so-called islamic state, haven't they?— so-called islamic state, haven't they?rting with the kurds, haven't they? starting with the kurds. they — haven't they? starting with the kurds, they have _ haven't they? starting with the kurds, they have established l kurds, they have established the main forces with fighting alongside the international coalition against isis. kurds where the main city which they could defeat isis in this city and then in the international coalition with the support of the local communities and local forces, alongside arabs, christians could defeat isis and eliminate them. the kurds are known by their loyalty with the international coalition, started to work with rival groups in turkey before. however in 2013, all of this changed over and the rebels turned to be radical islamic groups, so after that, the international coalition started to work with the kurds in northeast assyria and now there is a syrian democratic forces with an alliance with the local forces who are fighting with the international coalition against isis in the region h

this is somebody who appears to be anti—islamic or islamic pope.think in terms of the physical security that was around these things, the german authorities were very aware, every federalized place where there is a lot of power vested in individual states. so rather than having one big all—powerful m15 or fbi equivalent, a lot of power is divested and placed in individual states, they clearly missed the fact that there was an access route where he was able to drive his bmw through the gaps in the concrete barriers and carry out the mayhem that he then is accused of doing. mayhem that he then is accused of doinu. ., . ., ~ mayhem that he then is accused of doin. ., ., ., ,, ., of doing. you are talking about the motive. — of doing. you are talking about the motive, potential- of doing. you are talking about the motive, potential motive i the motive, potential motive and the ideology you've been describing. would you go as far to say this was a new phenomenon in terms of motive or in terms of ideologies? it certainly unusual for somebody to take it t

that does — so—called islamic state. that does not _ so—called islamic state.s realty— anti—islamic and again, it is really confusing a lot of so—called experts on this. in terms — so—called experts on this. in terms of— so—called experts on this. in terms of the physical security around — terms of the physical security around these things, the german authorities were very aware, and — authorities were very aware, and it— authorities were very aware, and it is— authorities were very aware, and it is a _ authorities were very aware, and it is a very federalised btace _ and it is a very federalised place where there is a lot of power — place where there is a lot of power invested in individual states, _ power invested in individual states, so rather than having one — states, so rather than having one powerful mi5 or fbi for the whole — one powerful mi5 or fbi for the whole country, a lot of power is divest _ whole country, a lot of power is divest a _ whole country, a lot of power is divest a placed in individual states. they clearly missed — individual states. t

was trying to islam as germany. these are all things investigators are looking into it. any way justifies what he did, so whatever conclusions of the country, the german authorities still haven't referred to this as a terrorist attack but whatever conclusions are they come to, there is obviously quite a complex back story going on here only bits of which are starting to come to light now. which are starting to come to light "ow-— which are starting to come to liuht now. �* ., ~ ., light now. and as we know there have been _ light now. and as we know there have been christmas _ light now. and as we know there have been christmas market - have been christmas market attacks before in germany and elsewhere in europe. how different to the usual profile of an attacker, suspect in an attack like this, is this individual?— attack like this, is this individual? , , ., individual? he is unusual in the sense _ individual? he is unusual in the sense that _ individual? he is unusual in the sense that for - individual? he is unusual in the sense that for a - individual? he is unusual

bashar al assad is from the islamic alawite sect.ty sunni muslim country for 50 years. in a working class alawite neighbourhood of damascus, a few agree to speak to us. dozens of others refused. i asked if they feared revenge. translation: so far, we are ok. hayat tahrir al—sham has been respectful to us, but there are groups pretending to be hts who are making threats. we are scared of them. many from the alawite sect and indeed this neighbourhood worked in assad's forces. where are they, i asked? translation: everyone - who worked with the military and did bad things has fled. but people who do not have blood on their hands, they are not scared and have stayed back. the men who've taken control have said those from the deposed regime involved in crimes will be held to account, but that the freedoms of minorities will be protected. hayat tahrir al—sham has a jihadist past and an islamist present. does syria's plural society believe their promises? this country's christian community is one of the oldest in the world. this is the chri

