secretary of state has opened the doors for talks with ae islamic front, organization committed to an islamic space. >> it is possible that it could take place. among all offfort the supporter nations of the opposition torian want to broaden the base. >> traditionally, the u.s. has supported the mostly secular free syrian army, but last month, the usa suspended aid to the groups in northern syria after fears of the equipment falling into wrong hands after aly have lost some ground to qaeda related groups and one group that is black listed as a terrorist organization. said this lacks legitimacy, and though young, the islamic front may have the credibility the fsa now lacks. the islamic front was formed just last month from several opposition groups, reportedly making up the largest rebel coalition to date. radicalnsidered less than al qaeda, but with the introduction of sharia law, the u.n. conference on syria coming up in january, washington must aside which opposition group it brings to the negotiating table. it is a choice the u.s. has to make quickly. >> crowds have been gathering

state department is considering dealing with the islamic front to meet certain particularly people that have much well let's say western values no but i think what we've seen is the ruse that the free syrian army is the epicenter of political opposition to the saddam regime has been exposed so the united states and france and britain are in a trouble spot and i think they are looking for practical solutions here i mean the . they basically were withdrew their support from the free syrian army not completely but to a degree when the. basically ransacked the free syrian army headquarters. close to the border of turkey and that was kind of a statement that really the free syrian army and the syrian national coalition are not powerful they're not taken seriously by anyone outside the west yet if i can stay with you but nonetheless a few months ago the obama administration was going to launch a war against syria in the name of the people you just mentioned but apparently they are not really players or never have been players on the ground no i think they've been the pawns of foreign influenc

a sovereign country jason jump in in new york go ahead you've been patient if the islamic front takes over or the islamic state of iraq and the luvox. takes over what they want is a quranic based state you know the imposition of full sharia law the likelihood that they were certainly with the islamic state of iraq and the persecution of minorities they're killing christians they're killing druze they're killing alawite it's they're killing. you know disagreeable sunni's who who are they now are killing is the question so i think the idea that they would form a stable government let alone a. secular one is insane but i think there are parallels peter with what we saw in afghanistan the eighty's when the cia. came together with the pakistani intelligence and. and saudi arabia to prop up the rebels and overthrow the government there what happened the rebels took power they couldn't cover and that led to the rise of the taliban and all of the consequences of that so i think where there are definite historical era well you certainly going to enjoy being here we're out of history we had sun

in iraq much more recently washington says islamic front that it is willing to negotiate with does not include designated terrorist groups like job at a loose wire and the so-called islamic state of iraq can live on but on the ground in syria there are so many different groups that the labels could be relevant. residents of the town of adria near damascus can't name the exact rebel group that executed over eighty civilians there including children earlier this week. the u.s. has supported the syrian opposition on the premise that washington would be able to discern different shades of extremists they would figure out which ones are less extreme but even the report that there was no battle over the warehouses between the islamic front and the western backed supreme military council is one indicator of how blurred those lines are and how flawed is the assumption that one can distinguish with certainty between those groups in washington are key. and while the forces may be united in their goal to topple the government a little unity itself within the movement of us particularly as extremi

now this islamic front that has splintered off from the main force fighting against the assad government has taken over a border outpost near the turkish border, a warehouse as well as a headquarters building. josh earnest is the principle press deputy secretary here at the white house. >> you know, we had seen reports that islamic front forces have seized the headquarters in question, and warehouses belonging to the supreme military council. we're concerned about those reports. we're gathering facts to inventory th provided to the sm. the united states has suspended all further deliveries of non-lethal assistance into northern syria. >> now tony at that briefing had an opportunity to ask josh earnest what about lethal aid? they never confirmed the program run by the c.i.a. to send small munitions to the syrian rebels. it was congressional sources that initially confirmed that they wouldn't talk about that, but they do stress the humanitarian aid is still going forward. >> what does this mean for syr syria's rebels, valerie, research analyst at the institute of the study of war. let me p

