all muslims so i am going to deny the elephant in the room and the elephant in the room is radical islam. >> i don't know how we expect to win any fight on terror or isis when we can't identify what's going on all of the reports said he screamed about isis. i don't know at what point people are going to wake up to reality. >> it is true, tom, it's run amok. >> i am obsessing over these new attacks. am i over stating the risk? >> we are all thinking about it too much. maybe we have people like this mayor who are -- it's the opposite of that old boy who cried wolf fable. a wolf attacks a village every day. there's a kid out there saying that wasn't a wolf. we to talk about it because everyone is in denial. you are encouraged to see the apocalyptic consequences of climate change. in this case it is like you have nothing to do with this at all it's gun crime. >> it doesn't make us any safer. it will happened in the street. you could say it is a

the islamic state doesn't really threaten bashar al-assad.they have almost a tacit understanding to leave each other alone. it is the groups the we would like to support, should support, that are really locked in with bashar al-assad, bearing the brunt of russian air power. they are all in on this, they are all in against us, but we are not doing anything to demonstrate to anyone that we are pushing back. >> great question, senator and i agree with much of what the ambassador said. let me start with syria and go to iraq because syria is isis's center of gravity. what they are doing in iraq is occupying senior land but in syria, it is from syria that they have expanded into those of the elites are described on those maps and it is from c areas they are killing fellow citizens to foment this agreement between muslim and non muslim populations. so cereus tremendous as a center of gravity but it is much much more complex problem. when you talk to leaders, sunni leaders unequivocally they will tell you that iran is their number-1 problem. that is

because what does the islamic state propaganda rely on?ay western society is not suitable for a muslim to live in. a muslim should immigrate to a muslim land, and preferably to the caliphate, because this caliphate that we are establishing is the dream land for all muslims. and the other aspect -- the other key point of isis propaganda is based on the fact that westerners marginalize muslim, that there is racism and hatred. and basically, what have we witnessed last summer? first, hundreds of thousands of muslims fleeing this dream land of syria. it's like -- it's just like if you had loads of jews fleeing israel just a couple of years after the state of israel is established. i mean, that's a -- it contradicts all of the speech the state is based on and contracts itself on. and not only that, so they leave this land of sham, that is dream land for isis, to immigrate to lands of unbelievers. and on top of that, they are welcomed with open arms by the western societies, who -- and by many people in europe who say, "well, you are our brother

to islamic state.they are well aware of the threat that is posed, the increased threat posed by the islamic state, by indonesia's fighting for the islamic state, by domestic extremist supported by and pledge allegiance to islamic state. francine: i know it is still early. our thoughts on with the family of those that lost lives. can you give us a sense of how you think the authorities have handle securities in jakarta and how they handled the attacks this morning? matthew: i think if you look at the way the attack was conducted and the casualty figures we know so far, bearing in mind you have four to five attackers with small arms and explosives, obviously reports are still unverified and unconfirmed as to whether they were suicide bombers among the attackers, but given the attacks were carried out in a busy shopping area of the capital, the fact that we are only looking at a confirmed two non-militants being killed shows that there was a fairly quick and effective security response to the attacks. the

of islam has anything with what you do on the screen.at is -- it's just terrible, and it does not represent the religion in any way, shape, or form or any of its teachings. and this is a criminal with a stolen gun who tried to kill one of our officers. it has nothing to do with being a muslim or following the islamic faith. lou: the mayor has some kind of cognitive disdense there, his own police officer articulated precisely what had transpired in what the charged suspect said of his own motivation. and guess what? backing up the mayor, the muslim, and the organization care. decimating a -- designated a terrorist group the unit arab emirates with the philadelphia mayor for crying out loud. they say archer does not appear to be an observant muslim. despite what his own mother said, as we just reported. well, joining us now, former nypd officer former secret service agent dan, also the author of a soon to be released book, the fight. a secret service agent inside count of security failings and the political machine. good to have you with u