here is our economics editor faisal islam.— editor faisal islam.r faisal islam. if you were expecting a - editor faisal islam. if you were expecting a rate - editor faisal islam. if you - were expecting a rate change today and they have been held at 4.75% but under the hood of that decision there is some interesting dynamics. remember yesterday the us federal reserve's central bank did cut rates but signalled clearly there would be fewer rate cuts over 2025 command that affected markets. markets have been betting that there will be fewer rate cuts from the bank of england, to over the next year so the detail of the considerations of the 9—member lack of england committee came to when deciding to hold are quite interesting and the surprise was that three members of the 9—member committee decided that they thought it would be the right time to cut interest rates, including the deputy governor of the bank of england david ramsden. so that's a rather interesting development. and it comes because the bank has forecast just a month after its full round o

because sure, the worst thing that could happen to the islamic republic which is what the israeli primeontinue all the way to today ran in the fall of islamic republic. if the regime believes that might happen then they will surely have good reasons to start to look for exit strategy, to essentially as i said earlier to take the plunge and go in a very different direction from here on. ~ ., different direction from here on, ~ ., ., . ., different direction from here on. ~ ., ., ., on. were it to reach out for example — on. were it to reach out for example to _ on. were it to reach out for example to the _ on. were it to reach out for example to the syrian - example to the syrian transitional government, what reaction would you anticipate from damascus?— reaction would you anticipate from damascus? look, ithink it's really _ from damascus? look, ithink it's really early _ from damascus? look, ithink it's really early days. - from damascus? look, ithink it's really early days. one - it's really early days. one thing i have to point out is when you look at the history of islamic republic f

, not only of islamism, but in islam, such as tommy robinson in great britain.es. he didn't particularly retreat all the right wing extremism theories, so it does not seem that his whole worldview was right—wing extremism. he also tweeted a lot about sexual abuse, he tweeted a lot about women's rights, some facts that are really to be criticised for anybody, advocating for women's rights, but he mixed with theories, with conspiracy, but most outstanding where his own perception of the german state, of the treatment of refugees, of the treatment of refugees, of the treatment of refugees, of the german police, and he even accused his own lawyers to have betrayed him. i even accused his own lawyers to have betrayed him.— have betrayed him. i want to ask about — have betrayed him. i want to ask about something - have betrayed him. i want to ask about something that. have betrayed him. i want to| ask about something that you wrote about, saying the suspect had worked as a doctor, and i've seen your comment about education level is not ruling out for example self radi

not only of islam islam, such as tommy robinson in great britain. didn't particularly retweet all of the extremism theories, it does not seem that his whole world view was right wing extremism. he also tweeted a lot about sexual abuse. he tweeted a lot about women's rights. some facts that are really to be criticized for anybody advocating for women's right but he mixed it with theories, conspiracy the most outstanding work his own perception of the german state, of the treatment of refugees, of the german police and even accused his own lawyers to have betrayed him. i accused his own lawyers to have betrayed him-— accused his own lawyers to have betrayed him. i want to ask about somethin: betrayed him. i want to ask about something you — betrayed him. i want to ask about something you wrote _ betrayed him. i want to ask about something you wrote about, - betrayed him. i want to ask about. something you wrote about, saying the suspect had worked as a doctor. i've seen you comment about education levels, not ruling out self radicalization. just tell

. supported the afd and was anti-islamic.— anti-islamic.ti-islamic. this matters because germany - anti-islamic. this matters because germany is - anti-islamic. this matters because germany is one l anti-islamic. this matters| because germany is one of anti-islamic. this matters - because germany is one of the key powerhouses and economies in europe. alongside france. which is also in the group of political turmoil and instability.— political turmoil and instabili . ., . instability. correct. the german _ instability. correct. the german economy - instability. correct. the german economy has l instability. correct. the - german economy has been stagnating, they will be worried about this, the economy has not been growing and there is a survey from the german business association which says most of the current members think the current situation is worse than 12 months ago and they remain pessimistic about they remain pessimistic about the coming year, saying the economy will not get off the ground in 2025. so one of the issues in this elect

netanyahu is clearing, this could lead to the fall of iran and the islamic republic.looking for exit strategies to essentially as i said earlier, to take the plunge and go to very different direction from here onwards.— very different direction from here onwards. were it to reach out, for example, _ here onwards. were it to reach out, for example, to _ here onwards. were it to reach out, for example, to the - here onwards. were it to reach | out, for example, to the syrian transitional government, what reaction would you anticipate from damascus?— reaction would you anticipate from damascus? look, ithink it's a really— from damascus? look, ithink it's a really early _ from damascus? look, ithink it's a really early days. - from damascus? look, ithink it's a really early days. one i it�*s a really early days. one thing i have to point out is when you look at the history of the islamic republic for the last 45 years, where they have been able to come in and become an actor, a player if you will, is where there are areas, countries that are in despair, when there is civi