of lethal assistance that report explains why islamic front forces seized headquarters and warehouses belonging to the opposition's supreme military council the incident happened friday evening at the. crossing on syria's normal north western border with turkey what's unclear is why the islamic front sees the and if any stock has gone missing also on knowledge of whether the islamic front was working with her had any quatrain affiliation with the islamic state of iraq and syria known as isis all. those two groups as terrorist organizations by the united states right about now many u.s. senators may be calling u.s. president barack obama to say. just several u.s. representatives have publicly warn the obama administration against supporting the syrian opposition predicting that american weapons will likely fall into the hands of terror groups also arguing that providing aid to the rebels acquits to finding al qaeda now some critics say that washington so-called suspension of non-lethal aid to northern syria doesn't necessarily mean that u.s. weapons won't continue to flow to other part

seize the premises and if any stock has gone missing also on knowledge of whether the islamic front was working with her had any quatrain or affiliation with the islamic state of iraq in syria known as isis all. those two groups as terrorist organizations by the united states. u.s. senators maybe are calling u.s. president barack obama to say. just several u.s. representatives have publicly war in the obama administration against supporting the syrian opposition predicting that american weapons will likely fall into the hands of terror groups also arguing that providing aid to the rebels equates to finding al qaeda now some critics say that washington so-called suspension of non-lethal aid to northern syria doesn't necessarily mean that u.s. weapons won't continue to flow to other parts of the country nonetheless this development is being seen as a big blow to the military council and the syrian army opposition that the obama administration has been championing champion for the biggest problem of for the obama administration what it now faces is figuring out how to walk great and wo

of course because they're not designated and you haven't yet the islamic front includes groups that are demanding a hard line shari'a state to be a strategic mistake if the us administration or europe or their allies would be engaging in a partnership and a partnership meaning they would be collaborating with organizations that are the hardest and have not committed to become moderates or recognize the fact that if they come to power or part of power they will recognize human rights that did not happen while washington is revaluate ing whom to support in the fight against assad all qaeda linked groups have made significant gains in the north of syria where they've pushed out other rebel forces in the name of allah the gracious and merciful. when you're firing rockets it's allah who fires them with your hands these strikes are only a drop in the ocean the lines of these lawmakers state are fulfilling their all from iraq to lebanon on these islamist forces are better trained and better armed some of them got their training fighting against the u.s. in afghanistan in the one nine

and the islamic front want to talk about. well i think first of all it's important to say the islamic front is not the same as the job for people who are accused of these massacres that you just reported nor are they linked to al-qaeda they are islamists obviously they are military but they represent the less extreme less radical side of the people on the ground who are fighting against the assad government i think the americans for a long time have been hesitant about this whole idea of new peace talks in geneva. in the few months ago they became committed to them and so obviously they feel that they want to be sure that when the take talks take place next month that if they break which is unfortunately quite likely the blame for that is not put on the opposition on the american supported opposition but the dude would be put on the government and so i think the americans are trying to say to the to the islamic front this new group that's been formed you know to go to geneva or if you don't go to geneva at least don't announc

laws and basically they're already terrorizing minorities so they have formed what they call an islamic frontand some of our partners in the west are even flirting with it even though we know from our confidential contacts with them that they know pretty well that the organizations which formed the islamic front are not much different from. were these lamb extended over iraq and miliband this alarms us incidence of anti-christian violence are happening time after time before the crisis there were two million christians living in syria now there's probably less than a million left so we don't have reliable statistics but i believe it lists a million christians are now refugees we all know about the most outrageous incidents and your channel covered some of them sure there was an incident and sent tackler com and when nuns were taken hostage by terrorists this incident happened near the town of malula the only place in the world were people still speak aramaic the language of jesus christ. and we know from our contacts with christian communities in syria and throughout the region that they're v

ners were front and the army of islam gave a signal for their fighters to attack they came in hundreds making use of bad weather and the element of surprise over government forces it was a year after fierce fighting with the syrian army the rebel factions achieve their objectives with the city soon falling into the hands of those who the residents of the city have dubbed the decapitated. how the friend of mine told me that he claimed he was insane in order to save his life and avoid the militants they believe just story and let him go he also said his children have been emotionally scarred from the savage act they have seen on the road between their house and the places where the choir is gathered people's heads were chopped off and the bodies thrown all over the road. slaughter everywhere the eldest was only twenty years old he was slaughtered they were all children i saw them with my own eyes they killed fourteen people with a machete i don't know if these people were alawite says i don't know why they were slaughtered they grabbed them by their heads and slaughtered them like sheep.