islamic state still exists. wejust islamic state. islamic state still exists.s on their positions in the desert south of the euphrates river yesterday. we have to consider that mission and we have to play a role in shaping the political development along with our partners and allies. syria cannot be rebuilt without hundreds of billions of dollars of assistance and aid from humanitarians for reconstruction. that is not going to flow, if there is chaos, if the rise terrorist elements running around the country. elements running around the count . ., ., ., , , country. you have also been yes ambassador— country. you have also been yes ambassador to _ country. you have also been yes ambassador to iraq _ country. you have also been yes ambassador to iraq and - country. you have also been yes ambassador to iraq and turkey, | ambassador to iraq and turkey, looking a bit more at the region, what does this mean for the balance of power? i5 region, what does this mean for the balance of power? is a dramatic _ the balance of power? is a dramatic. on _ the balance of power

he definitely got his hands dirty —— islam building. there hands dirty -- islam building.res of _ hands dirty -- islam building. there were pictures of him _ hands dirty -- islam building. there were pictures of him painting, - hands dirty —— islam building. there were pictures of him painting, what was he like —— factory building? -- factory building? he was an accomplished _ -- factory building? he was an accomplished carpenter. -- i -- factory building? he was an - accomplished carpenter. -- slums. accomplished carpenter. —— slums. he�*s built furniture. he loved to work with his hands. he recruited not only about three dozen volunteers to help him do that, but it included his wife, who he turned in a bit of a carpenter herself. so many pictures from habitat for humanity to show him with his beloved rosalind next to him. a lot of his work wasn�*tjust beloved rosalind next to him. a lot of his work wasn�*t just the beloved rosalind next to him. a lot of his work wasn�*tjust the united states. he travelled the world. he was helping with the charity, including south africa

the correct terminology is islamic divorce services.duced 15 years ago, never listed 85, so there's no evidence of 85, and to say that it's growing, it would have to be more than 85. now, i have counted them, i've managed to find about 3k, maybe i've not found them all commit maybe there's a few more, but i doubt if there is more, but i doubt if there is more than a0. some will close down and new ones will pop up. this is probably a uniform number over the last 20 years. so, on top of that, a million muslims in the uk and france, i was reading on line at 6 million in germany, five and a half million muslims, surely they would have a great number of islamic divorce services, this headline, by the way it was just a quote from an ex—muslim who said who has regularly criticised islam and she said, "i think britain is the capital of western sharia courts." that shouldn't have been the headline, because that was opinion, and it's portrayed as fact. . v was opinion, and it's portrayed as fact. ., �*, as fact. that's the debate about the _ as f

to convert to its extremist idea of islam. but they saved a particular brand of cruelty and hate for the yazidi religion and people. when they attacked nadia's village, they murdered her mother, six of her brothers, and many more men in her family. they took younger women and children captive. the boys were indoctrinated into isis, while the women and girls were used as sex slaves, sold from man to man, raped and gang—raped repeatedly. after three months, nadia escaped. but so many others didn't. more than 200,000 people are still displaced, and there are 3,000 women and children still missing. do you think enough is being done to find them? i think nothing was done to find them. nothing was done until isis made the decision to murder all the men, including six of my brothers, my nephew, and dozens of my cousins, and the elderly women, including my mother. and then, they enslaved more than 6,500 women and children into sexual slavery. most of us who survived were able to just run away and go ask for help. but there was never,

as i mentioned, that mission is against islamic state.ffice after the 24th of january, it is hard to say because we don't know, things are moving so quickly, it is pretty hard to not even where we will be by the time he gets into office. but remember, he came to office on a platform of ending foreign wars and disengaging the us from its role in them. this is a very small role, what you will hear from the biden administration, it is a small price to pay to get stability and containment of islamic state, which is largely pretty much degraded in the east of syria. that having the small number of forces is a small price to pay, and they can exert influence on the wider political process in syria. i think it remains to be seen whether or not mr trump tries to pull out. let's get more on the reports that bashar al—assad and his family are in moscow. steve rosenberg is with us. a few minutes ago, russian news agencies are quoting a source in the kremlin reporting that bashar al—assad and his family had arrived in moscow and had been granted asyl