underof these groups are different rubrics of free syrian army or maybe islamic front or different --here really sort of part-time bandits, somewhat say old-time bandits. they change their colors depending on who is supplying them with money. they are prepared to claim strong religious belief or the opposite depending on where they can get supplies. but all of -- the fact that is happening is the criminalization of the military forces of the .yrian opposition foreign journalists are the victims. syrian journalist are the victims. an ordinary syrians are the victims. in some sense, these foreign journalists are having the same dangers inflicted on them that apply for anybody within the rebel areas. >> last month secretary of state john kerry held talks in saudi arabia with tina dola. the meeting -- with tina dola. king abdullah. in a news conference, john kerry said they were in agreement. >> there's no difference about our mutually agreed upon objective in syria. as i've said many times before, al-assad has lost all legitimacy and must go. nothing that we are doing with respect to thi

united states has suspended all for the deliveries of non lethal assistance in northern syria the islamic front insists is not tied to al qaeda the seat to establish an islamic state. for sin for its part says it's investigating the incident and suspending know me my heat until the situation to play at. more now that spring i national affairs editor army shorts and on and what sets this suspension of aid from the us in the uk mean for best rap song can be good news for the syrian president she was already making gains on the back field before this decision was announced last month his troops captured six here are a little all damascus. it made all the boxes in damascus provence and say southwest of us and within syria asset has been boosted only an influx of motivated she likes fight is from lebanon and from iraq on this us uk decision to suspend only too late to keep it in perspective. only applies to northern syria and it is time for a decision. but as it does appear at least in the short time to weaken the freaks are in almaty that the bigger picture that we have to bear in mind genie is tha

--er islamic front of coke under islamic front, they started dating -- startek consolidating.militaryry top, the had one of them. and then there is the political wing. i wonder if there is an end to that story and eventually they worked it out, and now the two leaders are working closely together -- i just wonder what happened there. >> yeah, i do not know if it was like a meeting in asia can's and had tea -- and they shook tea andd had everything was better. they sort of backed off from their positions. at the evening of the day, this is an opportunity to take alliance. hopefully it has more staying power in the sense that it would give a lot more coherence to the very important question -- who is the syrian opposition? because up until now we have not been able to answer that question in a coherent way. this allows us to do that. maybe it is a positive thing. but i hesitate to think that that alliance is, in its current form, anything more than an opportunistic group of brigades that have decided to work together and pool their efforts. >> more questions? hi, sally. i have a

and a mindset six mi jay is the miscreants quite seem to topple syrian president's and the islamic front has rejected the authority of the water and syrian opposition factions which are backed by the new dress and her pal it's been a case be played in ever more important role in the syrian conflict its leaders say they want to topple accents regime and build an islamic state members of the islamic products may take on tune in to meet the two talks next month which aimed to find a diplomatic solution to serious civil war. i the refuse and more . us haha. to be. it is. stg i know. the editor. he did while the eye. thus the eye nm. the it was cool until the border with lebanon following the killing of an israeli soldier by lebanese army still a thirty one year old alike yet so would just lead me to and watch all day busy trip along the volatile border like that knowing it's coming was killed in the auction the crap the northwest a trial with the reasons beyond the text him and tail. israel has the most of the united nations of their dismay at the attack. idf soldier was risen from one based

were sending to the syrian opposition and now washington is talking about negotiating with the islamic front in syria which includes groups that demand a hard line shari'a state washington says the u.s. can engage with them because they've not been designated this terrorist by the state department don't share similar goals as those who are designated as terrorists is a it's a lot of questions and overall it's a tricky situation where extremists in syria have benefited from u.s. actions and get washington is now up in arms trying to help the iraqi government essentially fight the same forces. well we surely were hoping to join georgia coleman is north from journalist who's been covering the middle east extensively will be live on the line now to talk a bit more about the ramifications of the news today we'll come back to him so we get the connection with him just a minute now it's the u.n. has announced a new british immigration bill is a recipe for stigma misunderstanding and ethnic profiling if passed the mall could trigger a crackdown on refugees and temporary migrants leaving the moment a

says it's willing to meet with members of the newly formed islamic front group which is also said to have been involved in the bloodshed we spoke to a geo political analyst who believes there is no peace looming as long as the u.s. continues to support the islamicists in recent weeks there's been an important shift in the relationship between the united states government on the one hand and what is darby presented as the new islamic front and we see that the united states is in fact goes to. establishing a dialogue with the leaders of these terrorist organizations i should say that in this particular case the people who have dialogue with the terrorists they have blood on their hands they have provided funding most of the military and logistical financial aid has been china holds to these al qaeda affiliated organizations and that's what we have to address there could be no peace as long as the west military alliance supports the terrorists. now still to come on r.t. as if fracking link earthquakes were bad enough. you can't say i didn't hear how much you make it. we meet in texas li