saudi arabia being very much a monolithic one faith country, islam, and this man taleb al—abdulmohsenbirthplace. so in islam you're not supposed to leave your religion, and he has turned into somebody that the federal interior minister has referred to as an islamophobe. and certainly some of the text and tweets he posted and have been reported on german media are exactly that, islamophobic. there are two sides of this but it does seem the saudi authorities were concerned about this man's extreme views. do we know what the german authorities did with the warning the saudis said that they gave and do we know to what extent german security services were monitoring him? zero, according to the saudis, there was no response. some reports in the german media that the saudis had made attempts to bring him back, to extradite him, which germany resisted. germany is very much, if you remember back in 2015, germany has been a refuge for very large numbers, roughly 1.5 million refugees from the middle east, notjust from syria but other countries as well. something which has been a polarising facto

night. detention when he appeared his social media posts appear to suggest he had been critical of islamto our correspondent anna foster, who is in bernburg, the home town of the suspect. what more do we know? this is where he _ what more do we know? this is where he lived _ what more do we know? this is where he lived for _ what more do we know? this is where he lived for almost - what more do we know? this is where he lived for almost 20 i where he lived for almost 20 years after coming from saudi arabia to germany back in 2006. this is a fairly small, quiet town. it has its own christmas market of its own, actually, which is very quiet this afternoon in the centre of the square. this is a place where he worked as a psychiatrist and the town for which he travelled to magdeburg on friday evening. now, what we are moaning more about all the time is about him as an individual, notjust about his work and home life in this town here. but also about his views, and often in his own words. back in 29, taleb al—abdulmohsen was interviewed by the bbc and he talked about what he did here in germa

his social media posts appear to suggest he had been critical of islam.respondent anna foster reports. this is andre, nine years old, looking forward to christmas, enjoying a night out at the festive market when he was killed. a fundraising account for his devastated family has on social media. his mum said, "let my little teddy bear fly around the world once again." taleb al—abdulmohsen has been charged with andre's murder and that of four other people at the christmas market. german investigators are building up a picture of the saudi doctor, including in his own words. my name is taleb. i'm from saudi arabia. i'm an activist. in 2019, he was interviewed by the bbc. he talked about how he used his free time to help people. i created a website to help people seeking asylum, especially from saudi arabia and the gulf region. now, he's been charged with killing five people at magdeburg's christmas market, speeding a powerful car through the packed alleys between the stalls, causing terror and panic. the attack unfolded in the city's central square at around

faisal islam joins us to discuss _ faisal islam joins us to discuss this.is. how are you seeing this? how is this going down? — seeing this? how is this going down? ., ., , seeing this? how is this going down? ., .,, , , down? someone has suggested this is the uk _ down? someone has suggested this is the uk saying _ down? someone has suggested this is the uk saying we - down? someone has suggested this is the uk saying we want i this is the uk saying we want all of the good bits and none of the bad bits. how has it been received?— of the bad bits. how has it been received? the first thing is lots of warm _ been received? the first thing is lots of warm words - been received? the first thing is lots of warm words about . been received? the first thing is lots of warm words about a | is lots of warm words about a close at relationship. the baseline for this is the fact that the newish labour government in the uk news that the deal inherited from the conservative government was too hard a brexit, to clean a break, and the uk economy, which has suffered from sl

abu mohammed al—jawlani, head of the islamic group hayat tahrir al—sham.s there for bbc arabic. chanting translation: a historic moment, in every sense of the word — abu mohammed al—jawlani here for the first time, in the great umayyad mosque. the rebel commander has been playing down past links to al-qaeda, saying he wants to build a syria for all its people. from the syrian prime minister, also a message of calm. translation: we are all. concerned about this country and its institutions and facilities. i am here in my home, and i do not intend to leave it, except in a peaceful manner, in order to ensure the continuation of the work of public institutions. the president fled, as the rebels closed in. reports in russia now say he's turned up in moscow. a statue of his father pulled down shortly before he flew out of the country. his damascus residence now a tourist attraction, stripped bare of anything valuable, of anything at all. we saw people carrying out furniture, with no one trying to stop them. the rebels may have brought freedom but not security. l

by two large date, the islamic republic iran and the russian federation. russia had what the russian and empire one of which was warm water for. they had an airbase as well. basically this was russia's foothold into the middle east and it's been a partner of the assad regime and the family for really half aan century both unr the soviet union as those under the russian federation. both iran and russia surge to bella assad that iran started indirectly in 2012 come directly in 2013 and russia more directly in 2015. there's that whole host of other groups like the sds, syrian defense under democratic forces for largely but an exclusively kurdish backed by the united states. when the u.s. is looking for a a partner in syria to pick it was a prioritized he would pick to fight assad. it was who the pic to fight this other armed terrorist group that we all know called isis. the fdf and the kurds have led that fight against isis in the region but they're not a the ony group. there was like the free syrian army. that was disaffected assad regime officers that it be

, not only of islamist but of islam such as tommy robinson in great britain.ticularly retweet all the right—wing extremism theories, so it does not seem that his whole world view was right—wing extremism. he also tweeted a lot about sexual abuse, he tweeted a lot about women's rights — some facts that are really to be criticised for anybody advocating for women's rights, but he mixed with theories, with conspiracy, but most outstanding where his own perception of the german state, of the treatment of refugees, of the german police, and he even accused his own lawyers to have betrayed him. the us military says it has shot down one of its own planes over the red sea, during operations against the houthis in yemen. it said the navyjet was hit by fire from a guided missile cruiser after taking off from an aircraft carrier. both pilots ejected and were rescued. an earlier statement said us forces carried out air strikes against houthi targets in the yemeni capital, sanaa, and shot down drones and an anti—ship missile. earlier on saturday, israel reported intercepti

his social media posts appear to suggest he had been critical of islam.ondent anna foster, has been in bernburg today, the home town of the suspect. this is where he lived for almost 20 years after coming from saudi arabia to germany backin from saudi arabia to germany back in 2006. this is a fairly small, quiet town. it has its own christmas market of its own actually, which is very, very quiet this afternoon, just in the centre of the square. this is a place where he worked as a psychiatrist and the town from which he travelled to magdeburg on friday evening. what we are learning more about all the time is him as an individual, notjust his work and home life in this town here, but also about his views, and often in his own words. back in 2019, taleb al—abdulmohsen was interviewed by the bbc and he talked about what he did here in germany, not specifically about his work, but about what he did in his free time. my name's taleb. i'm from saudi arabia, i'm an activist. i created a website to help people seeking asylum, especially from saudi arabia and the

when islamic state were pushing to go for them, un officials feared that the islamic state people actuallyide against the community, some massive chaos, bloodshed, if you went, if he stays, possibly also chaos and bloodshed. stays, possibly also chaos and bloodshed-— stays, possibly also chaos and bloodshed. either way, do you think there — bloodshed. either way, do you think there is _ bloodshed. either way, do you think there is a _ bloodshed. either way, do you think there is a significant - think there is a significant chance of a major refugee crisis emerging from what we see? ,,. , see? sadly, whenever fighting itself, civilians _ see? sadly, whenever fighting itself, civilians who _ see? sadly, whenever fighting itself, civilians who have - see? sadly, whenever fighting itself, civilians who have had l itself, civilians who have had a long experience of these situations want to get out of the way, and that means crossing a border.- the way, and that means crossing a border. thank you for taking — crossing a border. thank you for taking us _ crossing a border. thank you for taking us

he is very critical of islam. one of the things that he is reported to have told us the news media many years ago about how he tried. he wanted to help people to leave saturday or a view to make it easier for them to claim asylum in this country. lots of things being reported. facts in so far as we know them well at 4 o'clock, chapman time, that's 15 gmc, we expect police and prosecutors in the city to give a news conference at which hopefully we will get more facts about why this investigation is going on. what more they know about the man responsible for this, this incident, this attack? so dominic, the german chancellor, still speaking just meters behind you, and i'm sure there are details that you'll bring us a little later when you can catch up with what he's saying. but how do you think this is going to percolate through german politics because you have an election. okay. a laugh sholtes and told yeah, we see it. life is just done. done speaking. how do you think this is gonna percolate through german politi

the other thing is jolani and his movement has fought the islamic state. and while he is officially still on the terrorist list, we haven't seen any what we would consider terrorist activities out of that movement for a good deal of time for 4 or 5, six, seven, eight years. and in fact, we indirectly, uh, we didn't work with him, but we were, uh supporting the people. some 3 million refugees that were under his control in the northwest of the country. and we were very appreciative of the efforts he was doing to stop assad russia and iran's advance. >> do you expect to see more u.s. bombings and airstrikes like the ones we saw today oh absolutely. >> uh it's been hard to fully eliminate the islamic state in syria, but i think that that was partially because of the inept nature of the syrian army. i think that with the syrian democratic forces, uh, kurdish allies who have moved, uh, in some cases south of the euphrates, and with these opposition forces unleashed on the islamic state, uh, along with our bombing campaign and the usual kind of raids, our specia