>> reporter: well, scott, on friday a new rebel group that calls itself the islamic front seized control of warehouses full of communications gear, food, medical supplies and some ammunition and what concerns the u.s. government is that this new group wants to set up an islamist state and not a democratic one inside of syria. some of its members also, as you say, have ties to militant groups. >> pelley: where does this leave the moderate rebels in syria that the u.s. supports? >> well, this is really damaging to them. i mean, the advisors to the moderate rebels tell us that they look at the islamic front-- which is heavily armed-- they say that's why it is gaining ground, now becoming one of the largest rebel groups inside of syria and they say that the u.s. decision to cut off these deliveries at the same time they're losing members and they're losing territory really hurts them. but the state department says it still is supporting the moderates behind the scenes, they're trying to help unify and restructure them. >> pelley: margaret, thank you very much. nearly a week after nelson mand

and now the islamic front is really in control. >> when we talk about john mccain, we talk about senatoret's take a listen on iran today to senator graham. >> there is no difference between rohani and the ayatollah. there are no moderates in the government when it comes to iran. >> that's the view we shouldn't be doing this negotiation at all. when you talk to obama security officials, it doesn't matter whether there are moderates or not in iran, it matters if we can force them to do what we want. >> it is what senator graham did, these people will create the biggest strategic blunder for u.s. foreign policy since the invasion of iraq. to quote one white house official, this is not another crank at the wheel at sanctions. this is a fragile moment where we are going to be either on a war track with iran or have an opportunity to move iran in a very wholistic way. >> do you think the democrats on the way are posturing or are they open to blowing up in deal the president reached? >> there are some democrats that are quite sincere in their belief that only more and more and more sanctions is

considered a terrorist organization there are even reports that our american colleagues with the islamic front representatives trying to get them to join the free syrian army. says e.u. partners want russia to be helping out in the situation of libya but he says that russia wants to have a say in the way the operations are going and that's the kind of equal footing that they want the russian you start to prove ukraine is not a major issue i guess that came up. before a lover of even came here there were a lot of warnings from the other foreign ministers that he's going to get an earful from the e.u. partners about russia meddling in the affairs of ukraine a lover of the did say pointed out to the behavior of the european partners in this . what he had to say the scriptures to that. too often in the last few days we've been hearing statements saying how good things would be a few new russia would stop meddling in the ukraine's affairs we see our western partners coming to clear than going straight to my done to hand out cookies and call on the ukrainian people to make what they call a free choi

on all sides and will washington this proposed meeting between washington maybe and the radical islamic front happen will that be a step forward to a negotiated settlement if they start talking or would it be a bad move. i think that would be difficult move you know if there was one radical organization you could deal with a lot might be a possibility but there isn't and we know this from past experience that is not possible to have sort of dialogue with any particular individual who casts the islamic front is a grouping of a number of these radical of these radical groups so i guess it would be a start wouldn't hear. it would be a start but i'm not sure how far to go i think what we need to do is we need to look at trying to get a proper resolve through the syria support group that's there trying to get them around the tables to talk to people not the external people but the internal people of syria whichever side they're on get them sit together and start to do something that actually get towards a bit of a settlement and then we can start to move and. try to develop that khaled lovely than

should his government will permit the glass as it swings to meet with members of the new formed islamic front group which is also said to have been involved in adoption and dry. it was time to adjust mysql and its committees does not pee slimming as long as the us continues to support the instruments. in recent weeks as the non nude color shifts in the relationship between the united states government on the one that anwar is all being presented as the new islamic front. we received all that's the united states is in fact go see a stay at establishing a dialogue with the details of these organizations to say that in this particular case the people who are in dialogue with the terrorists they have got all the hats they have provided funding most of the ministry and majestic own financial interests being shuttled to the east of time to fit into our own inventions and that's what we have to address they should be no peace as long as the west and the deadlines simple steps. to compound the problem this not be extending the reach of data center on the bottom or the making of the nation's gas are h