. >> the islamic center of san francisco is one of the oldest mosques in the state of california. members say they witnessed a hateful act on december 24th. >> he's thumbing through our holy book, the quran. >> the suspect, someone with a history of harassing mosque members. >> we've had run ins with him about, i would say, about 3 or 4 times. >> zohaib siddiqui is with the islamic center of san francisco. >> he showed up with religious books, qurans, bibles, and they started standing in the front, tearing pages from the koran, waving from a security camera. looked like a hammer, though i think later it looked like to be a toy hammer and kind of confronting any people coming into the mosque. >> this isn't the first time a mosque in san francisco was targeted this year. in april, video captured a different man using a skateboard to smash six windows at a mosque on sutter street. zahra, below, is executive director of care, council on american-islamic relations, san francisco. >> people are fearful that this is now becoming normal. we've heard more reports of mosques targeting in th

, saying there is "no such thing as a good islam".ortive of the far right afd here in germany. so, a complex picture, and very much not the profile of the attackers in previous such atrocities. i think that is what is making this tragic incident so confusing for people to understand and get their heads around because the motivation is very unclear. interestingly, authorities came out very quickly to say that it was a saudi man that was a suspect. that's right, and until relatively recently you would never in the media and from police statements, you would never talk about the nationality of a suspect. it was seen as legally not acceptable and morally reprehensible. that all changed a couple of years ago when officials very quickly started releasing information about nationalities and backgrounds of suspects in order to undermine conspiracy theories about what was behind such attacks. in this particular case he does seem to be a saudi national who has lived in germany for a long time. the authorities are also very aware that there have

and their basic mission has been to suppress the islamic state, to prevent the islamic state from creatingso to keep a lot of islamic state terrorists essentially in prison, and it's the currents who are -- the kurds who are keeping them there. if we would abandon the kurds, all those prouder prisoners would go to other places in the -- prisoners would go to other places, maybe in the middle east, see if they can come up from the border into the u.s. so i would hope those who have worked with us we will want to protect as well, and i hope trump will see the utility in that. paul: yeah. just to put a number on that, the israel lammic state numbers, something like 40,000 are now detained the. cliff may, thanks so much for coming in. appreciate it. >>> still ahead, president biden claims his administration's policies set the stage for assad's fall in syria, so is his victory lap deserved? our panel looks at that next. ♪ >> -- balance of power in the middle east to. with this combination of support for our partners, sanctions and diplomacy and targeted military force when necessary, we now see

state, and it housed guy called heidi back, the strategic mastermind of islamic state and gelati, andt allowed them to discuss how could the exploit not only the security vacuum in iraq but the impending security vacuum in northern syria. hts was born out ofjoe on the zero, and 2016, july and he said he would distance himself from that and in 2018, the us and the uk and nato all designated hts as a terrorist group and then we hit today and the uk are now discussing, he spoke about it earlier in the programme. there is a decision _ earlier in the programme. there is a decision submit _ earlier in the programme. there is a decision submit because - is a decision submit because david lammy send earlier today that they're going to send david l

the inmates joined the so-called islamic state from all over the world. they're locked up, apparently indefinitely, 20 or more to a cell. we're from cbs news. this man told us he was a doctor from windsor, canada, who traveled to the islamic state and was captured six years ago. >> we all make mistakes, right? >> reporter: do you regret it? >> i regret the mistake that i made? of course. >> reporter: to the canadian government, do you have a message? >> why haven't they come? why haven't they asked about me? that's all i can, want to ask them. >> reporter: the inmates don't know the syrian regime in damascus was toppled, because it could be dangerous. [speaking in a global language] they would be disobeyedant, he told me. and this prison is important for them. the prison is guarded by american-backed syrian forces who control about a quarter of the country. five years ago, they defeated isis in syria with u.s. help. we witnessed them capture raqqah, the headquarters of the islamic state. >> reporter: and you thought it was clear, and now you think there's

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